The Refuge of the Toads

#52201

Here we go - a snippet of Milo's latest.

Where he does not talk about
- atheists being annoying
- lesbians being non existent
- transexuals being beyond the pale

Though he does get in a shot at anime geeks.

This troll (sorry 'Provocateur') stuff seems like a good way to get yourself noticed (at least initially) - but he can switch to serious when he wants.

Actually he comes across as a jilted leftist.

#52202

BoxNDox wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
When my sister was applying for a job at the Aotea Centre - she asked the (American) interviewer how the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi were applied to the position.

Isn't the correct response to that to ask which version, English or Māori?

She doesn't speak a word of Māori, and is of Anglo/Irish/Welsho decent. It was pure gamesmanship on her part.

#52203

MarcusAu wrote:Imagine everyone in the room is naked...

... unless you are actually in a room of naked people.

So it's an atheist/skeptic conference?

#52204

katamari Damassi wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:Imagine everyone in the room is naked...

... unless you are actually in a room of naked people.
So it's an atheist/skeptic conference?

I don't think I could get a word out if I was looking at a naked Szvan, Meyers, and reGreta.

#52205

MarcusAu wrote:The pit will always be here for you

Fuck me, that is terrible. Even by this pair of idiots' standards.

#52206

Brive1987 wrote:Re the Marne. No legend should be dissed which supports the notion French taxi drivers are cunts.

All Parisian taxis and their drivers were immediately assembled at the Esplanade des Invalides. "What about the fare," asked one of the taxi drivers. Compensation eventually did materialize at 27% of the meter reading.
http://www.worldwar1.com/heritage/marnetaxis.htm

Why did you ruin a perfectly good point with the unnecessary words "taxi drivers"?

#52207

http://aplus.com/a/university-of-chicag ... 0556fe0b22

A suicidal gender studies student enrols for a course in Atrocities and Genocide journalsim. Leaves class in tears because of the content, explaining to the professor on the way out about her issues. Professor contacts health services, as he should, and she is complaining because she was then sectioned and this apparently makes her less likely to reach out for help.

And all of this could have been avoided by trigger warnings? The content warning was clearly in the course title and description. She is articulate enough to write at length about her condition for several years, then she should be articulate enough to discuss a course which clearly has potential to exacerbate her illness before she sits down in class. Responsibility for your own health has to factor into these discussions.

Choosing to enrol in Gender Studies should be part of DSM

#52208

OK, had to skim over 4 pages to get up to speed, the one thing that comes to mind is, please stop it! No way in hell did the Red Baron rape Corey Haim. He was never on the set of Lucas.

#52209

HunnyBunny wrote:http://aplus.com/a/university-of-chicag ... 0556fe0b22

A suicidal gender studies student enrols for a course in Atrocities and Genocide journalsim. Leaves class in tears because of the content, explaining to the professor on the way out about her issues. Professor contacts health services, as he should, and she is complaining because she was then sectioned and this apparently makes her less likely to reach out for help.
...

Umm, Trigger Warning, please? The first part of that URL gave me flashbacks.

I'm confused - Surely, she had been sectioned she would have had the help she needed?

#52210

Game: Who dese?

#52211

ERV wrote:Game: Who dese?

The golden dildo club?

#52212

HINTS:
Left: Jewish Egyptian, saved millions upon millions of lives.
Right: Literally wrote the textbook on Virology.

#52213

ERV wrote:HINTS:
Left: Jewish Egyptian, saved millions upon millions of lives.
Right: Literally wrote the textbook on Virology.

.... I'm sticking with my original answer.

#52214

ERV wrote:Game: Who dese?

Three old white dudes, so who the fuck cares. Probably make polite conversation in elevators, the pricks.

#52215

comhcinc wrote:
Spike13 wrote:
CommanderTuvok wrote:Quite a few on Twitter are suggesting an actor known for "winning"...

...but it looks as though a lot are simply guessing and coming up with names.

We'll see.
A smart speculator might start by seeing who Haim worked with early in his career that was or became an "A" list actor...although A list is an term with some flexibility.
I'm hoping for Wil Wheaton.

Please be true as I hate that cunt.

#52216

HunnyBunny wrote:http://aplus.com/a/university-of-chicag ... 0556fe0b22

A suicidal gender studies student enrols for a course in Atrocities and Genocide journalsim. Leaves class in tears because of the content, explaining to the professor on the way out about her issues. Professor contacts health services, as he should, and she is complaining because she was then sectioned and this apparently makes her less likely to reach out for help.

