The Refuge of the Toads

#62701

Can we go back to talking about Brives prostate exam - I need something to cleanse the palate.

#62702

comhcinc wrote:I don't wish Watson any ill will. I honestly hope she isn't having to deal with a suck ass lose her place messy break up.

Really I know she helped break up the party but think about that. If Watson was able to do it the party wasn't very sound to begin with.

I agree. The fact that the skeptic movement got so thoroughly sucked into this, and especially the convention crowd with so few people fighting back really shows how poor their training and education in critical thinking was.

It was all good in debunking ghosts and bigfoot, but throw in a popular political ideology the screams think of the women, and everyone wilted.

#62703

deLurch wrote:I agree. The fact that the skeptic movement got so thoroughly sucked into this, and especially the convention crowd with so few people fighting back really shows how poor their training and education in critical thinking was.

It was all good in debunking ghosts and bigfoot, but throw in a popular political ideology the screams think of the women, and everyone wilted.

Most atheists and skeptics are leftists in the US. The Religiosi Right is a natural enemy. And most leftists have a morality based mainly on Care rather than on Freedom. It's easy to trick leftists into abandoning reason if you portray yourself as a victim of the Privileged.

#62704

deLurch wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I don't wish Watson any ill will. I honestly hope she isn't having to deal with a suck ass lose her place messy break up.

Really I know she helped break up the party but think about that. If Watson was able to do it the party wasn't very sound to begin with.
I agree. The fact that the skeptic movement got so thoroughly sucked into this, and especially the convention crowd with so few people fighting back really shows how poor their training and education in critical thinking was.

It was all good in debunking ghosts and bigfoot, but throw in a popular political ideology the screams think of the women, and everyone wilted.

A net positive from all this is that it has allowed the fake skeptics to have a bright light shined on them for future ignoring. Now we roughly know who the clowns are.

#62705

katamari Damassi wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:By the way there's a lot of ableism in the comments. The Orbitters will be furious!
The Orbitters always struck me as those kids who were envious of the 10 year-old in the helmet and stroller, because he got to jump to the head of the line at Space Mountain.

I think that's close to a BCE ;)

#62706

Really? wrote:http://cdn.someecards.com/posts/insert-nuoAvl.jpg

Please tell me that's a mistake. One on the left is her younger sister, or so. Please?

#62707

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Gendered pronouns:

Sure, go ahead, change them or get rid of them altogether, if it makes the little kids happy.

A few years later, the same kids start complaining about the use of gendered pronouns in the works of Rabelais, Voltaire, Rimbaud, Vernes, Hugo... You understand, it's oppressive, micro aggression, violence, erasure of their lived identities.

And at this point, fuck them and all the bastards who said "sure, go ahead" in the first place.

It's like you people don't know how these fuckers work.

Cause the powers that be are too lazy or pussy to tell them to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up until they have something intelligent to say.

#62708

Kirbmarc wrote:
deLurch wrote:I agree. The fact that the skeptic movement got so thoroughly sucked into this, and especially the convention crowd with so few people fighting back really shows how poor their training and education in critical thinking was.

It was all good in debunking ghosts and bigfoot, but throw in a popular political ideology the screams think of the women, and everyone wilted.
Most atheists and skeptics are leftists in the US. The Religiosi Right is a natural enemy. And most leftists have a morality based mainly on Care rather than on Freedom. It's easy to trick leftists into abandoning reason if you portray yourself as a victim of the Privileged.

Any professional organisation at the time - would have taken claims of sexism and outright sexual assault quite seriously.

Where the nuance comes in is in whether the skeptic conferences are social or profession events, and what actually qualifies as 'harassment'.

For instance it would be interesting to see the code of conduct that allows 'Hugs against Anti-Vax' and Bordello Parties - but does not allow people to initiate conversations in certain enclosed spaces.

Or that allows criticism of (some) religions - but not of political or social ideologies.

#62709

pro-boxing-fan wrote:Btw pit, i finally started working today. In fact, im currently working. Or at least i should be.

Good on ya, glad it didn't turn out to be bust! :dance: :clap:

#62710

pro-boxing-fan wrote:Btw pit, i finally started working today. In fact, im currently working. Or at least i should be.

That's good to hear.

I understand that Brive is in a similar situation.

