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paddybrown wrote: On the other hand, you've also got the phenomenon of adult colouring books, which are apparently a massive seller. The last time I was in Easons (big newsagent in Belfast city centre) I was astounded by the amount of shelf space given over to them, and also adult dot-to-dot books. I suppose adult play-doh can't be far away.
MIndfulness coloring books are popular, and are often recommended (prescribed?) in Dialectical Behavior Therapy. The simple concentration involved does seem to have a calming effect on agitated minds prone to runaway, negative thought patterns.

If I'm riding an agitated horse who's starting to boil over and maybe spook or bolt, I'll give it some task, say a little lateral or renvers -- just enough to focus it's mind on the here & now. Works like a charm.
Yeah it's all about the context with these stories. The adult coloring books I have seen have all been either complex shapes and designs:

http://www.everythingetsy.com/wp-conten ... ephant.jpg

Or they as simple and meant to be funny:
http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshow ... 1_free.jpg

A person taking a break for their life every now and then to do something like that is fine. It's when it's taken too far and you have adult pre schools and shit like that that it becomes an issue.

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Tribble wrote:
Gumby wrote:I feel really bad for Leslie Jones. She doesn't deserve this shit.

I don't. She's an asshole. She's spent years on Twitter bullying, brigading, calling for doxxing while trolling people who don't follow her particular brand of politics. And when they come back she cries 'racism and misogyny.' She's a bully who hides behind her vagina. And when bullies get their comeuppance, I've got no sympathy.

When Selena Gomez got her photos on the Internet, I had sympathy, as with Jennifer Lawrence, Paris Hilton, Christina Aguilera, Kirsten Dunst, Hayley Williams, Scarlett Johannson, etc., etc., etc. And the same goes for the men (except Orlando Bloom who is clearly an exhibitionist).

But the bullying assholes. Nope. No sympathy. Not even a tiny amount.

It's okay when it's done to someone I don't like!™

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Kirbmarc wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
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I think that the authorities and staff are mostly afraid of the lawsuits of their moms and dads.

I wonder what will happen when those maladjusted childish pretend-victim bullies will be forced to enter the world after university.
It's an interesting proposition - what would you recommend if you were the guidance counselor for one of these individuals?

I'm thinking they could get a job as a stand-up comedian, HR personnel (for a large company), Pop-cultural critic / Pundit, or Academic. Also they could work in the arts (cf Service Dog) or in left wing politics (eg the DNC or Labour party) as a hanger-on, if not a politician.

Other than that they can either marry or hook-up with a rich partner or go back to living on their trust-fund. Though these options may not be available for everyone.

I'm sure the more historically minded on the pit - will see the SJ movement as not wholely without precedent - so it might be interesting to see how society accommodated such people in the past.
Most of them aren't funny enough to be a stand-up comedian, and pop culture critics and pundits are a dime a dozen. They also don't have the skills to be HR personnel. Academia is pretty much the only field where they could work, but that's not for everyone, either.

I think that for most of them it's retail jobs and McDonald's, or even perpetual unemployment and living on benefits.

I predict a huge growth of unemployment figures among college graduates, especially in the humanities, and even lower birth rates among the next generation.
Are these porno connect the dots and coloring books? If not, then what makes them adult?

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Have been musing: just think of all the societal issues that would be solved if everyone identified as a woman. No more testing or exclusion for sports, no more gender imbalance in boardrooms, and all bathrooms & changing rooms would be unisex.

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VickyCaramel wrote:
Gumby wrote:
comhcinc wrote:.

Anyway I think it's a shitty thing to do. Jones is kinda of a cunt but she doesn't deserve this at all. She was in a shitty movie that she defended, she has some dumb opinions and that's it.
This. All this abuse because of a stupid movie. I hope whoever did this gets caught and serves time.
Just to set the record straight, this wasn't because of the shitty movie. Jones has a history of making racist comments on twitter, not massively black supremacist kill whitey stuff, but definitely the kind of things whites couldn't get away with saying about blacks. She was confrontational and abusive and it was reported that she had several "twitter meltdowns". She certainly didn't go out of her way to avoid the trolls.
According to hacked and leaked emails, it seems that Twitter responded to this by banning over 200 Twitter accounts, including Milo's.

