The Refuge of the Toads

[jimmyfromchicago]

Transtrender Milo posted this video. Lesbians are trying to make Chicago Boys Town, less about gay men and more about women, because men must not have anything for themselves, and creating your own space is too hard.
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Lesbians have a neighborhood in Chicago (Andersonville), although the lesbian-oriented businesses there are not as thick on the ground as the gay bars in Boystown. I took the family there for brunch one Sunday. They didn't even knew it was a lesbian neighborhood, so I had to stop my mom from taking my niece into the "toy store."

[jimmyfromchicago]

What gets me is why even 'old school lefties' and 'classic liberals' are surprised by this outcome. It is a feature of your ideology not a bug. The 'gibsmedat' part of your politics have to keep pushing the envelope and become more authoritarian and violent to get the outcome they want. In a democracy the do have to reach critical mass before going all out to crush 35 - 40% conservative part of a given population. Also having access to the Internet helped against a bias MSM, The regressive left/liberals had to go all out and it is looking like they jumped the gun. It was a close call though that just makes the salt more delicious.

I strongly disagree. I don't think that classical liberalism has anything to do with SJWs, no more than classical conservatism has anything to do with fascism or nazism. The defense of equality before the law (equal right to vote for everyone who's an adult), free speech, habeas corpus, innocent until proven guilty, equal access to facilities, desegregation, equal access to the job market etc. are classical liberal values, not "gibsmedat"* (welfare/government handouts, for those who don't know, like me until a couple of minutes ago).

Some kind of safety net for people who actually need it, to put people back on their feet so that they can have access to the job market has been recognized as a value even by Austrian School economists like Friedrich von Hayek. Also unions and free organization of workers are a staple of leftist classical liberalism: limiting their powers is a conservative move, prohibiting them altogether is right-wing authoritarianism. And fighting crony capitalism and the extension of copyright to excessive levels is a libertarian battle. Even Ron Paul, as far from a "gibsmedat" idea of welfare as anyone can possibly be, has recognized the dangers of corporatism.

SJWs are neo-marxists, and they share the problems of old marxism plus a slew of new identity politics bullshit.

*Also, incidentally, looking for "gibsmedat" on google leads to several "shitskin" and "chimpmania" links and to the Daily Stormer. Lovely. Is the word even used outside of actually racist (not SJW racist)/white supremacist websites?

I never said you were SJW's just that your ideology is so open to their ertryism and take over. I happens so often now as to deny it seems to be you putting your head in the sand. The same values you point to are also conservative individualism values. In case you hadn't noticed conservatives are making a push back against crony capitalism, elitism etc. I fully support the welfare state of the UK but believe it should be limited to a safety net rather than a way of life. WE have come to the point were three generations inside one household have never had a job. This doesn't help anybody let alone the people you are condemning to a life of poverty. Gibsmedats is a valid criticism of entitlement culture and no amount of guilt by association will change that.

Yeah, but "gibsmedat" is black dialect (or, as the linguists would call it, African-American Vernacular English). Far be it from me to tell you what to say, but don't be surprised if people think you're drawing a connection between race and entitlement culture.

[Really?]

Transtrender Milo posted this video. Lesbians are trying to make Chicago Boys Town, less about gay men and more about women, because men must not have anything for themselves, and creating your own space is too hard.
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Mykeru’s Law:
“As any progressive movement grows and achieves success, the probability of it being co-opted by women who want to make it all about their vagina approaches 1”

So is xe upset that xe isn't getting any gay dick? Or does xe want more lesbians in the area? If the later, the answer is simple. Set up a lesbian bar in the area & get lesbians to go there.

Gay bars in general are pretty open and welcoming to all people looking to just hang out and have a beer with friends. Lesbian bars tend to keep everyone out but women.

That is amazing. The woman, who is now on the board of what is apparently a real museum in spite of being a psycho, actually complains that Boy's Town doesn't have Ladies Nights at times that are convenient for her. Zero self awareness.

[KiwiInOz]

We've linked to this right?

http://www.splicetoday.com/politics-and ... ble-person

Godfrey-lite.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Wow - I never thought that Kirbmarc would turn out to be an atennis-ist bigot.

That surprised me too. I am a born-again tennisist ever since Rolland Garros was the only thing on TV at the hospital.

[jimmyfromchicago]

Six weeks ago she landed in Israel for a 3 month stint. This was surprising because she is very pro-Palestinian. She wanted to open her prejudices to scrutiny... 4 weeks in she declared Israelis were horrible, rude people with guns and moved over to the West Bank. The Palestinians are "lovely, friendly people" and sge is having an amazing time teaching children English.

PJ O'Rourke once said that one-on-one, man-to-man, Arabs are the most wonderful, generous people imaginable, but get a group of them together and shove a Koran down their pants...