#62711

Guest_5631c4c9 wrote:Mythbusters have hired Adam

BTW: Had I got any in with Mythbusters (or now, Tested) crowd I would work my ass off to get any skills required to participate. Not only are they superbly cool guys but the job prospects from co-creating with them alone are worth it.

I have no fucking clue how one does not capitalize on such backstage pass.

#62712

comhcinc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I don't wish Watson any ill will. I honestly hope she isn't having to deal with a suck ass lose her place messy break up.

Really I know she helped break up the party but think about that. If Watson was able to do it the party wasn't very sound to begin with. I hope she keeps making her stupid little vlogs and smokes a lot of pot (which is now legal in Cali too I believe) and has a generally happy life.

I know I am awful.
Let us spare some pity for her boyfriend. Whatever they have or had, it didn't seem like love. It's really hard to live with a narcissist, so he might need the escape. If indeed they are parting ways.
How do we know what they have/had? How can you make that judgment call? I love this place and most of your people but statements like this just drive me crazy.

I don't think there is a person here that actually knows what is happening in Watson's life. Everyone just make a bunch of guesses based on some twitter post and maybe a vlog or two. It's really fucking sad.

I mean you called her a narcissist yet there is a bunch of people here that go out of their way to look at everything she puts out and then make a comment about it. Are you really a narcissist if a bunch of people really are talking about you all the time?

It's a chicken or the egg kind of thing, do we talk about her because she's a narcissist or is she a narcissist because we talk about her?

Looking at bribes timeline I think The narcissism came first.

#62713

I still think that politics played a huge role. PZ was a harsh critic of islam when it wasn't poltically inconvenienti for a leftists to say bad things about the "religion of POCs" that the Evil Republicans could exploit.

The Rift happened around the time of the start of the second Obama term, which was when the GOP was said to be fighting a war on women and PoCs (including muslims).

The atheists/skeptics were seen as a way to counter the rhetoric of the Religious Right (not without reason). The Rift was simply a further attempt to politicize organized atheism.

#62714

AndrewV69 wrote:She was briefly married to Sid at one point.

I only vaguely recall that there was something behind her parting ways with Sid. But the details, or even generally what it was? I dunno.

I had to look up Sid & ~~Nancy~~ Watson and came across this gem:

TAM 7 had a hell of a line-up, including Bill Prady, the creative force behind juggernaut sitcom The Big Bang Theory; Jennifer Ouellette, a celebrated science journalist who regularly appears in the pages of Discover Magazine and the Wall Street Journal; Adam Savage, the beating heart of Mythbusters; actor Steven Bauer, he of Don Eladio in Breaking Bad fame; and Ray Hyman, psychology professor extraordinaire, pseudoscience bitch-slapper, and certified OG of the skeptic movement.

But ask ANYONE about TAM 7 and what they remember from that weekend, and without a moment’s hesitation they’ll tell you it was the impromptu wedding of Rebecca Watson and Sid Rodrigues, a London-based skeptic who enjoyed a fleeting moment of fame during his marriage to Watson.

Video of Savage’s talk exists on the web, and a search turns up a post-TAM interview with Hyman. But Bill Prady’s speech is notably absent from popular video sites like Youtube, Ouellette’s talk barely registered a blip on the radar, and no one knows who Bauer is. By contrast, Youtube and co. have no less than seven vids of the Watson-Rodrigues marriage, SGU devoted a two-episode special to the news, and the skeptic blogosphere nearly broke the internet with Miley Cyrus-size traffic numbers on posts about the nuptials.

Author somewhat suggests this triggered Watson's narcissus for the years to come.

#62715

Brive1987 wrote:I'm having a bum snake and a throat snake procedure tomorrow. I hope they wash 'em between sessions.

The bum snake is easier. At least you gas "gas and air" and sedation available. Well, should do.
:hankey:

#62716

sp0tlight wrote:
Guest_5631c4c9 wrote:Mythbusters have hired Adam
BTW: Had I got any in with Mythbusters (or now, Tested) crowd I would work my ass off to get any skills required to participate. Not only are they superbly cool guys but the job prospects from co-creating with them alone are worth it.

I have no fucking clue how one does not capitalize on such backstage pass.

Me neither. The wasted opportunity is staggering.

Maybe it has something to do with ordinary workdays being sobriety marathons.

http://imgur.com/brZSeVz.jpg

#62717

Brive1987 wrote:And so it starts.

I'm thinking I should live tweet the evening.

http://i.imgur.com/8Pq2Yf2.jpg

Are you sure Richard Carrier hasn't been near your house.....

