Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!

[Lsuoma]

Also, in the US there is a (dick-in-cheek) bill proposing that you get a tug if you have a tug:



Not sure what effect that would have on Dick the Stickster...

[screwtape]

Very short version of my position: I don't want Clinton in jail but I don't want her to stay in politics, either. After the last election fiasco she should have retired.

Clinton kind of has an obligation to GTFO of politics. It's kind of like Ralph Nader, post 2000 elections. Sure he was and still is a good guy; he's done a lot of good; the world is a better place for him being here. But...he's also probably the reason we suffered though eight years of Bush, and people never forgot that. How much have you heard from Nader in the last 17 years? Not much. That's the way it should be with both Clintons. We should be done with them. They had their day. Let's move on. We'll never know whether Clinton, insisting on her shot at president, is the reason we don't have President Sanders right now, but the serious possibility has dawned on a lot of people.

There is a third Clinton, who I'm certain will be entering politics. And she has a face like a horse.

You are a very scary man, FT.

[Kirbmarc]

Also, in the US there is a (dick-in-cheek) bill proposing that you get a tug if you have a tug:



Not sure what effect that would have on Dick the Stickster...

I probably have an anti-Republican bias ( :lol: ) because when I read your post I thought it was a crazy Bible Belt idiot who proposed it.

Instead it's a Democratic representative of Texas who's basically trolling her fellow representative on abortion:

Jessica Farrar, a Democratic member of the Texas House of Representatives, submitted House Bill number 4260 last week. She knows it will never become law. Indeed, it is unlikely to make it far at all.
But she argues it is no more extreme than the restrictions put on women by the state of Texas when it comes to choosing whether or not to end their pregnancy.

Taken as political trolling it's actually kind of funny. Hell, the Python made pretty much the same concept into a famous sketch years ago:

[youtube][/youtube]

Also:

"It got me thinking, maybe what's good for the goose is good for the gander," Ms Farrar told the BBC. "If we are taking these measures because of the sanctity of life, well, we just cannot waste any seed."

I think we've doxxed Steersman's girlfriend. :lol:

[Kirbmarc]

Farrar should definitey call her bill the "Every Sperm is Sacred" bill.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Ralph Nader.... Sure he was and still is a good guy; he's done a lot of good; the world is a better place for him being here.

Ralph Nader is and always has been an obnoxious, egomaniacal prick. He first became famous with Unsafe At Any Speed, a scare-mongering polemic filled with misinformation and hyperbole. He parlayed that into the role of Official Social Justice Crusader™, pushing himself into the limelight and taking credit for causes and campaigns to which he was ever the Johnny-come-lately. While blathering on about workers' rights, he exploited and abused his own employees. His presidential runs were all about his ego. Like his petulant, iconoclastic supporters (including last year's 'Bernie Bro's') he indulges eschatological fantasies about instant-pudding revolution, and in classic proglodyte fashion, directs all his energies at tearing down those to the immediate right of him on the political spectrum -- the moderate liberals -- in the process aiding & abetting the far right.

Fuck Ralph Nader sideways with a rusty Corvair.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Taken as political trolling it's actually kind of funny.

"It got me thinking, maybe what's good for the goose is good for the gander," Ms Farrar told the BBC. "If we are taking these measures because of the sanctity of life, well, we just cannot waste any seed."

It's lousy satire. She makes the false equivalency of: aborting a fetus = masturbation, vasectomy, viagra, colonoscopy. A wild lunge, easily parried.

It's smarmy idiocy & shoddy logic like this that has completely fucked the pro-choice cause in the US.

[katamari Damassi]

So a first generation Egyptian-American writes that Muslims don't have a problem assimilating in the US.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... bogus.html

He immediately undermines his thesis by describing his idyllic childhood in a muslim enclave in NJ wherein he went to a muslim school and never met anyone who wasn't a muslim-his only contact with his country's culture being TV. That is until 9/11 when his family put him in public school.

Slate censored my comment on this article. I very politely asked the author if the sister he bragged about having graduated Harvard, still had her clitoris. I said that his Egyptian mother likely did not since Egypt has the highest number of women mutilated. I asked; in light of this, could he see why Americans insisted on a certain degree of assimilation.

