Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Dislike Antifa? SJWs? Bike lock wielding maniacs?

Then this is pure porn.

[youtube][/youtube]

Sweet, and it made mainstream. Maybe it will teach Antifa some manners. Probably not.

[Ape+lust]

Dear Dr Krauss: Make the world better and sue this cow out of existence.

http://imgur.com/1kO1skL.png

She's always grandstanding her contempt for Krauss and anyone who tolerates him.

Meanwhile...

http://imgur.com/D8Njfee.png

http://imgur.com/4QOFpD0.png

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Sounds like she is a bit worn out.

I can understand with her subscriber count number, and the attention she received, and the sheer volume of people who wanted to "convert" her that it would be way too much all at once.

You would think she would know how to manage and moderate mass numbers of "fan" messages by now, but I guess if you throw in a perspective shift it is too much for her.

Where did she land on the whole issue, for those of us too lazy traumatized to look?

Considering the tone of the tweet, I certainly doubt she's reconsidered if it's useful to talk/discuss/socialize with anti-SJW types. Probably more the opposite, the way people went after her made that decision more correct.

I knew she was landing pro-pronoun, but I was hoping that she would see the process as useful.

[Bhurzum]

http://imgur.com/4QOFpD0.png

I don't have Overwatch but I'm pretty damned evil at FPS's. Could we get a 'pit death-squad together to hunt down and violate these muppets?

I've got several VOIP servers we could use and will gladly take a ping-hit to trawl US servers.

[Guest_440911e7]

Coraline Ada, author of the "Creator's Covenant" has left github, apparently a bit over a year from joining, and just after it was noted how she was violating her own Covenant.

reddit com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/6c1uy3/ethics_githubs_new_codes_of_conduct_api_defaults/

But there is no word on why she left, and it's doubtful GitHub would fire her solely for being a cunt.

She is looking for a CTO position, "remote only".

And she is apparently getting interviews, and quickly too, because who doesn't want such a harbinger of death on staff?

Alexa, what flowers do I bring to a vampire for a date, or any date at a funeral?

"Dracunculus vulgaris is a species of aroid in the genus Dracunculus and is known variously as the common dracunculus, dragon arum, the black arum, the voodoo lily, the snake lily, the stink lily, the black dragon, the black lily, dragonwort, and ragons. In Greece, part of its native range, the plant is called drakondia, the long spadix being viewed as a small dragon hiding in the spathe. The species is characterized by a large purple spathe and spadix, which has a very unpleasant smell reminiscent of rotting meat to attract flies (Lucilia and others) as pollinators. The large palmate leaves have occasional cream flecks along the veins."

[free thoughtpolice]

Some animals just don't make good pets.
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[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Isn't Coraline Ada Ehmke a dude in all but name? Also, I understand a really bad coder (like I should talk) and a general blight on any sane community?

[Brive1987]

Ape+Lust - time Krauss turned that passive aggressive crap off.

[Brive1987]

What a mess.

[Really?]

Isn't Coraline Ada Ehmke a dude in all but name? Also, I understand a really bad coder (like I should talk) and a general blight on any sane community?

I don't know if she's really a dude, but it's clear she doesn't play well with others. I am vacillating between two options. One, the companies interviewing her didn't do a google search. Two, there are a lot of tech CEOs who think this would be a cheaper option than their usual dominatrix.

[Kirbmarc]

Can i nominate Lily Allen for this year's Cunties?

I'm always amused at how celebrities of all stripes think that their fame makes them an authority on social or political issues, and don't bother checking their own opinions.

It's also funny that from a SJ point of view Allen is erasing and appropriating the experience of women of color as a privileged white. She's a racist. :lol:

[Really?]

Can i nominate Lily Allen for this year's Cunties?

I'm always amused at how celebrities of all stripes think that their fame makes them an authority on social or political issues, and don't bother checking their own opinions.

It's also funny that from a SJ point of view Allen is erasing and appropriating the experience of women of color as a privileged white. She's a racist. :lol:

The even funnier part is that Lily is from a rich family and has never had a single problem any day in her life.

[katamari Damassi]

Russian Deadpool has now been charged with first-degree murder:

http://www.nbc11news.com/content/news/424071683.html

First degree requires premeditation. I don't know how the DA thinks they're going to pull that off.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

What a mess.

Looks a little like a bruise, a little like gangrene.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

http://imgur.com/4QOFpD0.png

I don't have Overwatch but I'm pretty damned evil at FPS's. Could we get a 'pit death-squad together to hunt down and violate these muppets?