And all of this could have been avoided by trigger warnings? The content warning was clearly in the course title and description. She is articulate enough to write at length about her condition for several years, then she should be articulate enough to discuss a course which clearly has potential to exacerbate her illness before she sits down in class. Responsibility for your own health has to factor into these discussions.

Choosing to enrol in Gender Studies should be part of DSM

The headline should have been "Lack of trigger warnings saved my life", with a sub of "Student tells how University Prof calling police when she was feeling suicidal stopped her swallowing a bucketful of pills".

Or: "When victim points go bad: student trying to explain lack of crucial essay gets called on her bullshit and ends up in psych ward. Boofuckinghoo".

#52217

Dav Boo wrote:There's my fuck off, now where's my links?

Learn how the quote function works you spastic cunt.

Fucked up the quotes didn't you. Glasshouses and all that.[/quote]

I had to show how you fucked up the quotes so i left them in, though spastic cunt was a bit harsh so sorry about that.

#52218

#52219

Norman Borlog and Charlie Sheen

#52220

ERV wrote:HINTS:
Left: Jewish Egyptian, saved millions upon millions of lives.
Right: Literally wrote the textbook on Virology.

Jane Flint?

#52221

CommanderTuvok wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:http://imgur.com/M0V8TFK.jpg
Pinned to the bottom of the sea? Was PZ involving her in his octopus rape games?

People who surf Jaws in Hawaii get pinned down for a minute. People who surf shore breaks in LA might get held under for 2-3 seconds. Anybody who surfs would laugh at her (and join the people who know science that laugh at her)

#52222

ERV wrote:HINTS:
Left: Jewish Egyptian, saved millions upon millions of lives.
Right: Literally wrote the textbook on Virology.

Middle: Became assimilated by the Borg, had implants removed, is fine again.

#52223

MarcusAu wrote:Norman Borlog and Charlie Sheen

I'm hoping for Jeremy Piven, because he's kind of hot, but also kind of a douche.

#52224

katamari Damassi wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:Norman Borlog and Charlie Sheen
I'm hoping for Jeremy Piven, because he's kind of hot, but also kind of a douche.

I

I've not read enough, or followed enough social media to know - but a douche sounds kind of refreshing.

#52225

ERV wrote:HINTS:
Left: Jewish Egyptian, saved millions upon millions of lives.
Right: Literally wrote the textbook on Virology.

If that's Raymond Schinazi, he's looking old.

I'm pretty sure the other one is Peter Vogt.

#52226

So, Abbie - if someone says 'John Snow' - who is it that you first think of?

#52227

Sweet droogs? Going to reward yourself with a party for indulging in self destructive behavior?
I'm not saying, but plenty of people are, in a Trumpian way that this is a call for help.
Careful Becky, other Skepchicks have gone down that path... :naughty:

#52228

Droogs are not sweet

#52229

BoxNDox wrote:
ERV wrote:HINTS:
Left: Jewish Egyptian, saved millions upon millions of lives.
Right: Literally wrote the textbook on Virology.
If that's Raymond Schinazi, he's looking old.

I'm pretty sure the other one is Peter Vogt.

:)

#52230

MarcusAu wrote:So, Abbie - if someone says 'John Snow' - who is it that you first think of?

Cholera. That's not a virus, though, so it took my brain 15 minutes to get there.

#52231

Hand in your geek card.

#52232

ERV wrote:Uuugh. Uuugh I'm going to have to introduce myself to people. Uuugh. Uuuuuugh I'm dead and this is hell uuuuuuuuuugh.

Get on the stage, give them a stern look and say "You know who I am. Now, to the point of my presentation…"

#52233

HunnyBunny wrote:http://aplus.com/a/university-of-chicag ... 0556fe0b22

A suicidal gender studies student enrols for a course in Atrocities and Genocide journalsim. Leaves class in tears because of the content, explaining to the professor on the way out about her issues. Professor contacts health services, as he should, and she is complaining because she was then sectioned and this apparently makes her less likely to reach out for help.

And all of this could have been avoided by trigger warnings? The content warning was clearly in the course title and description. She is articulate enough to write at length about her condition for several years, then she should be articulate enough to discuss a course which clearly has potential to exacerbate her illness before she sits down in class. Responsibility for your own health has to factor into these discussions.

Choosing to enrol in Gender Studies should be part of DSM

I once hunted down and viewed an IS execution video as it seemed the informed thing to do.

I was quite shocked and still have an evil mind picture I can't get rid of.

I didn't realise I could complain to someone about what was done to me. Thank you.

#52234

HunnyBunny wrote:A suicidal gender studies student enrols for a course in Atrocities and Genocide journalsim.

and

And all of this could have been avoided by trigger warnings?

