In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary

[Old_ones]

Social Repose has just posted his response.

It's called "I'm an idiot"

Good start

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zY4PsDe-RMM

He's getting flayed in the comments. Maybe instead of apologizing he should have "come out poly".

[some guy]

So lanyrd.com, having remained in "try again later" mode for at least the last two moths, now gives a 503 error. RIP. So here's the Skepticon schedule from eventsxd.com lightly edited to make more readable in text.

https://www2.eventsxd.com/event/4338/sk ... 0/sessions

Skepticon 10
Nov 10 - 12, 2017 • Springfield, MO

Improving & Reducing Your Screw-Ups
Friday, November 10 - 11:00AM to 12:00PM
Heina Dadabhoy
Everyone messes up sometimes. Here's how to not put your foot in your mouth and do better next time in a world where few forgive and no one forgets. We will be examining various recent screw-ups and discuss what could have been done better.
How to be an open atheist without people noticing

...

Holy shit! This is actually real?

I thought it was Ape+lust just doing another of his -shops ridiculing her (and skepticon).

WTF does this have to do with skepticism? It's more suitable as life advice for fuck-ups and losers. And is this now her area of expertise?

(Oh, btw, Heina: taking $10K in a kickstarter to write a book and then spending all the money but not writing the book is not a "screw-up"; it called a "scam".)

[deLurch]

Spoilers.


He fucked an old girlfriend a couple of times, including in the dunny. And JG Went thru all his messages on his phone by mistake.

Wow. Left field stuff. 2 shits, neither deserving each other's trust or respect.

@ about 5 or 6 mins.

https://youtu.be/qDBYd32c0eU

So is she going to fix her hair or not?

[Brive1987]

So lanyrd.com, having remained in "try again later" mode for at least the last two moths, now gives a 503 error. RIP. So here's the Skepticon schedule from eventsxd.com lightly edited to make more readable in text.

https://www2.eventsxd.com/event/4338/sk ... 0/sessions

Skepticon 10
Nov 10 - 12, 2017 • Springfield, MO

Improving & Reducing Your Screw-Ups
Friday, November 10 - 11:00AM to 12:00PM
Heina Dadabhoy
Everyone messes up sometimes. Here's how to not put your foot in your mouth and do better next time in a world where few forgive and no one forgets. We will be examining various recent screw-ups and discuss what could have been done better.
How to be an open atheist without people noticing

...

Holy shit! This is actually real?

I thought it was Ape+lust just doing another of his -shops ridiculing her (and skepticon).

WTF does this have to do with skepticism? It's more suitable as life advice for fuck-ups and losers. And is this now her area of expertise?

(Oh, btw, Heina: taking $10K in a kickstarter to write a book and then spending all the money but not writing the book is not a "screw-up"; it called a "scam".)

This shit just writes itself.

http://i.imgur.com/vVyDKXN.jpg

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

I'm thinking cancel the hotel reservation and just make it a day trip to the zoo on Saturday.

While the experience would be similar, I think we would appreciate your reports. Plus, what does Hyena look like dancing? Are all Polys spazs? Inquiring minds wanna know.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Funny how Caine's Lakota half hates "shite" people so much. I wonder if she really hates the white part of herself.

Which is all of her. She's as white as snow, the Shaun King of Injuns. Fuck her for a plastic pretender.

[deLurch]

Thinnest alleged hippo Ive ever seen.
http://i.imgur.com/LzxYUyy.jpg
Gotta be a relation.

I can't believe he cheated on her with this absolute heifer. What a fatty chaser. I bet she spends all day at the all you can eat buffet.

https://i.imgur.com/9xxDCgY.jpg

[deLurch]

Social Repose has just posted his response.

It's called "I'm an idiot"

Good start

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zY4PsDe-RMM

"Touring is hard" (and so was his dick).

I think Jaclyn's biggest mistake was not understanding that men who go out on music tours get tail thrown at them all of the time. She wasn't the only one to be enamored with him.

[Sunder]

FA's position is now "it doesn't matter if the shooter is an atheist, but it does matter if he's a Christian."