I've got several VOIP servers we could use and will gladly take a ping-hit to trawl US servers.

https://image.ibb.co/e4f8Fv/675901.png

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

What a mess.

Just enough tit to keep the neckbeard dollars flowing.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Dislike Antifa? SJWs? Bike lock wielding maniacs?

Then this is pure porn.

[youtube][/youtube]

Sweet, thanks Commander. Been waiting for this. My only complaint is it is obviously a D-lock, not a U-lock. :naughty: :snooty:

[Za-zen]

In my opinion, it would be far more apt to compare ISIS to the British state and it's murderous bunch of militants that it dispatches off to the various corners of the globe to murder inocents by the bushel.

I've got medals for murdering innocents by the bushel.

Right shiny they are too ;)

What's your longest kill streak?

[piginthecity]

You're telling me the IRA was bad. That's not disputed. The regressive left is saying the IRA was just as bad as ISIS. To refute that, I don't need to claim that every IRA attack was squeaky clean, only that it on occasion showed restraint, then point to utter lack of similar constraint by the jihadis.

I also highlight the import difference in ideals and goals, and to a certain extent, mindset. As I noted, the IRA's justification is based on the false claim that the 1921 treaty was illegitimate. But were that true, then under international law, the IRA would likely deserve belligerent status, and the 'occupation' be just that. Now, belligerent status notwithstanding, the intentional targeting of civilians is a war crime. Anyone who does so is a monster. When the UK formally apologizes for Croke Park and for the four years it made killing as many civilians as possible a strategic war aim, then its j'accuse might not seem so hypocritical.

I never said the IRA was 'bad'.

I was questioning how somebody goes from deciding that some specific hundred-year old treaty happens to be worded not exactly to their liking - because they are told that in a green book - and therefore that they are entitled to reduce other people's children to a pile of goo with a nailbomb and then sanctimoniously lecture us on how we're not supposed to raise any objections.

As for the regressives and their view, I don't keep that close an eye on them, and I hadn't picked up that they were drawing an exact moral equivalence between the two organisations, merely that the apologetics for them both took the same form and leant heavily on the post-modern.

You might like to pay a little less attention to them yourself if you don't want to get into the habit of reflexively demanding apology for this or that. Although in the case of Croke Park, you do have a point - some of the recent England rugby displays there have been woeful.

[Brive1987]

What a mess.

[tweet.][/tweet]

Looks a little like a bruise, a little like gangrene.

Right. So I ducked into Max's tattoos at Kings Cross on my stroll home. Never been in such an establishment before so you can buy me a beer later.

http://i.imgur.com/GtXU9Nl.jpg


Showed him the mess on my iPad and asked "is this normal or what?"


http://i.imgur.com/AlL3x7E.jpg


He ummed and ahhhed not wanting to directly shit on another "artist" before finding an acceptable format ...

"Look" he said "if that had come out of my shop someone would be getting a kick up the arse"

And with that I went on my way with a "thanks".

[HoneyWagon]

Dislike Antifa? SJWs? Bike lock wielding maniacs?

Then this is pure porn.

[youtube][/youtube]

God damn! How many times to they have to replay that guy getting a bike lock to the skull ????
I had to stop it a few times, but no matter where I moved in the timeline, I seemed to be less than 5 seconds from seeing it again.

[Brive1987]

Hmmmm.

This shows so maybe she can filter by individual tweet. Let's wait and see.

http://i.imgur.com/yb9rcdK.jpg

[AllanW]

Just catching up as it's been a busy week in Manchester ....

About right:

http://imnotquirky.com/wp-content/uploa ... xHaUXf.jpg

No. The BBC has travelled downwards and rightwards for the last 8 years and rest now at the top of the Fox news ellipsis.

[Brive1987]

18 hours without a ping. Ouch.

"Hello silence my old friend ... "

[Za-zen]

You're telling me the IRA was bad. That's not disputed. The regressive left is saying the IRA was just as bad as ISIS. To refute that, I don't need to claim that every IRA attack was squeaky clean, only that it on occasion showed restraint, then point to utter lack of similar constraint by the jihadis.

