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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Shatterface wrote:A suitable signifier for a doctor would be a monocle.

They tell everyone that you are a person who spends a great deal of time looking through microscopes, and the pause in conversation while you pop yours on before giving someone a bollocking is enough to tell your underlings that shit is about to get real.
Oddly, I have lately come to understand the monocle. I did the LASIK thing to get rid of my glasses for myopia, and now deal with reading glasses for close up stuff. But now, there is LASIK that burns one eye for distance and the other for close up if the owner of the eyeballs in question can swap their master eye for distance and for close-up as required. And this is exactly what the monocle did.

If you really want to get into ocular signifiers, we shall have to discuss the pince-nez, which are also very convenient and useful in surprising ways.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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The Dwarves kind of have it well sorted out when it comes to sex and gender, at least in Terry Pratchett's universe. Cheery Littlebottom and Casanunda are the weirdos there...

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Sunder wrote:
Literally the first person on the lineup is Mr. Deity, which is also not his actual name.

I see we have another "Skepchick" type selling themselves in a lowbrow manner and getting pissed over their own choice to do so.
Note, also, that many women have the option of turning to sex when they aren't good enough at their actual job to get noticed for competence. This option is open to almost no men. Why? Because Patriarchy.

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CommanderTuvok wrote: I've herd of Mr Deity, Protheroe (who seems pretty cool - a Jerry Coyne type, I think)
Prothero was the cunt who blocked my comment, suggesting he keep his politics out of science commentary.

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ERV wrote:
Shatterface wrote:What's with long sleeved lab coats? Are they still a thing? Doctors don't use them because they can spread contamination.
I dont know anyone who wears a Lab Coat(TM).

We use ugly disposable things, for the very reason you describe. Not sexy for a photoshoot though (esp because we also wear them 'backwards', opening to the back), so, *shrug*.
This reminds me of something that I've been repressing.

One of my research assistants came to work sometime last fall in bicycle shorts and a sports-bra. I had no idea how to handle it (and was having some difficulty maintaining eye-contact). I was tempted to suggest that we all wear lab-coats from now on, to seem more professional, but she would have looked like she was only wearing the lab-coat and that would have been worse; plus, I could bring myself to even touch on the issue.

Thankfully, it was a one-time deal. Maybe my discomfort had an effect. Maybe it was simply an over-sight on her part or she'd just been at the gym and would have been late if she'd gone home to change. Or maybe it will happen again in the last few weeks of classes, as it warms up.

Thanks to you all for giving me something to worry about.

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How many 'smart, sexy & snarky' female science celebrity wannabes have there been now?

(The Skank tried, but possessed none of the requisite traits.)

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feathers wrote:
Really? wrote:How ironic you would use that clip. That little boy grew up to be this woman who is also a real estate agent.

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Another reason not to trust real estate agents.
'Recently renovated, finishing touches needed. Unique views. Motivated seller.'

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New Trigglypuff vid:

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ERV wrote:Getting a masters in science is pointless. You might as well have gone straight into the workforce after your BS, get money + relevant experience. People with masters degrees can get the same jobs and top out at the same salaries as people with BS. Theyre research specialists. Theyre research technicians. Staff scientists/Research scientists usually have PhDs. Maybe some with masters can get those jobs, but not with virtually no experience, like Yvette had. For fucks sake I am older than her. No one is going to pay an experienced PhD salary to an inexperienced Masters.
In my field, a Master's is worse than nothing, as we usually "give" a Master's when the student fails out (often at Comps) or is expelled for a non-serious reason. The only time that a Master's doesn't raise red flags is when they got it from a terminal-Master's program. But even those can be a problem. While a Master's from Villanova is a very big positive (as that's a great program in Psych), a Master's from Northern Illinois is a sign that the student was an idiot two years ago and now is an even bigger idiot (as that program sucks).

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Brive1987 wrote:The advert is unfortunate. But shit. It warmed the cockles to see such an unapologetic, un-PC missive.

http://i.imgur.com/GlqBBtA.jpg

I find it amusing that someone seeking her break thru moment by self identifying as "Scibabe" gets triggered by PR duly noting her selling point.

http://i.imgur.com/3QtvIRq.jpg

Now why the hell would they do that?

http://i.imgur.com/Hp168Kn.jpg
All but two people on that list Market THEMSELVES under a different monikeer. One is "SciBabe" which she freaking LABELED HERSELF as, and no one knows her real name, and wouldn't care if they saw her real name. Now who's fault is that.