Also, although I've never been to Israel, I know Israeli tourists have bad reputations. I remember a lot of the tourist industry hated them back when I lived in Thailand (and you've really got to be a dick to piss off the Thais). Maybe this is what your daughter experienced?

[feathers]

In his defense, any clothes Danielle wears become tights.

:lol:

[feathers]

Most catholics I know don't really understand that according to the rules of the catholic church they should obey the pope if he gives spiritual directions.

Most (Dutch) catholics I knew know bloody well and had decided to, lalalala, ignore the Pontifex.

Selectively, that is. If the Pope had said something progressive like, "homosexuality is no longer a cardinal sin", they would have given him a thumbs up: well done, old chap, do continue this way.

Unfortunately, during the long reign of John Paul II, that seldom happened so most just left or ignored Rome altogether. Even the lower clergy did.

[HoneyWagon]

European pitters...thoughts?

[Hunt]

Wow - I never thought that Kirbmarc would turn out to be an atennis-ist bigot.

Fucking tennis ruined my life!

https://splitpease.files.wordpress.com/ ... -fail1.jpg

It's a bad racket.

[Hunt]

I'm thinking there must be something really repulsive under the hat. He hasn't taken it off for years now. :shock:

A crown of electrodes going into his brain and leading to Jessica Valenti's laptop?

[paddybrown]

Six weeks ago she landed in Israel for a 3 month stint. This was surprising because she is very pro-Palestinian. She wanted to open her prejudices to scrutiny... 4 weeks in she declared Israelis were horrible, rude people with guns and moved over to the West Bank. The Palestinians are "lovely, friendly people" and sge is having an amazing time teaching children English.

PJ O'Rourke once said that one-on-one, man-to-man, Arabs are the most wonderful, generous people imaginable, but get a group of them together and shove a Koran down their pants...

Also, although I've never been to Israel, I know Israeli tourists have bad reputations. I remember a lot of the tourist industry hated them back when I lived in Thailand (and you've really got to be a dick to piss off the Thais). Maybe this is what your daughter experienced?

My brother worked in Israel for a year, and he said Arabs were very friendly and incredibly hospitable - they'll invite you into their home for a meal at the drop of a hat, and if you don't leave something on your plate, they'll just keep feeding you and feeding you until you explode - but Israelis were rather paranoid and suspicious of others.

[Shatterface]

European pitters...thoughts?

I think if you are going to lump I far right nationalists with socialists because National Socialism hur hur hur you are rntiteled to the same response as claiming atheists are at was with Christians.

[Shatterface]

Fucking edit button.

[HoneyWagon]

European pitters...thoughts?

I think if you are going to lump I far right nationalists with socialists because National Socialism hur hur hur you are rntiteled to the same response as claiming atheists are at was with Christians.

I think that twitter thread is filled with people who have never ever been to Europe and assume it is hell hole

[Shatterface]

European pitters...thoughts?

I think if you are going to lump I far right nationalists with socialists because National Socialism hur hur hur you are rntiteled to the same response as claiming atheists are at was with Christians.

I think that twitter thread is filled with people who have never ever been to Europe and assume it is hell hole

Thank god East Germany rejected socialism after WWII and became a Democratic Republic.

[feathers]

Six weeks ago she landed in Israel for a 3 month stint. This was surprising because she is very pro-Palestinian. She wanted to open her prejudices to scrutiny... 4 weeks in she declared Israelis were horrible, rude people with guns and moved over to the West Bank. The Palestinians are "lovely, friendly people" and sge is having an amazing time teaching children English.

At least she put her non-money where here mouth is, rather than staying behind a keyboard. Of course being at the scene of the crime as it happens doesn't necessarily make you more objective, as it is easy to lose oversight.

I wonder what she would have thought if there had been a Hezbollah attack against those awful Isreali... children in the neighbourhood.

[feathers]

Steve shows it's possible to rock a polycule of one.

I don't want anybody else. When I think about you, I touch myself.

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Well thank you for putting that in my head. It happily replaces Last Christmas.

(I've heard of a last-man-standing game, dontknowwhatitscalled, where you're out if you hear that dreaded number. Christmasgeddon or something.)

[feathers]

I'm thinking there must be something really repulsive under the hat. He hasn't taken it off for years now. :shock:

What hat?

[MarcusAu]

The figured don't lie - obviously we need the guiding hand of a religious theocracy.

The question is which one?

[Guest_935516df]

Six weeks ago she landed in Israel for a 3 month stint. This was surprising because she is very pro-Palestinian. She wanted to open her prejudices to scrutiny... 4 weeks in she declared Israelis were horrible, rude people with guns and moved over to the West Bank. The Palestinians are "lovely, friendly people" and sge is having an amazing time teaching children English.

