The Refuge of the Toads

#64801

What happened to Matt? Anybody see him on Patheos?

#64802

ROBOKiTTY wrote:snip
"Nuh-uh, he started it first!" is not even an acceptable argument on the kindergarten playground, especially if you used that excuse to hit a bunch of unrelated people.

It's not?!? No wonder those parents were screaming. Guess I have some apologies to make.

#64803

Shots fired between someone who has done a great deal of good in the movement and someone who has done none.

#64804

If ever there was a Twitter match made in heaven, it's @DanielleMuscato and #NotNormal.

#64805

Really? wrote:Shots fired between someone who has done a great deal of good in the movement and someone who has done none.

Let's see. Trust fund plus $460/month via patreon.
https://www.patreon.com/OpheliaBenson

I was just wondering how she was doing financially.

#64806

In 2004, Susan Faludi, the journalist and author best known for her 1991 book “Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women,” received an email from her estranged father, who had returned to his native Hungary. “I’ve got some interesting news for you,” the email said. “I have decided that I have had enough of impersonating a macho aggressive man that I have never been inside.” Attached was a series of photographs, including one taken in the Thai hospital where her father had just undergone gender reassignment surgery. It was signed “Love from your parent, Stefánie.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/19/bo ... 0&referer=

#64807

deLurch wrote:
I was just wondering how she was doing financially.

Not that its much, and no idea how much shes paid in over the years, but she is also eligible for Social Security.

#64808

Dave wrote:
deLurch wrote:
I was just wondering how she was doing financially.
Not that its much, and no idea how much shes paid in over the years, but she is also eligible for Social Security.

And a bus pass.

#64809

MarcusAu wrote:I was referring to Mel Gibson.

Oh.

[youtube][/youtube]

#64810

Shatterface wrote:
Dave wrote:
deLurch wrote:
I was just wondering how she was doing financially.
Not that its much, and no idea how much shes paid in over the years, but she is also eligible for Social Security.
And a bus pass.

Bus stop rat bag, ha ha charade you are.
You fucked up old hag, ha ha charade you are.
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass.
You're nearly a good laugh,
Almost worth a quick grin.
You like the feel of steel,
You're hot stuff with a hatpin,
And good fun with a hand gun.
You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

#64811

free thoughtpolice wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

I love a "make someone look stupid" video as much as the next person, but stopped listening early on as a shop has put my left and right tires on backwards. Maybe I should have a made a "stupid mechanics" video instead of swapping them across in my driveway and writing a nasty review on a local website.

#64812

Ophelia Benson - shut your fucking shite-hole for once, you fucking bigoted transphobe*.

*according to SJWs, of course!

#64813

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
comhcinc wrote:

Bull fucking shit. Everything you brought up is backed up with evidence. "Pizzagate" has zero evidence. It's not a gulf of Tonkin, it's a jet fuel can't melt steel beams. It's not Bay of Pigs, it's Sandyhook is an inside job. It's zero evidence bullshit.

You want to discuss bullshit, sure. You want to crack jokes, sure. I did the same thing today. But if you are to pretend like there might be evidence when there is zero or you want to play around with loaded question fallacy then yes you are a fucktard. If after a restaurant full of innocent people are threatened by a armed unbalance person you claim to be enjoying the schadenfreude then yes, you are a shitty person.
It's a real shame I can't find an English-sub version of this, but it pretty much sums up my thoughts about Pizzagate. I hope it conveys the ridiculousness even with the language barrier:

[youtube][/youtube]

That was a build a conspiracy around a chosen subject. And it was in french.

Somehow it made more sense and was far more compelling than all the conspiracy theories I've read on t'net.

Gonna dig deeper... 8-)

#64814

deLurch wrote:
HoneyWagon wrote:Oh well...
It appears the strike on Bearing was a copyright claim from @thefreshchannel because the Bear image itself.
Sure looks like the same bear.
Sugar Tits had said she drew the bears, but I guess she didn't design it.