And the 2nd person on that list is "Mr. Deity." And what do you know. He is listed as "Mr. Diety" first just like "SciBabe." I guess he had better shit up a storm. Or does she think "Mr. Deity" is his real name.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:How many 'smart, sexy & snarky' female science celebrity wannabes have there been now?

(The Skank tried, but possessed none of the requisite traits.)
This, to me, is one of the critical differences between Jaclyn Glenn and Sh0e (other than one being a plagiarist and the other having talent): the former has clearly tried to use sex to up the views on her channel; the latter has not (that I've seen). In fact, Sh0e has done something that you're not supposed to do when playing up sex: go on about her boyfriend. If Sh0e ever does play the sex card, I'll be very sad.

With that said, I'd prefer not to hear any more about Armored Skeptic.

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Worth getting a Masters for the shits and giggles of making someone call you Master.

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Shatterface wrote:Worth getting a Masters for the shits and giggles of making someone call you Master.
I'm surprised the crybullies haven't gone for that one too. BTW, there is a distinct advantage for some people in the US for a Masters - there are an extra 20,000 H-1B visas if you have a Masters from an accredited US institution.

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Shatterface wrote:Worth getting a Masters for the shits and giggles of making someone call you Master.
Especially from a technical college that has a program in fishing with a specialty in loading up hooks with tempting food.

(Think about it.)

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Lsuoma wrote:
Shatterface wrote:Worth getting a Masters for the shits and giggles of making someone call you Master.
I'm surprised the crybullies haven't gone for that one too. BTW, there is a distinct advantage for some people in the US for a Masters - there are an extra 20,000 H-1B visas if you have a Masters from an accredited US institution.
Yale dropped 'House Masters'.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:How many 'smart, sexy & snarky' female science celebrity wannabes have there been now?

(The Skank tried, but possessed none of the requisite traits.)
While I'm not a big fan of Science Lite content, I wouldn't have any problem with a woman doing this if as in this instance she didn't behave like a fucking hypocrite.

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feathers wrote:
ERV wrote:Uuuuuuuuuuum Yvette has zero publications in Pubmed. Not a 'scientist', not that anyone who is a scientist uses that vague title.
So, if anyone has a PhD but no publications, are they not a scientist (if an inactive one)?
Not unless they can still produce ova :P


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ERV wrote:
Shatterface wrote:What's with long sleeved lab coats? Are they still a thing? Doctors don't use them because they can spread contamination.
I dont know anyone who wears a Lab Coat(TM).

We use ugly disposable things, for the very reason you describe. Not sexy for a photoshoot though (esp because we also wear them 'backwards', opening to the back), so, *shrug*.
This reminds me of something that I've been repressing.

One of my research assistants came to work sometime last fall in bicycle shorts and a sports-bra. I had no idea how to handle it (and was having some difficulty maintaining eye-contact).
Dude, Ive seen that shit even in my line of work.

1-- Female PI straight up called out a female employee in someone elses lab for wearing flip-flops, booty shorts, and a tank top in a restricted area used for work with infectious samples, while mentoring an undergrad. Something along the lines of 'What the fuck is wrong with you I better never catch you pulling this shit ever again you fucking idiot'

2-- If you are uncomfortable doing that, have a female EHSO person come and 'remind' them of the rules of dress in a research facility. Since the incident above, our office sends out a 'reminder' email to everyone every spring when the weather starts warming up.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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ERV wrote: I normally look like the dude on the left;
http://cdn.thinglink.me/api/image/57914 ... aletowidth
Like a fat asian guy?

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ERV wrote:2-- If you are uncomfortable doing that, have a female EHSO person come and 'remind' them of the rules of dress in a research facility. Since the incident above, our office sends out a 'reminder' email to everyone every spring when the weather starts warming up.
That is what my wife advised, too. And I've got a certain (female) grad-student in mind if I need to have someone talk to my RA. I just didn't mention that in my first post because ... um, er ... it sounded a little too much like PZ Myers' well-known story. But thanks for seconding this approach.

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comhcinc wrote:
ERV wrote: I normally look like the dude on the left;
http://cdn.thinglink.me/api/image/57914 ... aletowidth
Like a fat asian guy?
I think I've found some footage of ERV handling one of Carrier's samples:

[youtube]Ch7N7KCn778[/youtube]

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HunnyBunny wrote:I have no idea what to say. My SJW daughter has messaged me for the first time since the Paris attacks. No introduction, apology, hi how you doing. Straight in with a purity test , ' what are your views on the French Burkha law?'.