At least she put her non-money where here mouth is, rather than staying behind a keyboard. Of course being at the scene of the crime as it happens doesn't necessarily make you more objective, as it is easy to lose oversight.

I wonder what she would have thought if there had been a Hezbollah attack against those awful Isreali... children in the neighbourhood.

In contrast, this PragerU video has a muslim who claims that he was raised to hate Jews, and did until he visited Israel and saw Jews, Christians & Muslims all living peacefully side-by-side. It did kind of set off my propaganda alarm. So I don't know if this is the full story, a bullshit story, or an isolated case story. But I did find it interesting because it is VERY different from all of the stories & media coming out about Israel.

Take it for what you will.


-Soylent

[MarcusAu]

Congrats H. Bunny on the restoration of diplomatic relations with Daughter number two.

It sound like that as the song goes: It's going to be a Punk Rock SJW christmas this year.

As far as presents go - I believe the politically correct thing is to sponsor a goat for an African village on their behalf.

[Shatterface]

The figured don't lie - obviously we need the guiding hand of a religious theocracy.

The question is which one?

Well, Islam fared pretty well against the Commies in Afghanistan while the Christian US got whupped in Vietnam.

Also Islam is more successful in upholding family values by holding back women's rights and teh gays.

[Shatterface]

I tried sponsoring a goat once but it's hard persuading them to complete a marathon or sit still in a bath full of custard.

[MarcusAu]

Also HB - have you thought of hinting to your offspring - that you are thinking of joining the S.K.I club?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spending-Kids- ... 1845282914

[MarcusAu]

I tried sponsoring a goat once but it's hard persuading them to complete a marathon or sit still in a bath full of custard.

There is an alternative:

http://www.timeout.com/london/festivals ... -goat-race

[Shatterface]

I'm starting to feel the same way about The Guardian as Robert Carlyle felt about The Sun in Cracker:

Assimilation threatens the existence of other cultures
Giles Fraser

The very nature of community is that there is a boundary between those who are in it and those who are not

This week a doctor from north London was telling me about one of his patients, a lad of 20 who has lived in the borough of Hackney all his life. He was born here and grew up here. And he’s a bright boy – yet he speaks only a few very rudimentary words of English. The language he speaks at home and at school is Yiddish. Some may be appalled by the insularity of the community in which this young man was raised. But I admire it. In particular, I admire the resilience of a community that seeks to maintain its distinctiveness and recognises, quite rightly, that assimilation into the broader culture would mean the gradual dilution, and the eventual extinction, of its own way of life. It is no surprise to me that the ultra orthodox are thriving, with high birth rates and predictions that they will be constitute a majority of the Jewish population within 20 years. They have refused assimilation.

It adds immeasurably to the richness and diversity of how life is apprehended that not everyone sees the world in the same way. It is mind-expanding to be challenged by those who commit to another way of life. What a miserably grey one-dimensional place it would be if the dominant model of middle-of-the-road liberal secular capitalism became the only acceptable way of living.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... r-cultures

[Malky]

I'm starting to feel the same way about The Guardian as Robert Carlyle felt about The Sun in Cracker:

Assimilation threatens the existence of other cultures
Giles Fraser

The very nature of community is that there is a boundary between those who are in it and those who are not

This week a doctor from north London was telling me about one of his patients, a lad of 20 who has lived in the borough of Hackney all his life. He was born here and grew up here. And he’s a bright boy – yet he speaks only a few very rudimentary words of English. The language he speaks at home and at school is Yiddish. Some may be appalled by the insularity of the community in which this young man was raised. But I admire it. In particular, I admire the resilience of a community that seeks to maintain its distinctiveness and recognises, quite rightly, that assimilation into the broader culture would mean the gradual dilution, and the eventual extinction, of its own way of life. It is no surprise to me that the ultra orthodox are thriving, with high birth rates and predictions that they will be constitute a majority of the Jewish population within 20 years. They have refused assimilation.

It adds immeasurably to the richness and diversity of how life is apprehended that not everyone sees the world in the same way. It is mind-expanding to be challenged by those who commit to another way of life. What a miserably grey one-dimensional place it would be if the dominant model of middle-of-the-road liberal secular capitalism became the only acceptable way of living.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... r-cultures

Article does seem to ignore the limitations and harm imposed on those brought up within such a restrictive society suffer. Liberal secular capitalism is not grey and one dimensional but extremely diverse.

[feathers]

As far as presents go - I believe the politically correct thing is to sponsor a goat for an African village on their behalf.

"Yeah. Well. Thanks I guess. Can we use the money for an iPhone next time?"

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/9375e9295a354 ... bxhemw.jpg

[MarcusAu]

No joke about the goat.

My mum's cousin gifted one, several xmas's ago.

It was accepted politely, but there was a definite undercurrent of - 'just keep your fucking politics out of holiday celebrations'.