Still, they should change the bear, but I'd give them a warning first.
Agreed. Ears, eyebrow, nose, eyes, head scruff, feet, freckles. The copyright strike looks legitimate.
https://i.sli.mg/S1KSAX.jpg

Lol oh it's a lot worst than that.

http://totaldrama.wikia.com/wiki/Bear

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/tot ... 0104201638

Straight up stole it.

#64815

Bearing has a new avatar on his twitter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/80 ... j2j0WX.jpg

Just not the same.

#64816

Com - what's wrong with people changing their icons?

#64817

The original was drawn by a highly skilled cartoonist. The other was by the guy's wife trying to make a bear different enough not to be copyright infringement. She kept elements, and swapped others. But it is different enough not to be copyright infringement.

#64818

MarcusAu wrote:Com - what's wrong with people changing their icons?

Nothing wrong with the the act.

I just don't like the new drawing that much. It's the eyes. Don't work for me.

#64819

HoneyWagon wrote:
I am mad too. I had no idea, but I guess some others like Shoe0nhead knew it could be an issue and warned Bearing in the past. There was stream I saw early on with Bearing and Sugar Tits, and she said she drew the characters. Fucking hell.

And this vid from TL;DR reminds me he not only profited from the youtube channel and Patreon, but actual merchandise with the bear image on it.
[youtube]DBZdgaNquyo[/youtube]
(The youtube tags were not working in the preview with the vid id of DBZdgaNquyo, so here is the URL as well https://youtu.be/DBZdgaNquyo)

I saw this mentioned in comments months ago. It was pretty obvious it wasn't her own work.

The production company won't give a toss about loss of revenue or anything like that. What they will care about is losing control of their brand image. It's all about reputation management. Once somebody takes your property, there is no telling what they will turn it into... such as a foul mouthed anti-feminist.

This was bound to happen, the only pity is that the SJWs didn't grass him up sooner before his channel blew up.

#64820

Suet Cardigan wrote:More cuntery from the SPLC:

http://nypost.com/2016/12/05/report-bur ... hite-kids/

The group won’t use its $315 million in assets to investigate the “hate crimes,” or at least help alleged victims file police reports or provide them counseling or other assistance, but it has offered “sympathy.”

Blimey! $315 million.
Shouldn't they be called the Southern Wealth Law Centre?
Where does that all come from?

#64821

deLurch wrote:The original was drawn by a highly skilled cartoonist. The other was by the guy's wife trying to make a bear different enough not to be copyright infringement. She kept elements, and swapped others. But it is different enough not to be copyright infringement.

What so bizarre about this is (according to Bearing) he gave up a really good job to do youtube full time. To do all that and stick with the stolen image? Why?

Sugartits isn't helping matters in my mind either.

They have no one to blame except themselves.

#64822

Suet Cardigan wrote:More cuntery from the SPLC:

http://nypost.com/2016/12/05/report-bur ... hite-kids/

The group won’t use its $315 million in assets to investigate the “hate crimes,” or at least help alleged victims file police reports or provide them counseling or other assistance, but it has offered “sympathy.”

Blimey! $315 million.
Shouldn't they be called the Southern Wealth Law Centre?
Where does that all come from?

#64823

$315 million twice. thats $630 million!

Even worse.

#64824

comhcinc wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:Com - what's wrong with people changing their icons?

Nothing wrong with the the act.

I just don't like the new drawing that much. It's the eyes. Don't work for me.

Surely at this time of year, you could find it in your heart to be generous. (Or at least appear so).

#64825

InfraRedBucket wrote:Blimey! $315 million.
Shouldn't they be called the Southern Wealth Law Centre?
Where does that all come from?

People who want to fight racism, and track hate groups such as NeoNazis, the Klan and other hate groups.

The SPLC appears to have been started with good intentions. But they have not updated themselves with the times. Now it appears as if they are nothing more than a gravy train for the lawyers involved in it.

They have a neat little group going, and what has been a good reputation. They announce that so & so is a hate group, it hits the news, and the donations come pouring in for their good work.

It is a mixture of the ideological, and the gravy slurpers.

#64826

MarcusAu wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:Com - what's wrong with people changing their icons?

Nothing wrong with the the act.