The trigger warning was already in the course title. What did they expect? If you're such unimaginative adult what guarantee we have that more trigger warning won't get misread if the title of the course was?

#52235

Spike13 wrote:The M&M's /Skittles example actually plays better for Trumps point than for feminists.
When you take in refugees, you're getting literally unvetted handfuls. Who really knows what you're going to end up with.

On the whole poisoned M&M/Skittle analogy. It is rather poor.

Of course the vast majority of people would not eat any. Much easier and safer to grab a Snickers bar, or walk down to the store to buy a new bag of Skittles or M&Ms. We have readily available alternatives to poisoned M&M's and Skittles.

Now when they compare the 10% poised M&M's to men... there really isn't an alternative unless one choose to remain celibate or lesbian for the rest of their lives. To live a full life you pretty much have to take chances. That would be more like "Hey, some portion of the entire food supply is poised, or contaminated and may kill you." And that is in fact the case. Some produce gets infected with pathogens. You have the rare poisoner.

Now when it comes to immigrants from countries where terrorism is more prolific, there is nothing that requires us to take in those immigrants. We aren't really losing out on much.

Of course a more thorough screening makes more sense than banning them all completely.

#52236

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Most of the so-called "refugees" are fucking coward 20-to-40 men who'd rather leave their country and leave their women and children fight the fuckers instead of staying there and fight themselves.

What, not offensive enough? Or not true enough?

Given their choice, I would leave with wife & children.

#52237

Spike13 wrote:Given that we hve bombs going off in Seaside Park NJ, dumpsters exploding in Manhattan, someone getting stabby in the Midwest, husband /wife team shooting up Christmas parties, gat club in Florida getting shot up. And all these incidences have one thing in common.

I'd say we have enough of them at the moment.

Captain Stabby from the mall immigrated to the US with his parents when he was 3 months old. Bomb boy immigrated to the US with his parents when he was 7 years old.

#52238

So you are saying we shouldn't allow children refugees.

#52239

comhcinc wrote:So you are saying we shouldn't allow children refugees.

How can they know that they truly want to flee?

I see this as being very similar to the circumcision debate.

#52240

Manspreading the toxic masculinity, or: Politics of Parking Lots, or: if I can't blame anyone people will realize it's on me. Featuring: calling people rednecks, claiming moral superiority.

#52241

That pineapple didn't eat itself.

Just saying.

#52242

No matter how I look at it (and I've spent some time on this) I just can't see the problem they are having with this picture.

http://i.imgur.com/H4ZJTu2.jpg

#52243

sp0tlight wrote:The trigger warning was already in the course title. What did they expect? If you're such unimaginative adult what guarantee we have that more trigger warning won't get misread if the title of the course was?

I believe her complaint runs along the lines of "I was promised atrocities and genocide, I got video of suicides."

#52244

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Re the Marne. No legend should be dissed which supports the notion French taxi drivers are cunts.

All Parisian taxis and their drivers were immediately assembled at the Esplanade des Invalides. "What about the fare," asked one of the taxi drivers. Compensation eventually did materialize at 27% of the meter reading.
http://www.worldwar1.com/heritage/marnetaxis.htm
Why did you ruin a perfectly good point with the unnecessary words "taxi drivers"?

I love you too, fuckface.

#52245

deLurch wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Most of the so-called "refugees" are fucking coward 20-to-40 men who'd rather leave their country and leave their women and children fight the fuckers instead of staying there and fight themselves.

What, not offensive enough? Or not true enough?
Given their choice, I would leave with wife & children.

Yes, agreed, but they don't. They leave the women and kids behind. There is actually sound logic in that decision, in that the voyage is long, tiring and dangerous. So they go first and have the family join them later on.

But the harsh truth is that those men of fighting age, who seem fit enough to attack truck drivers in Calais, for example, should be in their own country fighting the savages who have ruined it.

#52246

comhcinc wrote:So you are saying we shouldn't allow children refugees.

Agreed. And we shouldn't allow child hunger.

See what I did there?

#52247

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
deLurch wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Most of the so-called "refugees" are fucking coward 20-to-40 men who'd rather leave their country and leave their women and children fight the fuckers instead of staying there and fight themselves.

What, not offensive enough? Or not true enough?
Given their choice, I would leave with wife & children.
Yes, agreed, but they don't. They leave the women and kids behind. There is actually sound logic in that decision, in that the voyage is long, tiring and dangerous. So they go first and have the family join them later on.

