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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
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wmdkitty couldn't make $10 on a dock full of syphilitic sailors.
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Bravo, sir. :lol: :clap:
I'll share my link if you share yours.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/foxyfolklo ... ving-body/
From your link:
I’ve written a bit about my own body image struggles, such as how wearing certain kinds of outfits helps me feel better about my body. To some degree, this is a normal body art practice; the self is the first audience, and we generally want to wear what makes us feel/look good.
How the hell do these people type this shit with a straight face? They call this scholarship.

Wait, so clothing can affect how a person feels about their body? If someone is overweight, cramming their body into ill-fitting clothing can make them feel bad? If a woman is slim, she can feel good if she slips into a perfectly fitted dress?

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The Regressive Left Pravda Huffington Post has published an article which tries to argue that Muslims who wear the veil are the Real Feminists while the Western sluts white feminists who promote "Free the Nipple" are victims of Internalized Patriarchy

Jerry Coyne disagrees.

I don't like Trump or the rise of the ethno-state supporters, but at the end of the day it's hard for me to care about an incompetent buffoon who says the first thing that passes into his mind or about a bunch of idiots who want to see only people with their skin color in their country when non-insignificant parts of Left, which is supposed to care about progress and individual rights, sides with the worst of reactionary islam and sells out all of its values in the name of "cultural diversity".

Idiots and cunts are something we can deal with. Abandoning the founding principles of liberal democracy, like body autonomy a, just for the sake of being multicultural is another matter. I hope the saner parts of the Left can isolate and crush the Regressives as soon as possible.

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I wonder if they will start to have second thoughts when people start to put forward the islamic case against abortion.

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MarcusAu wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: Looks more like a hexapus to me.
Did we ever discuss the spider here?

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David Thorne wrote:Also, your inference that I am without religion is incorrect and I am actually torn between two faiths; while your god's promise of eternal life is very persuasive, the Papua New Guinean mud god, Pikkiwoki, is promising a pig and as many coconuts as you can carry.
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MarcusAu wrote:I wonder if they will start to have second thoughts when people start to put forward the islamic case against abortion.
It's really worth pushing the Linda Sarsours of this world on that question.

Mind you, abortion is only an issue for womb-bearers so it's low on 21st Century feminism's priorities.

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MarcusAu wrote:I wonder if they will start to have second thoughts when people start to put forward the islamic case against abortion.
The islamic case of favouring FGM, or at least condoning it, did not seem to move them one bit.

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This been posted yet?
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Shatterface wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:I wonder if they will start to have second thoughts when people start to put forward the islamic case against abortion.
It's really worth pushing the Linda Sarsours of this world on that question.

Mind you, abortion is only an issue for womb-bearers so it's low on 21st Century feminism's priorities.
I wonder if anyone ever told Danielle Muscato the facts of life - I'm sure it will come as rather a shock to find out where babies come from.

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Really? wrote: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/foxyfolklo ... ving-body/

From your link:
I’ve written a bit about my own body image struggles, such as how wearing certain kinds of outfits helps me feel better about my body. To some degree, this is a normal body art practice; the self is the first audience, and we generally want to wear what makes us feel/look good.
How the hell do these people type this shit with a straight face? They call this scholarship.
She's a homely, bisexual swinger. A sex-liberation advocate who nevertheless drags around her own seaman's bag full of sexual hang-ups. An encysted strongyle within the bowels of academia, interpreting fairy tales and teaching expressive dance.

.. and one of the faces of #normalizeatheism!

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Have they not yet twigged that 'normalize' is an offensive term.

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MarcusAu wrote:I wonder if they will start to have second thoughts when people start to put forward the islamic case against abortion.
I think the islamic way is whatever your husband wants - an abortion or a baby - just ask him what to do. Feminists will go along with it because if they don't, they're waaaaaacist.