[Shatterface]

Sponsoring a goat on someone else's behalf is just giving yourself the present of virtue.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

So, lake and Glenn now.

Fuck you 2016! Fuck you right up the ass!!!

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[Kirbmarc]

European pitters...thoughts?

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Leaving aside the blatant anti-European bias of that Twitter user (who might be a troll or at least writing those thing in a tongue in cheek fashion), I think that most Americans don't realize that there's no such thing and there's never been such a thing as a purely libertarian or a purely government-driven economy.

All economies are a mix of market and state economies, it's just that in liberal democracies economic efforts aren't centralized and directed as they were/are in left totalitarian states.

It's also pretty odd to see German National Socialism called "pagan" with respects to religion: there was no such thing as a state religion in Nazi Germany, and while some Nazis, like Himmler, were followers of weird supernatural cults, many Nazis were Protestants or Catholics or at least paid lip service to Christianity, like Hitler himself, and even tried to launch a version of Christianity without its "Jewish content". Nazi Germany is included in a lost of socialist states when they actually were corporatists and followers of the "third way" between a government-driven or a market-driven economy.

[It's also weird that a Trump supporter rails against socialism when Trump is actually in favor of more governmental control of the economy than the average Republican candidate. Trump is a protectionist and an isolationist, pretty far from a libertarian. Trump is likely to increase, not decrease government spending if he wants to build the wall and give incentives to American business to stay local.]

But anyway. The US have plenty of government spending, it's just spent on different things than in Europe: they spend more on defense in percentage of their spending than most European countries and far less on healthcare, for example. OR DO THEY? (Dun dun dun...)

According to this website the US government (at all levels: federal, state and local) is estimated to spend in 2017: $1.3 trillions on pensions (20% of their spending), $1.5 trillion on healthcare (22%), $ 1.0 trillion on education (15%), $0.9 trillion on defense (12%) and $0.5 trillion on welfare (7%), all out of a total $6.9 trillion.

In comparison the the UK government (again, both at central and at local levels) is estimated to spend £156.9 billions on pensions (20%, more or less like the Yanks), £142.7 billions on healthcare (18%, actually four percentage points less than the US!), £85.2 billions on education (11%, seven percentage points less than the US...) and yes, only £45.6 billions on defense (only 6%, roughly the half, in terms of percentage points, of what Uncle Sam pays for his troops, so yeah, the defense spending thing is probably accurate), out of a total of £784 billion.

A UN estimate of the US population is of 325,147,405 people. The same UN estimate of the UK population is 65,284,874 people.

So a very rough and superficial analysis tells us that the US government spends roughly $21.100 for every citizen it has, while the UK government spends £12,000 for every one of its subjects. This result looks surprising, because it tells us that not only the UK spends half for citizen than what the US spend, but that the US spend more, in percentage, on healthcare and education than the UK!

And yet it's the UK who is popularly known for public healthcare and education while the US are known, at least in the media and the popular perception, as places with little to no government spending, especially on healthcare and education!

What's going on? Well, it's easy, I cheated a bit, since total government spending is pretty much meaningless, because it includes local, state and federal spending. Local and state, spending on healthcare means, for example, building, maintaining and repairing hospitals, of which the US has more than UK (simply because they're a more populous country), or local/state subsidies to local/state healthcare businesses. Likewise the local/state spending on education includes building, maintaining and repairing schools, and school vouchers. Again the US has more people so it's kind of obvious they spend more on that.

A better indication of how the US manage their budget in a way that is different from European nations is the US federal budget spending. Leaving aside interests on federal debt (which are less than 10% of the federal spending), there is mandatory and discretionary spending.

Mandatory spending makes up two thirds of the US federal budget spending. It isn't decided year by year through appropriations, but periodically, through eligibility rules for Social Security, Medicare and Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) which compromise most of it, along with minor benefits like Veteran's Benefits or some transportation and food subsidies.

Basically the system works like this: the Congress sets the criteria on who gets benefits in terms of healthcare, social security and food aid and then sees how many people apply and are eligible. So the US already spend plenty of money on healthcare and social security, but unlike many other liberal democracies those expenses are in form of aid to single people and families who apply and are found eligible, not to a centralized and organized safety net (like the NHS in the UK).

Whether the current US system is better than the current UK system is left to the opinion of the reader, but it's pretty stupid to think that the US are a "capitalist" country that spends nothing on healthcare and safety nets while the UK is a "socialist" country with a "socialized" healthcare and safety nets. It's just a difference of how expenses for healthcare and safety nets are managed.

Anyway, in terms of pure spending, the US in 2015 spent $986 billion specifically on Medicare and Health, while the UK spent £116.4 billion on the NHS.

We assume that the population in the US and the UK were, in 2015, of respectively, 320,090,857 and of 65,110,000

So the numbers tell that the UK spent around £1788 per subject on the NHS while the US spent $3080 per person only on Medicare, Medicaid and other health programs, give or take.