So as far as I can see, the interwebs feel that Twitter didn't behave in an even handed way and showed special and preferential treatment to Jones while punishing Milo and others which is true to form.

The hackers addressed their taunting to @Jack on the hacked page, not to Jones. However, she is not just collateral damage, she is believed to have behaved badly, so it is her hypocrisy which is being punished too.
I don't know what record you are referring to but no one had ever heard of Jones before the GB movie. I don't care if you think that she was saying racist things. She is allowed to do that. I don't care if she had a bunch of twitter meltdowns. Nobody knew who she was before GB. That movie and the retardness surrounding it is the only reason she became a person of interest.

Twitter btw can give special treatment to whoever they want. That does not give people license to dox this Jones. She has the right to say whatever the fuck she wants without the fear of people attacking her(I mean actually attacking like this dox, not nasty comments).

It's really kinda fucked up that there are some people here that are willing to excuse a dox (her driver license and passport was released along with the sexy fun time pictures) because they don't like the person.

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Skep tickle wrote:Have been musing: just think of all the societal issues that would be solved if everyone identified as a woman. No more testing or exclusion for sports, no more gender imbalance in boardrooms, and all bathrooms & changing rooms would be unisex.
You may think you have earned your stripes solving the greatest problem of our age - but as a wiser man than me once said:
Abraham Lincoln wrote:
How many legs does a dog have if you call his tail a leg?

Four. Saying that a tail is a leg doesn't make it a leg.

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comhcinc wrote:
I don't know what record you are referring to but no one had ever heard of Jones before the GB movie. I don't care if you think that she was saying racist things. She is allowed to do that. I don't care if she had a bunch of twitter meltdowns. Nobody knew who she was before GB. That movie and the retardness surrounding it is the only reason she became a person of interest.

Twitter btw can give special treatment to whoever they want. That does not give people license to dox this Jones. She has the right to say whatever the fuck she wants without the fear of people attacking her(I mean actually attacking like this dox, not nasty comments).

It's really kinda fucked up that there are some people here that are willing to excuse a dox (her driver license and passport was released along with the sexy fun time pictures) because they don't like the person.
Well, in defence of some people here - I don't think that anything they have said so far goes towards actually endorsing the doxing - and even if it did, they also would have the right to say whatever the fuck they want (though not necessarily here due to policy restrictions).

Most of the sentiment seems to be of the kind - that they will not be shedding a tear for any of the injustices heaped upon this Jones character. Which I'm sure will not make a blind bit of difference to Jones herself.

Anyway - with a name like Jones she was probably Welsh - in which case she obviously deserved it.

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MarcusAu wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
I don't know what record you are referring to but no one had ever heard of Jones before the GB movie. I don't care if you think that she was saying racist things. She is allowed to do that. I don't care if she had a bunch of twitter meltdowns. Nobody knew who she was before GB. That movie and the retardness surrounding it is the only reason she became a person of interest.

Twitter btw can give special treatment to whoever they want. That does not give people license to dox this Jones. She has the right to say whatever the fuck she wants without the fear of people attacking her(I mean actually attacking like this dox, not nasty comments).

It's really kinda fucked up that there are some people here that are willing to excuse a dox (her driver license and passport was released along with the sexy fun time pictures) because they don't like the person.
Well, in defence of some people here - I don't think that anything they have said so far goes towards actually endorsing the doxing - and even if it did, they also would have the right to say whatever the fuck they want (though not necessarily here due to policy restrictions).

Most of the sentiment seems to be of the kind - that they will not be shedding a tear for any of the injustices heaped upon this Jones character. Which I'm sure will not make a blind bit of difference to Jones herself.

Anyway - with a name like Jones she was probably Welsh - in which case she obviously deserved it.
I would say that if you are against something then you should be against it no matter who is involved, but the fact that she may be Welsh has made me change my whole position.