I also highlight the import difference in ideals and goals, and to a certain extent, mindset. As I noted, the IRA's justification is based on the false claim that the 1921 treaty was illegitimate. But were that true, then under international law, the IRA would likely deserve belligerent status, and the 'occupation' be just that. Now, belligerent status notwithstanding, the intentional targeting of civilians is a war crime. Anyone who does so is a monster. When the UK formally apologizes for Croke Park and for the four years it made killing as many civilians as possible a strategic war aim, then its j'accuse might not seem so hypocritical.

I never said the IRA was 'bad'.

I was questioning how somebody goes from deciding that some specific hundred-year old treaty happens to be worded not exactly to their liking - because they are told that in a green book - and therefore that they are entitled to reduce other people's children to a pile of goo with a nailbomb and then sanctimoniously lecture us on how we're not supposed to raise any objections.

As for the regressives and their view, I don't keep that close an eye on them, and I hadn't picked up that they were drawing an exact moral equivalence between the two organisations, merely that the apologetics for them both took the same form and leant heavily on the post-modern.

You might like to pay a little less attention to them yourself if you don't want to get into the habit of reflexively demanding apology for this or that. Although in the case of Croke Park, you do have a point - some of the recent England rugby displays there have been woeful.

Here's a radical thought for you; The killing of people is bad full stop. Wether that be A Brit paid killer, an IRA volunteer, or an ISIS militant doing the killing. I oft fund that those who wax lyrical about terrorism are the same numptys who flag wave their own nations paid killers, but this is all goal post shifting, as the actual point was to wether ISIS attacks are comparable to the previous PIRA campaign.

They are obviously not, as is it not comparable to Brit violence. Neither the Brits nor the PIRA used mass murder of civilians as a strategy. It's as simple as that. Were there times when Both Brit killers and PIRA militants murdered civilians, and at other times demonstrated a "don't really give a fuck" attitude to civilians killed in their attacks. Yes! (Note the PIRA are no longer involved in armed action, the Brits still send their paid killers worldwide, with a "sorry but shit happens" attitude to civilian death. Whilst this is obviously feels bad man, it is not the fucking same as the ISIS strategy.

Getting into the "validity" of the IRA campaign is just horseshit.

[Brive1987]

Never forgot this incident from my youth.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/imag ... uWKTIH57wg

[Za-zen]

Never forgot this incident from my youth.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/imag ... uWKTIH57wg

Man's inhumanity to man. Do you know who that is in the picture?

[Brive1987]

Yes. A rambo British army signaller who fucked up with his mate and a catholic priest who thought he'd gone to hell.

Real lord of the flies stuff.

[VickyCaramel]

Never forgot this incident from my youth.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/imag ... uWKTIH57wg

Shortly before this, at another PIRA funeral, a loyalist crashed the party with grenades.
At the time I was working with somebody who just left the army. For the next few years we kept a tally on a chart on the wall of who was killing who. The IRA and the Nationalist community really took a kicking, largely from the Loyalists. I have little doubt this played a large part in ending the conflict. I suspect eventually history will repeat itself -- if the muslim community won't sort itself out, there are plenty of people angry enough to sort out the muslim community.

[shoutinghorse]

I'm currently visiting relatives in Wales and the subject came round to Muslims as it invariably does these days and one of my female cousins said "If they tried that with young girls round here there would be four or five of our boys kicking the door in and giving them a good hiding, why don't the men or Rotherham or Rochdale do that"? to which I replied. "you only have a few Muslims in your town, try doing it when there are thousands, once 'your boys' have kicked the door in there would be 20 to 30 Muslim men suddenly appear on the street"

She then paused and said .. "we'll end up in a civil war with these bastards"

[Za-zen]

It's always great to have some wanker who knows fuck all about the tragedy that was/is the Irish conflict, pontificate about the evil IRA. I grew up in it, it was my everyday life, as both a child, and a young adult.

Conflict is disgusting, inhuman and its product is always suffering beyond imagination. I weep (and have done literally) for each and every life lost in conflict i have been involved in. I have worn both the uniform of a national army, and at another time engaged in armed conflict as a volunteer. I look with disdain on the tosspots who parade up and down streets with their medals pinned to their chests, i feel no need to bask in the glory of my "heroic deeds", as a wanker in a uniform paid to end other peoples existence. Nor do i attend commemorations or other such glorification/communal circle jerks. Mostly i feel regret, and sorrow at the young retards with their heads filled with shit who march off to whatever their local recruiting station may be.