But wait. We have to take into account the exchange rate. We assume an average roughly 1,5 dollars for every British pound in 2015 the UK still spent less (roughly $2700) per their subjects on the NHS than the US (roughly $3000) on Medicare, Medicaid, and other federal mandatory spending on healthcare per their citizens.

From these numbers it almost looks like the US are the slightly more "socialist" state in terms of healthcare, and that UK has a slightly less expensive healthcare system, even taking into account exchange rates and the respective size of each population. This looks, again, pretty surprising.

TL;DR: Are the US really spending much less on the UK on healthcare? Probably not, maybe even a bit more! Are the US as "socialist" as the UK, or even more?

[MarcusAu]

Giles Fraser
...

Why does that name sound familiar?

Oh yes - it sounds like it could be used in gay porn.

No shoops please.

[Kirbmarc]

I'm starting to feel the same way about The Guardian as Robert Carlyle felt about The Sun in Cracker:

Assimilation threatens the existence of other cultures
Giles Fraser

The very nature of community is that there is a boundary between those who are in it and those who are not

This week a doctor from north London was telling me about one of his patients, a lad of 20 who has lived in the borough of Hackney all his life. He was born here and grew up here. And he’s a bright boy – yet he speaks only a few very rudimentary words of English. The language he speaks at home and at school is Yiddish. Some may be appalled by the insularity of the community in which this young man was raised. But I admire it. In particular, I admire the resilience of a community that seeks to maintain its distinctiveness and recognises, quite rightly, that assimilation into the broader culture would mean the gradual dilution, and the eventual extinction, of its own way of life. It is no surprise to me that the ultra orthodox are thriving, with high birth rates and predictions that they will be constitute a majority of the Jewish population within 20 years. They have refused assimilation.

It adds immeasurably to the richness and diversity of how life is apprehended that not everyone sees the world in the same way. It is mind-expanding to be challenged by those who commit to another way of life. What a miserably grey one-dimensional place it would be if the dominant model of middle-of-the-road liberal secular capitalism became the only acceptable way of living.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... r-cultures

The young lad who only speaks Yiddish and very poor English will not likely find a job, or a girlfriend, or many friends outside of his community, because the language barrier is so strong and, you know, society at large speaks English. He will likely vote for the candidate that only represents his community, because he's not likely to understand the speeches of the other. If he happens to leave his community for a while for whatever reasons he's likely to think of the "outsiders" as completely alien to him at best and as hostile at most. If he takes a plane he's likely to pitch a fit if he has to sit near a woman, who is "unclean" by his culture's standards.

If he happens to become an outcast for whatever reason he won't have a place to go,but who cares, he'll just be a failure, a sell out, corrupted by our Evil Assimilation. If social tensions rise between his community and society at large he'll likely side with his community. If corruption and crime (from drug dealing to child sexual abuse) goes on within his community he'll cover it up, because even if he wanted to expose it, how could he?

If there is a clash between the laws and institutions of his community and those of the United Kingdom at large, which ones do you think he'll choose? If a Jewish terrorist group declared a war on the United Kingdom do you think that the lad will inform the police of the presence of them in the area? If a Jewish supremacist ideology took hold within his community and wants to impose its laws to the United Kingdom do you think he won't side with them? If massive Jewish immigration to the United Kingdom turned more and more areas into small Jewish states within the state that wouldn't be a problem, now, would it?

But hey, celebrate diversity! What a miserably grey one-dimensional place it would be if all people understood and spoke well the majority language of the land and could move out of their communities or understand and appreciate the laws and principles of the land! Difference is the spice of life, and so are riots and civil wars.

[Kirbmarc]

I'm starting to feel the same way about The Guardian as Robert Carlyle felt about The Sun in Cracker:

Assimilation threatens the existence of other cultures
Giles Fraser

The very nature of community is that there is a boundary between those who are in it and those who are not

This week a doctor from north London was telling me about one of his patients, a lad of 20 who has lived in the borough of Hackney all his life. He was born here and grew up here. And he’s a bright boy – yet he speaks only a few very rudimentary words of English. The language he speaks at home and at school is Yiddish. Some may be appalled by the insularity of the community in which this young man was raised. But I admire it. In particular, I admire the resilience of a community that seeks to maintain its distinctiveness and recognises, quite rightly, that assimilation into the broader culture would mean the gradual dilution, and the eventual extinction, of its own way of life. It is no surprise to me that the ultra orthodox are thriving, with high birth rates and predictions that they will be constitute a majority of the Jewish population within 20 years. They have refused assimilation.