Fuck the bitch.

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I didn't learn until today (because I only skimmed the headlines and didn't give a fuck if she lost some nudes) that her passport and DL were released.

I agree this is beyond the pale, the same as if she had family members or children who were also brought into this.

I hope they find who did this, and punish them to the full extent of the law.

That being said, fuck LJ's 'embarrassment'. She deserves some of that.

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On the Leslie Jones thing, I think a violation of privacy is a violation of privacy. I think if she was posting anonymous racist abuse and her identity was exposed that might be justified, but nude pics? Fuck off. That's not in the public interest. Even if she consented.

The purpose is to humiliate her. Which is also the intent of the naked Trump statues. Now that's not exactly the same because they're not real, but it will be interesting to see how SJWs criticise one but not the other.

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Clarence wrote: That being said, fuck LJ's 'embarrassment'. She deserves some of that.

I don't see what she has to be embarrassed about. Frankly she looks better without her clothes off.

And who doesn't like buttsex?

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Shatterface wrote:On the Leslie Jones thing, I think a violation of privacy is a violation of privacy. I think if she was posting anonymous racist abuse and her identity was exposed that might be justified, but nude pics? Fuck off. That's not in the public interest. Even if she consented.

The purpose is to humiliate her. Which is also the intent of the naked Trump statues. Now that's not exactly the same because they're not real, but it will be interesting to see how SJWs criticise one but not the other.
The Trump statues I am more ambiguous about. He is a political figure now and I think they get a lot less protection and that is important to democracy.

Now the shitfest that nude Clinton statues would cause would be fun to watch.

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comhcinc wrote:
Shatterface wrote:On the Leslie Jones thing, I think a violation of privacy is a violation of privacy. I think if she was posting anonymous racist abuse and her identity was exposed that might be justified, but nude pics? Fuck off. That's not in the public interest. Even if she consented.

The purpose is to humiliate her. Which is also the intent of the naked Trump statues. Now that's not exactly the same because they're not real, but it will be interesting to see how SJWs criticise one but not the other.
The Trump statues I am more ambiguous about. He is a political figure now and I think they get a lot less protection and that is important to democracy.

Now the shitfest that nude Clinton statues would cause would be fun to watch.
If you find people hacking up blood and vomit and dying on the spot or going insane and gibbering to the Old Ones 'fun' that doesn't say much good about you :P

LJ is the Goddess of Beauty and Sex compared to Clinton.

P.S LJ is now 50 or very nearly so. She looks good for her age, not so good that I'd want to see her nudes. Like I said, I wasn't much paying attention.

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In order to Play the Victim, Leslie has to pretend that the release of her nudes is the Worst Thing Evah.

Fuck that noise. Now actual sex, or esp something kinky (and the more unusual the worse it could be) or something she claimed to be disgusted by - THAT at least I could understand the embarassment.

But mere nudes? Actresses and actors and politicians should be able to get over them.
Whether the poor victims in the Free teh Pron, er "hacker" or "leaker" community can unsee what their poor eyes have seen is a different story, I'm sure ;)

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There were some action shots released but honestly she could if she wanted to, denied those are her because it's just tight shots.

Tight.

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The Leslie Jones doxx and privacy violation was ethically messed up. I don't care how hateful someone is, or how much of a crybully they are, if they're not threatening anyone or falsely accusing anyone they don't deserve to be punished, and even those who do those things (which isn't the case with Jones as far as I know, all I've read from her are dumb ideas) should be prosecuted by the justice system, not dealt with by Internet vigilantism.

Doxxing is wrong, people, with no "ifs" or "buts".


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I like those too Shatterface.

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Kirbmarc wrote:The Leslie Jones doxx and privacy violation was ethically messed up. I don't care how hateful someone is, or how much of a crybully they are, if they're not threatening anyone or falsely accusing anyone they don't deserve to be punished, and even those who do those things (which isn't the case with Jones as far as I know, all I've read from her are dumb ideas) should be prosecuted by the justice system, not dealt with by Internet vigilantism.