[youtube][/youtube]

[Kirbmarc]

Shortly before this, at another PIRA funeral, a loyalist crashed the party with grenades.
At the time I was working with somebody who just left the army. For the next few years we kept a tally on a chart on the wall of who was killing who. The IRA and the Nationalist community really took a kicking, largely from the Loyalists. I have little doubt this played a large part in ending the conflict. I suspect eventually history will repeat itself -- if the muslim community won't sort itself out, there are plenty of people angry enough to sort out the muslim community.

This is one of my concerns. Because if that happens there's no stopping that train. The governments should cut ties with Salafi-sponsoring nations, stand on the side of secularism without giving an inch to the establishment of religious zones and go after imams who preach that shit, along with regulating immigration, that's the only way to ease things. Otherwise tensions will rise, not just because of terrorism, but because of young idiots who think that they can get away with anything just because they're muslims or turn into the Sharia police, because of ineffective policing, milquetoast, Saudi-friendly and in general islam-friendly governments, etc.

My biggest fear is that the retarded SJWs will hinder the process of rationalization and secularization of society so much that other people will conclude that the only way to sort things out is violence. Because even leaving aside ethics, human rights and values (which isn't just a high-horse narrative, it's the foundation of liberal democracy, it's the reason why other conflicts are also curtailed) there's no way that this is going to end with some peace treaty (however unstable and fragile) like the Northern Ireland.

The Irish nationalist had a plan (uniting all the island of Ireland) which, leaving aside ethics and allegiances, was within the realm of the possible. It'd have required ethnic cleansing of the unionist, but it wasn't just a pipe dream. It was an awful plan but since it was within the realm of possible, it was a limited plan. If (let's just toy with a possibility here) all the unionist had emigrated to Britain and left behind Ireland to the Irish nationalists that would have been the end of Irish nationalism. Of course it wasn't practical, or ethical for that matter (it'd have been ethnic cleansing, as I've written above) but it wasn't just a remote fantasy, so there was at least the material to start some sort of compromise, which indeed happened after a period of conflict. An unstable, shaky, fragile compromise, but a compromise nonetheless, with no ethnic cleansing on either side.

Islamic supremacy is different. It's a completely delusional dream of worldwide domination. It's completely outside the realm not just of practicality, but of possibility. It's a wild fantasy, and it's gaining popularity even over more limited (if not more realistic) dreams of an union of all muslims. If things get so bad that we come to a civil war between muslims and anti-muslims in the west the islamic supremacy movements will eventually do away with even token opposition or hesitation in their communities. At that point things could get so bad that they could trigger a genocide.

We've seen the escalation from the Muslim Brotherhood to Al-Qaeda to ISIS. It's a continuous progress towards the dream of the worldwide caliphate. Once you get there and trigger a civil war there's no end in sight which isn't mass murder.

So it's better to sort things out now in a rational way.

[Keating]

We need a Muslim to hit on Linda Sarsour in an elevator to create Islam+.

[Brive1987]

It's always great to have some wanker who knows fuck all about the tragedy that was/is the Irish conflict, pontificate about the evil IRA. I grew up in it, it was my everyday life, as both a child, and a young adult.

Conflict is disgusting, inhuman and its product is always suffering beyond imagination. I weep (and have done literally) for each and every life lost in conflict i have been involved in. I have worn both the uniform of a national army, and at another time engaged in armed conflict as a volunteer. I look with disdain on the tosspots who parade up and down streets with their medals pinned to their chests, i feel no need to bask in the glory of my "heroic deeds", as a wanker in a uniform paid to end other peoples existence. Nor do i attend commemorations or other such glorification/communal circle jerks. Mostly i feel regret, and sorrow at the young retards with their heads filled with shit who march off to whatever their local recruiting station may be.

[you.tube][/youtube]

http://i.imgur.com/2VmrHnN.jpg

[AndrewV69]

PSA:

I keep forgetting to mention this but:

For those two people perusing the Slymepit running Windows 10 and who can not seem to get Windows Update working ... try setting the network adapter to only use IP V4. only.

Remember to turn V6 back on afterwards as it breaks functionality when connecting to the update servers. Personally, I prefer to install updates when I want to because shit like this Windows 10 update broke DHCP, knocked users off the Internet can happen when people let Microsoft (or any vendor actually) automagically download and install updates.

(I never use Windows for anything other than games myself but whatever, people are really a whole heap more stupid ignorant brave than I am).

[Guest_440911e7]

We need a Muslim to hit on Linda Sarsour in an elevator to create Islam+.

Phrasing!

