The Refuge of the Toads

#53101

I give it 70/30 in favor of Clinton, but I'm predisposed to people that actually try to at least hint at policy details. I think Trump got more audience approval, and this election has taught me to never ever trust my instincts again. We'll check the polls tomorrow.

#53102

Well, there was a lot of sniping, a lot of 'no that's a lie' from both sides. Hillary was clearly very iffy about the email thing. Donald kept on lapsing into unfocussed rambling- I mean, WTF was all that Sean Hannity business? Still, Hillary looked in pretty good shape, looked well up for the fight, and projected an air of statesmanship. Donald was kinda the usual really - little of any substance. 1-0 to Hillary in this round, I reckon. She might well have repaired much of the damage done to her cause by the memorial collapse.

Still, kudos to Donald for annoying the fat-acceptance movement. :lol:

#53103

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Spike13 wrote:By the by, sitting in a blue collar Union bar in jersey.

95% of the patrons are cheering Trump.
Given Trump's history with unions that's ironic.

His building paid a lot of iron workers , elec. plumbers... Etc.

Those guys got paid even if their bosses didn't.

In his casinos,( jersey) he used all union labor.

Hillary is from one of the bastions of anti Union sentiment and a favorite daughter of Tyson foods.( big anti Union company)

#53104

The winner is who sways opinion of the sheeple.
I'm guessing Hitlery regained some of her lost flock. :ugeek:

#53105

The FA thread on Carrier seems to have rolled over and died. The FTB apologists up and disappeared fast once the great unwashed seemed unwilling to swallow their baloney.

#53106

One thing he did bring up, NAFTA/TPP are killing us.

Insane debt and we are giving the one thing we still do well away.

#53107

Dave wrote:She was a bit. I don't think she was nearly as bad a Gore was.

I'm sure she coached not to do that. Thing is my twitter is full of leftist almost jerking off over those moments(being left leaning I enjoy my echo chamber). I think if it's just left alone then it won't matter but if it starts to be a big meme or Clinton is coached to do it more because people liked it, then I can see it becoming an issue.

#53108

Has to be said, Trump missed a real zinger when the cybersecurity question came up. All he had to do was nod towards Hillary and say, 'Well she's the one who deleted 30,000 emails by - as she says - a mistake. Who do you trust on the matter?'

The orange one needs to sharpen up his game.

#53109

Tigzy wrote:Has to be said, Trump missed a real zinger when the cybersecurity question came up. All he had to do was nod towards Hillary and say, 'Well she's the one who deleted 30,000 emails by - as she says - a mistake. Who do you trust on the matter?'

The orange one needs to sharpen up his game.

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True, as well as not calling her up for only mentioning Russia, while China( who her husband was in bed with) is hacking shit left and right.

#53110

Tigzy wrote:Has to be said, Trump missed a real zinger when the cybersecurity question came up. All he had to do was nod towards Hillary and say, 'Well she's the one who deleted 30,000 emails by - as she says - a mistake. Who do you trust on the matter?'

The orange one needs to sharpen up his game.

I thought that was a big mistake on his part. I think the bigger one was when she talked about how she had stamina to be able to sit in congressional hearings for 11 hours a day. For man how has called her Crooked Hillary for the last year to let that slip up past was kinda astounding.

#53111

A Walmart bakery south of Atlanta refuses to make a "Blue Lives Matter" cake.

http://www.cbs46.com/story/33187680/wal ... ce-officer

http://www.cbs46.com/story/33232233/wom ... speaks-out

So there is this, the Confederate flag cake, the gay marriage cake, and possibly others I don't know about. Why have cake decorators decided that they are arbiters of morality and offensiveness? Take the 20 bucks or however much and make the cake. It's not like margins in a bakery are all that great.

#53112

Spike13 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Spike13 wrote:By the by, sitting in a blue collar Union bar in jersey.

95% of the patrons are cheering Trump.
Given Trump's history with unions that's ironic.
His building paid a lot of iron workers , elec. plumbers... Etc.

Those guys got paid even if their bosses didn't.

In his casinos,( jersey) he used all union labor.

Hillary is from one of the bastions of anti Union sentiment and a favorite daughter of Tyson foods.( big anti Union company)

Hadn't Trump used illegal immigrants in the building of Trump Tower?
Trump Casinos the last in Vegas to go union in that area?
I'm aware that the Clintons have been in bed with Tyson, Walmart, etc., etc....
I wouldn't have expected praise for Trump from the union crowd though. :think:

#53113

Why the fuck wouldn't Microsoft have a 4G slot in the Surface Pro 4 when their whole O365 strategy is about "access your data anywhere".