Doxxing is wrong, people, with no "ifs" or "buts".
We all agree Doxxing is wrong in this case.
I don't agree doxxing is wrong if the person doxxed makes a habit of doing it to others, esp not the person doing the doxxing.
Self defense and alla that.

The privacy violation involving her body I really don't care about.

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Shatterface wrote:Colouring is creative:

http://coloringbookcorruptions.com/wp-c ... _Tree.jpeg
Is that a Surly around the neck of Ogvorbzilla?

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Clarence wrote:I don't agree doxxing is wrong if the person doxxed makes a habit of doing it to others, esp not the person doing the doxxing.
Self defense and alla that.
Let me see if I've got your logic straight. Doxxing can be a self-defense against doxxing, meaning that retaliatory doxxing is supposed to be able to prevent doxxing. But if you're performing retaliatory doxxing, that means that you're doxxing after having been doxxed. So, I guess doxxing doesn't prevent future doxxing after all. And, yet, here you are telling me that doxxing is a self-defense against doxxing. Weird.

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
Clarence wrote:I don't agree doxxing is wrong if the person doxxed makes a habit of doing it to others, esp not the person doing the doxxing.
Self defense and alla that.
Let me see if I've got your logic straight. Doxxing can be a self-defense against doxxing, meaning that retaliatory doxxing is supposed to be able to prevent doxxing. But if you're performing retaliatory doxxing, that means that you're doxxing after having been doxxed. So, I guess doxxing doesn't prevent future doxxing after all. And, yet, here you are telling me that doxxing is a self-defense against doxxing. Weird.


I'm telling you that if people know you will retailiate in kind, it can help deter attacks.
The strategy is called 'tit for tat' and has been studied mathematically as a part of game theory. In some cases it makes sense.
I suppose you could call it M.A.D.

Either way, it doesn't work if you don't follow through every time, or nearly every time.

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Ah, you meant "deterrent" instead of "defense." Carry on.

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Just so everyone new knows, anyone who doxxes anyone else on the Pit is gone.

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Lsuoma wrote:Just so everyone new knows, anyone who doxxes anyone else on the Pit is gone.
You know that some of us like have legal squabbles, yes? Well, the above is ambiguous and can be read as suggesting that there is no prohibition against doxxing people who are not on the Pit, which I believe (and hope) is not what you meant.

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Skep tickle wrote:Have been musing: just think of all the societal issues that would be solved if everyone identified as a woman. No more testing or exclusion for sports, no more gender imbalance in boardrooms, and all bathrooms & changing rooms would be unisex.
And we men would finally be able to help you dress!

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:Just so everyone new knows, anyone who doxxes anyone else on the Pit is gone.
You know that some of us like have legal squabbles, yes? Well, the above is ambiguous and can be read as suggesting that there is no prohibition against doxxing people who are not on the Pit, which I believe (and hope) is not what you meant.
In case anyone was wondering, this troublemaker lives here:

https://goo.gl/maps/GFWu6Kazvwk

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I've moved. Ha Ha!

But that was pretty funny.

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The Original Ghostbusters was Racist Trash
I’m too wiped out from work to make a substantial case, but it’s around, you can no doubt find it elsewhere. My assertions:

The original two’s treatment of Ernie Hudson was awful. He was marginalized by everything from the script to the camerawork.

Evidence of where this comes from can be seen in earlier works of the writer Harold Ramis. Animal House and the like. Black people were always outsiders, while the fruits of their culture were front and center. Love that music, scared of the scary people and haha, ain’t we just funny like that?

And now, fans of the original hating on the new one have focused that hatred straight at the one black person in sight, to heights more disgusting than ever. Excuse me while I piss on your childhood, you racist misogynist pukes.