Check out this assistant principal picking on some Christian kids who are legally protesting (agree or not doesn't matter) against abortion. He's resigned now, because this has come out. If the kids were any other religion or non-white, there's no way he'd have made an embarrassing scene like this:

Assistant Principal of a Top Ranked School Yells at Students - FULL 18 MINUTE VIDEO
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Why the fuck has shatterface got x8 BPE's. Obvious favoritism is obvious. Rebel against this corrupt autocracy!

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Scented Nectar and John D have convinced me to believe what Trump says and ignore his critics because he would never lie, make things up, and never gets things wrong but would definitely own up if he did.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/ ... ttle-trnd/
And the MSM are all communists that have an irrational hate of Russia because they rejected communism for democracy and free enterprise. :liar:

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Za-zen wrote:Why the fuck has shatterface got x8 BPE's. Obvious favoritism is obvious. Rebel against this corrupt autocracy!
It's infinity. I just couldn't be arsed to dig out a symbol that would work with my graphics program.

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Za-zen wrote:Why the fuck has shatterface got x8 BPE's. Obvious favoritism is obvious. Rebel against this corrupt autocracy!
You haven't seen me in a tight skirt.

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Shatterface wrote:
Za-zen wrote:Why the fuck has shatterface got x8 BPE's. Obvious favoritism is obvious. Rebel against this corrupt autocracy!
You haven't seen me in a tight skirt.
pics or it didn't happen

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MarcusAu wrote:It's always about Cthulhu, giant squid and kraken get no love (at least from most people).

Has anyone read Kraken by China Mieville?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... _cover.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraken_(novel)

It's a fun story of London, giant squid and the end of the world.

Yes I've read this agree it's a really good novel. One of his I really liked was the City and The City = also well worth a read.

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Late to the party, but if we're slagging off Scotland, It doesn't get much better than Rick Dagless, MD:

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I thought we all might need some cultural enrichment today.

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Really? wrote:I thought we all might need some cultural enrichment today.

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This is the right way for towelheads to use hammers:
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Lsuoma wrote:This been posted yet?
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Praise KeK. We should commit the slymepit battalion in it's war of memeration.

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Lsuoma wrote:
Really? wrote:I thought we all might need some cultural enrichment today.

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This is the right way for towelheads to use hammers:
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Oh, I've seen that before. It's footage from a new Muslim Studies class at Berkeley.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:Scented Nectar and John D have convinced me to believe what Trump says and ignore his critics because he would never lie, make things up, and never gets things wrong but would definitely own up if he did.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/ ... ttle-trnd/
And the MSM are all communists that have an irrational hate of Russia because they rejected communism for democracy and free enterprise. :liar:
Jesus fucking Christ! When did I ever say that Trump was honest? Pay attention. That fucker is a complete ass-hole and every other thing he says is a lie. He's a fucking actor.

What amazes me is that people like you (and every fucking nit-wit in the media) think Trump should tell the truth. He doesn't tell the truth in public. Get over it. He has no desire to change and never will change. THIS IS NOT A STORY. It's fucking amazing that every fucking day the media talks about Trump's behavior.... even though it has NEVER CHANGED. Honestly... there is a kind of group retard thing going on. All you have to do is read one or two chapters from his book.... He uses "plausible hyperbole." Only an idiot would not realize this.

I am a bit shocked that, even though Trump has written many books about his "style" everyone is mystified by him. Fucking idiots... every one of the pundits.

I do however find it super entertaining to watch the talking head pundits lose their shit over Trump. It is like they are yacking on the TV while they just piss themselves in front of you. Sale of depends is probably way up for these stooges. Pompous useless pretty talking heads.

Now what I do expect is that Trump can be pretty clever when making deals with people. He knows how to push people's buttons. He is a schmoozer. Schmoozer-in-chief. This is why he doesn't like the little details in running the government. He has a team of people who are competent to run things and he expects them to deliver. If they don't deliver they get fired... like Flinn and Comey.