I mean really, WTF?

#53114

free thoughtpolice wrote: Hadn't Trump used illegal immigrants in the building of Trump Tower?

I think anyone that builds a lot in this country uses illegal immigrants at least in my part of the world. So to me that wouldn't be a big knock against him.

#53115

Brive1987 wrote:Why the fuck wouldn't Microsoft have a 4G slot in the Surface Pro 4 when their whole O365 strategy is about "access your data anywhere".

I mean really, WTF?

My guess would be that at least in America 4G for our PCs and tablets have never really caught on. Data cost too much.

#53116

Sunder wrote:The FA thread on Carrier seems to have rolled over and died. The FTB apologists up and disappeared fast once the great unwashed seemed unwilling to swallow their baloney.

There are two causes. First, the movement has gone fallow and the "misogyny wars" are not even close to "new news." Second, there's really nothing to defend with Carrier. PZ accused Shermer of rape. PZ accused Carrier of having received public accusations of creepy-ass behavior. And while PZ shut down his posting ability, that's not a big deal, as FTB was not his actual employer, and Dick just took the blog archive PZ sent him and started anew.

It's just so, so different from the Stollznow affair and the time is so different.

I just wish we could finally get the SSA report about Dick's harassment and how it was handled and why the founder of SSA (who is married to Dick's secondary girlfriend) is "stepping down." Can anyone ask about that?

#53117

comhcinc wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Hadn't Trump used illegal immigrants in the building of Trump Tower?
I think anyone that builds a lot in this country uses illegal immigrants at least in my part of the world. So to me that wouldn't be a big knock against him.

Union influence has been waning here over the last 40 years but even now someone using illegal immigrants on a large project, especially in an urban area would get more than a bad rep.
I think.

#53118

Mr. X, Indeed wrote:A Walmart bakery south of Atlanta refuses to make a "Blue Lives Matter" cake.

http://www.cbs46.com/story/33187680/wal ... ce-officer

http://www.cbs46.com/story/33232233/wom ... speaks-out

So there is this, the Confederate flag cake, the gay marriage cake, and possibly others I don't know about. Why have cake decorators decided that they are arbiters of morality and offensiveness? Take the 20 bucks or however much and make the cake. It's not like margins in a bakery are all that great.

http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/upload ... cepalm.gif

But don't you see? Cake bakers are the arbiters of morality and...

I don't care.

#53119

free thoughtpolice wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Hadn't Trump used illegal immigrants in the building of Trump Tower?
I think anyone that builds a lot in this country uses illegal immigrants at least in my part of the world. So to me that wouldn't be a big knock against him.
Union influence has been waning here over the last 40 years but even now someone using illegal immigrants on a large project, especially in an urban area would get more than a bad rep.
I think.

I am not disagreeing with you that it looks bad especially for someone running for president largely on anti immigration but my point is, at least in some parts of the country, that it's just par the course these days.

I wish we were dealing with a better "tell it like it is" person. Trump is getting heat for say that pregnancies negatively effect businesses. That's a fact. He is not smart enough to follow that up with some like, "and we need invest time and and effort in to making that better for employers and employees" and if he was really smart he would then throw a jab against Wal mart in there.

#53120

#53121

Here is a link to the Time poll in case you want your voice heard as well.

Or if like me you just want to vote for Trump because it's funny as fuck to do so.

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-de ... mp-survey/

#53122

Brive1987 wrote:Why the fuck wouldn't Microsoft have a 4G slot in the Surface Pro 4 when their whole O365 strategy is about "access your data anywhere".

I mean really, WTF?

I was down on tablets with SIM cards, but yeah, they come in handy.

#53123

Well, boo. I woke up at 6AM and headed to Pyt HQ to read… it was totally predictable debate.

#53124

comhcinc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Why the fuck wouldn't Microsoft have a 4G slot in the Surface Pro 4 when their whole O365 strategy is about "access your data anywhere".

I mean really, WTF?

My guess would be that at least in America 4G for our PCs and tablets have never really caught on. Data cost too much.

Really?

How much is too much?

Aren't you meant to be world leaders or something?

Local Aust Telstra mobile data plans:
http://i.imgur.com/hGKr1kf.jpg

#53125

comhcinc wrote:Here is a link to the Time poll in case you want your voice heard as well.

Or if like me you just want to vote for Trump because it's funny as fuck to do so.