[BoxNDox]

Kill the cows. Seriously. Get rid of those millions of methane releasers, right now. Punitive tax on cow products.

I am eating/killing all of the cows I can. If you wish to put your money where your mouth is, send me a $100 McDonald's gift certificate to help me out with getting rid of all of the cows I can. PM me for an address.

Not sure how many actual cows go into the burgers at the "fine Scottish restaurant", but the thought of eating $100 of whatever it is boggles the mind.

[Kirbmarc]

So a first generation Egyptian-American writes that Muslims don't have a problem assimilating in the US.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... bogus.html

He immediately undermines his thesis by describing his idyllic childhood in a muslim enclave in NJ wherein he went to a muslim school and never met anyone who wasn't a muslim-his only contact with his country's culture being TV. That is until 9/11 when his family put him in public school.

Slate censored my comment on this article. I very politely asked the author if the sister he bragged about having graduated Harvard, still had her clitoris. I said that his Egyptian mother likely did not since Egypt has the highest number of women mutilated. I asked; in light of this, could he see why Americans insisted on a certain degree of assimilation.

It's Slate. Typical.

[shoutinghorse]

Beccy doing her bit for gender harmony in gaming on "international Wimminz Day" .. Yay, way to go girl, Emily Pankhurst would be soooo proud. :dance:


http://i.imgur.com/dHjq6SW.png

http://i.imgur.com/iNApJLU.png

(stony silence on Indy's whereabouts)

Does she even recognize that she is sick in the head? Doesn't she have any true friends to point out how bitter she is? Outside of this site I wouldn't even know sandy vagina existed.

I'm really not seeing anything re her baby-bear. It's as if a howl rose up in terror and was suddenly silenced.

He's been a very naughty boy, the daft cow felt he wasn't getting enough water so upped his intake then wondered why he's pissing on the carpet every 5 mins.

[Kirbmarc]

So a first generation Egyptian-American writes that Muslims don't have a problem assimilating in the US.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... bogus.html

He immediately undermines his thesis by describing his idyllic childhood in a muslim enclave in NJ wherein he went to a muslim school and never met anyone who wasn't a muslim-his only contact with his country's culture being TV. That is until 9/11 when his family put him in public school.

Slate censored my comment on this article. I very politely asked the author if the sister he bragged about having graduated Harvard, still had her clitoris. I said that his Egyptian mother likely did not since Egypt has the highest number of women mutilated. I asked; in light of this, could he see why Americans insisted on a certain degree of assimilation.

Also, the problem with isolated enclaves where the only contact with the culture the country you live in is through media is a big deal.

[free thoughtpolice]

[youtube][/youtube]

[gurugeorge]

To clarify: I don't think Abedin spied on Clinton on behalf of Saudi Arabia, that's ridiculous. Neither I think that she's supporting terrorism.

She's not a Saudi mole, she's a Muslim Brotherhood mole. She doesn't support terrorism, she supports the "good cop" of creeping shariafication of the West, which is the aim of the Muslim Brotherhood.

I don't know if she is, but she sure has suspicious ties. I don't think she's done anything illegal, but still, I'd start asking questions about why someone with so many ties to conservative islam is so close to an allegedly progressive politician.

I'd say her ties aren't just "suspicious" but absolutely disqualifying for someone in her role. But the brave press who have suddenly rediscovered their sacred calling now that Trump's elected, were too scared to say boo to a mouse while a black man was president.

Incidentally, McCarthy did nothing wrong.

McCarthy went too far in accusing people with no evidence before a tribunal. He also trusted very unreliable sources. He did a lot of wrong by acting the way he acted. Had he simply published articles about thoroughly documented suspicious ties of people with Communist/Russia ties he'd have done what the media today do about Trump's supporters ties to Russia. Yes, some people he fingered as commies really were commies, but it doesn't matter when your official investigation is a crapshoot.

I'm not in favor of special tribunals to question people's allegiances. I'm in favor of exposing realities in the media, and of being wary of connections which look suspicious. [/quote]

This is all just part of the mythology the Left has built around him - check the book, also Whittaker Chambers' Witness for some more background. In fact McCarthy's sources were good (he knew about Venona, a project that had cracked some Soviet coded cables, which when revealed in 1995 showed that nearly all the people he accused, and more, were Communists agents or sympathisers), it's just that he couldn't reveal them (because the Venona hack couldn't be revealed at the time) so he had to go on what was publicly available, which wasn't much.