People say... "Well John D.... don't you think the President should know everything going on in the government?" My answer is no. If I ran that billion dollar bureaucracy I would do what Trump is doing. I would hire experienced people and then tell them not to fuck up.

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John D wrote:It's fucking amazing that every fucking day the media talks about Trump's behavior.... even though it has NEVER CHANGED.
Kinda like how the Pit criticizes a bunch of people who are exactly as mendacious as they were four years ago. Should we stop because we're not getting through to them? Or maybe that was never the point in the first place.

John D wrote:All you have to do is read one or two chapters from his book.... He uses "plausible hyperbole." Only an idiot would not realize this.
The term is "truthful hyperbole," which is an oxymoron, and he didn't come up with it.

He's not clever. Not even in the broadest most charitable sense of that word.

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MarcusAu wrote:I wonder if they will start to have second thoughts when people start to put forward the islamic case against abortion.

I expect it'll go along the same lines as in the Islamic case for grooming, raping and pimping underage girls in towns & cities across England.

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Really? wrote:I thought we all might need some cultural enrichment today.
Salafis use hammers. Shias use screwdrivers. This schism has caused chaos in the Middle East.

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John D wrote:
Sunder wrote:
John D wrote: If Obama would have done it, no one would have reported on it. The media thought the world of magical Barry and gave him the benefit of the doubt on everything. Also, the MSM was always worried about bashing the "black" president so they went easy on him. The media gets monster hits and clicks for Trump bashing so Trump is automatically evil. Afterall.... Trump is a rich white dood and therefor must be evil.
If only there was some sort of, I don't know, right-leaning media to report on everything from Obama mispronouncing corpsman to what kind of sauce he enjoys on his burgers.

Alas.
Yeah... point taken. Part of my problem is that all the news sources I used to pay attention to are turning to shit. I actually now find myself turning on fucking "Patriot Radio" and listening to Dennis Prager. WTF? Sometimes he makes more sense than NPR. But really, they are both shit and are just pandering to the vast number of Americans too stupid to figure out the truth.

And, as I have said before. I am all in favor of a government that gets almost nothing done. Activist governments (on the left or right) will only hurt me personally. So... Let the games continue.... and I will get a good laugh out of it!
I would suspect that in the USA if you want a good news source you would be better off listening to overseas news services - even Al Jazeera would be better than the home grown shit you have.

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John D wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:Scented Nectar and John D have convinced me to believe what Trump says and ignore his critics because he would never lie, make things up, and never gets things wrong but would definitely own up if he did.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/ ... ttle-trnd/
And the MSM are all communists that have an irrational hate of Russia because they rejected communism for democracy and free enterprise. :liar:
Jesus fucking Christ! When did I ever say that Trump was honest? Pay attention. That fucker is a complete ass-hole and every other thing he says is a lie. He's a fucking actor.
I'd say con man, but it's a matter of definitions.
What amazes me is that people like you (and every fucking nit-wit in the media) think Trump should tell the truth. He doesn't tell the truth in public. Get over it. He has no desire to change and never will change. THIS IS NOT A STORY. It's fucking amazing that every fucking day the media talks about Trump's behavior.... even though it has NEVER CHANGED. Honestly... there is a kind of group retard thing going on. All you have to do is read one or two chapters from his book.... He uses "plausible hyperbole." Only an idiot would not realize this.
I get that Trump is deliberately exaggerating and bragging to troll people. It's a very good sales pitch,and it drives many of his critics insane, but do you think that this is also a good way to run a country?
Now what I do expect is that Trump can be pretty clever when making deals with people. He knows how to push people's buttons. He is a schmoozer. Schmoozer-in-chief. This is why he doesn't like the little details in running the government. He has a team of people who are competent to run things and he expects them to deliver. If they don't deliver they get fired... like Flinn and Comey.
I think Trump is actually very good at selling his brand and enriching himself. He's shitty at delivering anything useful (see Trump Steak, Trump University, Trump Casino, etc.). He's running a con, and you're right, he knows how to push people's buttons. But here the thing: the US aren't Trump, Inc. They're a country, which should be ran for the good of its citizens, not for the interests of Donald Trump. Also running a country isn't the same thing as running a business. It's one thing to be good at impressing business partners through bragging and shows of force, another to deal with international politics, where fine details matter and being a schmoozer and good salesman isn't always the best choice.
People say... "Well John D.... don't you think the President should know everything going on in the government?" My answer is no. If I ran that billion dollar bureaucracy I would do what Trump is doing. I would hire experienced people and then tell them not to fuck up.
Delegating responsibilities is a smart choice, but you need to listen to the experts you're hiring and consult with them before you try things you're not prepared for. Otherwise you'll be the one who fucks up.