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-de ... mp-survey/

Quick, before PZ unleashes his nerd to mess with the poll.

#53126

Brive1987 wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Why the fuck wouldn't Microsoft have a 4G slot in the Surface Pro 4 when their whole O365 strategy is about "access your data anywhere".

I mean really, WTF?

My guess would be that at least in America 4G for our PCs and tablets have never really caught on. Data cost too much.

Really?

How much is too much?

Aren't you meant to be world leaders or something?

Local Aust Telstra mobile data plans:
http://i.imgur.com/hGKr1kf.jpg

The way data is handled in this country is a joke. I haven't looked at the big companies in a while because I got messed up when we broke up. This is what I am dealing with now. It's a pay for what you use type of deal.

http://i.imgur.com/QpVdyiA.jpg

#53127

Brive1987 wrote:Really?

How much is too much?

Aren't you meant to be world leaders or something?

Local Aust Telstra mobile data plans:
http://i.imgur.com/hGKr1kf.jpg

That still feels pricey to me and I understand you have more buying power, but I get unlimited 3G for $20 (really unlimited, I make ~150GiB monthly using it) and the one of, pre paid card with monthly unlimited goes for $11. I use those with devices, just pay when you need your Internet access reenabled.

#53128

Dave wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I've sobered up.
Why?!? For Dog's Sake, Why?!??????

No worries, it was just a temporary phase.

#53129

sp0tlight wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Really?

How much is too much?

Aren't you meant to be world leaders or something?

Local Aust Telstra mobile data plans:
[.img]http://i.imgur.com/hGKr1kf.jpg[/img]
That still feels pricey to me and I understand you have more buying power, but I get unlimited 3G for $20 (really unlimited, I make ~150GiB monthly using it) and the one of, pre paid card with monthly unlimited goes for $11. I use those with devices, just pay when you need your Internet access reenabled.

Well it's 3G - but if service strength was good then all you can eat would be nice.

#53130

comhcinc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
comhcinc wrote:

My guess would be that at least in America 4G for our PCs and tablets have never really caught on. Data cost too much.

Really?

How much is too much?

Aren't you meant to be world leaders or something?

Local Aust Telstra mobile data plans:
[.]http://i.imgur.com/hGKr1kf.jpg[/img]
The way data is handled in this country is a joke. I haven't looked at the big companies in a while because I got messed up when we broke up. This is what I am dealing with now. It's a pay for what you use type of deal.

http://i.imgur.com/QpVdyiA.jpg

$100 for 10 gb. :think:

:naughty:

#53131

Wild Zontargs wrote:
DrokkIt wrote:
sp0tlight wrote:
Jesus, everything I read makes me so wary of getting back into dating game. I might rent a cellar and start playing DnD to complete the transformation.
Pretty much. When you are suddenly single in your 30s after a decade-long stretch the dating world is quite bizarre.
Virtually every girl I meet is heavy on the patriarchy, or already in a stable relationship.
I don't have the drive of 18 year old me anymore so quite acquiesced to the possibility that it's singletown from here on out.
Semi-related: a (self-selected, geekier etc) sample of Millennials respond to the idea of having children. Answers range from "ha ha, I can barely support myself" to "fuck that". If they're looking for partners at all and aren't single, they can't afford it. If they can afford it, they're actively turned off by the idea. Even the ones that are interested are planning on waiting so long that they're likely to need medical assistance or have complications.

At the wedding, we had the usual barrage of "now it's time for babies" from some of the guests (the ones with kids, mostly). We argued for a while that we don't want to bring a kid into the world as it is right now, it would be too cruel.

And then my mom said: "if I had to do it again, I wouldn't have kids at all".

I took it quite well, all things considered.

#53132

Service Dog wrote:
Spike13 wrote:Don't look too deep into it SD, the dating game is like that.

Just go and enjoy yourself and let happen what will.

No pressure, just be yourself.

If it's any consolation,The NY game is tougher than most
Thank you. But Im on top of the world right now. I heart NY.

http://i.imgur.com/hZ3Irpf.png

Mine is better!

#53133

deLurch wrote:
sp0tlight wrote:
Spike13 wrote:How did she ever get anywhere in the A/S movement? She's abysmal.
Skeptic's Guide to the Universe… and I admit I liked her for a while before she started to get over her head.
This is what happens when the side-kick starts to believe they are the main character.

http://i.imgur.com/6mSYFAD.jpg

#53134

Cringe… so… much…

http://cdn0.dailydot.com/cache/7e/5d/7e ... 3faf44.jpg

#53135

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: At the wedding, we had the usual barrage of "now it's time for babies" from some of the guests (the ones with kids, mostly). We argued for a while that we don't want to bring a kid into the world as it is right now, it would be too cruel.