:lol:

#62718

Indeed I'd wager that the reason why SJWs acquired sociale power out of academia and why they were so nasty and authoritarian was because a significant part of the Democratic party had gone full SJW (and they rallied around Hillary Clinton in 2016).

The same thing is happening now with Trump and Breitbart/the New Conservative/Infowars.

#62719

CommanderTuvok wrote:http://i.imgur.com/8Pq2Yf2.jpg

Are you sure Richard Carrier hasn't been near your house.....

This is where Brive spewed out the entire dose and had to start all over again.

#62720

comhcinc wrote:I don't care about the shops one way or the other by themselves. Nor am I defending her.

I am saying that we came that we deal in facts and we are the rational ones and yet some here constant come up with conclusions based off nothing but a glimpse of something on social media and feel feels.

Are we not skeptics?

We're just 'taking the piss, like the time a year or so ago myself and a couple of others tried to start up the meme that Pizzy was into poopy porn based off of some comments of his. It's all just some spitballing fun.
No one is taking it at all seriously, but we can dream of just desserts and karma like punishments.

#62721

If Watson was of a mind to sue someone for defamation (ie reducing her future earning potential) - I would suggest that she look a little closer to home before blaming the slymepit.

#62722

Brive1987 wrote:
Wasn't there a timeline somewhere that demonstrated that she had probably hooked up with Adam at a Con just before the breakup and rapid rebound?

____________

Com ...... triggering intensifies ..... ? :mrgreen:

Yes. She was unhappy in England and was cheating on Sid with Adam as near as anyone has been able to piece it together. She was still married to Sid, if remember right, when she shacked up with Adam.

#62723

MarcusAu wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I can't sleep but I need sweet darkness and I have discovered that Youtube is great for old audio books.

[youtube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzFqmcWocKM[/youtube]
90's (or 80's) Flashback.

There is now a 'Dirk Gently' TV series

[youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TNXaCBAjpo[/youtube]

Well there is a series by Max Landis that is interesting and just got picked up for a second season but it Dirk Gently. He is just using the name. As the show takes nothing from the books at all.

#62724

Spike13 wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I don't care about the shops one way or the other by themselves. Nor am I defending her.

I am saying that we came that we deal in facts and we are the rational ones and yet some here constant come up with conclusions based off nothing but a glimpse of something on social media and feel feels.

Are we not skeptics?
We're just 'taking the piss, like the time a year or so ago myself and a couple of others tried to start up the meme that Pizzy was into poopy porn based off of some comments of his. It's all just some spitballing fun.
No one is taking it at all seriously, but we can dream of just desserts and karma like punishments.

I am not sure everyone is just taking the piss. It seems quite a number of people here are very serious in wanting bad things to happen to people they don't like.

But if all you have to do to be free to say what you want without anyone being allowed to take issue with it then I am just taking the piss too I guess.

#62725

feathers wrote:
Really? wrote:http://cdn.someecards.com/posts/insert-nuoAvl.jpg
Please tell me that's a mistake. One on the left is her younger sister, or so. Please?

Might well be true. SJWism really screws you up:

1926:
http://i.imgur.com/hU3soZU.png

2016:
http://i.imgur.com/RimR6Dw.png

#62726

Tribble wrote: Yes. She was unhappy in England and was cheating on Sid with Adam as near as anyone has been able to piece it together. She was still married to Sid, if remember right, when she shacked up with Adam.

This is the sort of thing you should be ashamed of yourself for knowing.

#62727

comhcinc wrote:
I am not sure everyone is just taking the piss. It seems quite a number of people here are very serious in wanting bad things to happen to people they don't like.

But if all you have to do to be free to say what you want without anyone being allowed to take issue with it then I am just taking the piss too I guess.

I pray for my enemies - I pray they go to Hell.

King James Bible wrote: Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

#62728

While I don't believe in karma per se, I do manage to enjoy a it a little when karma-like occurrences happen to people that are behaving badly. If this is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

#62729

Top o' the page, ma!

#62730

feathers wrote:
Really? wrote:[limg]http://cdn.someecards.com/posts/insert-nuoAvl.jpg[/limg]
Please tell me that's a mistake. One on the left is her younger sister, or so. Please?

It's real. She even blogged about it on Jezebel: http://jezebel.com/when-your-fat-pic-go ... 1749947791

#62731

comhcinc wrote:Foreigners are weird.