This is what happened in the case of the accidental leak of information to Russia. Trump doesn't have experience in working in intelligence, so he didn't realize he might reveal information which the Russians might use to acquire more information. There's nothing wrong with being a president and not knowing all the finer details of the investigations of your intelligence services, but you should at the very least listen to your intelligence experts before you discuss those investigations with the representatives of a foreign power.

Running a country isn't the same thing as running a business.

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Chuck Norris meets with Utah fans, says he’d accept job as FBI leader if America needs him

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Shatterface wrote:Chuck Norris meets with Utah fans, says he’d accept job as FBI leader if America needs him

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The latest... the leaker leaked more than Trump actually talked about during the meeting. The whitehouse is freaking out. The extra info was indeed classified and the leak has jeopardized some people. They are scrambling to fix that. They had to blast the tv in the press room so that the press wouldn't overhear the yelling after it started.

Mike Cernovich has a live stream. The link is temporary right now, but you can still rewind to the beginning while it's up and it'll stay up for a while after it's done. It's at:
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The permanent copy will be posted later sometime at:
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Kirbmarc wrote: This is what happened in the case of the accidental leak of information to Russia. Trump doesn't have experience in working in intelligence, so he didn't realize he might reveal information which the Russians might use to acquire more information. There's nothing wrong with being a president and not knowing all the finer details of the investigations of your intelligence services, but you should at the very least listen to your intelligence experts before you discuss those investigations with the representatives of a foreign power.

Running a country isn't the same thing as running a business.
This is all fine and good except that McMaster just announced he was in the room and no secrets were divulged. So, either that aspie worm of a reporter at WaPo shows some evidence of something, or I call BS on this whole story. Why do you assume this story is true? You believe this story because some geek wanna-be reporter put it in fucking WaPo? Really? Now who is being less than skeptical?

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Jesus fucking Christ! When did I ever say that Trump was honest? Pay attention. That fucker is a complete ass-hole and every other thing he says is a lie. He's a fucking actor.
Actually it was Scented Nectar that says she believed what Trump said about himself and out of hand dismissed his critics. Basically what you have done is mainly just dismiss his critics out of hand and minimize his blunders.
Some faggot commie Harvard professor was on the news talking about how Trump firing Comey was a "Constitutional Crisis"... haha. WTF. Trump can fire the dood if he wants. If the Senate wants to try to impreach him go for it. There is nothing linking Trump to Russian hacking. It really is fake news. Fantastic!

The worm that reported the "leaked confidential info" story is an aspie little nerd who just got some rumor that some foreign government had a bitch with Trump. Are you kidding me? They all hate Trump and they get eyeballs and clicks for every shitty little grumble. All mighty on-high Obama could do and say about anything and there was no reporting. The media and the progressive leftist uni profs fawned over that fucker. Come-on ... this was reported in Wapo.... which is one step away from Mother Jones.
Firing Comey doesn't constitute a constitutional crisis unless it can shown to be obstructing justice however that isn't the whole story.
He didn't come up with a consistent good reason for the firing of someone that was heading the investigation of his people and possibly him. He reportedly asked for personal loyalty (improper) and admits to asking whether he was under investigation which is close to the line on being illegal. Then you confidently state that Trump has no association with the Russian hacking and that is all false news even though he came out and asked for more leaks on Clinton during the campaign.
Then when he has apparently given details of a friendly country's source that could id their agent and give it to Russia (ally of Syria and Iran) you want to shoot the messenger and give a Kellyanne Conway diversionary talking point like "but Obama did bad stuff". This story isn't just reported by Wapo, it's in every major news source. I'm guessing you are going to buy the Fox Newsversion and ignore everyone else because they are all homo lefty types.