[Kirbmarc]

We need a Muslim to hit on Linda Sarsour in an elevator to create Islam+.

:lol:

I'd do it, I can "pass" for a muslim, and Sarsour isn't so bad looking (more attractive than Becky Watson, at least to me) so even if she accepted the offer it wouldn't be so bad. The problem is the only thing this is likely to create is a blog post where Linda says that islam is fantastic because it offers women a way to avoid sexual harassment by covering their hair. Either that or call her brothers in islam to beat me up if I dated her than dumped her.

[#32 Rat]

Price ceiling for oil (US Fracking): Aprox $60.00
Saudi break even price (2015): $66.70 Bloomberg
Current price: $48.90

Puts a limit on the money flowing to Salafi orgs. Add the future of solar/wind and electric autos and it's possible this problem will sort itself out. Plus, the lead violence connection (trend pointing to massive reduction in violence (of people of middle eastern origin) sometime around 2020-2030.) That seems to be the neoliberal argument if you can ever pull it out of them.

[Bhurzum]

the Brits still send their paid killers worldwide, with a "sorry but shit happens" attitude to civilian death.

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/ko ... 0810185248

Don't worry, I too dream of a happy gumdrop utopia where the Tumblrites scamper through cotton candy fields, armed conflict is a grisly relic of the past and we settle our differences with a "cards against humanity" session that everybody wins. Also, there are unicorns.

However, because of something called "human fucking nature", this rainbow hued fantasy won't be happening any time soon. In the meantime, we'll have to rely upon "paid killers" to do the dirty work that weaklings, cowards and hippy soft-cocks are incapable of.

Additionally, I don't know you but I'd bet the farm that I've done far more actual humanitarian work than you - helped build schools, medical facilities, provided food/water to civilians cut off from the rest of the country, provided first aid training (and supplies) to locals, helped rebuild local infrastructure, tracked down lost family members (including children) and all manner of G5 taskings that tend to land in your lap on tour. I've given years of my life to the job, often under conditions that would make you piss your panties and curl into a non-functional mound of sweaty uselessness.

So yeah, take your uninformed "paid killers" shtick and ram it up your hole :P

(No offense)

[paddybrown]

I don't read enough of the Grauniad say for sure - but when Lindy West is writing an article the graph should place them on the extreme bottom left. So wouldn't the positions move around quite a bit depending on who is writing? Like bottoms following you around the rom

Can anyone place Private Eye?

RIP National Lampoon.

The Guardian is, I think, almost two separate publications. Their news coverage and occasional forays into investigative journalism is pretty thorough and comprehensive, with a clear but not outrageous left slant. Their comment pieces are batshit crazy clickbait. The diagram places it pretty accurately if you only consider its actual news content (although I'd put it a little further to the left). The comment pages would be way to the left and pretty close to the bottom.

[Kirbmarc]

However, because of something called "human fucking nature", this rainbow hued fantasy won't be happening any time soon. In the meantime, we'll have to rely upon "paid killers" to do the dirty work that weaklings, cowards and hippy soft-cocks are incapable of.

Additionally, I don't know you but I'd bet the farm that I've done far more actual humanitarian work than you - helped build schools, medical facilities, provided food/water to civilians cut off from the rest of the country, provided first aid training (and supplies) to locals, helped rebuild local infrastructure, tracked down lost family members (including children) and all manner of G5 taskings that tend to land in your lap on tour. I've given years of my life to the job, often under conditions that would make you piss your panties and curl into a non-functional mound of sweaty uselessness.

So yeah, take your uninformed "paid killers" shtick and ram it up your hole :P

(No offense)

[youtube][/youtube]

[Za-zen]

the Brits still send their paid killers worldwide, with a "sorry but shit happens" attitude to civilian death.

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/ko ... 0810185248

Don't worry, I too dream of a happy gumdrop utopia where the Tumblrites scamper through cotton candy fields, armed conflict is a grisly relic of the past and we settle our differences with a "cards against humanity" session that everybody wins. Also, there are unicorns.

However, because of something called "human fucking nature", this rainbow hued fantasy won't be happening any time soon. In the meantime, we'll have to rely upon "paid killers" to do the dirty work that weaklings, cowards and hippy soft-cocks are incapable of.