The original Ghostbusters was just like its fans: racist trash. Also, fuck all white nerd dudes off the planet, including myself if that’s the price I gotta pay. Let’s go. Let’s leave the humans alone, clearly we’re done with any pretense of being human ourselves, right?

ehhhhhh anyway, Don’t take everything I say too seriously. I got some calming down to do. Will moderate comments eventually. cu L8r.

Great American Satan is right, all white men are evil and I hate them.

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Further news on the UK Labour Party. They're about a month away from their annual conference, and they've decided to boycott G4S, who have done security for Labour Party conferences for years, because they take contracts in Israeli prisons. They put the contract out to tender, and the only company that put in a bid is Showsec. GMB, the bigest union in the security sector, have threatened to picket the conference if Showsec get the contract, because Showsec have refused to sign up to GMB's "recognition agreement", preferring a less formal "partnership agreement". So the party have gone cap in hand back to G4S, who have told them to fuck away off.

Tony Blair was a corrupt opportunist shyster, and Gordon Brown was a devious malevolent book-cooker. But I'm looking at the current shower of useless eejits, and I'm talking about both Corbyn's thugs and the parliamentary party's backstabbing suits, and thinking at least Blair and Brown were grown-ups, and could pretend to like each other strategically to get things done. Compared to this lot, even poor hopeless Ed Milliband looks like a statesman. Arthur Scargill put a better face on the left than this. They've have retreated into full-blown student union gesture politics and union gangsterism. Meanwhile, Teresa May has a free hand to govern from the right with no electoral mandate and no opposition whatsoever.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08 ... plea-to-p/
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... e-security
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 09861.html

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VickyCaramel wrote: Just to set the record straight, this wasn't because of the shitty movie. Jones has a history of making racist comments on twitter, not massively black supremacist kill whitey stuff, but definitely the kind of things whites couldn't get away with saying about blacks. She was confrontational and abusive and it was reported that she had several "twitter meltdowns". She certainly didn't go out of her way to avoid the trolls.
Unsurprising behavior from someone whose career has been limited to playing "Angry Subway Patron", "Disgruntled Customer", "Sassy Cab Driver" etc. And now her profession is professional "Angry Black Woman -- But Don't You Dare Call Me That!!"

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dogen wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:Everything I know about red dwarfs came from a guy named Arnold Rimmer.
And his twin 'Ace' taught me that winners break their fast with cured haddock.
Ummm ... Herring i think you'll find.



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paddybrown wrote:Further news on the UK Labour Party. They're about a month away from their annual conference, and they've decided to boycott G4S, who have done security for Labour Party conferences for years, because they take contracts in Israeli prisons. They put the contract out to tender, and the only company that put in a bid is Showsec. GMB, the bigest union in the security sector, have threatened to picket the conference if Showsec get the contract, because Showsec have refused to sign up to GMB's "recognition agreement", preferring a less formal "partnership agreement". So the party have gone cap in hand back to G4S, who have told them to fuck away off.

Tony Blair was a corrupt opportunist shyster, and Gordon Brown was a devious malevolent book-cooker. But I'm looking at the current shower of useless eejits, and I'm talking about both Corbyn's thugs and the parliamentary party's backstabbing suits, and thinking at least Blair and Brown were grown-ups, and could pretend to like each other strategically to get things done. Compared to this lot, even poor hopeless Ed Milliband looks like a statesman. Arthur Scargill put a better face on the left than this. They've have retreated into full-blown student union gesture politics and union gangsterism. Meanwhile, Teresa May has a free hand to govern from the right with no electoral mandate and no opposition whatsoever.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08 ... plea-to-p/
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... e-security
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 09861.html
To turn things around, Labour should take efforts to appeal to the moslem vote. That should do the trick.

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From what I understand, Corbyn has already insulted Islam too deeply for him to get the votes of muslims. He was recently offered 72 empty virgins and turned them all down. Granted, these empty virgins were seats on a train, instead of houris, but even that was too close.