So Georgia finally seceded from the Union ?

#62732

MarcusAu wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
I am not sure everyone is just taking the piss. It seems quite a number of people here are very serious in wanting bad things to happen to people they don't like.

But if all you have to do to be free to say what you want without anyone being allowed to take issue with it then I am just taking the piss too I guess.
I pray for my enemies - I pray they go to Hell.

King James Bible wrote: Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Lol I like the show a lot but it isn't Dirk Gently. After American Ultra (which Landis wrote) bombed he went off on this tear about not being able to create original IPs. Here is a good interview he did.

I really do think he came up with a good idea and looked around for something he could paste on top of it. The timing is right. I think he is trying to bill a name for himself doing this kind of stuff so he can push his own stuff.

#62733

http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/23/pensioner ... to=twitter

#62734

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:While I don't believe in karma per se, I do manage to enjoy a it a little when karma-like occurrences happen to people that are behaving badly. If this is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

Karma of course being something that happens to you in life based on your behavior in a precious life.

Seems a lot like original sin.

A rose by any other name something something something

#62735

Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Foreigners are weird.
So Georgia finally seceded from the Union ?

Yes, Georgia is no longer part of the Soviet Union. :twatson:

Read more history please.

#62736

feathers wrote:
Really? wrote:http://cdn.someecards.com/posts/insert-nuoAvl.jpg
Please tell me that's a mistake. One on the left is her younger sister, or so. Please?

Who is that?

#62737

dog puke wrote:
Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Foreigners are weird.
So Georgia finally seceded from the Union ?
Yes, Georgia is no longer part of the Soviet Union. :twatson:

Read more history please.

Read more history? No way. Trolling Comstink is much more entertaining

#62738

comhcinc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:While I don't believe in karma per se, I do manage to enjoy a it a little when karma-like occurrences happen to people that are behaving badly. If this is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

Karma of course being something that happens to you in life based on your behavior in a precious life.

Seems a lot like original sin.

A rose by any other name something something something

Don't dissemble or be disengenuous, my meaning was perfectly clear. I was referring to the popular notion of karma, not the one espoused in Hiduism or Buddhism. The idea that one will be punished for actions in this lifetime.

#62739

Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:
dog puke wrote:
Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:snip

So Georgia finally seceded from the Union ?
Yes, Georgia is no longer part of the Soviet Union. :twatson:

Read more history please.
Read more history? No way. Trolling Comstink is much more entertaining

Yet he ignores you and you fail in every other aspect of trolling. I'm done with that shit.

#62740

ROBOKiTTY wrote:
feathers wrote:
Really? wrote:[limg]http://cdn.someecards.com/posts/insert-nuoAvl.jpg[/limg]
Please tell me that's a mistake. One on the left is her younger sister, or so. Please?
It's real. She even blogged about it on Jezebel: http://jezebel.com/when-your-fat-pic-go ... 1749947791

Welcome back.

#62741

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:While I don't believe in karma per se, I do manage to enjoy a it a little when karma-like occurrences happen to people that are behaving badly. If this is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

Karma of course being something that happens to you in life based on your behavior in a precious life.

Seems a lot like original sin.

A rose by any other name something something something
Don't dissemble or be disengenuous, my meaning was perfectly clear. I was referring to the popular notion of karma, not the one espoused in Hiduism or Buddhism. The idea that one will be punished for actions in this lifetime.

Your meaning is perfectly clear. You think people should be punished for I guess ever right? for something they did in the past that you do not like. It doesn't matter whether you know the person or not, or even if you were involved in something or not.

Not that it matters because I am taking the piss and you don't care if you are wrong.

#62742

ROBOKiTTY wrote:
feathers wrote:
Really? wrote:[limg]http://cdn.someecards.com/posts/insert-nuoAvl.jpg[/limg]
Please tell me that's a mistake. One on the left is her younger sister, or so. Please?
It's real. She even blogged about it on Jezebel: http://jezebel.com/when-your-fat-pic-go ... 1749947791

To be fair, she was a pretty good sport about it.

#62743

dog puke wrote:
Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Foreigners are weird.
So Georgia finally seceded from the Union ?
Yes, Georgia is no longer part of the Soviet Union. :twatson:

Read more history please.

You mean there is a Georgia in the Southern US AND another one in Asia? Wow, I never knowed that.