I hate regressive left dogma with a passion. But I love my daughter more. More than enough to lie, or too much that I can't lie?
How about an answer which doesn't flat out contradict the SJW dogma, but rather encourages daughter to take a more nuanced approach and maybe see things in a slightly different context. Perhaps you could start with saying that you understand that French history and political culture is very different from what you're used to in the US and you would have to know more before being confident about making a judgement.


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HunnyBunny wrote:I have no idea what to say. My SJW daughter has messaged me for the first time since the Paris attacks. No introduction, apology, hi how you doing. Straight in with a purity test , ' what are your views on the French Burkha law?'.

I hate regressive left dogma with a passion. But I love my daughter more. More than enough to lie, or too much that I can't lie?
My take on this is this.

Fuck that stupid law. Governments should not have the power to tell people their face has to be uncovered just so their fucking cameras can record you.

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comhcinc wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote:I have no idea what to say. My SJW daughter has messaged me for the first time since the Paris attacks. No introduction, apology, hi how you doing. Straight in with a purity test , ' what are your views on the French Burkha law?'.

I hate regressive left dogma with a passion. But I love my daughter more. More than enough to lie, or too much that I can't lie?
My take on this is this.

Fuck that stupid law. Governments should not have the power to tell people their face has to be uncovered just so their fucking cameras can record you.
Fuck that shit. People should not be allowed to roam the streets with their face covered so they can commit any kind of crime in full anonymity.

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Shatterface wrote:[youtube]Ch7N7KCn778[/youtube]
Was the show any good?

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piginthecity wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote:I have no idea what to say. My SJW daughter has messaged me for the first time since the Paris attacks. No introduction, apology, hi how you doing. Straight in with a purity test , ' what are your views on the French Burkha law?'.

I hate regressive left dogma with a passion. But I love my daughter more. More than enough to lie, or too much that I can't lie?
How about an answer which doesn't flat out contradict the SJW dogma, but rather encourages daughter to take a more nuanced approach and maybe see things in a slightly different context. Perhaps you could start with saying that you understand that French history and political culture is very different from what you're used to in the US and you would have to know more before being confident about making a judgement.


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My take: offer some gentle ridicule of the question, maybe with a reply like, 'As long as it doesn't affect Jawa cosplayers, I don't mind.' Keep any discussions involving social justice lighthearted, and it might encourage your daughter to see the funny side of SJWism - and therefore not take it too seriously.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:http://i.imgur.com/GlqBBtA.jpg

The only people I recognize on that panel are: 1) some cunt who banned me from his blog; 2) some dude who went to prison.

Who needs these pathetic circle-jerks, when we have Slymestock?

I've met 8 of them, (but know 6 of them).
A major thing to keep in mind is to look at past Freethought OC events....they usually had 2 or more FTBers. Not this year.
If it happens again next year, I will assume it is not a fluke

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In the case of veils and headscarves and whatnot I just am not convinced that the broader principle of liberty is worth abrogating for a single narrow purpose. If private citizens and businesses could be encouraged to have a no face covering policy that would be far better.

I am open to hearing the arguments in favor of these laws though.

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feathers wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote:I have no idea what to say. My SJW daughter has messaged me for the first time since the Paris attacks. No introduction, apology, hi how you doing. Straight in with a purity test , ' what are your views on the French Burkha law?'.
Try returning 'Deport the lot, nuke Mecca'. Report results here.
Yea. Please cc me, by Twitter if I'm banned here. Also willing to offer moral or physical support; have nukes, will travel ....

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:How many 'smart, sexy & snarky' female science celebrity wannabes have there been now?

(The Skank tried, but possessed none of the requisite traits.)
This, to me, is one of the critical differences between Jaclyn Glenn and Sh0e (other than one being a plagiarist and the other having talent): the former has clearly tried to use sex to up the views on her channel; the latter has not (that I've seen). In fact, Sh0e has done something that you're not supposed to do when playing up sex: go on about her boyfriend. If Sh0e ever does play the sex card, I'll be very sad.

With that said, I'd prefer not to hear any more about Armored Skeptic.
Naw... Shoe uses sex. But she doesn't flipflop-- to acting like she's an innocent victim passively "being" sexualized, objectified, etc.