[MacGruberKnows]

From imgur:

https://i.imgur.com/OaExdue.jpg

[Brive1987]

[deLurch]

So lanyrd.com, having remained in "try again later" mode for at least the last two moths, now gives a 503 error. RIP. So here's the Skepticon schedule from eventsxd.com lightly edited to make more readable in text.

https://www2.eventsxd.com/event/4338/sk ... 0/sessions

Skepticon 10
Nov 10 - 12, 2017 • Springfield, MO

Improving & Reducing Your Screw-Ups
Friday, November 10 - 11:00AM to 12:00PM
Heina Dadabhoy
Everyone messes up sometimes. Here's how to not put your foot in your mouth and do better next time in a world where few forgive and no one forgets. We will be examining various recent screw-ups and discuss what could have been done better.
How to be an open atheist without people noticing

...

Holy shit! This is actually real?

I thought it was Ape+lust just doing another of his -shops ridiculing her (and skepticon).

WTF does this have to do with skepticism? It's more suitable as life advice for fuck-ups and losers. And is this now her area of expertise?

(Oh, btw, Heina: taking $10K in a kickstarter to write a book and then spending all the money but not writing the book is not a "screw-up"; it called a "scam".)

:nin:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/f61408e3af/55715.png

[Brive1987]

Thinnest alleged hippo Ive ever seen.
[i.mg]http://i.imgur.com/LzxYUyy.jpg[/img]
Gotta be a relation.

I can't believe he cheated on her with this absolute heifer. What a fatty chaser. I bet she spends all day at the all you can eat buffet.

https://i.imgur.com/9xxDCgY.jpg

These things are PoMo relative

[feathers]

everyone else thank you for the in depth technical advice! I may have to re calibrate the Kramden/Norton balancing spindle.

Don't forget to tighten the self-sealing stem bolt.

[feathers]

Latino is a bullshit ethnicity. All other ethnicities have some kind of geographical root (Asian, African, whatever). A Latino isn't someone from Spain, they are someone from somewhere populated by people who came from Spain before that.

I bet they can't even read and write Latin.

[feathers]

Funny how Caine's Lakota half hates "shite" people so much. I wonder if she really hates the white part of herself.

That would be 98% to hate of yourself.

[deLurch]

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/texas ... ng-n817751

Ann Stefanek, a spokeswoman for the Air Force, confirmed that Kelly was court-martialed in 2012 on two charges of assaulting his spouse and their child. He was confined for a year, reduced in rank to airman basic E-1 and given a bad conduct discharge in 2014, Stefanek said.

[MarcusAu]

everyone else thank you for the in depth technical advice! I may have to re calibrate the Kramden/Norton balancing spindle.

Don't forget to tighten the self-sealing stem bolt.

Spike - I can hook you up with a reconditioned veeblefetzer should you need one.

[deLurch]

It pretty much looks like the mother-in-law went to that church & his wife did too. I would assume that after matters went south the wife would go back & shelter with her mother & church she was familiar with prior to marriage at the age of 19.

https://i.imgur.com/4q0Hqrj.jpg

[MarcusAu]

Don't know if anyone here follows 'The Fake Podcast' on Youtube...

...Anyway here's the latest episode - shorter than most - giving a summary of the recent Texas shooting and another couple of news stories.

[Dick Strawkins]

I notice that the insufferable Wil Wheaton is getting in trouble on twitter for the following tweet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN5i9yHUIAAvZA2.jpg

Much as I cannot stand WW, I don't see the problem with this.

How exactly is he wrong? :think:

[Kirbmarc]

I notice that the insufferable Wil Wheaton is getting in trouble on twitter for the following tweet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN5i9yHUIAAvZA2.jpg

Much as I cannot stand WW, I don't see the problem with this.

How exactly is he wrong? :think:

He's been called insensitive to the victims. I don't think he is. This is garden -variety anti-GOP snark. Not very productive, but that's social media to you.

[Fegg]

I notice that the insufferable Wil Wheaton is getting in trouble on twitter for the following tweet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN5i9yHUIAAvZA2.jpg

Much as I cannot stand WW, I don't see the problem with this.

How exactly is he wrong? :think:

He takes the observation that prayers do not work reliably as a shield to prevent bad things from happening (practically all people who pray know this) and concludes that prayers do no good at all (hardly anyone who prays thinks this). His conclusion does not actually follow, whatever you think about prayer.

B.

[SM1957]

I notice that the insufferable Wil Wheaton is getting in trouble on twitter for the following tweet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN5i9yHUIAAvZA2.jpg

Much as I cannot stand WW, I don't see the problem with this.

How exactly is he wrong? :think:

If we count the number of Kuffar killed in the past 4 years, we see that prayers do work.

You just have to pray to the right deity.

[feathers]

Isn't this a bit like lighting candles for the victims of a high-rise fire?