However, at that time, laws put in place in the previous decade by Democrats themselves allowed for someone to be summarily fired from important positions like in the State Department, on even the slightest suspicion of being within a whiff of being even a Communist sympathiser. No "special tribunals" required." McCarthy was doing his patriotic job, but because of the Alger Hiss flap before him, the Democrats had circled the wagons by the time he came on the scene.

The idea that McCarthy was engaged in a "witch hunt" is absurd - a huge, hollow myth that "liberals" have dined out on ever since.

Hey, I used to believe it too. As a young socialist growing up as far away from the events in time and place as Scotland in the 1960s, I "knew" that McCarthy was synonymous with "witch hunt", that he was a buffoon, etc. It turns out that what I "knew" was false, as wrong as wrong can be.

[MarcusAu]

I'm not so sure about McCarthy.

Couldn't the Americans have taken a kinder gentler approach to communist spies - similar to how the British managed it around the same time.

[bhoytony]

fuck off to your semi-literate depression from wench you came.

[Service Dog]

It's smarmy idiocy & shoddy logic like this that has completely fucked the pro-choice cause in the US.

One reason her satire doesn't fire on all cylinders, is =she= isn't firing on all cylinders.

Give her 3 minutes & 45 seconds... and tell me what the heck she's talking-about. I can't make heads or tails of it.

She can't seem to complete a thought. I did catch "misogyny", "Eleanor Roosevelt", and something about her male colleagues not doing their own laundry.

[youtube][/youtube]

[Brive1987]

I'm really not seeing anything re her baby-bear. It's as if a howl rose up in terror and was suddenly silenced.

He's been a very naughty boy, the daft cow felt he wasn't getting enough water so upped his intake then wondered why he's pissing on the carpet every 5 mins.

Did she hook him up to her post binge saline drip? You put a bowl of water down and it drinks when it's thirsty.

Or have I been doing this all wrong? :?

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

*stuff*

Welcome back!

[Guest_b7d12252]

aljazeera dot com/indepth/opinion/2017/03/liberal-roots-islamophobia-170302152226572.html

The liberal roots of Islamophobia

Today's worst Islamophobes are not hailing from the ranks of the far-right movement, instead they claim to be liberals.

...

If you were to ask me who is the single most pestiferous American Islamophobe alive today I will not say Bannon, Michael Flynn, Stephan Miller, or even Gorka, all of them now chief among the career opportunist zealot Crusaders cheering Trump on.

I would say, without a moment of hesitation, Maher and Harris, and before he passed away that careerist Christopher Hitchens, are far more dangerous Stormtrooper lieutenants of Islamophobia.

These liberal Islamophobes are finagling their hatred of Muslims with smiling faces, silly jokes, phony arguments, forced laughter and manufactured consent - with the full cooperation of otherwise perfectly respectable outlets.

Masses of millions of Americans are out demonstrating against those notorious racists gathered around Trump. Maher and Harris are snake oil charmers selling their hate on prime time television.

...

We Muslims are privileged, perhaps we are even destined, to fight for our civil liberties in renewed universal terms - not just for ourselves but for all the other subaltern components of humanity fighting against white supremacy in the US and Europe.

We will emerge from this fight having morally universalised our political particulars. We will face Maher and Bannon face to face, eyeball to eyeball, with our learned humanity against their illiterate barbarity.

Hamid Dabashi is Hagop Kevorkian Professor of Iranian Studies and Comparative Literature at Columbia University in New York.

[Malky]

fuck off to your semi-literate depression from wench you came.

Sorry to be dense about this but as I neither understand the point behind you gif nor as a result Daves comment on it could you explain please?

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

fuck off to your semi-literate depression from wench you came.

Sorry to be dense about this but as I neither understand the point behind you gif nor as a result Daves comment on it could you explain please?

The gif is from the movie Groundhog Day, meaning shit repeats itself on and on and on...

Dave is weird.

[free thoughtpolice]

[youtube][/youtube]

[Kirbmarc]

aljazeera dot com/indepth/opinion/2017/03/liberal-roots-islamophobia-170302152226572.html

I would say, without a moment of hesitation, Maher and Harris, and before he passed away that careerist Christopher Hitchens, are far more dangerous Stormtrooper lieutenants of Islamophobia.