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Shatterface wrote:
feathers wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:I believe the real issue Steers is in persisting in your arguments way past the time you should have dropped them as unpersuasive. At least that is what I do at any rate.
But then again, I've just seen thirty pages on the dualist nature of bathrooms, propagating wholly without Steers' help.
There does seem to be two views on that subject, dividing the Pit down the middle, while Steers persists in arguing - for four years on one particular subject - without winning a single convert or adjusting his line of argument one iota.
Not sure which "one particular subject" you're referring to, but if it is the question of the definition for "woman" - the recent topic de jour - then you (and HunnyBunny) might note this comment from Matt Cavanaugh:
But Steers is right in one aspect: if Muscato is a woman, [then] the term 'woman' can mean anything -- thus, nothing.
Maybe you'd care to put your money where your mouth is and come up with a specific, detailed and quantifiable definition yourself? One that clearly and unambiguously excludes Dave and Bruce but which clearly includes, for example, those women who've recently given birth.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote:I have no idea what to say. My SJW daughter has messaged me for the first time since the Paris attacks. No introduction, apology, hi how you doing. Straight in with a purity test , ' what are your views on the French Burkha law?'.

I hate regressive left dogma with a passion. But I love my daughter more. More than enough to lie, or too much that I can't lie?
My take on this is this.

Fuck that stupid law. Governments should not have the power to tell people their face has to be uncovered just so their fucking cameras can record you.
Fuck that shit. People should not be allowed to roam the streets with their face covered so they can commit any kind of crime in full anonymity.
Is that the real purpose of such laws and their effects on Islamic garb are just unfortunate side effects? If so that's an angle I'm not hearing from anyone, though admittedly I'm not following the situation closely. The image being presented is that deterring gang crime or whatever is a side justification to make the laws seem less deliberately anti-Muslim.

I do understand the feminist argument that head coverings aren't really a choice for many women, but if it's a case of weighing the social liberty of one group again the legal liberty of the whole, that's a hard sell.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
CommanderTuvok wrote: I've herd of Mr Deity, Protheroe (who seems pretty cool - a Jerry Coyne type, I think)
Prothero was the cunt who blocked my comment, suggesting he keep his politics out of science commentary.
Prothero is excellent if talking about geology, paleontology, etc.

His FB feed is however filled with (usually political) memes easily debunked with a quick snopes search (as his FB feed is filled with skeptics, this happens a lot) and currently he posts any and all editorials bashing Bernie Sanders and his supporters...more than any other Hillary supporters I see.
He gets pushback in the comments for these posts, but rarely ever replies.

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HunnyBunny wrote:I have no idea what to say. My SJW daughter has messaged me for the first time since the Paris attacks. No introduction, apology, hi how you doing. Straight in with a purity test , ' what are your views on the French Burkha law?'.

I hate regressive left dogma with a passion. But I love my daughter more. More than enough to lie, or too much that I can't lie?
Don't bite at table scraps. If you play along with her SJW ideological game, she will use it to lead you around on that leash with on again-off again ideological tests for the rest of your time on earth or until she wises up.

Odds are somewhere in the back of her mind she is feeling bad for disowning your over silly shit. She wants to either get you to pander to her ideology and "come around" to her way of thinking, or reaffirm her stance.

When someone hands you a shit test, you don't play along. You don't take their test. I suggest not responding at all. Wait until she comes back with something more normal like "Hi, how are you doing?"

Time to reframe the issue from "You are a horrible bigoted mother who doesn't see things the SJW way" to "She is a horrible daughter who is off her rocker placing ideology before family and friends."

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In other words, she has made shitty decisions. She has to pay her price to learn. If you reward her for her behavior and come tail wagging between your legs every time she takes a shit on your door step, she will continue to do so.

People will treat you the way you teach them to treat you. Don't be her doormat.

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HoneyWagon wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
CommanderTuvok wrote: I've herd of Mr Deity, Protheroe (who seems pretty cool - a Jerry Coyne type, I think)
Prothero was the cunt who blocked my comment, suggesting he keep his politics out of science commentary.
Prothero is excellent if talking about geology, paleontology, etc.

His FB feed is however filled with (usually political) memes easily debunked with a quick snopes search (as his FB feed is filled with skeptics, this happens a lot) and currently he posts any and all editorials bashing Bernie Sanders and his supporters...more than any other Hillary supporters I see.
He gets pushback in the comments for these posts, but rarely ever replies.
Probably everyone but me knows already but as someone who's tried to pay as little attention as possible to the primary season what in the fuck are liberal progressives mad at Sanders over? I get why shallow SJW types would prefer the woman over the old white man (even if Hillary is also white and old), but I don't get how they could be so stupid as to go Trump-style character assassin on someone with an inarguably more progressive track record.

Fuck, are there any Hillary supporters who think Sanders might at least be a good veep choice?

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HunnyBunny wrote:I have no idea what to say. My SJW daughter has messaged me for the first time since the Paris attacks. No introduction, apology, hi how you doing. Straight in with a purity test , ' what are your views on the French Burkha law?'.