[Guest_d2e60302]

He's been called insensitive to the victims. I don't think he is. This is garden -variety anti-GOP snark. Not very productive, but that's social media to you.

It's terribly insensitive to the victims, it's an angstrom away from victim blaming, it is victim blaming.

If prayers do nothing, then everything about the victims being in that church was a waste of time, energy and their lives. It also assumes people always pray to god for divine intervention, as opposed to praying to god for thanks for his various gifts to the world, to their community, to them. Or thanking god out of their joy for being alive. Or just praying and going to church as a social activity that provides them purpose and a way to create and channel charitable efforts, bind a community together, talk about community philosophy and morals.

And for whatever reason we find the shooter was attracted to that church, if prayer has no value, no purpose, does not work, then what he said is tantamount to blaming the victims for setting up and maintaining a church in the first place. A worthless, useless, bad influence on society that somehow made this asshole go crazy and kill them.

Later on, he says he tweeted that out of anger, presumably anger at Paul Ryan and Congress, but his anger led him to basically saying the victims were idiots to be blamed for their own deaths.

It was a huge violation of Wheaton's Law.

[InfraRedBucket]

Strongest evidence shooter was antifa/"progressive." So take that as a joke.
https://imgoat.com/uploads/f61408e3af/55666.jpg

Still the only solid evidence points back to girl trouble. You say his wife left him? Fuck, that explains the church in the Mother in Law's town. Track down the ex-wife & mother in Law's church and I think we will have a solid suggestion on at why.

That face on the right...

The cold, dead eyes...the lank, greasy hair and beard...the sense of a man thoroughly kicked by life, and by every jock he passed in High School hallways...

https://i.imgur.com/KIKblP3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QKDWydE.jpg

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[Kirbmarc]

He's been called insensitive to the victims. I don't think he is. This is garden -variety anti-GOP snark. Not very productive, but that's social media to you.

It's terribly insensitive to the victims, it's an angstrom away from victim blaming, it is victim blaming.

If prayers do nothing, then everything about the victims being in that church was a waste of time, energy and their lives. It also assumes people always pray to god for divine intervention, as opposed to praying to god for thanks for his various gifts to the world, to their community, to them. Or thanking god out of their joy for being alive. Or just praying and going to church as a social activity that provides them purpose and a way to create and channel charitable efforts, bind a community together, talk about community philosophy and morals.

And for whatever reason we find the shooter was attracted to that church, if prayer has no value, no purpose, does not work, then what he said is tantamount to blaming the victims for setting up and maintaining a church in the first place. A worthless, useless, bad influence on society that somehow made this asshole go crazy and kill them.

Later on, he says he tweeted that out of anger, presumably anger at Paul Ryan and Congress, but his anger led him to basically saying the victims were idiots to be blamed for their own deaths.

It was a huge violation of Wheaton's Law.

I think that Wheaton meant that Paul Ryan's prayers were useless since Ryan and the GOP oppose gun control, which Wheaton deems to be useful.

In any way I don't see why saying that prayers are useless victim blaming. Going to an Ariana Grande concert is also useless in stopping bullets or explosives, it doesn't mean that the people killed at Grande's concert are to blame.

This looks like reading too much in Wheaton's words and feeding into moral outrage.

[SM1957]

the Times has an article about a famous British cyclist who is now a woman

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its- ... 3d34f57595

People with gender dysphoria claim
1) Their condition can sometimes drive them to suicide
2) They require expensive medical attention over years which they should not have to pay for
3) They are not ill

Surely they can only pick 2 from 3.

Lena Zavaroni had body dysphoria. Her case was less successful than Robert Millar's. But why is one an illness and the other not?

[Guest_d2e60302]

In any way I don't see why saying that prayers are useless victim blaming. Going to an Ariana Grande concert is also useless in stopping bullets or explosives, it doesn't mean that the people killed at Grande's concert are to blame.

Ryan would still say: Reports out are devastating. The victims need our prayers right now.

Wheaton would not say "The murdered victims were in a stadium. If songs did anything, they'd still be alive, you worthless sack of shit."

Wheaton might say "Prayers won't do jack shit dumbass, pass some fucking laws"

If Wheaton said "Ariana Grande? Pfft. Those idiot teens had it coming for liking her!" it would certainly be victim blaming, but I think it's the same or darn close to what he did say "They were in a church! If prayers did anything, they'd still be alive, you worthless sack of shit."

It's grossly disrespectful to the victims and either the kinds of songs they like or their belief systems to attack them and devalue them just to attack Ryan.