It adds immeasurably to the richness and diversity of how life is apprehended that not everyone sees the world in the same way. It is mind-expanding to be challenged by those who commit to another way of life. What a miserably grey one-dimensional place it would be if the dominant model of middle-of-the-road liberal secular capitalism became the only acceptable way of living.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... r-cultures

The young lad who only speaks Yiddish and very poor English will not likely find a job, or a girlfriend, or many friends outside of his community, because the language barrier is so strong and, you know, society at large speaks English. He will likely vote for the candidate that only represents his community, because he's not likely to understand the speeches of the other. If he happens to leave his community for a while for whatever reasons he's likely to think of the "outsiders" as completely alien to him at best and as hostile at most. If he takes a plane he's likely to pitch a fit if he has to sit near a woman, who is "unclean" by his culture's standards.

If he happens to become an outcast for whatever reason he won't have a place to go,but who cares, he'll just be a failure, a sell out, corrupted by our Evil Assimilation. If social tensions rise between his community and society at large he'll likely side with his community. If corruption and crime (from drug dealing to child sexual abuse) goes on within his community he'll cover it up, because even if he wanted to expose it, how could he?

If there is a clash between the laws and institutions of his community and those of the United Kingdom at large, which ones do you think he'll choose? If a Jewish terrorist group declared a war on the United Kingdom do you think that the lad will inform the police of the presence of them in the area? If a Jewish supremacist ideology took hold within his community and wants to impose its laws to the United Kingdom do you think he won't side with them? If massive Jewish immigration to the United Kingdom turned more and more areas into small Jewish states within the state that wouldn't be a problem, now, would it?

But hey, celebrate diversity! What a miserably grey one-dimensional place it would be if all people understood and spoke well the majority language of the land and could move out of their communities or understand and appreciate the laws and principles of the land! Difference is the spice of life, and so are riots and civil wars.

[Kirbmarc]

Wikipedia on Giles Fraser:

Fraser's father was Jewish and his mother from a Christian background, and Fraser himself was circumcised according to Jewish tradition.[7] He was educated at a fee-paying Christian school (Uppingham) and became a Christian.[8] He has been involved in social and political advocacy and according to The Daily Telegraph "would be the first to admit that he is fond of the sound of his own voice".[9]

If Fraser's father had stayed true to his Jewish roots like the "young lad" of the article Fraser probably wouldn't have existed.

[sp0tlight]

I missed the 1000th page. Congrats, Kiwi on scoring the big one.

I'm assuming that the Czech is in the mail.

You'll never go Hungary again.

[deLurch]

The coppers picked up a "Person of Interest" in the swastika house destruction.

The article is not all that additionally informative.
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/20 ... /94885624/

Lt. Steve Saunders, spokesperson for the Cincinnati police, said the charge being considered would be breaking and entering, with the potential for some "hate bias enhancements, if that can be demonstrated."

"There's a lot of ways you have to go through and verify," he said.

I find this quote interesting given that Pat & Joe purchased back the house for $0 according to county records, which they had sold to their daughter for $55,000, which Pat & Jude had purchased originally for $35,000, and was only valued at $30,000 in 2014.

This isn't the first time the Judes, who were watching the house for their daughter after a job promotion brought her to Chicago, have been targeted.

Yup. I bet this isn't the first time the couple of slum lords who rent to shitty people that any simple search reveals and have had 9 eviction cases alone in 2016 for 17 properites.

“These people need to be brought to justice because it may be your house next time, it may be your daughter's house next time, and we need to stop it. We've got to stop this stuff from going on,” Pat said.

Source: http://www.wlwt.com/article/some-women- ... ut/8467438

I agree that the vandals need to be stopped and pay the price for the damage they have caused. But this sure as shit isn't going to happen to other normal people or other people's daughters. It only happens to slum lords who don't bother to do simple background checks on the individuals they rent to. And slum lords who's rental history is so poor that they have 9 evictions in a year for 17 properties and see this type of damage as a cost of doing business.

The couple lives in Loveland and they rent out several homes in Cincinnati, leading to questions if the vandal could have been a disgruntled tenant.

"It certainly could have," Pat Jude said. "Usually, though, there are ways to deal with that. If it would have been a disgruntled tenant, it probably wouldn't have been so hateful."

Source: http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/ham ... -hill-home

I could see the assholes you rented to, and appear to rent to on a regular basis being that bad, especially when you have them physically evicted 3 days before Thanksgiving.

[sp0tlight]

European pitters...thoughts?

Over a million dead by the hands of Polish Communist party feels a bit too high. The Black Book of Communism put the number on 1 million for the entire Eastern Block.

[Barbie's Boyfriend]

European pitters...thoughts?

I think if you are going to lump I far right nationalists with socialists because National Socialism hur hur hur you are rntiteled to the same response as claiming atheists are at was with Christians.