I hate regressive left dogma with a passion. But I love my daughter more. More than enough to lie, or too much that I can't lie?
That sounds pretty damn tough either way. One of my sisters married a SJW, which has made things really difficult. I have no idea what I would do were it my child that went culty. I think the fact that she contacted you is a positive, though. Good luck.

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deLurch wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:The advert is unfortunate. But shit. It warmed the cockles to see such an unapologetic, un-PC missive.


I find it amusing that someone seeking her break thru moment by self identifying as "Scibabe" gets triggered by PR duly noting her selling point.

http://i.imgur.com/3QtvIRq.jpg

Now why the hell would they do that?

http://i.imgur.com/Hp168Kn.jpg
All but two people on that list Market THEMSELVES under a different monikeer. One is "SciBabe" which she freaking LABELED HERSELF as, and no one knows her real name, and wouldn't care if they saw her real name. Now who's fault is that.

And the 2nd person on that list is "Mr. Deity." And what do you know. He is listed as "Mr. Diety" first just like "SciBabe." I guess he had better shit up a storm. Or does she think "Mr. Deity" is his real name.

Guinevere D'Entremont sounds like a character out of a Dan Brown novel.


"We just booked Guinevere D'Entremont"
"Which one?"
"The "Scibabe" one."
Oh that Guinevere D'Entremont!

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Sunder wrote: Is that the real purpose of such laws and their effects on Islamic garb are just unfortunate side effects? If so that's an angle I'm not hearing from anyone, though admittedly I'm not following the situation closely. The image being presented is that deterring gang crime or whatever is a side justification to make the laws seem less deliberately anti-Muslim.

I do understand the feminist argument that head coverings aren't really a choice for many women, but if it's a case of weighing the social liberty of one group again the legal liberty of the whole, that's a hard sell.
As I've said earlier, and found confirmed by a link Brive posted, the law bans any face covering in public places. The Burkha is one of many other face-covering garbs, including baklava, full-face motorbike helmets, scarf over mouth and nose...

Just five minutes ago I was watching a news reel about violent confrontations between police and protesters today. Most of the "casseurs" (those who come down in the street to break shop windows and steal stuff) have hoods over their head and scarves (mostly Palestinian Keffieh) around their nose and mouth.

The only arguably valid reasons to cover one's face in public spaces are:

-riding a motorbike
-countering harsh cold weather
-covering one's mouth and nose for infectious reasons
-maybe hiding a horrible deformity
-being a member of a SWAT team

Those exceptions normally are covered by the law.

Anything else is suspicious at best, and alarming at worse.

Do keep in mind that only the Niqab and Burkha are concerned. The Hijab is perfectly legal, so no, it's not muslims being targeted. That critic is the usual bullshit spewed by islamists and SJWs alike.

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Service Dog wrote:Naw... Shoe uses sex. But she doesn't flipflop-- to acting like she's an innocent victim passively "being" sexualized, objectified, etc.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cf0ha_wWQAAkv0s.jpg
I had not seen that [the above] before. I'm not sure how I feel about it. But thanks for showing me, anyway.*





* nb. my left pre-frontal area sometimes changes the word "asshole" to "anyway"

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Interesting bathroom arrangement at a feminist conference... [2:45]


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shetterly.blogspot.com/2016/05/identitarian-classism-oxford-student.html
Identitarian classism: Oxford student refuses to tip waitress because she is white
Oxford student behind Rhodes Must Fall campaign says he refused to tip waitress because she is white | Daily Mail Online

ETA: If you wonder whether Ntokozo Qwabe is a privileged Oxford student, the Obz Cafe doesn't look cheap. There's something especially obnoxious about rich kids not tipping the servants.

ETA 2: Tip the "Ntokozo Qwabe" Waitress by Ernst Shea-Kruger - GoFundMe Worth visiting just to read the privileged kid's version of the story.

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I mean I'm not a hardcore libertarian by any means. I'm pro-gun control for instance. But I'm not convinced that head coverings are anywhere near as big a social concern as guns. If I'm wrong and there are stats that contradict this I'm open to changing my position.

I'm broadly against the surveillance state, however. Nor do I think a person needs any more justification to wear a piece of clothing than to have a tattoo.

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Suet Cardigan wrote:New Trigglypuff vid:

[youtube]ZIpkdusnIkE[/youtube]

She was on the balcony earlier it seems.
Evidence elsewhere she is the daughter of a late (quite distinguished in his field) Classics academic who died in the early 2000s.
Which probably explains who later unknowingly paid for the education.