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paddybrown wrote:Further news on the UK Labour Party. They're about a month away from their annual conference, and they've decided to boycott G4S, who have done security for Labour Party conferences for years, because they take contracts in Israeli prisons. They put the contract out to tender, and the only company that put in a bid is Showsec. GMB, the bigest union in the security sector, have threatened to picket the conference if Showsec get the contract, because Showsec have refused to sign up to GMB's "recognition agreement", preferring a less formal "partnership agreement". So the party have gone cap in hand back to G4S, who have told them to fuck away off.

Tony Blair was a corrupt opportunist shyster, and Gordon Brown was a devious malevolent book-cooker. But I'm looking at the current shower of useless eejits, and I'm talking about both Corbyn's thugs and the parliamentary party's backstabbing suits, and thinking at least Blair and Brown were grown-ups, and could pretend to like each other strategically to get things done. Compared to this lot, even poor hopeless Ed Milliband looks like a statesman. Arthur Scargill put a better face on the left than this. They've have retreated into full-blown student union gesture politics and union gangsterism. Meanwhile, Teresa May has a free hand to govern from the right with no electoral mandate and no opposition whatsoever.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08 ... plea-to-p/
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... e-security
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 09861.html
I for one would be quite glad to see Showsec provide security, because the spectacle of a picket line outside a Labour party conference would be worth its weight in gold. :lol:

Dear god, what a pathetic shambles. Utterly unelectable. The tories must be pissing themselves with laughter.

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Shatterface wrote:I think this year's most ironic story will be that Birth of a Nation will be boycotted by black people because it's black director was accused of raping a white woman.

Unless the same happens with the black director of a remake of To Kill a Mockingbird
It is a fascinating story, especially since the woman he was accused of raping committed suicide a few years ago, apparently 'cos she couldn't get over the trauma.

Not too many SJWs have broken ranks and backed Nate Parker, despite "The Birth of a Nation" being an *important* film.

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comhcinc wrote:
I would say that if you are against something then you should be against it no matter who is involved, but the fact that she may be Welsh has made me change my whole position.
Coal dust? No, dey wus black. We wuz Celts, we wus Kingz n shit boyo.

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Just read somewhere that the FBI are getting involved in the investigation as to who hacked Leslie Jones.

Were they involved in any other investigations into hacks of celebrity nudes? If not, what is so special about Jones?

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CommanderTuvok wrote:Just read somewhere that the FBI are getting involved in the investigation as to who hacked Leslie Jones.

Were they involved in any other investigations into hacks of celebrity nudes? If not, what is so special about Jones?
It was the FBI that caught Ryan Collins, the guy who hacked Jennifer Lawrence's iCloud.

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CommanderTuvok wrote:Just read somewhere that the FBI are getting involved in the investigation as to who hacked Leslie Jones.

Were they involved in any other investigations into hacks of celebrity nudes? If not, what is so special about Jones?

FBI, Apple Probe Jennifer Lawrence

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VickyCaramel wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
I would say that if you are against something then you should be against it no matter who is involved, but the fact that she may be Welsh has made me change my whole position.
coal-miners-dirty-job-vintage-retro-images-archive.jpg
Coal dust? No, dey wus black. We wuz Celts, we wus Kingz n shit boyo.
Not too far from me they often celebrate mayday with blackface- it's a celebration of mining etc.
This usually gets attacked as racism, the fact that the locals call it 'blackie day' doesn't help.

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Okay, okay, the FBI do get their arses into gear......but I'm guessing for celebrities only.

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Releasing Leslie Jones nudes on the internet is the porn equivalent of sarin gas on the underground.
The FBI are right to be involved.

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CommanderTuvok wrote:
Shatterface wrote:I think this year's most ironic story will be that Birth of a Nation will be boycotted by black people because it's black director was accused of raping a white woman.

Unless the same happens with the black director of a remake of To Kill a Mockingbird
It is a fascinating story, especially since the woman he was accused of raping committed suicide a few years ago, apparently 'cos she couldn't get over the trauma.

Not too many SJWs have broken ranks and backed Nate Parker, despite "The Birth of a Nation" being an *important* film.
The Oscars will be interesting if it's the only 'worthy' Black film this year but it doesn't get nominated.