Additionally, I don't know you but I'd bet the farm that I've done far more actual humanitarian work than you - helped build schools, medical facilities, provided food/water to civilians cut off from the rest of the country, provided first aid training (and supplies) to locals, helped rebuild local infrastructure, tracked down lost family members (including children) and all manner of G5 taskings that tend to land in your lap on tour. I've given years of my life to the job, often under conditions that would make you piss your panties and curl into a non-functional mound of sweaty uselessness.

So yeah, take your uninformed "paid killers" shtick and ram it up your hole :P

(No offense)

BBQ to get going for my kids so i'll be brief:

You do know that Hamas, does a lot of amazing humanitarian work don't you. I don't really give a shit what "humanitarian" taskings you have done, your primary purpose was to bring violence or the threat of it to an area. Additionally you were paid to do those "humanitarian" taskings were you not, in quotes because it's priamry purpose is actually strategical hearst and minds, (i've handed out the sweets to kids too) rather than actual compassion for people in need. I've paid for myself to go on Aid missions, rebuilding homes in earthquake zones.

conditions that would make you piss your panties and curl into a non-functional mound of sweaty uselessness.
So yeah, take your uninformed "paid killers" shtick and ram it up your hole
Said the ex squaddie to the Ex foreign Legionnaire

[Hunt]

He ummed and ahhhed not wanting to directly shit on another "artist" before finding an acceptable format ...

"Look" he said "if that had come out of my shop someone would be getting a kick up the arse"

And with that I went on my way with a "thanks".

Just about the only thing about tats I've ever admired is crispness and exact fine lines and the expertise it must take to do them. That thing looks like some adolescent art schooler started it, and then it was turned over to the shop monkey for embellishment. Who would do something like that? It's kind of a cliche to get tatted while drunk, but the artist isn't supposed to be the one drinking.

[MarcusAu]

Just about the only thing about tats I've ever admired is crispness and exact fine lines and the expertise it must take to do them. That thing looks like some adolescent art schooler started it, and then it was turned over to the shop monkey for embellishment. Who would do something like that? It's kind of a cliche to get tatted while drunk, but the artist isn't supposed to be the one drinking.

[youtube][/youtube]

[MarcusAu]

I don't want to fetishise PHD holders too much (well not in public anyway) - but has anyone seen much of Robert Sapolsky's stuff?

[Bhurzum]

I don't really give a shit what "humanitarian" taskings you have done, your primary purpose was to bring violence or the threat of it to an area.

You might want to google the "rules of engagement" and "mission statements" for the UK Armed forces, especially those employed during IFOR/SFOR/KFOR. Not only will it enlighten you, it'll make you look like an even bigger dipshit.

Additionally you were paid to do those "humanitarian" taskings were you not, in quotes because it's priamry purpose is actually strategical hearst and minds, (i've handed out the sweets to kids too) rather than actual compassion for people in need.

Wrong again, sweetcheeks. Our main effort (IFOR/Bosnia) was the implementation of the Dayton peace accords - we were deployed to STOP the fighting through mediation, the provision of security (to non-coms) and to bring a degree of normalcy to a war torn country. Also of note, and you're gonna hate this, our ROE was seriously restrictive - essentially, we could only open fire if we were under fire ourselves or to protect non-coms who were in immediate danger. It was that bad, it made the newspapers back home and stirred up quite a hornets nest.

The G5 taskings we conducted weren't even secondary jobs; they were done at the request of various locals who were in dire straights and had nobody else to turn to. We had to go through the chain of command, scrounge and scavenge materials (and expertise/manpower) and give up our downtime (what little we had) to get the jobs done.

I've paid for myself to go on Aid missions, rebuilding homes in earthquake zones.

Do it under fire then get back to me.

Said the ex squaddie to the Ex foreign Legionnaire

You say that like it means something. You were a grunt, mate. A really fucking bone one by the sounds of it.

[paddybrown]

IRA:
* Believes they are a legitimate belligerent entity engaged in armed resistance against an illegitimate military occupation;
* Ideology is secular, based on the false belief that the 1921 Peace Treaty was invalid;
* Goal is political, specific, with a one-time permanent resolution;
* Strategy & tactics intended to pressure opponent toward a political, negotiated solution.

ISIS
* Believe they are the anointed warrior of Allah engaged in a holy war against all infidels;
* Ideology is theological, ideological, cultural, political;
* Goal is all of the above, all-encompassing, perpetual;
* Strategy & tactics intended to gradually conquer the entire world; infidels to be wantonly killed or taken as sex slaves, heathen art & architecture to be destroyed in the process.