[youtube]wPDd5Wi1MB0[/youtube]

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Sunder wrote: Probably everyone but me knows already but as someone who's tried to pay as little attention as possible to the primary season what in the fuck are liberal progressives mad at Sanders over? I get why shallow SJW types would prefer the woman over the old white man (even if Hillary is also white and old), but I don't get how they could be so stupid as to go Trump-style character assassin on someone with an inarguably more progressive track record.

Fuck, are there any Hillary supporters who think Sanders might at least be a good veep choice?
Sanders on the ticket would hurt HRC in the general election.

Sanders is an independent running in the Dem primary. He's attacked HRC on her character more than on her positions, most notably saying she's "unfit" for the office. He's clearly going to lose the nomination, so a loyal party member would throttle back on the personal invective. He hasn't. Also, many of his supporters are spoiled little brats, who've convinced themselves they're on this transformative revolution quest, and would rather burn the whole place down than go with a typical moderate Dem nominee.

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Guest_df4fcc85 wrote: shetterly.blogspot.com/2016/05/identitarian-classism-oxford-student.html
Identitarian classism: Oxford student refuses to tip waitress because she is white
Oxford student behind Rhodes Must Fall campaign says he refused to tip waitress because she is white | Daily Mail Online

ETA: If you wonder whether Ntokozo Qwabe is a privileged Oxford student, the Obz Cafe doesn't look cheap. There's something especially obnoxious about rich kids not tipping the servants.

ETA 2: Tip the "Ntokozo Qwabe" Waitress by Ernst Shea-Kruger - GoFundMe Worth visiting just to read the privileged kid's version of the story.
If you don't tip, fuck you. If you write some smarmy bullshit in place of a tip, double fuck you. It's fuckery when some Christian shithead does it and it's fuckery when some snotty rich kid does it. I hope everyone hears about this and spits in your food for the rest of your life, shithead.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Sunder wrote: Probably everyone but me knows already but as someone who's tried to pay as little attention as possible to the primary season what in the fuck are liberal progressives mad at Sanders over? I get why shallow SJW types would prefer the woman over the old white man (even if Hillary is also white and old), but I don't get how they could be so stupid as to go Trump-style character assassin on someone with an inarguably more progressive track record.

Fuck, are there any Hillary supporters who think Sanders might at least be a good veep choice?
Sanders on the ticket would hurt HRC in the general election.

Sanders is an independent running in the Dem primary. He's attacked HRC on her character more than on her positions, most notably saying she's "unfit" for the office. He's clearly going to lose the nomination, so a loyal party member would throttle back on the personal invective. He hasn't. Also, many of his supporters are spoiled little brats, who've convinced themselves they're on this transformative revolution quest, and would rather burn the whole place down than go with a typical moderate Dem nominee.
I have my issue with Sanders supporters as well, especially a sanctimonious prick like Peez who thinks it's alright for him to vote his conscience in favor of a loser candidate, but heaps derision on anyone voicing their desire to vote Green if Hillary is the Dem nominee.

The common theme is fuck your principles, kiss this woman's ass.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Sunder wrote: Probably everyone but me knows already but as someone who's tried to pay as little attention as possible to the primary season what in the fuck are liberal progressives mad at Sanders over? I get why shallow SJW types would prefer the woman over the old white man (even if Hillary is also white and old), but I don't get how they could be so stupid as to go Trump-style character assassin on someone with an inarguably more progressive track record.

Fuck, are there any Hillary supporters who think Sanders might at least be a good veep choice?
Sanders on the ticket would hurt HRC in the general election.

Sanders is an independent running in the Dem primary. He's attacked HRC on her character more than on her positions, most notably saying she's "unfit" for the office. He's clearly going to lose the nomination, so a loyal party member would throttle back on the personal invective. He hasn't. Also, many of his supporters are spoiled little brats, who've convinced themselves they're on this transformative revolution quest, and would rather burn the whole place down than go with a typical moderate Dem nominee.
Alternatively, if you look at Sanders, you just might recognize that Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall Street, spouts social justice nonsense, uses being a woman as a shield, spouts pay gap and other bullshit, flips flops twice each day and never has a non poll tested position, and is just a same old same old Democratic corporatarian who will do little for the people she most claims to represent and nothing for anyone else. Plus, there's a likely indictment on the horizon (or there should be.)

She keeps her wall street speech transcripts far more securely than her emails.

If the Democratic Party can't promote a solid electable candidate whose good on the positions and demonstrates integrity, well fuck them.