I don't think anyone should be pushed into having kids if they don't want them but your argument is dumb. There has never been a better time in the history of humanity to live than right now.

#53136

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
At the wedding, we had the usual barrage of "now it's time for babies" from some of the guests (the ones with kids, mostly). We argued for a while that we don't want to bring a kid into the world as it is right now, it would be too cruel.

And then my mom said: "if I had to do it again, I wouldn't have kids at all".

I took it quite well, all things considered.

Yes. Let your gallic cock go wild, unleash the gallic cock!:

http://u.goal.com/411300/411335_heroa.jpg

It even rhymes with phallic.

#53137

comhcinc wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: At the wedding, we had the usual barrage of "now it's time for babies" from some of the guests (the ones with kids, mostly). We argued for a while that we don't want to bring a kid into the world as it is right now, it would be too cruel.
I don't think anyone should be pushed into having kids if they don't want them but your argument is dumb. There has never been a better time in the history of humanity to live than right now.

Truth is: we don't really want kids. The excuse was valid enough to have some of the reproduction zealots agree with us.

But we do have a trump card in that we explained raising a kid to see him/her/them mowed down by an islamist fuck in a truck would be worse than not having kids at all.

#53138

Kirbmarc wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:
Welp, I have not read much about him but one red flag, is his alleged praise for the Supreme Leader in Iran (Shia) and Daesh (Sunni) at the same time? ....
I think that from what I've read about Cetin in his specific case islam was a way to look "edgy", to distinguish himself from the "drones".

The violent messages exist in islam and muslims should definitely ask themselves some uncomfortable questions about where do they come from, but Cetin seems to have appropriated a hodge-podge of incoherent violent messages (including praising serial killers like Ted Bundy) to justify his violent acts. From what we know he wasn't in contact with any organization or muslim supremacist preacher, either in person or online. ....

Don't see many Muslims asking themselves those "uncomfortable questions". And those that do - like Simi Rahman - seem to gravitate into atheism.

Don't see that Islam is going to change its tune until Western society more or less tells them to piss on the Quran or to piss off. Couple of tweets of some relevance:

Some background on the last tweet: The Brutal Way In Which Mughals Killed This Sikh Warrior Of Punjab Will Make You Rethink Cruelty

War is, of course, a messy business at the best of times, and many cultures have gone off the deep end in the barbarism they've engaged in as a result of that. But Muslims seem to have a rather remarkable, if odious, propensity for the worst of it. A NY Times article suggests that that is largely due to the explicit "dehumanizing of the other" that is apparently intrinsic to Islam. Delenda est, indeed.

#53139

jet_lagg wrote:10 to 1 against. Since I'm probably going to lose I've got to make it interesting :p

And yes, a jury of pitters. Not that it's likely to come to that.

I'll take 5s across all the debates.

#53140

paddybrown wrote:Sye Ten's at it again...

I know Sye ten Atheist snatched his name from Sye ten Bruggencate, but I'm probably the last man in the world to get the real pun of 'Sye ten' (read it out loud).

Then it dawned on me that perhaps ten Bruggencate also is a parody... of himself.

#53141

Phil and Ali, belated congradulations on your French Polishing.

Went to a cousin's daughter's wedding the other day where the splicing was done under an arch of two tractors with the buckets banged together. Good times.

#53142

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:That's some scary shit. Squint.

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5879430E

Holy crap, so that's why the French call it all-cool.

Are you still married now you've discovered this?

#53143

feathers wrote:
Are you still married now you've discovered this?

Well, yes. Obviously, I don't need to squint to see the beauty.

(I know Ali reads here sometimes)

#53144

Sunder wrote:In short, Becky doesn't even take care of the cash cow she milks for a living. PETA would probably picket her apartment if they ever saw how it's being treated.

Did you get the episode where Becca wanted to buy a dog... to keep her two cats in her small apartment company?

#53145

Steersman wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:And my TL will not be denied.

[.img]http://i.imgur.com/IM8h8Uy.jpg[/img]
And I'm the one accused of "losing it" - of being, one assumes, obsessive? Sheesh. ;-)

Particularly when one might reasonably argue that the fate of Western Civilization - such as it is - more likely hinges on my cause célèbre - Islam - than on yours - the sexual peccadillos of Carrier. Although I'll concede that your topic is somewhat more amusing and entertaining.