These liberal Islamophobes are finagling their hatred of Muslims with smiling faces, silly jokes, phony arguments, forced laughter and manufactured consent - with the full cooperation of otherwise perfectly respectable outlets.

If only we could ban them all from those respectable outlets, and instead hear sensible people praising the hijab and its feminist value. Because islam is great, 'mright? With no flaws whatsoever, 'mright? And anyone who criticizes it is a stormtrooper, 'mright?

Masses of millions of Americans are out demonstrating against those notorious racists gathered around Trump. Maher and Harris are snake oil charmers selling their hate on prime time television.

"Snake oil charmers" win an award for best mixed metaphor of the year. Are they charming the oil or the snakes? :lol:

We Muslims are privileged, perhaps we are even destined, to fight for our civil liberties in renewed universal terms - not just for ourselves but for all the other subaltern components of humanity fighting against white supremacy in the US and Europe.

Muslims who believe that they're privileged and destined to fight? Never heard that one before.

We will emerge from this fight having morally universalised our political particulars. We will face Maher and Bannon face to face, eyeball to eyeball, with our learned humanity against their illiterate barbarity.

If I wrote about "snake oil charmers" and "universalised particulars" I wouldn't accuse others of being illiterate.

But then again it's always funny to read people writing for the Qatari-owned Al-Jazeera accuse critics of islam of barbarity.

[Kirbmarc]

[.youtube][/youtube]

A perfect metaphor of PZ Myers's career as an atheist blogger.

[Cnutella]

Apparently Melody's triggered meme went international. The following comment was posted on a r/Tumblrinaction thread in response to this pic:

https://i.redd.it/6k25cderj7ly.png

SethTheSpy
Real tranny-truscum harridan

1h

Oh, I have that meme but in Spanish, it says "Patriarcado!" and I use it to trigger my sister's batshit feminazi friend

So I guess Melody did become a feminist icon after all.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5925E7AA

[KiwiInOz]

Kill the cows. Seriously. Get rid of those millions of methane releasers, right now. Punitive tax on cow products.

I am eating/killing all of the cows I can. If you wish to put your money where your mouth is, send me a $100 McDonald's gift certificate to help me out with getting rid of all of the cows I can. PM me for an address.

Not sure how many actual cows go into the burgers at the "fine Scottish restaurant", but the thought of eating $100 of whatever it is boggles the mind.

I did some work for the company that processes the meat and makes the patties, here in Australia. The meat was good quality and the fresh patties looked good. The problem seems to lie with what that fine Scottish establishment then does with said patties.

[Malky]

The gif is from the movie Groundhog Day, meaning shit repeats itself on and on and on...

Dave is weird.

Thanks Phil makes sense now

[Hunt]

Ralph Nader.... Sure he was and still is a good guy; he's done a lot of good; the world is a better place for him being here.

Ralph Nader is and always has been an obnoxious, egomaniacal prick. He first became famous with Unsafe At Any Speed, a scare-mongering polemic filled with misinformation and hyperbole. He parlayed that into the role of Official Social Justice Crusader™, pushing himself into the limelight and taking credit for causes and campaigns to which he was ever the Johnny-come-lately. While blathering on about workers' rights, he exploited and abused his own employees. His presidential runs were all about his ego. Like his petulant, iconoclastic supporters (including last year's 'Bernie Bro's') he indulges eschatological fantasies about instant-pudding revolution, and in classic proglodyte fashion, directs all his energies at tearing down those to the immediate right of him on the political spectrum -- the moderate liberals -- in the process aiding & abetting the far right.

Fuck Ralph Nader sideways with a rusty Corvair.

I drove a Corvair for two years. It wasn't unsafe at any speed, but it definitely was at 35, when I turned an outside corner on a slightly wet street, lost all traction and plowed into an oncoming car, nearly killing the driver.

[Hunt]

Very short version of my position: I don't want Clinton in jail but I don't want her to stay in politics, either. After the last election fiasco she should have retired.