Every election, if we don't vote for our evil, we will all go to hell with their evil. Not only is that nonsense but it encourages the production of shitty corrupt candidates. When your dog poops the bed you don't encourage it. Why encourage the Democratic Party when they've pooped the bed with Hillary?

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote:I have no idea what to say. My SJW daughter has messaged me for the first time since the Paris attacks. No introduction, apology, hi how you doing. Straight in with a purity test , ' what are your views on the French Burkha law?'.

I hate regressive left dogma with a passion. But I love my daughter more. More than enough to lie, or too much that I can't lie?
My take on this is this.

Fuck that stupid law. Governments should not have the power to tell people their face has to be uncovered just so their fucking cameras can record you.
Fuck that shit. People should not be allowed to roam the streets with their face covered so they can commit any kind of crime in full anonymity.

The people who are going to break the law is going to break the law anyway. This only affects lawful people many who are ugly and should be allowed to cover their shame.

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Guest_df4fcc85 wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Sunder wrote: Probably everyone but me knows already but as someone who's tried to pay as little attention as possible to the primary season what in the fuck are liberal progressives mad at Sanders over? I get why shallow SJW types would prefer the woman over the old white man (even if Hillary is also white and old), but I don't get how they could be so stupid as to go Trump-style character assassin on someone with an inarguably more progressive track record.

Fuck, are there any Hillary supporters who think Sanders might at least be a good veep choice?
Sanders on the ticket would hurt HRC in the general election.

Sanders is an independent running in the Dem primary. He's attacked HRC on her character more than on her positions, most notably saying she's "unfit" for the office. He's clearly going to lose the nomination, so a loyal party member would throttle back on the personal invective. He hasn't. Also, many of his supporters are spoiled little brats, who've convinced themselves they're on this transformative revolution quest, and would rather burn the whole place down than go with a typical moderate Dem nominee.
Alternatively, if you look at Sanders, you just might recognize that Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall Street, spouts social justice nonsense, uses being a woman as a shield, spouts pay gap and other bullshit...
From https://berniesanders.com/issues/fighti ... ns-rights/
AS PRESIDENT, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS WILL:FIGHT FOR PAY EQUITY FOR WOMEN.

It is a national disgrace that women only earn 79 cents for every dollar a man earns. The gender pay gap is even worse for women of color. Today, African American women earn just 64 cents for every dollar a white male earns, while the figure for Hispanic women is just 54 cents. As president, Sen. Sanders will sign the Paycheck Fairness Act into law to end wage discrimination based on gender.
If you're trying to choose between Clinton and Sanders on social justice nonsense, best of luck.

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From berniesanders.com/issues/fighti ... ns-rights/
AS PRESIDENT, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS WILL:FIGHT FOR PAY EQUITY FOR WOMEN.

It is a national disgrace that women only earn 79 cents for every dollar a man earns. The gender pay gap is even worse for women of color. Today, African American women earn just 64 cents for every dollar a white male earns, while the figure for Hispanic women is just 54 cents. As president, Sen. Sanders will sign the Paycheck Fairness Act into law to end wage discrimination based on gender.

If you're trying to choose between Clinton and Sanders on social justice nonsense, best of luck.
You're some what right, but given that his philosophy is based more on class solutions revolving around poverty than identitarian solutions, I am sanguine that bills he pushes would be implemented and lean more towards laws that lift everyone up regardless of gender or race.

The wiki brief on the paycheck fairness act shows that if what is enacted is how the wiki claims it, it can benefit all workers.

Clinton's philosophy is corporatism and narcissism, shielded by feminism. It will be the same old same old, just as Obama could not go after a single banker, neither will Clinton.

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
ERV wrote:
Shatterface wrote:What's with long sleeved lab coats? Are they still a thing? Doctors don't use them because they can spread contamination.
I dont know anyone who wears a Lab Coat(TM).

We use ugly disposable things, for the very reason you describe. Not sexy for a photoshoot though (esp because we also wear them 'backwards', opening to the back), so, *shrug*.
This reminds me of something that I've been repressing.

One of my research assistants came to work sometime last fall in bicycle shorts and a sports-bra. I had no idea how to handle it (and was having some difficulty maintaining eye-contact). I was tempted to suggest that we all wear lab-coats from now on, to seem more professional, but she would have looked like she was only wearing the lab-coat and that would have been worse; plus, I could bring myself to even touch on the issue.

Thankfully, it was a one-time deal. Maybe my discomfort had an effect. Maybe it was simply an over-sight on her part or she'd just been at the gym and would have been late if she'd gone home to change. Or maybe it will happen again in the last few weeks of classes, as it warms up.