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This just turned up in my youtube feed...

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...I'm slightly freaked...

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Scented Nectar wrote:
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MarcusAu wrote:Please Steersman enough.

Those metaphors have been mixed, blended, chopped, diced, sliced and pureed.

I'm not sure I can take any more.
:lol: Sorry about that chief. I do try to add some "fibre" to my comments by way of multiple links to sources, but when boilerplate is close at hand and an accurate summation of an issue, it seems unreasonable to not use it.
Don't count on bird in your hand being better than 2 in a bush, until they've hatched!

I couldn't resist! :lol:
:-) But a reference to the argument that sometimes one in the bush is worth two in the hand? ;-)

In any case, en passant and since I'm getting chastised severely about the ears for my predilection for cliches, a partial set of lyrics to Allan Sherman's Signs:
No checks cashed,
Make deliveries in the rear.
Shake well before using.
This end up, my dear.

Close cover before striking.
Do not push, do not shove.
No shorts in the dining room.
Dump no rubbish, my love.
(Don't be a fool, don't be a fool, my love.)
Couldn't find a YouTube video of it, although there's this collection of his songs that sound amusing, and that may well include that one:

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But, dotting the eyes and crossing the tees ;-)
No Escaping the Cliché: The Legacy of Allan Sherman – By Stephen J. Whitfield

In the early 1960s Allan Sherman turned a minor comic art — the song parody — into a showbiz phenomenon. Between the fall of 1962 and the summer of 1963, he released three long-playing albums: My Son, The Folk Singer; then My Son, The Celebrity; and finally My Son, The Nut. All three went gold (the highest standard in the recording industry), racking up total sales of over three million copies. ....

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Not sure what's weirder - Leftists cosying up to Islamic homophobes or Rightists celebrating gay sex on TV because it'll piss off Muslims.

Can you imagine this appearing at Breitbart a couple of years back??
The third episode of American Gods, titled “The Secret of Snow,” saw Omani salesman Salim (Omid Abtahi) and The Jinn (Mousa Kraish) engaged in a nearly four-minute sex scene complete with full-frontal male nudity and CGI semen.

But according to showrunner Bryan Fuller, the scene required re-shoots because the first cut didn’t accurately capture the mechanics of gay sex.

“I was like, ‘Okay, unless he has a 12-inch, candy-cane c*ck and can f*ck around corners, his d*ck’s not getting in him,” Fuller said of his reaction to the initial cut, according to Vulture. “So you guys need to go back and figure out where holes are.”
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“We felt like the djinn, in this romantic gesture, wanted to give him a more intimate sexual experience,” Fuller said of the mythical Islamic supernatural creature in the sex scene. “We wanted it to be incredibly visual and gorgeous. We wanted those things not to be lurid, but to be beautiful and captivating and for heterosexuals to watch the love scene between these two men and not go ‘Ew,’ but go, ‘That’s gorgeous.'”
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Fuller told Vulture he was pleased with the way the scene ultimately turned out.

“I hope there are Middle Eastern young men masturbating to that scene,” he said.
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MarcusAu wrote:This just turned up in my youtube feed...

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Fallout sure have improved their graphics. Would definitely buy.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:This story isn't just reported by Wapo, it's in every major news source. I'm guessing you are going to buy the Fox Newsversion and ignore everyone else because they are all homo lefty types.
The original source is only in a WaPo article. All the other news sources are simply reporting on this one report in WaPo. Even Fox is covering this story, and with the same narrative as most other news sources.