Clinton kind of has an obligation to GTFO of politics. It's kind of like Ralph Nader, post 2000 elections. Sure he was and still is a good guy; he's done a lot of good; the world is a better place for him being here. But...he's also probably the reason we suffered though eight years of Bush, and people never forgot that. How much have you heard from Nader in the last 17 years? Not much. That's the way it should be with both Clintons. We should be done with them. They had their day. Let's move on. We'll never know whether Clinton, insisting on her shot at president, is the reason we don't have President Sanders right now, but the serious possibility has dawned on a lot of people.

There is a third Clinton, who I'm certain will be entering politics. And she has a face like a horse.

Yoda never told me that.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Cars are shit.

Bikes are cool.

Deal with it.


(Also, live long and prosper)

[Lsuoma]

There is a third Clinton, who I'm certain will be entering politics. And she has a face like a horse.

Yoda never told me that.

Nevertheless, certain he was.

[katamari Damassi]

Ralph Nader.... Sure he was and still is a good guy; he's done a lot of good; the world is a better place for him being here.

Ralph Nader is and always has been an obnoxious, egomaniacal prick. He first became famous with Unsafe At Any Speed, a scare-mongering polemic filled with misinformation and hyperbole. He parlayed that into the role of Official Social Justice Crusader™, pushing himself into the limelight and taking credit for causes and campaigns to which he was ever the Johnny-come-lately. While blathering on about workers' rights, he exploited and abused his own employees. His presidential runs were all about his ego. Like his petulant, iconoclastic supporters (including last year's 'Bernie Bro's') he indulges eschatological fantasies about instant-pudding revolution, and in classic proglodyte fashion, directs all his energies at tearing down those to the immediate right of him on the political spectrum -- the moderate liberals -- in the process aiding & abetting the far right.

Fuck Ralph Nader sideways with a rusty Corvair.

I've got mixed feelings about Ralph, neither Satan nor saviour. In the 80's I was in one of his campus organizations-New York Public Interest Research Group. It was a good organization doing activism mostly through public education about consumer issues and government policy. It did attract proto-SJW types and radical hippie wannabees, but the activism was not exciting and they quickly dropped out. A year later I transferred to a new school and tried to get involved in their chapter. They had one of those hippie wannabees running it. Their idea of activism was to squirt glue into the locks of the ROTC lockers. I didn't stick around.

[katamari Damassi]

There is a third Clinton, who I'm certain will be entering politics. And she has a face like a horse.

Yoda never told me that.

The Clinton he spoke of is your sister.

[heddle]

Ralph Nader.... Sure he was and still is a good guy; he's done a lot of good; the world is a better place for him being here.

Ralph Nader is and always has been an obnoxious, egomaniacal prick. He first became famous with Unsafe At Any Speed, a scare-mongering polemic filled with misinformation and hyperbole. He parlayed that into the role of Official Social Justice Crusader™, pushing himself into the limelight and taking credit for causes and campaigns to which he was ever the Johnny-come-lately. While blathering on about workers' rights, he exploited and abused his own employees. His presidential runs were all about his ego. Like his petulant, iconoclastic supporters (including last year's 'Bernie Bro's') he indulges eschatological fantasies about instant-pudding revolution, and in classic proglodyte fashion, directs all his energies at tearing down those to the immediate right of him on the political spectrum -- the moderate liberals -- in the process aiding & abetting the far right.

Fuck Ralph Nader sideways with a rusty Corvair.

Spot on. The Corvair, with its awsome air-cooled flat-6, was a beautiful car (I'd kill to have one--but in a Christian manner.) Chevrolet had the early lead in small cars and Nader killed it--we'd never get it back. Our next entries, too late and too awful, were the Chevy Vega (its block had a tendency to melt if the car idled too long) and the Pinto--which had the sole virtue of being amusing. (Back in about '95 a French graduate student shared my office at Jefferson Lab. He had a Pinto--maybe the last one in Virginia. He got a property tax bill on the Pinto--it was $1. Except he was late and was penalized 10%)

[Steersman]

<snip>

Also:

"It got me thinking, maybe what's good for the goose is good for the gander," Ms Farrar told the BBC. "If we are taking these measures because of the sanctity of life, well, we just cannot waste any seed."