Where you see obsession, I see a workman like commitment to detail.

#53146

deLurch wrote:Yes, seriously. One of the previous bonus videos was of her apologizing for not having the full set of videos ready this month because her boyfriend was busy with his real work. But she was going to stick by her standards and not put out videos she was fully happy with so she was just going to have to wait.

You would think that since this is her bread and butter, and she has nothing else to do all day, that she would learn how to do the video editing herself, or pony up the cash to have someone else do it.

The real irony being that this highly feminist 'Skepchick' woman-in-tech is totally dependent on a man for even the least of technical chores.

I wonder, does Adam also do her make-up?

#53147

Some parents worry their teenage sons may spend their money on drugs and booze.

Me? My concern is that he proudly came home with a "Norwegian verb wheel"

http://i.imgur.com/I9SBowK.jpg

#53148

Brive1987 wrote:Some parents worry their teenage sons may spend their money on drugs and booze.

Me? My concern is that he proudly came home with a "Norwegian verb wheel"

http://i.imgur.com/I9SBowK.jpg

Probably better than a Norwegian Cheese Wheel, which at first glance is what I thought it was. :doh:

#53149

Brive1987 wrote:Some parents worry their teenage sons may spend their money on drugs and booze.

Me? My concern is that he proudly came home with a "Norwegian verb wheel"

[img.]http://i.imgur.com/I9SBowK.jpg[/img]

I'm sure he'll be able to do something with it.

#53150

AndrewV69 wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
Cetin seems to be a generally maladjusted individual who latched on everything that made him "edgy" and stand out from the "mainstream" (from serial killers to Iran to ISIS), like Harris and Klebold at Columbine. Sadly islam can easily be fertile ground for justfications of violence that are appealing to maladjusted idiots.
Ah, the MSM excuse of "mental illness" or "maladjusted".

No. The main problem is islam. That it attracts nutcases is not in anyway an excuse for that disgusting ideology. In fact, it should be its main definition (it's a feature, not a bug). I can accept that some muslims are born and raised into that putrid fuckfest, but converts and radicals have no fucking excuses. ....
Welp, I have not read much about him but one red flag, is his alleged praise for the Supreme Leader in Iran (Shia) and Daesh (Sunni) at the same time?
<snip>

He is either very well informed and smart, or pretty stupid and ignorant about Islam as well as many other things.

I'd kind of go with the latter. But in some related news, I seem to recollect having a twitter conversation with you some time back where you had argued, if I'm not mistaken, that Muslim women were ok with the burka, and I had argued that that didn't seem likely. Can't find the relevant tweet - maybe that was one of the ones you deleted recently - and while this tweet refers to male guardianship, I kind of see it as along the same line, and evidence that "the times they are 'a changin", even in moral backwaters like Saudi Arabia:

#53151

Brive1987 wrote:Some parents worry their teenage sons may spend their money on drugs and booze.

Me? My concern is that he proudly came home with a "Norwegian verb wheel"

http://i.imgur.com/I9SBowK.jpg

That's bare bra.

#53152

Brive1987 wrote:
Steersman wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:And my TL will not be denied.

[.img]http://i.imgur.com/IM8h8Uy.jpg[/img]
And I'm the one accused of "losing it" - of being, one assumes, obsessive? Sheesh. ;-)

Particularly when one might reasonably argue that the fate of Western Civilization - such as it is - more likely hinges on my cause célèbre - Islam - than on yours - the sexual peccadillos of Carrier. Although I'll concede that your topic is somewhat more amusing and entertaining.
Where you see obsession, I see a workman like commitment to detail.

Fine; go big; fill your boots. All very commendable to have such a commitment. But I kind of think you're a better man than that, Gunga Din, to be wasting so much time and effort on such picayune details.

#53153

Steersman wrote: All very commendable to have such a commitment. But I kind of think you're a better man than that, Gunga Din, to be wasting so much time and effort on such picayune details.

:?

http://www.thethingswesay.com/img/4927.jpg

#53154

Brive1987 wrote:
Steersman wrote: All very commendable to have such a commitment. But I kind of think you're a better man than that, Gunga Din, to be wasting so much time and effort on such picayune details.
:?

http://www.thethingswesay.com/img/4927.jpg

Ok - de gustibus and all that. But Carrier seems like pretty small potatoes who largely doesn't amount to a can of beans, much less a hill of them. Kind of think it's wise to tailor one's efforts to the magnitude and importance of the task.