Trump can fire Comey for ANY REASON. He works for Trump. There is no Constitutional question here. It does not matter if the FBI is investigating Trump or not.

Now, maybe Trump does have some super-secret nefarious Russia relationship. This is why there is a Senate investigation.

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feathers wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:We are talking Alison right? Not Becca. Though neither achieved real success. Alison was the million dollar challenge barrel girl. Becky was a skeptic hero in a James Holmes kind of way.
James Holmes?
Truthful hyperbole.

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John D wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote: This is what happened in the case of the accidental leak of information to Russia. Trump doesn't have experience in working in intelligence, so he didn't realize he might reveal information which the Russians might use to acquire more information. There's nothing wrong with being a president and not knowing all the finer details of the investigations of your intelligence services, but you should at the very least listen to your intelligence experts before you discuss those investigations with the representatives of a foreign power.

Running a country isn't the same thing as running a business.
This is all fine and good except that McMaster just announced he was in the room and no secrets were divulged. So, either that aspie worm of a reporter at WaPo shows some evidence of something, or I call BS on this whole story. Why do you assume this story is true? You believe this story because some geek wanna-be reporter put it in fucking WaPo? Really? Now who is being less than skeptical?
I'm not necessarily assuming that the story is true, just noting that a)McMaster didn't deny what was alleged, namely that Trump divulged classified information, he only denied that Trump divulged the methods or sources of intelligence, or any military operation that hadn't been already made public and also b) McMaster refused to answer to any further question on the subject.

The core issue exposed within the article is this:
Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State’s territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat.
Assuming that this is true McMaster hasn't denied anything of this kind. This isn't a revelation about methods or sources or about a secret military operation. Since Trump apparently divulged classified but not sensitive information the issue becomes one of recklessness, of lack of caution. It's likely that if Trump leaked information he did accidentally, because he had no idea that the information he was talking about could have led to any kind of trouble for the US. Still, the public deserves to know whether the POTUS handles classified information in a reckless way.

Hell, Trump himself was the first to cry bloody murder when Hillary Clinton apparently had handled classified information carelessly in her emails. So why shouldn't McMaster allow the press to ask whether Trump revealed any kind of classified information, not just sensitive information, before the representatives of a foreign power? Why should he use an oddly specific form of denial which doesn't deny what is alleged?

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This is all fine and good except that McMaster just announced he was in the room and no secrets were divulged.
He didn't say that. McMasters said the sources weren't named. The contention of the Wapo and most of the others is that some other details such as location of the source had a good likelihood of allowing the Russians to discover who the source was.
McMaster also was inaccurate when he said that Wapo said that sources were named. It's not what they said.
The White House is asking the press not to reveal the city where the info was gathered, yet apparently it was OK to share that with the Russians and by extension Syria, Iran, and Hezbollah?
There is a possibility that other intel agencies are going to be reluctant to cooperate with the US and it could cost lives.

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Two points on that

One - the scene is in the book so it's nothing new.

Two - the CGI portions looked a bit clunky - and the whole think will look very dated within 5 years (if it doesn't already).


Also - even in the book and definitely in the TV show it felt like filler (if you'll pardon the expression).

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John D wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:This story isn't just reported by Wapo, it's in every major news source. I'm guessing you are going to buy the Fox Newsversion and ignore everyone else because they are all homo lefty types.
The original source is only in a WaPo article. All the other news sources are simply reporting on this one report in WaPo. Even Fox is covering this story, and with the same narrative as most other news sources.

Trump can fire Comey for ANY REASON. He works for Trump. There is no Constitutional question here. It does not matter if the FBI is investigating Trump or not.
If Trump fired Comey because Trump received a healthy emolument as quid pro quo, you wouldn't see a problem there? How about if Trump fired Comey because of his religious faith?


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I do hope that everyone can put two and two together - and realise that my last post was about Trump's gay sex with Comey.