I just don't like the new drawing that much. It's the eyes. Don't work for me.
Surely at this time of year, you could find it in your heart to be generous. (Or at least appear so).

Well I haven't compared then to Jaclyn Glenn yet. That's pretty generous no?

#64827

deLurch wrote:
InfraRedBucket wrote:Blimey! $315 million.
Shouldn't they be called the Southern Wealth Law Centre?
Where does that all come from?
People who want to fight racism, and track hate groups such as NeoNazis, the Klan and other hate groups.

The SPLC appears to have been started with good intentions. But they have not updated themselves with the times. Now it appears as if they are nothing more than a gravy train for the lawyers involved in it.

They have a neat little group going, and what has been a good reputation. They announce that so & so is a hate group, it hits the news, and the donations come pouring in for their good work.

It is a mixture of the ideological, and the gravy slurpers.

They have enough money that they could pay every Klan member in the country to stop being racist.

#64828

comhcinc wrote:
They have no one to blame except themselves.

You know there is approx. 7 billion other people on the planet, right?

#64829

comhcinc wrote:
Well I haven't compared then to Jaclyn Glenn yet. That's pretty generous no?

Third time lucky: Com you recently changed your avatar.

#64830

MarcusAu wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
They have no one to blame except themselves.
You know there is approx. 7 billion other people on the planet, right?

Not sure, haven't took the time to count them.

#64831

MarcusAu wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
Well I haven't compared then to Jaclyn Glenn yet. That's pretty generous no?
Third time lucky: Com you recently changed your avatar.

Me? Never!

Are you feeling okay?

#64832

Page 998....so close this time.... :eusa-pray:

#64833

re: Bearing

I was disappointed, but not surprised, by what happened. Human beings are prone to failure after all.

I certainly don't feel any personal sense of betrayal from it (Though it will be interesting to see what path the 'online community' takes over the next few days). And I'm sure that he has closer acquaintances (with wiser heads) than me to advise him at this time.

nb there was a quote by Kurt Vonnegut that I was going to plagiarise here - but unfortunately memory does not serve. Ah well, perhaps it's for the best.

#64834

That is why MarcusAu asked me to slow down. He wants this moment to last forever.

#64835

SkepticalCat wrote:Page 998....so close this time.... :eusa-pray:

347 ? It's like you are not even trying to help.

#64836

John D wrote:
BoxNDox wrote:
John D wrote: Wow! You are amazing! Really. I mean it!
Agreed. But the better question is why none of this sort of background research was done as part of reporting the incident.
This is my definition of fake news. The press doesn't investigate. They actually think their job is to talk to one person and then publish what they say. This story was run in what used to be a respectable paper... at least to some extent.... The Washington Post.

But, the media is all about clicks. They really don't advocate for truth. They advocate for publishing something people will find interesting.

The gofundme is up to almost $50k.

I fucking hate people.

*shrug*

I recently downgraded them from a 4 to 0 as far as reliable goes.

#64837

CommanderTuvok wrote:
Suet Cardigan wrote:Probably ninja'd, but Connie St Louis has lost her job:

http://archive.is/wSzMr#selection-591.0-591.16

Couldn't have happened to a nicer cunt.
Sweet.

I love it when these SJW cunts lose their comfy non-jobs in academia.

But watch out for that narrative in the MSM and the Guardian, tho. It won't be:.....

"Connie Saint Louis, the liar and fraud sacked from British University because she's a talentless wanker and insufferable regressive cunt".

Which would be the accurate headline. Nope, it will be:.......

"Woman of Colour Connie Saint Louis hounded out of institutionally racist British university because of a mob of raging alt-right MRAs organised by GamerGate and people who hate the new Ghostbusters film"

This makes me happy. Very happy indeed. Wasn't she the winner of the Cunty Award?

#64838

deLurch wrote:That is why MarcusAu asked me to slow down. He wants this moment to last forever.

I said 'Paws'

It's your 'Bear Feet' I had a problem with.

#64839

MarcusAu wrote:re: Bearing

I was disappointed, but not surprised, by what happened. Human beings are prone to failure after all.