Add to that that if Wheaton thinks people go to Church to get god to intercede on their behalf, then Wheaton is saying, these people were not good enough, even by their own standards to get god to intercede on their behalf.

[DrokkIt]

Jaclyn Glenn has posted a video spilling the beans.

Lots of tears and snot.


CaughtUpLockedOut

Yikes, bad lighting.

Thing is, literally all the stereotypes about what band dudes are like, are true. You know what you are getting and that's a low-responsibility douche with access to easy no-strings ass.

I feel sorry her, she's coming across as a naive teenage girl in this. Next time pick less of a preening peacock eh.

Or get thicc-er.

[Cnutella]

Watching Fellowship of the Ring on TV. Gandalf has to be the lamest wizard in literature. The extent of his power is making a crystal glow.

The authors of Harvard Lampoon's Bored of the Rings noticed the same thin:

Goodgulf hastily withdrew a tinderbox from his robes and frantically striking sparks off the walls and floor, he managed to produce a flickering glow about half as bright as a dead firefly.

"Such magic," said Bromosel.

[jet_lagg]

Re: Wheaton. There's a time and a place to make certain statements. In the immediate aftermath of a mass shooting when someone says something that 90% of the population understands to mean something along the lines of "love, charity, and human solidarity are important and will ultimately triumph" it's a really bad moment to be seen as disagreeing and then call them a piece of shit. Wheaton blocks everyone not in political lockstep with him, so he doesn't see just how far he's got his head up his ass here.

[VickyCaramel]

Re: Wheaton. There's a time and a place to make certain statements. In the immediate aftermath of a mass shooting when someone says something that 90% of the population understands to mean something along the lines of "love, charity, and human solidarity are important and will ultimately triumph" it's a really bad moment to be seen as disagreeing and then call them a piece of shit. Wheaton blocks everyone not in political lockstep with him, so he doesn't see just how far he's got his head up his ass here.

Paul Ryan is a public political figure using a public platform to put out a statement. What Wheaton did was reply to that. And he has the nerve to call Ryan a piece of shit!

Time and place indeed.

[John D]

Jaclyn Glenn has posted a video spilling the beans.

Lots of tears and snot.


CaughtUpLockedOut

Yikes, bad lighting.

Thing is, literally all the stereotypes about what band dudes are like, are true. You know what you are getting and that's a low-responsibility douche with access to easy no-strings ass.

I feel sorry her, she's coming across as a naive teenage girl in this. Next time pick less of a preening peacock eh.

Or get thicc-er.

As a "nice" guy myself, these are my "told-you-so" moments. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't enjoy seeing people suffer. I feel pity for anyone who feels this terrible.

Still, do pretty girls learn nothing from watching hours of reality TV? The d-bag that created on his girl friend to be with you is the same d-bag that will cheat on you. I am pretty sure this is one of those lessons you learn in kindergarten. The lying shit that you catch lying to others will also, inevitable, lie to you. They have no honor or self respect and will inevitably get as tied of you as with everyone else in their life.

If you want to have a long term relationship with a "rocker-dood" then you should wait till they are just starting to get Alzheimer's. Just watch that Glen Campbell movie! Campbell went through a shit ton of wives till he landed the last one.... and the last one was some kind of Florence Nightingale.

[CommanderTuvok]

By the way ERV, are you gonna blog anywhere else with the shut down of science blogs?

No, I don't have time. You all know you can always message/email/Facebook me if you see something and want more info :)

How's Arnie, the Pit mascot, doing these days?

:animals-dogrun:

[Dick Strawkins]

He's been called insensitive to the victims. I don't think he is. This is garden -variety anti-GOP snark. Not very productive, but that's social media to you.

It's terribly insensitive to the victims, it's an angstrom away from victim blaming, it is victim blaming.

If prayers do nothing, then everything about the victims being in that church was a waste of time, energy and their lives. It also assumes people always pray to god for divine intervention, as opposed to praying to god for thanks for his various gifts to the world, to their community, to them. Or thanking god out of their joy for being alive. Or just praying and going to church as a social activity that provides them purpose and a way to create and channel charitable efforts, bind a community together, talk about community philosophy and morals.

And for whatever reason we find the shooter was attracted to that church, if prayer has no value, no purpose, does not work, then what he said is tantamount to blaming the victims for setting up and maintaining a church in the first place. A worthless, useless, bad influence on society that somehow made this asshole go crazy and kill them.