#53155

Steersman wrote: I'd kind of go with the latter. But in some related news, I seem to recollect having a twitter conversation with you some time back where you had argued, if I'm not mistaken, that Muslim women were ok with the burka, and I had argued that that didn't seem likely. Can't find the relevant tweet - maybe that was one of the ones you deleted recently - and while this tweet refers to male guardianship, I kind of see it as along the same line, and evidence that "the times they are 'a changin", even in moral backwaters like Saudi Arabia:

Hopefully so. By the way, Steers, don't pieces of news like this show that change is possible (if slow, non-linear and painful) even in Muslim communities?

#53156

If archaeology students can’t cope with ‘scary bones’, they really are doomed

Just when you thought the trigger-warning trend on campus couldn’t get any more bonkers it’s reported that archaeology students are being allowed to dodge discussions of ‘traumatic’ historic events. Yes, students whose entire academic mission is to dig up bones, pore over old stuff and work out what the hell mankind was doing / thinking a thousand-odd years ago are being warned that such excavations can uncover ‘disturbing’ stuff that might ‘traumatise’ them because ‘bones can be scary’. So they should feel free to nip out of class if it gets too much. Archaeology students being told archaeology is a scary pursuit — I think we’ve reached peak campus madness.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/ar ... ly-doomed/

#53157

The knives are out on facebook.

Dana Hunter shared Heina Dadabhoy's post.
9 hrs ·
Richard Carrier's actions mean I cannot keep him or people who support him in my circles. I'm going to lose at least one person whose viewpoints I value and whose Facebook friendship has meant a lot. But I will not run the risk of him using intimates who are mutuals with me to get to the people he's trying to sue.
If you're close to him, you have some research to do and some choices to make. I'll give you a couple of days. If you're still friends with us both at the end of that time, I'm sorry, but you will be blocked.

Heina Dadabhoy
16 hrs ·
Richard Carrier isn't suing me personally but he did find it appropriate to include a private email exchange he and I had as part of his legal case as well as drag my name into something he wrote, which is the first and only public declaration of what I allegedly feel about and have supposedly said about him. I guess hearsay is fine for him but not for others.

He made it me and mine vs. him, so that's where I am forced to be. If you are friends with him or anyone who is supporting his legal actions (not just FB friends but good and a-ok with them), you've taken a stand against my privacy, the existence of a blog network I helped to start, and my right to both feel and express discomfort when someone behaves uncomfortably towards me, whether I did so or not. Whatever you believe about the allegations on either side, Richard Carrier believes he has a successful legal case and it is a fact that if he succeeds as he believes he will, it will not bode well for me or many people for whom I deeply care.

Accordingly, for my own protection, I will be deleting and blocking people in the coming week who are connected to him and/or people in his inner circle based on my own discretion as well as my level of familiarity with the person in question. Anyone I don't know well who is Facebook friends with him and/or his people will also be removed and possibly blocked, depending. This warning will be reposted daily at different times and will Reacted to by me for all possible visibility.

This is not a space for debate or speculation about this matter and will be moderated with all harshness.

ETA I will not necessarily be blocking or even deleting all mutuals. There will be a lot of judgment calls here, but my standards will be less lenient than they have been in other cases in the past.

#53158

Thank goodness I deleted my facebook profile...

... I mean forget I said anything.

#53159

Mr. X, Indeed wrote:A Walmart bakery south of Atlanta refuses to make a "Blue Lives Matter" cake.

http://www.cbs46.com/story/33187680/wal ... ce-officer

http://www.cbs46.com/story/33232233/wom ... speaks-out

So there is this, the Confederate flag cake, the gay marriage cake, and possibly others I don't know about. Why have cake decorators decided that they are arbiters of morality and offensiveness? Take the 20 bucks or however much and make the cake. It's not like margins in a bakery are all that great.

That's easy, but it takes two factors to explain it.

-Nobody bakes their own cakes anymore. Once you've won the fight with the victoria sponge, and made your own icing from scratch, the thought of adding various food colours and trying to do the confederate flag just isn't going to happen. Furthermore, since no one knows what a real sponge cake is supposed to taste like they tolerate the garbage sold them by Walmart.
-The invention of the cake printer and edible inks. Available on Amazon for <$200. Designs that would have been impossible or uneconomic print out and are applied to the cake.

The fact that this all leads to the cake department of Walmart providing our moral compass is possibly the best argument for the existence of god, as it could only be imagined by a deity who really wanted to screw us up.

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Ever had Baked Alaska? Or is it now cultural appropriation?