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d4m10n wrote:
John D wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:This story isn't just reported by Wapo, it's in every major news source. I'm guessing you are going to buy the Fox Newsversion and ignore everyone else because they are all homo lefty types.
The original source is only in a WaPo article. All the other news sources are simply reporting on this one report in WaPo. Even Fox is covering this story, and with the same narrative as most other news sources.

Trump can fire Comey for ANY REASON. He works for Trump. There is no Constitutional question here. It does not matter if the FBI is investigating Trump or not.
If Trump fired Comey because Trump received a healthy emolument as quid pro quo, you wouldn't see a problem there? How about if Trump fired Comey because of his religious faith?


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Any reason. It doesn't matter. He can fire him because has three nipples. Really. ANY reason means ANY reason. This isn't hard. The FBI director serves the President. The President is the elected Executive of the United States.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
This is all fine and good except that McMaster just announced he was in the room and no secrets were divulged.
He didn't say that. McMasters said the sources weren't named. The contention of the Wapo and most of the others is that some other details such as location of the source had a good likelihood of allowing the Russians to discover who the source was.
McMaster also was inaccurate when he said that Wapo said that sources were named. It's not what they said.
The White House is asking the press not to reveal the city where the info was gathered, yet apparently it was OK to share that with the Russians and by extension Syria, Iran, and Hezbollah?
There is a possibility that other intel agencies are going to be reluctant to cooperate with the US and it could cost lives.
He did say that no confidential info was given. I heard him say it live on the radio at about 11:50 am EST. What is your source? I suppose it is possible that I didn't hear what McMaster said... but I really doubt it.

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MarcusAu wrote:Two points on that

One - the scene is in the book so it's nothing new.

Two - the CGI portions looked a bit clunky - and the whole think will look very dated within 5 years (if it doesn't already).


Also - even in the book and definitely in the TV show it felt like filler (if you'll pardon the expression).
I've read the book too. I just thought it was the kind of thing Breitbart would have lost their shit about just a couple of years back.

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John D wrote:
d4m10n wrote:
John D wrote: The original source is only in a WaPo article. All the other news sources are simply reporting on this one report in WaPo. Even Fox is covering this story, and with the same narrative as most other news sources.

Trump can fire Comey for ANY REASON. He works for Trump. There is no Constitutional question here. It does not matter if the FBI is investigating Trump or not.
If Trump fired Comey because Trump received a healthy emolument as quid pro quo, you wouldn't see a problem there? How about if Trump fired Comey because of his religious faith?


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Any reason. It doesn't matter. He can fire him because has three nipples. Really. ANY reason means ANY reason. This isn't hard. The FBI director serves the President. The President is the elected Executive of the United States.
The President took an oath to uphold the constitution, and has already found himself stymied on occasion as a result of promulgating orders which (arguably) violate provisions thereof.



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John D wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
This is all fine and good except that McMaster just announced he was in the room and no secrets were divulged.
He didn't say that. McMasters said the sources weren't named. The contention of the Wapo and most of the others is that some other details such as location of the source had a good likelihood of allowing the Russians to discover who the source was.
McMaster also was inaccurate when he said that Wapo said that sources were named. It's not what they said.
The White House is asking the press not to reveal the city where the info was gathered, yet apparently it was OK to share that with the Russians and by extension Syria, Iran, and Hezbollah?
There is a possibility that other intel agencies are going to be reluctant to cooperate with the US and it could cost lives.
He did say that no confidential info was given. I heard him say it live on the radio at about 11:50 am EST. What is your source? I suppose it is possible that I didn't hear what McMaster said... but I really doubt it.
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d4m10n wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:Well Brive - I knew you had an interest in studying history.
I had a crossed swords moment with her at JREF. She struck me as a passive aggressive narcissist.

To be fair, Damion knew her reasonable well and begged to differ.
She seemed fairly direct to me, at least on the erstwhile JREF forums.