I think we've doxxed Steersman's girlfriend. :lol:

:-)

Though if I'm not mistaken, and if someone else hasn't pointed it out, I think her analogy falls flat on its face right out of the chute: eggs & sperm are gametes and aren't autonomous or unique entities; zygotes - fertilized eggs - are. Entirely different kettles of fish. Seems her knowledge of biology is rather lacking.

[Shatterface]

Cars are shit.

Bikes are cool.

Deal with it.


(Also, live long and prosper)

Four wheels good. Two wheels bad.

[Steersman]

[.youtube][/youtube]

Just for you, or you in particular since I know you love Alex Jones and are ready, willing, and able to look at both sides of any issue ... ;-)

[Shatterface]

First time I heard of Ralph Nader was in Greg Bear's classic 'hard sf' novel Eon back in the Eighties. Nader had inspired a political movement, the Naderires, though he had been killed in a nuclear war.

[Shatterface]

Naderites, that is.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

He's been a very naughty boy, the daft cow felt he wasn't getting enough water so upped his intake then wondered why he's pissing on the carpet every 5 mins.

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It does if you are a despicable piece of scum who has no right owning an animal.

I pity the poor beast. I will liberate him if I see him this week.

[free thoughtpolice]

Just for you, or you in particular since I know you love Alex Jones and are ready, willing, and able to look at both sides of any issue ... ;-)

Stop it with the rumors , everyone knows my heart belongs to Jenny McDermott. :romance-admire:
[youtube][/youtube]

[Matt Cavanaugh]

It's smarmy idiocy & shoddy logic like this that has completely fucked the pro-choice cause in the US.

One reason her satire doesn't fire on all cylinders, is =she= isn't firing on all cylinders.

Give her 3 minutes & 45 seconds... and tell me what the heck she's talking-about. I can't make heads or tails of it.

She can't seem to complete a thought. I did catch "misogyny", "Eleanor Roosevelt", and something about her male colleagues not doing their own laundry.

[youtube][/youtube]

I've heard clearer & more persuasive presentation before.

[youtube][/youtube]

[youtube][/youtube]

[Shatterface]

He's been a very naughty boy, the daft cow felt he wasn't getting enough water so upped his intake then wondered why he's pissing on the carpet every 5 mins.

skank puppy.png

It does if you are a despicable piece of scum who has no right owning an animal.

I pity the poor beast. I will liberate him if I see him this week.

You don't need to scream NOOOO FUCK FUCK FUCK three times when feminism tells us an absence of enthusiastic consent is clear enough.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Fuck Ralph Nader sideways with a rusty Corvair.

Spot on. The Corvair, with its awsome air-cooled flat-6, was a beautiful car (I'd kill to have one--but in a Christian manner.) Chevrolet had the early lead in small cars and Nader killed it--we'd never get it back.

Hey, my folks were in their Corvair when they got T-boned by a drunk driver. My mom was pregnant with me at the time, and I turned out OK. :twatson:

[HunnyBunny]

Muscato, who recently proclaimed that some women have penises and if you don't like it you can 'suck my dick', is living in a women's shelter:

The former PR manager for American Atheists is living in a Catholic shelter. Well done Dave, winning at life all the way.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Muscato, who recently proclaimed that some women have penises and if you don't like it you can 'suck my dick', is living in a women's shelter:

[tweet]

The former PR manager for American Atheists is living in a Catholic shelter. Well done Dave, winning at life all the way.

Equally worrying that the Kaeley woman is publicly pointing out the address of a women's shelter.

[Aneris]

Interesting second Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson discussion, announced as about “science, religion, archetypes, mythology, and the perennial problem of finding meaning in life.” I'm almost halfway through, and Jordan Peterson brought up Jungian archetypes or the Monomyth, which are interesting subjects I have studied.

In terms of science, there is not really a place for abstract series-of-events that are near universal, and which can be packaged into story form. On the highest abstraction, the monomyth is very close to the essentials of human nature. You think you're the protagonist in your life. You learn to understand your environment, which gives you a sense of security, and which you don't really want to leave, a comfort zone. But circumstances demand that you explore the unknown, and go out there, which appears in your cognition as a discrete step which often is announced in some way (another archetype, the herald, and in reality can be a rumbling stomach, invitation for a job interview, etc). Going into the unknown confront you with fears, and obstacles, both your own inner life as well as with whatever dangers are out there. You need to overcome these obstacles, both inside and outside, then return with the boon. The things that oppose you are the archetype of the shadow, which is n a very real sense a distorted version of yourself, that also easily represent darkness (which is the ultimate unknown, and danger).