I guess that Eduard Chevy-Nazi guy wasn't a Confederate after all?

And why READ? According to Commie, you can watch Youtube videos and larn everything you need to know.

For instance, I watched THIS Youtuve video, and larnt everything I ever needed to know about World Geography:

#62744

Not caught up.so I may have been ninjaed, but our buddy PZ is in tbe news.
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/30085/

#62745

comhcinc wrote:
Your meaning is perfectly clear. You think people should be punished for I guess ever right? for something they did in the past that you do not like. It doesn't matter whether you know the person or not, or even if you were involved in something or not.

Not that it matters because I am taking the piss and you don't care if you are wrong.

Yes, people should be held accountable for their past mistakes, if they never acknowledge them. Once they do own their mistakes, then we can talk.

If tomorrow Myers or Watson or even, Chad Forbids, Zvan acknowledge their fuck-ups and come clean, I'll be more than happy to go along. For now, that's not the case.

#62746

The Yeti wrote:Not caught up.so I may have been ninjaed, but our buddy PZ is in tbe news.
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/30085/

Ok, forget the Com/Watson romance. This is way better.

#62747

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Not to be disagreeable, but I have to wonder how much courage the rest of the baboons would have found without Watson leading the charge. I don't know if elevatorgate was the shot heard round the world, with the powderkeg already primed, or if she really did embolden PZ and other atheists of relatively high profile to drag their sorry ideology into the movement. PZ does not strike me as a man courageous enough to stand up to Dawkins on his own. YMMV.

The movement may have been doomed in any case, but its fractious demise might have been instead any easier death if certain people hadn't coveted attention and leadership they didn't deserve. We will never know for certain.

I agree. Watson's toxicity wasn't just isolated to ElevatorGate, especially once it became clear that ElevatorGatemight cost her a lot of her thirsty male fanbase.. Luckily, there was this nascent social justice movement that she could pivot to and so she found a way to keep the spotlight on her while gambling on SJW atheism becoming the dominant paradigm.

The reason I think this is her motivation is this: Whenever she had the opportunity to do so, she chummed the water. If she had a chance to be controversial and divisive, she took it and I can't think of any point where she indicated that things had gone too far or that there should be some attempt at understanding. Instead, she made it clear that it was the SJW way or the highway in the most divisive way possible ("liberal atheists who stay silent are worse than rape threats"). As soon as Dawkins "dear Muslima'd" she went after him with enthusiasm and then harped on about it for years, whereas I don't think he ever mentioned her again in public.

I like the Princip analogy as far as it goes, in that the conditions were such that one event could become the epicenter of a major war,, but in Watson's case it's as if Princip was not put on RT but rather was enthusiastically encouraged to assassinate more people.

I'm sure there are other contributing factors to her hubris. I don't deny that she was probably a bit taken aback by some of the hostility she got, and she certainly parleyed it into sympathy points. I also think she was buoyed up on a wave of approval from FTB bloggers and other sympathetic groups and individuals,, she just failed to understand that not many people like to be told "you are either with us or against us", particularly not when they have other options.. I imagine that applies doubly so for many atheists, who tend towards the contrarian fucker axis.

#62748

ROBOKiTTY wrote:
feathers wrote:
Really? wrote:[limg]http://cdn.someecards.com/posts/insert-nuoAvl.jpg[/limg]
Please tell me that's a mistake. One on the left is her younger sister, or so. Please?
It's real. She even blogged about it on Jezebel: http://jezebel.com/when-your-fat-pic-go ... 1749947791

:o I've awoken the Robokitty from their eternal slumber!

The picture on the left—me, as a skinny girl—is taken from my high school yearbook. It doesn’t exist on social media, or it didn’t until someone I went to school with took a grainy, washed-out cell phone pic to post on Imgur. It’s labeled “2009,” but it was actually taken in 2007. I had just turned 16 and was entering my junior year.
...
I think I look pretty good in that “after” picture, the one on the right where I am very fat. It’s from when my now-husband and I announced our engagement in June 2014, and it was taken on a MacBook near the best source of light in our shitty Chicago apartment. I think of my lipstick, dark red and painstakingly painted, as a moment of perfection frozen in time.

I'll take the excuse of the bad photographic circumstances then, although I still think she looks like the Countess Dracula Volumina after a quick nightly bite. And she's only twenty-fourish there.

#62749

Re: Akira, nerdwriter is a pretty decent YouTube channel with movie analysis. Here's one on Akira and light.