Speaking of narcissism, though, have you ever met this guy?

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narcissism Is a required trait for a supreme leader. Alison liked to press buttons and safely watch conversations all about herself before parachuting in to stoke the flames as required. She mainly used proxies though.

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Steersman wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:Don't count on bird in your hand being better than 2 in a bush, until they've hatched!

I couldn't resist! :lol:
:-) But a reference to the argument that sometimes one in the bush is worth two in the hand? ;-)

In any case, en passant and since I'm getting chastised severely about the ears for my predilection for cliches, a partial set of lyrics to Allan Sherman's Signs:
No checks cashed,
Make deliveries in the rear.
Shake well before using.
This end up, my dear.

Close cover before striking.
Do not push, do not shove.
No shorts in the dining room.
Dump no rubbish, my love.
(Don't be a fool, don't be a fool, my love.)
So, if I'm doing the math and poetry interpretation right, that means that one delivery in the rear (without being pushy and without leaving any clothing strewn in the dining room) is worth two in the bush, and each one in the bush is worth two in the hand. And since no checks are cashed, that means cash or credit cards only, and that means the 'worth' is money. So, anal makes 4 times the money as handjobs is what you're trying to say? :lol:

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d4m10n wrote: The President took an oath to uphold the constitution, and has already found himself stymied on occasion as a result of promulgating orders which (arguably) violate provisions thereof.
So.... you want to change the subject for some reason? You think that any president that makes an order that is overturned by the SCOTUS is impeachable? So... Obama should have been impeached for his illegal immigrant order? Haha. Please say something reasonable.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
John D wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:He didn't say that. McMasters said the sources weren't named. The contention of the Wapo and most of the others is that some other details such as location of the source had a good likelihood of allowing the Russians to discover who the source was.
McMaster also was inaccurate when he said that Wapo said that sources were named. It's not what they said.
The White House is asking the press not to reveal the city where the info was gathered, yet apparently it was OK to share that with the Russians and by extension Syria, Iran, and Hezbollah?
There is a possibility that other intel agencies are going to be reluctant to cooperate with the US and it could cost lives.
He did say that no confidential info was given. I heard him say it live on the radio at about 11:50 am EST. What is your source? I suppose it is possible that I didn't hear what McMaster said... but I really doubt it.
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Trump didn't discuss the classified part during the meeting. The leaker leaked more than was talked about there. Now the whitehouse is scrambling because the extra stuff IS classified and has endangered people.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
John D wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
He didn't say that. McMasters said the sources weren't named. The contention of the Wapo and most of the others is that some other details such as location of the source had a good likelihood of allowing the Russians to discover who the source was.
McMaster also was inaccurate when he said that Wapo said that sources were named. It's not what they said.
The White House is asking the press not to reveal the city where the info was gathered, yet apparently it was OK to share that with the Russians and by extension Syria, Iran, and Hezbollah?
There is a possibility that other intel agencies are going to be reluctant to cooperate with the US and it could cost lives.
He did say that no confidential info was given. I heard him say it live on the radio at about 11:50 am EST. What is your source? I suppose it is possible that I didn't hear what McMaster said... but I really doubt it.
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Devil is in the details I guess. So... he did not give sources, methods, or contacts. You got me on this one.

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We can move this to another thread if we are pissing people off.... (like Phil or something).

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It is depressing that Trump is truly putting barriers between Pit brothers and sisters.

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John D wrote:
d4m10n wrote: The President took an oath to uphold the constitution, and has already found himself stymied on occasion as a result of promulgating orders which (arguably) violate provisions thereof.
So.... you want to change the subject for some reason? You think that any president that makes an order that is overturned by the SCOTUS is impeachable? So... Obama should have been impeached for his illegal immigrant order? Haha. Please say something reasonable.
It seemed to me that you were arguing that the President has zero constitutional checks on his actions, so long as those actions are confined to the executive branch. This is simply not how it works.

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