What you encountered might have changed you in such a way that you return as a different person, which involves that your old self had to die somewhere on the adventure. That bit might be the most unintuitive about it, but it is actually also an everyday experience. It's not just the broken war veteran that returns and struggles, but also the feeling when you lived abroad or in a big city and you return to your own small town where nothing has changed, and you just cannot fit in anymore. You just cannot bear the chatter for long about sports, health problems, the weather, and other mundane things. It's the ordinary realisation that once you changed, you can never go back. That change of a person as rendered as death and rebirth is a feature of many old systems, and it makes a lot sense. We only notice gradual change once it progressed enough, and then easily build categories based on the contrasts. Day and night, for example, is extremely easy to conceptualize.

Most, if not everything about it, makes perfect sense from a cognitive and evolutionary point of view. But the story itself has no place that makes it scientific. It's true, and yet, what can you do with it? You can package it in all sorts of metaphors, just as this framework above is already itself described in abstract metaphors (e.g. a hero is a highly abstract concept, just like boon, obstacles, comfort zones etc). If you make it concrete, you have your story, whether it is The Devil Wears Prada or Star Wars. It works, supposedly because it is universally familiar, and yet the details are different enough providing an opportunity to learn something (as far as the unconcious mind is concerned). The monomyth formula might even be the template for a supernormal stimulus.

But what does it say about religion, or science? Nothing. I'll now hear how and if Peterson and Harris resolve it from there.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Muscato, who recently proclaimed that some women have penises and if you don't like it you can 'suck my dick', is living in a women's shelter:

[tweet]

[tweet]

The former PR manager for American Atheists is living in a Catholic shelter. Well done Dave, winning at life all the way.

Equally worrying that the Kaeley woman is publicly pointing out the address of a women's shelter.

My bad, this place is open about its location.

[HunnyBunny]

Muscato, who recently proclaimed that some women have penises and if you don't like it you can 'suck my dick', is living in a women's shelter:

.[tweet]

[.tweet][/tweet]

The former PR manager for American Atheists is living in a Catholic shelter. Well done Dave, winning at life all the way.

Equally worrying that the Kaeley woman is publicly pointing out the address of a women's shelter.

The address is on their website, it is a shelter for homeless women, not specifically domestic violence shelter.

[Aneris]

Interesting second Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson discussion, announced as about “science, religion, archetypes, mythology, and the perennial problem of finding meaning in life.” I'm almost halfway through...

Now they're getting to the interesting bits:


If you're interested in comments from different perspectives, this is the same on Jordan's channel. I used it for the timestamp.

[Shatterface]

If you wanted to invent a transgender person so fractally ridiculous that they would discredit transgenderism entirely you'd come up with someone exactly like Danielle Muscato.

He's an abolute clusterfuck.

So women fleeing abusive relationships have to live with some brainwreck hiding from what, his lesbian partner?

[Tigzy]

If you wanted to invent a transgender person so fractally ridiculous that they would discredit transgenderism entirely you'd come up with someone exactly like Danielle Muscato.

He's an abolute clusterfuck.

So women fleeing abusive relationships have to live with some brainwreck hiding from what, his lesbian partner?

Imagine it. You're a woman, finally believing you've found some sanctuary from an abusive psycho of a bloke. Then you find a bearded, tattooed fat man strolling around your dorm. 'It's okay,' he booms, grinning. 'I'm a girl too!'

[Shatterface]

If you wanted to invent a transgender person so fractally ridiculous that they would discredit transgenderism entirely you'd come up with someone exactly like Danielle Muscato.

He's an abolute clusterfuck.

So women fleeing abusive relationships have to live with some brainwreck hiding from what, his lesbian partner?

Imagine it. You're a woman, finally believing you've found some sanctuary from an abusive psycho of a bloke. Then you find a bearded, tattooed fat man strolling around your dorm. 'It's okay,' he booms, grinning. 'I'm a girl too!'

The reason Julie Bindel became openly critical of transwomen was because of a case where a transwoman won a court case because she wanted to be a rape councillor. This isn't just bathrooms or sport or any of that bollocks, this is a sense of entitlement that allows an assumed sense of identity to trump other people's trauma.