I think that twitter thread is filled with people who have never ever been to Europe and assume it is hell hole

Or as I like to tell my Right Wing friends, the only people you ever hear bitching about European Health Care are American Right Wingers

[deLurch]

Good news! I spoke to my SJW 21yr old daughter last night, for the 1st time since the Paris attacks. We both avoided the whole Muslim issue, so I guess we have silently agreed to disagree. She is still into some weird millennial sect though as I asked her if she would like me to get her Christmas present in Paris when I am there next week. She said yes, but asked that it be something small as "luxury is bad for the soul". We later discussed the benefits of her new iPhone 7 :roll:

Glad to hear your daughter is back in touch. Chalk it up to the normal young adult rebellious stage where they distance themselves from their parents to try and strike out on their own. You can take pleasure in knowing she will eventually grow up to be a lot like you. I see that happening with my siblings as they get older.

In other millennial daughter news, my 26 yr old is on a world adventure. This involves travelling the world with no money, staying at hostels and working in return for food and a bed. Apparently money inhibits the mind. Except when she sends me a message on FB every 6 weeks asking for some.

That kind of travel can be great for some people. Reading through other people's experiences it sounds like an awesome adventure. Now this is going to have to lead her to one of two successful outcomes. Either she meets the man of her dreams while traveling and she then gets taken care of for life. Or she takes the skills she has learned working and traveling abroad to open doors or create her own business. Sadly the later option probably won't happen if she is still relying on mommy & daddy to bail her out and make this work. The key to that kind of education is self reliance. I am not saying don't bail her out of medical trouble or not offer her a plane ticket back home. But for her to truly live and learn from this current lifestyle, she can't have just one foot in the door, and the other relying on you.

[MarcusAu]

Wikipedia on Giles Fraser:

Fraser's father was Jewish and his mother from a Christian background, and Fraser himself was circumcised according to Jewish tradition.[7] He was educated at a fee-paying Christian school (Uppingham) and became a Christian.[8] He has been involved in social and political advocacy and according to The Daily Telegraph "would be the first to admit that he is fond of the sound of his own voice".[9]

If Fraser's father had stayed true to his Jewish roots like the "young lad" of the article Fraser probably wouldn't have existed.

I really wonder how much Fraser believes that the subject of the article had the freedom to choose his current life, as opposed choosing the benefits of living in a mainstream liberal democracy.

Some people are not 'defaulted' into such an option as Fraser himself was - by the choices of his parents.

[franc]

http://i.imgur.com/ingimko.jpg

[MarcusAu]

Thanks Franc - I hadn't done all my xmas shopping yet.

[MarcusAu]

Woo hoo!

[youtube][/youtube]

[franc]

Thanks Franc - I hadn't done all my xmas shopping yet.

I was honored by Ophelia Benson's introduction piece. She's not such a bag of rotting ribs and antlers. She is a lady of grace and forgiveness. We have been way too harsh on Oafy.

[feathers]

I missed the 1000th page. Congrats, Kiwi on scoring the big one.

I'm assuming that the Czech is in the mail.

You'll never go Hungary again.

It'll give him a giant Pole.

[Brive1987]

Right. New Watson super secret,$3 vlog effort. Definite watch material.

If I can get a fixed-embed I'd be happy. deLurch u b my YouTube bitch?

https://youtu.be/TIVMxANDpCk


1. As certain as it will be that it's splits-central. She is going bookcase shopping for "her" apartment.
2. She has a new mike. Listen to how wonderful it is at the beginning.
3. She looks like hell.
4. Her head and face have more movements than a newbie in Cairo.
5. She is dragging quiz-a-thing out of the grave and begs for pre-sales so the organisers don't laugh at her
6. A vacuum goes off on the other side of her paper walls like a creepy David Lynch scene

Best of all.

This.

This at 1.20 is the moment when she says "I am so excited"

http://i.imgur.com/qBJT3jU.jpg

[Brive1987]

I hope she remembers to leave a warning sign on the door to call for emergency services.

[sp0tlight]

I'll be yo bitch, B-daddy,

[youtube][/youtube]

[Brive1987]

Next reach around is on me. Cheers.

[sp0tlight]

LOL, 14 views. That's with me and Brive. Going places.

[Billie from Ockham]

John Glenn is dead.

#RightStuff #Fuck2016

Are you sure that his death wasn't faked? Where was Stanley Kubrick when Glenn supposedly died?

[VickyCaramel]

Six weeks ago she landed in Israel for a 3 month stint. This was surprising because she is very pro-Palestinian. She wanted to open her prejudices to scrutiny... 4 weeks in she declared Israelis were horrible, rude people with guns and moved over to the West Bank. The Palestinians are "lovely, friendly people" and sge is having an amazing time teaching children English.

PJ O'Rourke once said that one-on-one, man-to-man, Arabs are the most wonderful, generous people imaginable, but get a group of them together and shove a Koran down their pants...