Will we get an #OscarsSoWhite rerun if Black critics have turned against the one film that could have won?

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Ada "I sure hope more police die today" Wells has resigned as Edinburgh University Student Union LGBT Officer.

S/h/it is now complaining about receiving death threats.

http://thetab.com/uk/edinburgh/2016/08/ ... aign=xpost

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CommanderTuvok wrote:Okay, okay, the FBI do get their arses into gear......but I'm guessing for celebrities only.
No. I know of at least one case of the FBI getting involved in a hacked photos thing.

It's just that most of the time it's people who are not famous so we never hear of it.

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HunnyBunny wrote:Ada "I sure hope more police die today" Wells has resigned as Edinburgh University Student Union LGBT Officer.

S/h/it is now complaining about receiving death threats.

http://thetab.com/uk/edinburgh/2016/08/ ... aign=xpost
I'm guessing "they" (Ada) was able to show evidence of these death threats? I wonder if "they" were confusing them were "their" own desires to police officers killed.

How the fuck did this creep get into that position? Well, the same reason why paedophiles likes Sarah Nyberg get a free pass from SJWs. I feel sorry for regular trans people that they seem to be represented by these rabid arseholes who think they can abuse and bully everybody just because they are trans.

Ada can fuck the fuck off, the fucking abusive cretin. "They" sound EXACTLY like the same type of people who dwell at Pharyngula or The Orbit.

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HunnyBunny wrote:Ada "I sure hope more police die today" Wells has resigned as Edinburgh University Student Union LGBT Officer.

S/h/it is now complaining about receiving death threats.

http://thetab.com/uk/edinburgh/2016/08/ ... aign=xpost
If only there was an organisation she could report those threats to.

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DrokkIt wrote:
VickyCaramel wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
I would say that if you are against something then you should be against it no matter who is involved, but the fact that she may be Welsh has made me change my whole position.
coal-miners-dirty-job-vintage-retro-images-archive.jpg
Coal dust? No, dey wus black. We wuz Celts, we wus Kingz n shit boyo.
Not too far from me they often celebrate mayday with blackface- it's a celebration of mining etc.
This usually gets attacked as racism, the fact that the locals call it 'blackie day' doesn't help.
Hey, intent doesn't matter. :naughty: :snooty:

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HunnyBunny wrote:Ada "I sure hope more police die today" Wells has resigned as Edinburgh University Student Union LGBT Officer.

S/h/it is now complaining about receiving death threats.

http://thetab.com/uk/edinburgh/2016/08/ ... aign=xpost
There is ongoing investigation into Ada’s conduct as an ordinary student.
Bet that smarted. Nothing these attention whores hate more than being 'ordinary'.

Notice they never manage to have a proper overdose? How hard can it be? People do it accidentally all the time.

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Transphobes have shown up over at Mumsnet (for those outside the UK, mumsnet is the fount of all knowledge for mums in the UK. If you aren't on mumsnet it is probably because you are in prison for child neglect from not being on mumsnet).

In the past few months mums have been noticing that anyone who suggests there is no such thing as girlcock are being censored. Some mums are not happy and are demanding their right to free transphobic speech. In a thread titled "TransAgenda BullShit: The I am Spartacus Thread", gems of common sense have been appearing:
I am Oscar,
Men cannot become women, ever. Women cannot become men, ever.

Anna Lee is a man. And I shall refer to him as he.
Ada Wells is a man. And I shall refer to him as he.
Paris Lees is a man. And I shall refer to him as he.
Alex Drummond is a man. And I shall refer to him as he.
Danielle Muscato is a man. And I shall refer to him as he.
Buck Angel is a woman. And I shall refer to her as she.
I am Olenna

A man cannot become a woman, no matter what he does to himself (including medical and surgical procedures he may undergo), and no matter how he chooses to present himself (including his manner of dress, hairstyle, 'mannerisms', name and preferred pronouns).
Equally, a woman cannot become a man, no matter what she does to herself.