Later on, he says he tweeted that out of anger, presumably anger at Paul Ryan and Congress, but his anger led him to basically saying the victims were idiots to be blamed for their own deaths.

It was a huge violation of Wheaton's Law.

I think that Wheaton meant that Paul Ryan's prayers were useless since Ryan and the GOP oppose gun control, which Wheaton deems to be useful.

In any way I don't see why saying that prayers are useless victim blaming. Going to an Ariana Grande concert is also useless in stopping bullets or explosives, it doesn't mean that the people killed at Grande's concert are to blame.

This looks like reading too much in Wheaton's words and feeding into moral outrage.

It's weird that the main people getting upset at this are not the relatives of the victims, who have probably more pressing concerns at the moment rather than hanging out on twitter, but pro-gun folk who, a seem a little sensitive at the moment, for some unexplainable reason.

Their reactions in the wake of the latest 'nutter-with-an-M16-goes-postal' event always reminds me of Muslim
apologists after a truck of peace incident. They are never genuinely concerned with the victims but are offended to high heaven that they may be subject to awkward questions regarding how their beliefs may have contributed to the incident in question.
In the past few weeks we've had two suicidal individuals who have been able to easily access multiple military grade weapons and ammunition. Is anyone even slightly surprised that we see the kind of consequences we've witnessed.
I'm not even against gun ownership!
The issue for me is whether society can keep the types of semi-automatic guns (or practically fully automatic if modified with the legal stock that the Las Vegas shooter used) out of the hands of suicidal sociopaths.
The problem as I see it is that an individual may deteriorate mentally over the course of months. What may have been a sane, responsible individual last year may this year be a bitter individual with nothing to live for this year.
Yes, he can still kill with a handgun, knife or car but he's going to find it difficult to take out an entire congregation, school or concert venue unless he's got a military style rifle available.

[Shatterface]

the Times has an article about a famous British cyclist who is now a woman

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its- ... 3d34f57595

Transitioning should be easy. Just buy a bike without a cross bar.

[John D]

Re: Wheaton. There's a time and a place to make certain statements. In the immediate aftermath of a mass shooting when someone says something that 90% of the population understands to mean something along the lines of "love, charity, and human solidarity are important and will ultimately triumph" it's a really bad moment to be seen as disagreeing and then call them a piece of shit. Wheaton blocks everyone not in political lockstep with him, so he doesn't see just how far he's got his head up his ass here.

I have made this mistake before, when I was in my "I hate Christians" phase. This was before I realized that "my side" was often worse than our enemy. So... now... I spend more time just trying to get along with everyone (which comes very hard for me).

A life-long friend of mine is a Catholic and we would often argue. I was on some kind of "Nothing fails like a prayer" kick and he told me to fuck off and that he couldn't hang out with me anymore. I was too stubborn and stupid to put together the fact that his wife was fighting cancer (and is still getting chemo about once a year). Obviously, the prayer thing was pretty fucking important to him right then.

I tend to by hyper-analytical which is, perhaps, why I am an atheist. I just can't expect others to be just like me.

I am still correct when I say "Nothing fails like a prayer", but saying this is unnecessarily cruel in many cases. I have gotten back to hanging out with this friend again. We are both small government classic liberals so we agree on most things. His son is openly gay and he has no problem with it. I have lots of Catholic friends... and well... they have very complex moral lives... haha.

[shoutinghorse]

Breitbart are going down the 'crazy creepy Atheist' route re the Taxas church shooter.
Cos no mass murders in the name of God right?

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/11/ ... ns-stupid/

[feathers]

the Times has an article about a famous British cyclist who is now a woman

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its- ... 3d34f57595

Transitioning should be easy. Just buy a bike without a cross bar.

To the contrary, take a bike with a crossbar and don't use the SPDs while you hang in the breaks down Alpe d'Huez. Free transition.

[Shatterface]

The guy didn't shoot anyone the entire time he was a Christian.

It's only after he started reading WMDKitty at FA that he went mental.

[VickyCaramel]

The guy didn't shoot anyone the entire time he was a Christian.

It's only after he started reading WMDKitty at FA that he went mental.

Thats right, he just beat up his wife and kid.... once he lost religion, he totally lost his moral compass.

[John D]

Breitbart are going down the 'crazy creepy Atheist' route re the Taxas church shooter.
Cos no mass murders in the name of God right?

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/11/ ... ns-stupid/

It was only a matter of time. Atheist are really no "better" than anyone else.