I'm not going to belabor the profound differences in target selection or collateral damage.

Well OK, Matt - I'm not going to call you an 'idiot' for making the comparison between the two. Your post is quite right for an entry-level overview for those new to the story and there certainly are some differences between the two organisations, and between the two ideologies or religions which underpin them.

Going more into the substance, though, we can look at through a 'Sam Harris' style lens of the relationship between beliefs which an individual holds and the ways in which those beliefs may manifest in violent behaviour. It's not always enough to simply look at the stated, or ostensible, aims of an organisation or group and assume that it maps perfectly on to the minds of all whose minds are in the grip of the group's ideology.

It seems to be true that a subset of our species are capable - even willing - to see other people's children reduced to an unrecognisable bloody pulp for the sake of "The Cause" and a larger subset are able to verbally tap dance around and justify it with varying degrees of sophistication and weaseality. There are a variety of different ways an ideology or organisation can operate to exploit this.

Also, of course, any organisation has to please its financial backers, and the methodology of the IRA had to be acceptable to the Americans who funded it, as ISIS has to be attractive to its Sunni backers.

In the case of the IRA, there is a strong 'Death-Cult' feel about it, especially as regards its apologists online. The 'political' veneer seldom lasts very long. The green book is all about "The Struggle" subsuming the individual and emphasising obedience to the hierarchy above all. Other data points are the fact that the IRA has turned its violence inwards towards policing the 'catholic' community, using a 'purity' type argument of racial and cultural exceptionalism and the fact that the bodies which the IRA won't return to the families are the catholic ones, as the punishment for these apostates is one of exclusion which is to continue into the hereafter.

Another very important aspect of this, which is much overlooked, is that the violence has to be perpetuated in order to justify the previous violence. A sort of moral version of the sunk-cost fallacy.

While I'm on the subject of weasel words, I don't really buy that you can just mention 'collateral damage' and then bale out. That's beneath you, Matt. You're better than that. I will have to 'belabor' the point for you, as you haven't the time. It needs belaboring. Belaboring will by my pleasure. Two particular examples that pop into my head for belaboring are the Warrington and the Eniskillen bombs. You are on very shaky ethical ground, to say the least, if you use your 'collateral damage' and 'target selection' forms of words to describe the people killed and maimed in these events. Somebody listening would be right to infer an ethical judgement you are making, consciously or not, about the value you place on these civilian lives and well-being. Not to your credit.

I wonder if in twenty years time apologists will say that any mention of the recent Manchester victims is 'Belaboring'. I think we know the answer.

You're telling me the IRA was bad. That's not disputed. The regressive left is saying the IRA was just as bad as ISIS. To refute that, I don't need to claim that every IRA attack was squeaky clean, only that it on occasion showed restraint, then point to utter lack of similar constraint by the jihadis.

I also highlight the import difference in ideals and goals, and to a certain extent, mindset. As I noted, the IRA's justification is based on the false claim that the 1921 treaty was illegitimate. But were that true, then under international law, the IRA would likely deserve belligerent status, and the 'occupation' be just that. Now, belligerent status notwithstanding, the intentional targeting of civilians is a war crime. Anyone who does so is a monster. When the UK formally apologizes for Croke Park and for the four years it made killing as many civilians as possible a strategic war aim, then its j'accuse might not seem so hypocritical.

The difference between the IRA and the jihadists is that the IRA could, ultimately, be reasoned with. They arose in a period when legitimate grievances existed that attempts to address by civic means were frustrated, and in situations like that, people turn to fanatics. When the British government held meetings with the IRA after Bloody Sunday in 1972, they were still too angry and too fanatical to reason with, but as the legitimate grievances were addressed a lot of the anger was taken out of the situation and discussion and compromise became possible. If you look at Sinn Fein campaign strategy, they're still fanatical. Every compromise is, to them, a staging post to ultimate victory, and Gerry Adams has admitted using equality issues as a "Trojan horse". But they're doing it through civic methods now, and are dealing with having to negotiate with unionists, who are every bit as unreasonable as they are.

I don't see any way of reasoning with jihadists. Their grievance is that there are still people who haven't surrendered. "Surrender" is, I think, the best translation of Islam, at least as far as the jihadist interpretation of the religion is concerned. And they seem, deliberately or not, to have found a way of attacking the modern west's ideals of secularism and religious tolerance: be intolerable. There's no way we can respond to that that isn't a small victory for them.