I shall not deviate from this position. To do so would be insanity.

I shall conduct myself politely and with the respect that individuals are due simply by virtue of them being human beings.

I deplore the oppression of any individual on the basis of how they present themselves in public or in private. I support the right of adult MTT and FTT to make whatever changes they wish to their bodies and to present themselves however they wish. I oppose any discrimination such individuals may face. MTT and FTT may face particular difficulties, e.g. with regard to accessing appropriate and sensitively delivered healthcare, and I fully support their rights to obtain the services that they require on an equal footing with any other person.

D'ya geddit, MNHQ? I am really not a bigot and am really not a transphobe.

BUT MTT are NOT women. And FTT are NOT men.

If on the basis of this, you wish to ban me, so be it
I am Page.

Women do not have penises.

Women cannot rape other people with their penises, because women don't have penises.

A person with a penis who wants to have sex with women is a straight man. Not a lesbian.

A person with a penis is a man.

I respect the right of anyone to live their lives free from oppression, discrimination and hatred. That includes women.

Calling a male person with a penis "a man" is not an expression of oppression, discrimination or hatred. It is an expression of biological truth.
It is surprising the number of posts that mention Dave Muscato; his infamy has breached the confines of mother and baby groups worldwide.

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/ ... hread?pg=1

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Shatterface wrote:Bet that smarted. Nothing these attention whores hate more than being 'ordinary'.

Notice they never manage to have a proper overdose? How hard can it be? People do it accidentally all the time.
I've heard it said that men commit suicide 4-1 to women, only because they are so much more resourceful and successful when it comes to the attempt. Don't know if true or not. If true, it is probably "sexist" to point it out, since it implies men are better at a certain task (i.e. suicide) than women......

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If mumsnet has turned against transwomen where are they going to go for pregnancy advice?

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CommanderTuvok wrote:
Shatterface wrote:Bet that smarted. Nothing these attention whores hate more than being 'ordinary'.

Notice they never manage to have a proper overdose? How hard can it be? People do it accidentally all the time.
I've heard it said that men commit suicide 4-1 to women, only because they are so much more resourceful and successful when it comes to the attempt. Don't know if true or not. If true, it is probably "sexist" to point it out, since it implies men are better at a certain task (i.e. suicide) than women......

:whistle:
They's failure at suicide may be the best evidence that they are female.

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The Edinburgh Student's Union is the same union where 5 months ago their (now former) Sabbatical Officer was nearly kicked out of a meeting for raising her hand, and later shaking her head.
Student Association policy says that council members should be respectful and considerate.

Section 6C of the safe space policy is defined as: “Refraining from hand gestures which denote disagreement or in any other way indicating disagreement with a point or points being made. Disagreements should only be evident through the normal course of debate.”
Ada Wells later said:
Our policy bans displays of negativity because they can be off-putting to speakers
http://thetab.com/uk/edinburgh/2016/04/ ... -row-23303

On reflection I wish she hadn't resigned, EUSA and Ada deserve each other., and the world could continue to point and laugh

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Hunt wrote:
DrokkIt wrote:
Not too far from me they often celebrate mayday with blackface- it's a celebration of mining etc.
This usually gets attacked as racism, the fact that the locals call it 'blackie day' doesn't help.
Hey, intent doesn't matter. :naughty: :snooty:

Fuck, I forgot to "google it and educate myself shitlord".

BTW today someone posted the above as a explanation as to why he is unfriending anyone making fun of trigger warnings or safespaces and will not explain why.
I make fun of these things (and pretty much everything) all the time but I notice I remain unblocked. Definitely SUPER SERIOUS.

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Wouldn't it be amusing if the "death threats" received by Ada Wells were something like "I hope you die today" such that calling them "death threats" was an admission of s/h/it's own death threats against cops?

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The thing about "intent isn't magic" is exactly false. For a person whose goal is to remain true to oneself, intent is the sine qua non of an action and any miscalculation of cause and effect on one's actions are secondary. Intent is, in fact, magic.

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