Now we get to listen to all the fucking idiots on the right try to explain how this was caused by the lack of forced prayer in school. :roll:

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I notice that the insufferable Wil Wheaton is getting in trouble on twitter for the following tweet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN5i9yHUIAAvZA2.jpg

Much as I cannot stand WW, I don't see the problem with this.

How exactly is he wrong? :think:

He takes the observation that prayers do not work reliably as a shield to prevent bad things from happening (practically all people who pray know this) and concludes that prayers do no good at all (hardly anyone who prays thinks this). His conclusion does not actually follow, whatever you think about prayer.

B.

The War on Prayer is a losing proposition. Offering prayers is how people signal they care. If you attack the praying, you come across as dismissing the caring.

But this is the sort of thing you get from folks who also think throwing tampons at GOP legislators will improve women's rights.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I notice that the insufferable Wil Wheaton is getting in trouble on twitter for the following tweet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN5i9yHUIAAvZA2.jpg

Much as I cannot stand WW, I don't see the problem with this.

How exactly is he wrong? :think:

He takes the observation that prayers do not work reliably as a shield to prevent bad things from happening (practically all people who pray know this) and concludes that prayers do no good at all (hardly anyone who prays thinks this). His conclusion does not actually follow, whatever you think about prayer.

B.

The War on Prayer is a losing proposition. Offering prayers is how people signal they care. If you attack the praying, you come across as dismissing the caring.

But this is the sort of thing you get from folks who also think throwing tampons at GOP legislators will improve women's rights.

[Kirbmarc]

In any way I don't see why saying that prayers are useless victim blaming. Going to an Ariana Grande concert is also useless in stopping bullets or explosives, it doesn't mean that the people killed at Grande's concert are to blame.

Ryan would still say: Reports out are devastating. The victims need our prayers right now.

Wheaton would not say "The murdered victims were in a stadium. If songs did anything, they'd still be alive, you worthless sack of shit."

Wheaton might say "Prayers won't do jack shit dumbass, pass some fucking laws"

If Wheaton said "Ariana Grande? Pfft. Those idiot teens had it coming for liking her!" it would certainly be victim blaming, but I think it's the same or darn close to what he did say "They were in a church! If prayers did anything, they'd still be alive, you worthless sack of shit."

It's grossly disrespectful to the victims and either the kinds of songs they like or their belief systems to attack them and devalue them just to attack Ryan.

Add to that that if Wheaton thinks people go to Church to get god to intercede on their behalf, then Wheaton is saying, these people were not good enough, even by their own standards to get god to intercede on their behalf.

Yeah, I think I get it now. Wheaton phrased his tweet badly and it got interpreted as an attack on the victims. If he said "How about some legislative action instead of just prayers, you worthless sack of shit?" very likely nobody would have complained. I really don't see how he's saying that victims had it coming, but it wasn't the best way for him to phrase his idea.

[John D]

Breitbart are going down the 'crazy creepy Atheist' route re the Taxas church shooter.
Cos no mass murders in the name of God right?

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/11/ ... ns-stupid/

It was only a matter of time. Atheist are really no "better" than anyone else.

Now we get to listen to all the fucking idiots on the right try to explain how this was caused by the lack of forced prayer in school. :roll:

and... wow... those comments on Breitbart... the number of people who are a cosmic level of stupid is a wonder to behold.

It reminds me of the scarecrow scene in The Wizard of OZ.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

When I see that cartoon avatar of Will Wheaton, I imagine it's him looking down, and realizing he has no balls.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

When I see that cartoon avatar of Will Wheaton, I imagine it's him looking down, and realizing he has no balls.

[VickyCaramel]

It's weird that the main people getting upset at this are not the relatives of the victims, who have probably more pressing concerns at the moment rather than hanging out on twitter, but pro-gun folk who, a seem a little sensitive at the moment, for some unexplainable reason.

Their reactions in the wake of the latest 'nutter-with-an-M16-goes-postal' event always reminds me of Muslim
apologists after a truck of peace incident. They are never genuinely concerned with the victims but are offended to high heaven that they may be subject to awkward questions regarding how their beliefs may have contributed to the incident in question.
In the past few weeks we've had two suicidal individuals who have been able to easily access multiple military grade weapons and ammunition. Is anyone even slightly surprised that we see the kind of consequences we've witnessed.
I'm not even against gun ownership!
The issue for me is whether society can keep the types of semi-automatic guns (or practically fully automatic if modified with the legal stock that the Las Vegas shooter used) out of the hands of suicidal sociopaths.
The problem as I see it is that an individual may deteriorate mentally over the course of months. What may have been a sane, responsible individual last year may this year be a bitter individual with nothing to live for this year.
Yes, he can still kill with a handgun, knife or car but he's going to find it difficult to take out an entire congregation, school or concert venue unless he's got a military style rifle available.