I certainly don't feel any personal sense of betrayal from it (Though it will be interesting to see what path the 'online community' takes over the next few days). And I'm sure that he has closer acquaintances (with wiser heads) than me to advise him at this time.

nb there was a quote by Kurt Vonnegut that I was going to plagiarise here - but unfortunately memory does not serve. Ah well, perhaps it's for the best.

Like you I am not upset personally by this but I do want to hear an explanation from Bearing. I just want to see what he has to say. It will be interesting.

#64840

Kirbmarc wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:
Easy J wrote:Does anyone happen to know where the occult-based peophile ring archetype comes from?
Hm. Lemme see. Is there a large, international organization that is known for having/harboring pedophiles who might project their own desires onto others and then accuse said others of being evil, etc?
Islam isn't organized.

#Truth

#64841

MarcusAu wrote:I blame the French

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de ... ild_killer

Though you may care to do some googling on your own - if you want to investigate further.

#Truth

#64842

MarcusAu wrote:re: Bearing

I was disappointed, but not surprised, by what happened. Human beings are prone to failure after all.

I certainly don't feel any personal sense of betrayal from it (Though it will be interesting to see what path the 'online community' takes over the next few days). And I'm sure that he has closer acquaintances (with wiser heads) than me to advise him at this time.

nb there was a quote by Kurt Vonnegut that I was going to plagiarise here - but unfortunately memory does not serve. Ah well, perhaps it's for the best.

His music is original content, Folk rock is not really my cup of tea, but I must admit I have listened to it all... "What if we should be" is my favorite. I'm quite impressed.

#64843

Gen. Flynn, Trump's NSA advisor has a son who until today was advising his father has been fired from that position because he had been tweeting that pizzagate was legit. Could it be Trump's team doesn't like promoting fake news anymore?
CNN's Jake Tapper had been criticizing Flynn the younger, probably because he is part of the conspiracy.
[youtube][/youtube]

#64844

comhcinc wrote:
Like you I am not upset personally by this but I do want to hear an explanation from Bearing. I just want to see what he has to say. It will be interesting.

Com - If I recall correctly, at the time of the 'Sargonian Infiltration' you seemed to be expressing some disdain for Sargon's monetising of videos.

Was that specific to him or do you not like the concept of 'professional youtubers' at all?
(nb As entertaining as some of them are - I think I am leaning more to seeing the lot of them as at least somewhat parasitical).

PS Agree on Bearing - it would best if he just 'fessed up, and cleared the air. (But on the other hand - who is anyone to demand anything from him?).

#64845

Noel plum has winkled out an SJW for a conversation.

Professor Moriaty here plays the part of the regressive hermit crab.

[youtube][/youtube]

Can't stomach to watch it myself - but some of the topics discussed may be of interest to people here.

#64846

VickyCaramel wrote:
His music is original content, Folk rock is not really my cup of tea, but I must admit I have listened to it all... "What if we should be" is my favorite. I'm quite impressed.

Yeah - not bad.

nb have you checked with Milo Manara - about whether you should be using your current avatar?

#64847

Interesting comment on the gofundmepage.
https://www.gofundme.com/no-more-racism

Don Driehaus
8 hours ago
This is a ruse. I talked to the police last night and they suspect an evicted tenant caused the damage. The former tenant is a known drug dealer. This criminal painted swastikas on a nearby Catholic Church earlier this year and was charged with the crime. The Judes are low income landlords who rented to a known criminal and are now crying because he trashed their property. The Judes do not live in Price Hill they live in Loveland a wealthy suburb of Cincinnati. They look to be exploiting their son's death six years ago in Loveland to raise money. At best,the the Judes are bad landlords who did no background check on their criminal tenant or worse they are defrauding well meaning contributors and pocketing thousands of dollars at the expense of Price Hill.

If true, that would significantly tilt in favor of the disgruntle former tenet hypothesis, and yes that would have been personal.

I wish I could identify the former tenet's name in order to verify the criminal history.

And the fundraising is now up to $47,900 of a $35,000 home valued at $30,000.

#64848

MarcusAu wrote:
VickyCaramel wrote:
His music is original content, Folk rock is not really my cup of tea, but I must admit I have listened to it all... "What if we should be" is my favorite. I'm quite impressed.