But the harsh truth is that those men of fighting age, who seem fit enough to attack truck drivers in Calais, for example, should be in their own country fighting the savages who have ruined it.

Wanting to leave France to get to England? A national disgrace for France. Greasy fry-ups instead of haute-couture? Vindaloo and not coq-au-vin? This cannot stand. For the sake of gaullic pride, les miserables, they must not cross (la Channel). Grab your pitch-forks and hie thee to Calais.

#52248

You have to wonder why so many would specifically want to go to England. Ulterior motives?

#52249

Shelby's side of the Tulsa shooting story:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/tulsa-police-o ... d=42243843

#52250

MarcusAu wrote:Here we go - a snippet of Milo's latest.

Where he does not talk about
- atheists being annoying
- lesbians being non existent
- transexuals being beyond the pale

Though he does get in a shot at anime geeks.

This troll (sorry 'Provocateur') stuff seems like a good way to get yourself noticed (at least initially) - but he can switch to serious when he wants.

Actually he comes across as a jilted leftist.

It has never been about left and right. It is all about classical liberals against the regressives. The right has cottoned onto this so every time the useul idiots like Myers open his mouth the right get more votes and the left lose them. This is because the left have shut down free speach and are trying their best to control society thought their lies and malicious attacks on everyone, left or right, who does not suck them off in supplication (that silly Allies concept) All so they can be as corrupt and malicious as they want with no fear of facing the conseuqunces (CON is a clear example of this but so are most Universities and numerous examples of families, including children, being harmed irrevocably)

In the meantime Sudia Arabia, as a major shareholder in Twitter, is having a wonderful time financing those who scream 'Islamaphobia' and every opportunity. The Culteral Marxists can't belive their luck either. So a bunch of useless idiots ready for the taking.

So of course Milo sounds left wing because HE IS. There are no wings now. That concept died several years ago.

Virtue signalling (Myer's favourite hobby) , behaving like a toddler on speed, routinley lying, using only feelings to decide what is true or what someone is allowed to say, abusing the 'out crowd', using strawmen and other logical fallacies (The silly M and M concept and 'if you are not a Feminist you don't support equality' are easy for us to spot but for the gullible they fall into their trap.

They also close down all freedom to speak and create reinforcing echo chamners which are very mentally unhealthy. They harm people.

THEY HARM AND KILL.

So fuck the left and right. It's about basic freedoms this world fights hard for. Anyone fighting for it I will support even if i disagree with them, including Milo.

#52251

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:You have to wonder why so many would specifically want to go to England. Ulterior motives?

There is a reputation for being a promised land re-welfare, which is hopefully changing. I think language is a factor, many of these migrants seem to have at least some basic English. I'm sure that some have friends or family here already also.

#52252

comhcinc wrote:So you are saying we shouldn't allow children refugees.

I am saying there appears to be a pattern that it is not the immigrants themselves, but the children who grow up in the US, travel back to the middle east, somehow get radicalized. Unless we can find a way to stop this process, it may make sense to stop Muslim immigrants from countries with a history of terrorism.

#52253

So you are saying we should eat the children of immigrants.

#52254

deLurch wrote:
comhcinc wrote:So you are saying we shouldn't allow children refugees.
I am saying there appears to be a pattern that it is not the immigrants themselves, but the children who grow up in the US, travel back to the middle east, somehow get radicalized. Unless we can find a way to stop this process, it may make sense to stop Muslim immigrants from countries with a history of terrorism.

Forbid any immigrant under 18 to travel to their parents' country. They left for a reason, didn't they?

okay, maybe that's a bit too much.

#52255

JackSkeptic wrote: It has never been about left and right. It is all about classical liberals against the regressives. The right has cottoned onto this so every time the useul idiots like Myers open his mouth the right get more votes and the left lose them. This is because the left have shut down free speach and are trying their best to control society thought their lies and malicious attacks on everyone, left or right, who does not suck them off in supplication (that silly Allies concept) All so they can be as corrupt and malicious as they want with no fear of facing the conseuqunces (CON is a clear example of this but so are most Universities and numerous examples of families, including children, being harmed irrevocably)

In the meantime Sudia Arabia, as a major shareholder in Twitter, is having a wonderful time financing those who scream 'Islamaphobia' and every opportunity. The Culteral Marxists can't belive their luck either. So a bunch of useless idiots ready for the taking.

So of course Milo sounds left wing because HE IS. There are no wings now. That concept died several years ago.

Virtue signalling (Myer's favourite hobby) , behaving like a toddler on speed, routinley lying, using only feelings to decide what is true or what someone is allowed to say, abusing the 'out crowd', using strawmen and other logical fallacies (The silly M and M concept and 'if you are not a Feminist you don't support equality' are easy for us to spot but for the gullible they fall into their trap.