The problem you have is that the military style is just that, it is cosmetic style. The vast majority of handguns now are semi-automatic, so are a large number of rifles. There isn't anything particularly special about an AR-15.

I mentioned earlier the 1986 Miami shootout where a former Army Ranger turned a Ruger Mini-14 on the FBI. Witnesses reported hearing machinegun fire because the shooter was practiced at firing the gun fast, it was however a standard semi-auto. You can get the same effect as a bump-stock by firing from the hip and using your belt through the trigger-guard.

These rifles are not really "military grade", inasmuch as they aren't full auto. But what gun isn't military grade? A Musket was once military grade, shotguns are military grade.

But even if it is military grade, so what? The Second Amendment is about bearing arms which can be used against the government, it is not about what's suitable for deer hunting or chasing off burglars.

There is practically nothing you can do. You can't ban semi-automatics, and even if you could, where would you draw that line?

Besides, it is looking like the shooter was holding the gun illegally if it is true that his court martial counts as a felony conviction. I think the only direction you can go with this is to look at taking away the rights of certain people to possess a gun. Even that is a minefield because you are talking about taking away people's rights.

I'm in England, they already banned guns here so I don't really have a dog in this fight. I think one of the reasons that gun advocates get so upset about talk about gun control is that gun control advocates are so misinformed and forward arguments which are completely nonsensical or impractical. So their sensitivity is hardly without reason.

[MarcusAu]

Like the old saw goes:

"To err is human but to really fuck things up requires a computer"

The same thing goes with social media - rather than offend people one at time - now you can do it on an industrial scale.

I pretty much agree with Wheaton's thoughts on prayer, and am fine with him saying it in public. It it generates push-back then that is how his opinion may be modified, or at least people will know to avoid him.

nb These sentiments are (probably) not what I would say (at least not at this time). But you know - we can all fuck up in our own ways.

[VickyCaramel]

Like the old saw goes:

"To err is human but to really fuck things up requires a computer"

The same thing goes with social media - rather than offend people one at time - now you can do it on an industrial scale.

I pretty much agree with Wheaton's thoughts on prayer, and am fine with him saying it in public. It it generates push-back then that is how his opinion may be modified, or at least people will know to avoid him.

nb These sentiments are (probably) not what I would say (at least not at this time). But you know - we can all fuck up in our own ways.

I made a fairly sick joke about it on the previous page. I also think it's okay to laugh about it on a three hour live stream with your mates. I really think that tweeting at the speaker of the house was ill advised.

I think it is as was said before with Sargon. If police attend a bloody crime and partake in gallows humour, that's probably a healthy thing, but it would be insensitive to share their jokes with the families of the victims.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

The guy didn't shoot anyone the entire time he was a Christian.

It's only after he started reading WMDKitty at FA that he went mental.

Reading WMDKitty might make you want to shoot someone.
WMDKItty, for example.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

The guy didn't shoot anyone the entire time he was a Christian.

It's only after he started reading WMDKitty at FA that he went mental.

Reading WMDKitty might make you want to shoot someone.
WMDKItty, for example.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

But even if it is military grade, so what? The Second Amendment is about bearing arms which can be used against the government, it is not about what's suitable for deer hunting or chasing off burglars.

The Battle of Lexington & Concord happened because the British went to seize a cannon from the well-regulated militia. The 2nd Amendment has jack shit to do with private ownership of arms for private protection.

Besides, it is looking like the shooter was holding the gun illegally if it is true that his court martial counts as a felony conviction. I think the only direction you can go with this is to look at taking away the rights of certain people to possess a gun. Even that is a minefield because you are talking about taking away people's rights.

We take away rights from people all the time. Felons can't vote, or own guns. Crazy people are 5150'd.

Practically, it's impossible to keep guns out of the hands of either felons or crazies. Adam Lanza wasn't allowed to own guns, but his mom was.

Banning certain types of weapons is fine with me. But the greatest impact would be tighter controls on clearly lunatic or violent individuals. There are 100 million gun owners in the US. 99.99% of them don't go on rampages. 100% of the rampagers are whack jobs.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

But even if it is military grade, so what? The Second Amendment is about bearing arms which can be used against the government, it is not about what's suitable for deer hunting or chasing off burglars.