Yeah - not bad.

nb have you checked with Milo Manara - about whether you should be using your current avatar?

I haven't got a C&D yet. Still waiting.

#64849

MarcusAu wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
Like you I am not upset personally by this but I do want to hear an explanation from Bearing. I just want to see what he has to say. It will be interesting.
Com - If I recall correctly, at the time of the 'Sargonian Infiltration' you seemed to be expressing some disdain for Sargon's monetising of videos.

Was that specific to him or do you not like the concept of 'professional youtubers' at all?
(nb As entertaining as some of them are - I think I am leaning more to seeing the lot of them as at least somewhat parasitical).

PS Agree on Bearing - it would best if he just 'fessed up, and cleared the air. (But on the other hand - who is anyone to demand anything from him?).

I don't have an issue with professional youtubers. Just the opposite if I could figure out an angle and had halfway decent equipment I would give it a try myself. I arrogantly think I am at least as thoughtful and interesting as a lot of people making a living full time.

My issue with Sargon was I felt he was just going to pop in use people here to make a quick buck, and then move on and never be heard from again. I think I have been vindicated in that belief even if people personally don't feel that it's an issue.

When the bearing news first started yesterday I said I figured it was a copyright issue. I was of course wrong about what type of copyright issue it was, but I feel my original criticism is still valid.

Way too many of these youtubers, who many I do enjoying including bearing, play very close to what constitutes fair use. I think some of them often cross the line. I don't think it's done with malice, but I do think a lot of it is laziness.

#64850

A "map" of the alt-right and surrounding ideologies that's going around:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzAXFnLUkAAqK7T.jpg:large

Most of the named authors/blogs seem to agree with their locations, so it's probably at least somewhat useful.

#64851

In my view Bearing has nobody to blame other than himself.
When you are using an avatar to represent yourself- i.e. not your own face at all- then the implications for it go beyond who legally owns it, any audience you build up will identify with it.
Pretty much whatever cartoon bear replaces the stolen one will be met with cries of 'fake bearing' etc etc.

I've little sympathy for him, and I think his shtick comes off a bit meaner than it does funny or informative.

#64852

It appears the vandal also spray painted the word "SLUM" on the window.

Source The Young Turks's video:

#64853

deLurch wrote:It appears the vandal also spray painted the word "SLUM" on the window.

Source The Young Turks's video:

There could be some question of that.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/en. ... 0626052801

#64854

dogen wrote:
Bus stop rat bag, ha ha charade you are.
You fucked up old hag, ha ha charade you are.
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass.
You're nearly a good laugh,
Almost worth a quick grin.
You like the feel of steel,
You're hot stuff with a hatpin,
And good fun with a hand gun.
You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

Oh man, I just about died of happiness when I discovered that the building on the cover of that album was a mere bike ride away from our flat in Clapham.

Not that song (Pigs), but the next song, Sheep, has that cool effect with seamlessly transitioning Gilmour's vocals into the synthesizer sounds. Vocoder? Minimoog? IANAM, so someone help me out here. Maybe Pink Floyd were the first to do this?

#64855

I can't decide. Please help.

#64856

comhcinc wrote:I can't decide. Please help.

Keep the beard!

Of course, that's also the decision Muscato made, so ... there's that. :bjarte:

#64857

deLurch wrote:It appears the vandal also spray painted the word "SLUM" on the window.

Source The Young Turks's video:

That could fit with tagging all the thermostats. They may have refused to fix the HVAC. Not that I have the first bit of fucking evidence, but it fits with a disgruntled tenant.

#64858

comhcinc wrote:I can't decide. Please help.

Mutton chops that join the mustache.

#64859

BarnOwl wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I can't decide. Please help.

Keep the beard!

Of course, that's also the decision Muscato made, so ... there's that. :bjarte:

I voted and its now 50/50. Im so sorry, i thought my vote would help.

#64860

I'm not on Twitter, so my vote hasn't registered.

Twitter-disabled, and I can't get to the polls. Surely this is a violation of my voting rights.