#62750

feathers wrote:snip
:o I've awoken the Robokitty from their eternal slumber!

The picture on the left—me, as a skinny girl—is taken from my high school yearbook. It doesn’t exist on social media, or it didn’t until someone I went to school with took a grainy, washed-out cell phone pic to post on Imgur. It’s labeled “2009,” but it was actually taken in 2007. I had just turned 16 and was entering my junior year.
...
I think I look pretty good in that “after” picture, the one on the right where I am very fat. It’s from when my now-husband and I announced our engagement in June 2014, and it was taken on a MacBook near the best source of light in our shitty Chicago apartment. I think of my lipstick, dark red and painstakingly painted, as a moment of perfection frozen in time.
I'll take the excuse of the bad photographic circumstances then, although I still think she looks like the Countess Dracula Volumina after a quick nightly bite. And she's only twenty-fourish there.

Sadly she manages to miss the connection that being a SJW and espousing the "fine as we are" slacktavism may have contributed to her unhealthy weight gain. It entirely misses the point that you don't reshape reality with words so that you never need exert or improve yourself. Just saying you're cute or attractive doesn't make it so, even with the magic powers of feminism.

#62751

Going by your icon - it looks like you would suggest a high protein diet.

#62752

MarcusAu wrote:Going by your icon - it looks like you would suggest a high protein diet.

Indeed. While I don't always eat children, when I do, they're delicious.

#62753

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:Going by your icon - it looks like you would suggest a high protein diet.
Indeed. While I don't always eat children, when I do, they're delicious.

They're not much of a meal by SJW standards.

#62754

AndrewV69 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Sunder wrote:Okay, openly declaring students at your institution to be "racists and neo-Nazis" has to be actionable in some form.
You would think so, wouldn't you? Wonderful how people are getting so very free with the Nazi label. The devaluation of racist and Nazi leads me to wonder what they will resort to next as those terms become increasingly diluted and worthless.
Devalued to the point where some people are now not embarrassed in the least, but gleefully engage in trolling. For example, read this from CBS, D.C. restaurant apologizes for hosting alt-right group, diners who performed Nazi salute

You want to call us Nazis? We will give you Nazis!
http://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/ ... tright.jpg

Oh and racist?
“The word racist doesn’t have any meaning anymore,” he said. “It’s basically calling me a mean old guy.”
Also, till now I have never heard of the National Policy Institute but now that CBS and other members of the MSM have promoted it you better believe I am going to check it out. I imagine that lots of other people who also have never heard of them will be too.

This was a good article. http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/yo ... ying-wolf/

I still think voting Trump was unforgiveable, but you'd have to be retarded to think that everyone that did so was racist. I'm not even persuaded Trump is racist, dismal a person as he is in other respects.

#62755

I don't see the point in talking about RW, she's irrelevant and growing more so, and even at the time... I think the schism would have happened without her. It happened in every other community without her and I can't see why ours would be any different.

#62756

Ape+lust wrote:Listen to the Commander.

http://imgur.com/HJmjUd1.png

Is that when her patreon really took off?

#62757

rayshul wrote:I don't see the point in talking about RW, she's irrelevant and growing more so, and even at the time... I think the schism would have happened without her. It happened in every other community without her and I can't see why ours would be any different.

It might have resisted more, as did metal music. Other forms of music have resisted with mixed results. Certainly PZ was the biggest name to go SJW, and I don't think he would have done it without Watson.

The infections tend to be smaller and more manageable if no big names or leaders attatch themselves. Certainly the atheist infection has largely burnt out with the increasing irrelevance of the so-called leaders. It just took much of the enthusiasm and life with it.

#62758

free thoughtpolice wrote:I kind of remember...

http://i.imgur.com/7KhcbqA.jpg

#62759

MarcusAu wrote:There is now a 'Dirk Gently' TV series

I've been enjoying that, unlike the book.

#62760

I don't have a problem with people talking, joking - and even saying nasty things about others . If that's what they are feeling it's better to have such things out in the open. And as per Voltaire, it certainly highlights who the protected classes are that cannot (or can only in moderation) be criticised. (It's good to work out exactly where the sacred cows are located).

I would object if it was being taken to another level - ie actively spreading rumours, or trying to get someone fired.

The distinction is sometimes a bit fuzzy - but most of the time the slymepit seems to get it right.