They also close down all freedom to speak and create reinforcing echo chamners which are very mentally unhealthy. They harm people.

THEY HARM AND KILL.

So fuck the left and right. It's about basic freedoms this world fights hard for. Anyone fighting for it I will support even if i disagree with them, including Milo.

Quoted for truth. The problem has deep roots. It basically stems from a refusal to accept reality when it contrasts with one's dogmas. The authoritarian left has its origins in the post-modern "narratives", which basically mean "if you don't like evidence because it goes against your theory, change the evidence and blame those who found it".

Social progress used to be about checking old ideas about fixed social roles against evidence. Now it's about promoting new fixed social roles according to new ideas detached from evidence.

It's not enough to acknowledge that some people don't completely fit into a sex/gender binary but can still be functional member of their society, it's the sex/gender binary which is socially constructed (despite an enormous amount of evidence against this idea) and so must be destroyed.

It's not enough to acknowledge that gender roles are based on statistical differences, not on immutable and prescriptive god-given laws, and that exceptions to statistical trends exist. No, the statistical differences must be destroyed because once again they're socially constructed (again despite a huge amount of evidence that tells us otherwise).

Social issues mustn't be analyzed taking into account all the relevant factors, and what statistical evidence tells us. No, it's all about "narratives", and to hell with inconvenient evidence.

Someone who bases its understanding of reality on evidence-based skepticism cannot side with the authoritarian left. They'll have to choose between skepticism and SJW dogmas sooner or later.

People like PZ Myers chose "Social Justice" and "divorced themselves" from skepticism (redefying it as "hyper-skepticism"). They've become ideologically-based cranks just like the creationists.

It's all about skepticism vs. dogma. The only difference between ideas like "transwomyn are naturally born womyn" and "dinosaurs and humans lived in the same geological era" is that the latter is inspired by a religion with a supernatural god and the former by a religion which has turned an abstract ideal into its god.

#52256

ERV wrote:Game: Who dese?

Guy in the middle used to be a Pitter. Departed life in tragic circumstances.

#52257

deLurch wrote:
comhcinc wrote:So you are saying we shouldn't allow children refugees.
I am saying there appears to be a pattern that it is not the immigrants themselves, but the children who grow up in the US, travel back to the middle east, somehow get radicalized. Unless we can find a way to stop this process, it may make sense to stop Muslim immigrants from countries with a history of terrorism.

Target the networks of preachers who seed anti-modern, anti-democratic, anti-Western ideas in their communities. Stop foreign funding to religious/political institutions with a history of dubious behavior, and set the IRS onto them. Do thorough background checks on people who claim to be community leaders and political/social activists. Reduce and regulate immigration, institute higher standards for permission to stay and for naturalization. Try to gradually disentangle from the alliance with countries which are the Islamic State with more oil (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrein, UAE, Kuwait).

#52258

Kirbmarc wrote:Target the networks of preachers who seed anti-modern, anti-democratic, anti-Western ideas in their communities. Stop foreign funding to religious/political institutions with a history of dubious behavior, and set the IRS onto them. Do thorough background checks on people who claim to be community leaders and political/social activists. Reduce and regulate immigration, institute higher standards for permission to stay and for naturalization. Try to gradually disentangle from the alliance with countries which are the Islamic State with more oil (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrein, UAE, Kuwait).

Kind of what I have been thinking. UAE funded preachers coming in from the middle east, dragging our immigrants back into the dark ages.

#52259

MacGruberKnows wrote: Wanting to leave France to get to England? A national disgrace for France. Greasy fry-ups instead of haute-couture? Vindaloo and not coq-au-vin? This cannot stand. For the sake of gaullic pride, les miserables, they must not cross (la Channel). Grab your pitch-forks and hie thee to Calais.

Having spent three weeks in France this summer and thus become an expert on all things French, I can say that the notion French cuisine is more sophisticated than English is a myth. All they eat is cheese and ham sandwiches. The pinnacle of which is the croque madame, a cheese and ham toastie with a fried egg on top.* Delicious.

Having said that, a fresh croissant first thing in the morning is lovely.

*But not spam.

#52260

Kirbmarc wrote: Try to gradually disentangle from the alliance with countries which are the Islamic State with more oil (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrein, UAE, Kuwait).

I know you said gradually - but still - if people in the UK were worried about the effect of Brexit on their economy - I'm don't think that they would be willing to even consider untangling some of these relationships. The stockmarkets and banks are highly connected.