Thanks to you all for giving me something to worry about.
Same thing happens on the construction site every spring, guys showing up in mesh Guinea T's and banana hammocks...

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Bernie has swallowed some of the long-disseminated SJW misinformation, but his policies are still broadly class conscious. On much the same way Trump's nationalism while hewing to distasteful elements appeals to many people because it bypasses his party's typical obsession with free trade at any cost and makes middle class Americans think they have a shot at jot getting screwed for once.

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Guest_df4fcc85 wrote:
From berniesanders.com/issues/fighti ... ns-rights/
AS PRESIDENT, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS WILL:FIGHT FOR PAY EQUITY FOR WOMEN.

It is a national disgrace that women only earn 79 cents for every dollar a man earns. The gender pay gap is even worse for women of color. Today, African American women earn just 64 cents for every dollar a white male earns, while the figure for Hispanic women is just 54 cents. As president, Sen. Sanders will sign the Paycheck Fairness Act into law to end wage discrimination based on gender.

If you're trying to choose between Clinton and Sanders on social justice nonsense, best of luck.
You're some what right, but given that his philosophy is based more on class solutions revolving around poverty than identitarian solutions, I am sanguine that bills he pushes would be implemented and lean more towards laws that lift everyone up regardless of gender or race.

The wiki brief on the paycheck fairness act shows that if what is enacted is how the wiki claims it, it can benefit all workers.

Clinton's philosophy is corporatism and narcissism, shielded by feminism. It will be the same old same old, just as Obama could not go after a single banker, neither will Clinton.
Basically this.

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Brive1987 wrote:
screwtape wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:While my world twirls, I also take back the nice things I said about my wife. That is until we recover enough to start talking civil again today. Meh. Women. Maybe we should redefine them into oblivion.
You too, eh?
Mate I am still on the shit list. Eventually I will find out how I offended. Once punishment is complete.
Unfortunately, In my experience this is something the majority of women tend to do.

This is after I ask what the matter is and the response is "nothing" in a tone of voice that clearly says the opposite.

Then I start reflecting that it was a mistake to treat women as adults, giving them the vote, etc. etc. etc. because of their childish emotion driven behavior.

For some reason this does not seem to go down well. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Guest_df4fcc85 wrote: shetterly.blogspot.com/2016/05/identitarian-classism-oxford-student.html
Identitarian classism: Oxford student refuses to tip waitress because she is white
Oxford student behind Rhodes Must Fall campaign says he refused to tip waitress because she is white | Daily Mail Online

ETA: If you wonder whether Ntokozo Qwabe is a privileged Oxford student, the Obz Cafe doesn't look cheap. There's something especially obnoxious about rich kids not tipping the servants.

ETA 2: Tip the "Ntokozo Qwabe" Waitress by Ernst Shea-Kruger - GoFundMe Worth visiting just to read the privileged kid's version of the story.

A black person is a shitty tipper? I. Am. Simply. Stunned.

I certainly hope his tipping-activism isn't just 'sticks'/ but also 'carrots'.

Like, Making It Rain when a stripper has a fat booty, in recognition of the blood diamond trade.

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deLurch wrote:
Shatterface wrote:[youtube]Ch7N7KCn778[/youtube]
Was the show any good?
I liked it at the time.

The first series was unremittingly grim (Terry Nation's novelization being even grimmer), the second settled down into something pastoral and almost utopian in a back-to-nature kind of way, and series three lost the plot a bit when they rebooted a nuclear power station and things started to get back to 'normal'.

It was far better than the recent remake where they never had to face up to food or fuel shortages because the supermarkets were still full.

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d4m10n wrote:
MacGruberKnows wrote:The arguments about toilets is finally fading out. But only because Steersman has become the new hot topic of the week.
Probably worth asking whether post-menopausal women should have a separate toilet, apart from the real women.
You can't call them women! I mean, with Muscato and Jenner corrupting the term, WE HAVE TO TAKE A STAND!

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deLurch wrote:
Shatterface wrote:[youtube]Ch7N7KCn778[/youtube]
Was the show any good?
It was wonderful to a teenager at the time. Take the world you knew, and reduce it to you and a few other survivors. As with all apocalyptic stories, as soon as the original premise had been worked it degenerated into all the normal stories of the day.

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Jenny McDermott apparently got swatted (or her neighbor did at least). It should me mentioned that she was one of dumbasses that was behind the letter that tried to get Tf00t fired and also made allegations he was a nazi sympathizer/ holocaust denier that was sent to the police in the Czech Republic where he works and that is illegal. She also made allegations that another youtuber was a rapist, when it was clear that was BS.
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