The Battle of Lexington & Concord happened because the British went to seize a cannon from the well-regulated militia. The 2nd Amendment has jack shit to do with private ownership of arms for private protection.

Besides, it is looking like the shooter was holding the gun illegally if it is true that his court martial counts as a felony conviction. I think the only direction you can go with this is to look at taking away the rights of certain people to possess a gun. Even that is a minefield because you are talking about taking away people's rights.

We take away rights from people all the time. Felons can't vote, or own guns. Crazy people are 5150'd.

Practically, it's impossible to keep guns out of the hands of either felons or crazies. Adam Lanza wasn't allowed to own guns, but his mom was.

Banning certain types of weapons is fine with me. But the greatest impact would be tighter controls on clearly lunatic or violent individuals. There are 100 million gun owners in the US. 99.99% of them don't go on rampages. 100% of the rampagers are whack jobs.

[DrokkIt]

As a "nice" guy myself, these are my "told-you-so" moments. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't enjoy seeing people suffer. I feel pity for anyone who feels this terrible.

Still, do pretty girls learn nothing from watching hours of reality TV? The d-bag that created on his girl friend to be with you is the same d-bag that will cheat on you. I am pretty sure this is one of those lessons you learn in kindergarten. The lying shit that you catch lying to others will also, inevitable, lie to you. They have no honor or self respect and will inevitably get as tied of you as with everyone else in their life.

If you want to have a long term relationship with a "rocker-dood" then you should wait till they are just starting to get Alzheimer's. Just watch that Glen Campbell movie! Campbell went through a shit ton of wives till he landed the last one.... and the last one was some kind of Florence Nightingale.

It's common sense. Even the most straight-laced touring muso is going to be away *all the time*. That means lots of long boring evenings after gigs, probably drinking and doing drugs, probably with local skirt around up for a shag.

It's absolutely the same for chicks in bands, complete access to strange road dick whenever they fancy it.

I've played in bands for decades at this point, toured Europe etc, and I've seen it countless times.

The setup this guy operates tells you precisely that he likes attention, and he has past form on cheating. It's sad for her but it is what it is- this douche was always going to fuck around no matter what, he's a young guy being showered with attention and that will tempt pretty much anyone.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Thing is, literally all the stereotypes about what band dudes are like, are true. You know what you are getting and that's a low-responsibility douche with access to easy no-strings ass.

I feel sorry her, she's coming across as a naive teenage girl in this. Next time pick less of a preening peacock eh.

Or get thicc-er.

As a "nice" guy myself, these are my "told-you-so" moments. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't enjoy seeing people suffer. I feel pity for anyone who feels this terrible.

Still, do pretty girls learn nothing from watching hours of reality TV? The d-bag that created on his girl friend to be with you is the same d-bag that will cheat on you. I am pretty sure this is one of those lessons you learn in kindergarten. The lying shit that you catch lying to others will also, inevitable, lie to you. They have no honor or self respect and will inevitably get as tied of you as with everyone else in their life.

If you want to have a long term relationship with a "rocker-dood" then you should wait till they are just starting to get Alzheimer's. Just watch that Glen Campbell movie! Campbell went through a shit ton of wives till he landed the last one.... and the last one was some kind of Florence Nightingale.

I feel a bit targeted here.

#NotAllRockerDoods

[John D]

Thing is, literally all the stereotypes about what band dudes are like, are true. You know what you are getting and that's a low-responsibility douche with access to easy no-strings ass.

I feel sorry her, she's coming across as a naive teenage girl in this. Next time pick less of a preening peacock eh.

Or get thicc-er.

As a "nice" guy myself, these are my "told-you-so" moments. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't enjoy seeing people suffer. I feel pity for anyone who feels this terrible.

Still, do pretty girls learn nothing from watching hours of reality TV? The d-bag that created on his girl friend to be with you is the same d-bag that will cheat on you. I am pretty sure this is one of those lessons you learn in kindergarten. The lying shit that you catch lying to others will also, inevitable, lie to you. They have no honor or self respect and will inevitably get as tied of you as with everyone else in their life.

If you want to have a long term relationship with a "rocker-dood" then you should wait till they are just starting to get Alzheimer's. Just watch that Glen Campbell movie! Campbell went through a shit ton of wives till he landed the last one.... and the last one was some kind of Florence Nightingale.

I feel a bit targeted here.

#NotAllRockerDoods

Are you a rocker apologist?