Also, although I've never been to Israel, I know Israeli tourists have bad reputations. I remember a lot of the tourist industry hated them back when I lived in Thailand (and you've really got to be a dick to piss off the Thais). Maybe this is what your daughter experienced?

My brother worked in Israel for a year, and he said Arabs were very friendly and incredibly hospitable - they'll invite you into their home for a meal at the drop of a hat, and if you don't leave something on your plate, they'll just keep feeding you and feeding you until you explode - but Israelis were rather paranoid and suspicious of others.

I was going to respond to this last night, but didn't want to summon git.

All of North Africa and the Levant has a culture of hospitality. They will fight each other over the opportunity to take you home and feed you.

By contrast, Israelis treat you with suspicion if you are off the tourist path. I heard a story a while ago about some Christian Zionists women who went to Israel. They were "detained for questioning", had their sanitary products confiscated, were locked in a room until they soiled themselves, then put on the first plane to Europe. I have also heard of Jewish tourists walking in the hills having had orthodox Jews point guns and throw rocks at them.

[franc]

By contrast, Israelis treat you with suspicion if you are off the tourist path. I heard a story a while ago about some Christian Zionists women who went to Israel. They were "detained for questioning", had their sanitary products confiscated, were locked in a room until they soiled themselves, then put on the first plane to Europe. I have also heard of Jewish tourists walking in the hills having had orthodox Jews point guns and throw rocks at them.

outrageous from a people that only had 6 million gassed. Call the students union. demand a safe space. do it with a groucho marx nose and cigar.

[MarcusAu]

Damn you Brive,

Just when I thought I was out you drag me back in.

I don't know if she watches her vids before uploading - but if so, it's the perfect opportunity for he to reassess life choices.

The very next time I have $5 (or equivalent) to spend on some 1st world, privileged human being - I'm going to enjoy the fuck out of a cup of coffee.

[Kirbmarc]

All of North Africa and the Levant has a culture of hospitality. They will fight each other over the opportunity to take you home and feed you.

By contrast, Israelis treat you with suspicion if you are off the tourist path. I heard a story a while ago about some Christian Zionists women who went to Israel. They were "detained for questioning", had their sanitary products confiscated, were locked in a room until they soiled themselves, then put on the first plane to Europe. I have also heard of Jewish tourists walking in the hills having had orthodox Jews point guns and throw rocks at them.

On a more cynical and pragmatic level Palestinians need international support and tourism badly and so have incentives to show off their good side, while Israel has some pretty sure avenues of revenue from Israel lobbyists in the US and so don't necessary have to play nice. Jewish settlers in the land are also likely to be people who fight off intruders at the first sign of suspicious behavior, a bit like old American settlers/American people in isolated areas.

[VickyCaramel]

By contrast, Israelis treat you with suspicion if you are off the tourist path. I heard a story a while ago about some Christian Zionists women who went to Israel. They were "detained for questioning", had their sanitary products confiscated, were locked in a room until they soiled themselves, then put on the first plane to Europe. I have also heard of Jewish tourists walking in the hills having had orthodox Jews point guns and throw rocks at them.

outrageous from a people that only had 6 million gassed. Call the students union. demand a safe space. do it with a groucho marx nose and cigar.

Hmmmm, pretty lame. If you are going to make excuses, I would have gone with ~ "Everybody wants to throw rocks at American tourists".

[Kirbmarc]

All of North Africa and the Levant has a culture of hospitality. They will fight each other over the opportunity to take you home and feed you.

By contrast, Israelis treat you with suspicion if you are off the tourist path. I heard a story a while ago about some Christian Zionists women who went to Israel. They were "detained for questioning", had their sanitary products confiscated, were locked in a room until they soiled themselves, then put on the first plane to Europe. I have also heard of Jewish tourists walking in the hills having had orthodox Jews point guns and throw rocks at them.

Also I've tended to notice that all people in the Mediterranean area tend to have a culture of hospitality which tends to be millennium old, like the Greeks and the ξενία, which tends to still be valid in places as diverse as Sicily, Apulia, Rhodes, Turkey and Andalusia. I don't know if it's the Greek influence or something even older. It seems to be a remnant of old methods to forge alliances which were also widespread in Central Asia and Mongolia, at least at the time of Marco Polo's voyages.

In general it seems that if you're bringing money, stuff, a potentially useful alliance or entertainment and it's generally understood that you're going to leave at some point people tend to be more hospital and willing to treat you well and to want to impress you with their generosity, while if you're perceived as a threat since you don't seem to bring anything useful and are going to stay then things get nastier.It makes sense from a "social evolution" point of view: trade and alliances are useful to community and impressing the potentially powerful and useful foreigner is a bonus but if you're under threat or if the foreigner looks like a potential competitor then the gloves come off.