[Steersman]

If you wanted to invent a transgender person so fractally ridiculous that they would discredit transgenderism entirely you'd come up with someone exactly like Danielle Muscato.

He's an abolute clusterfuck.

So women fleeing abusive relationships have to live with some brainwreck hiding from what, his lesbian partner?

"He", indeed. He and his ilk should be ridiculed to within an inch of their lives, laughed off the world's stage:

While one might argue, at a stretch ..., that Trump has a wart or two, there's some evidence that he's prepared to drain that part of the swamp too.

[CommanderTuvok]

Danielle Muscato (or "Muskrato", because I've heard rumours of a SERIOUS BO problem) is a good example of how someone can quickly go off the rails when they are infected by the SJW clap infection.

Further, I know PZ MYers is reading this.....hey PZ.....go lather up a fucking octopus and go fuck yourself with it. Get squishy you fucking pervert. Go on, fuck off you cunt.

[Steersman]

He's been a very naughty boy, the daft cow felt he wasn't getting enough water so upped his intake then wondered why he's pissing on the carpet every 5 mins.

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It does if you are a despicable piece of scum who has no right owning an animal.

I pity the poor beast. I will liberate him if I see him this week.

Speaking of a dog's life, or at least one somewhat luckier or happier than Watson's ...

[CommanderTuvok]

If you wanted to invent a transgender person so fractally ridiculous that they would discredit transgenderism entirely you'd come up with someone exactly like Danielle Muscato.

He's an abolute clusterfuck.

So women fleeing abusive relationships have to live with some brainwreck hiding from what, his lesbian partner?

Imagine it. You're a woman, finally believing you've found some sanctuary from an abusive psycho of a bloke. Then you find a bearded, tattooed fat man strolling around your dorm. 'It's okay,' he booms, grinning. 'I'm a girl too!'

The reason Julie Bindel became openly critical of transwomen was because of a case where a transwoman won a court case because she wanted to be a rape councillor. This isn't just bathrooms or sport or any of that bollocks, this is a sense of entitlement that allows an assumed sense of identity to trump other people's trauma.

Bindel is one of those mouthy second-wave feminists, isn't she? The ones who SJWs hate. Guess who seems to be a BFF with Bindel these days? Yup. The transphobe Ophelia Benson! :lol:

[Steersman]

Interesting second Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson discussion, announced as about “science, religion, archetypes, mythology, and the perennial problem of finding meaning in life.” I'm almost halfway through, and Jordan Peterson brought up Jungian archetypes or the Monomyth, which are interesting subjects I have studied. ...

Looks interesting, although I wish that Harris would consider making transcripts - much easier and quicker to get the essence of a discussion ....

But what does it say about religion, or science? Nothing. I'll now hear how and if Peterson and Harris resolve it from there.

Definitely an interesting question, particularly the religion part, although one might consider them similar to the extent that they both attempt to explain and manage our place or role in the universe. Interesting too that a central feature of many religions - Christianity and Islam in particular - is the promise of eternal life, even if many apparently haven't given much thought to the problems it might entail. As one aphorism has it, "against boredom, the gods themselves struggle in vain". And Mark Twain, I think, said something to the effect that those most desiring eternal life don't know what to do with a rainy Sunday afternoon.

In any case, you might check out a post by John Hartung (anthropologist, quoted in Dawkins' TGD; Prospects For Existence: Morality and Genetic Engineering) where he rather correctly and cogently observed:

Ways and means are not the issue. The question remains, ways and means to what?

One might suggest that "we" are sadly lacking in vision, that that ability hasn't evolved, analogously, much beyond pit eyes.

[Guest_b7d12252]

The reason Julie Bindel became openly critical of transwomen was because of a case where a transwoman won a court case because she wanted to be a rape councillor. This isn't just bathrooms or sport or any of that bollocks, this is a sense of entitlement that allows an assumed sense of identity to trump other people's trauma.

Not to go full Tom Cruise, but 99% of therapists are full of shit and probably dangerous in exactly the above manner.

Women can be raped.
Men can be raped.
Transfolk can be raped.

Why should we keep a transperson from being just as full of shit and probably dangerous as any cis woman (or man)?