[Kirbmarc]

Manchester bomb used same explosive as Paris and Brussels attacks, says US lawmaker

Will Geddes, a British security specialist, said the detonator used in the Manchester bomb was a “specially acquired piece of equipment”.

“The most interesting part was the detonator itself. It takes the bomb beyond homemade. It suggests it was well put together and packaged, and professionally assembled.”

Geddes, the chief executive of the security consultants ICP, added: “I think it’s highly unlikely that Abedi got this piece independently. I think the bomb would have been delivered in its final format either by a courier or by the bombmaker.”

The detonator functioned as a dead man’s trigger, he said. He added that the bomb could have been set off either by depressing a “pressel switch” or by letting go of it, in the event that the bomber was shot or incapacitated.

It's unlikely that the Manchester attacker was a "lone wolf", and at this point intelligence agencies should also look into other allegedly "lone wolf" attacks. There's some evidence of a terrorist network still operating in Europe (the explosive was the same used in France and Belgium).

If I were an intelligence investigator at this point I'd start looking at the mosques in the areas where the attackers lived or went to school or worked, especially looking for imams who studied or worked in one of the Gulf countries and/or traveled to Libya or Syria or Turkey or one of the GCC countries in the last five-ten years.

[gurugeorge]

Dislike Antifa? SJWs? Bike lock wielding maniacs?

Then this is pure porn.

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God damn! How many times to they have to replay that guy getting a bike lock to the skull ????
I had to stop it a few times, but no matter where I moved in the timeline, I seemed to be less than 5 seconds from seeing it again.

It's the "tick" sound when it hits that gets me.

Nice to see a bit of justice being done.

[MarcusAu]

Manchester bomb used same explosive as Paris and Brussels attacks, says US lawmaker

...

Geddes, the chief executive of the security consultants ICP...

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How much you want to credit 'security consultant' working for ICP is up to you.

[Easy J]

It looks like his immediate family were heavily connected to terrorists:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Libya.html

"The father of suicide bomber Salman Abedi looked after a notorious ISIS recruiter when he was shot in Libya, it has been claimed.
Abedi, who slaughtered 22in Manchester on Monday, was said to be friends with Abdalraouf Abdallah, a Libyan refugee who returned to his homeland in 2011 to fight the regime of Colonel Gaddafi.
Abdallah, later jailed in Britain for terror offences, was shot in 2012 and was cared for in Tripoli by Abedi's father, Ramadan, it has been claimed. The injuries left him paralysed.

Ramadan is now in custody after being arrested this week by security forces in Libya over the Manchester attack.
The links between Abedi and Abdallah were revealed to the Financial Times by associates of the two families.

Police in Tripoli said he was a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) in the 1990s who found refuge in Britain before returning to fight against Gaddafi in 2011. He denies he was part of the al-Qaeda-backed group.
Abdallah, 23, was jailed for five and a half years in July 2016, having been convicted of trying to help other Manchester-based extremists to join ISIS.
He lived in Moss Side in south Manchester, a short drive from the Abedi family home."

[Easy J]

Manchester bomb used same explosive as Paris and Brussels attacks, says US lawmaker

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Geddes, the chief executive of the security consultants ICP...

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How much you want to credit 'security consultant' working for ICP is up to you.

They do some good work, although magnet-based explosives might best be analyzed by other firms.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

That's one hell of a Pit Kill for an ICP joke.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I'm going to go Captain Obvious:

ICP = Insane Clown Posee. " Fucking magnets, how do they work?"

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Since it's downtime at the Pit, here's the latest video from my singer's main band (the guy we went to Tuscany to attend his wedding at the beginning of the month).

Me, I think it kicks ass.

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[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Ooops!

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[feathers]

Who else wants to be in on Team Emma.

(Not me)

I must admit, she looks hot while tied up.

[feathers]

They still have padlocks with a plastic body. They don't have any thump when swung in a sock but you can still grip them with the metal ring over a knuckle & ping someone pretty good with them. Given his granola-hippy physique & solid middle class breeding, I'm sure he'll be having his privilege (& reality) checked soon enough.

Is this experience speaking?

[Guest_440911e7]

I must admit, she looks hot while tied up.

Jesus, what she wants most is somewhat to nail her.

[Billie from Ockham]

My only complaint is it is obviously a D-lock, not a U-lock. :naughty: :snooty:

It's a U-lock when you get hit with it. It's a D-lock when you're lying on ground, on your side, watching your assailant run away.