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Pipe bomb exploded near NY/NJ Port Authority bus terminal in NYC. injuries reported, suspect in custody, early speculative internet finger pointing rampant.
I don't recall pipe bombs being the bread & butter of muslim terrorists. You say pipe-bomb and I typically think of foolish kids or red necks screwing around. And this wasn't a school.

I'm going to gamble my money on a home grown adult nutcase. Probably white.

Of course since this is an early report, they could be very wrong about it being a pipe bomb.
true, could always be a misreported workplace accident, i’m sure some facts will be forthcoming rather quickly.
being it was at the bus terminal, the city govt. will want to get this settled quick.
Pipe bombs suicide vests aren't a common trope in Muslim terror?
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deLurch wrote:
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true, could always be a misreported workplace accident, i’m sure some facts will be forthcoming rather quickly.
being it was at the bus terminal, the city govt. will want to get this settled quick.
When something big like this happens, it seems at least half of all the initially reported facts turn out to be wrong. And you don't know which facts are wrong. About the only thing you can do is to wait 48 hours for everything to settle down and get the confirmed facts after everyone, reporters included, have calmed down.
One wonders how many conspiracy theories have been birthed by early innaccurate reporting.

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While Bill Bratton may have an inside track or source of information, he’s the former police commisioner of NYC.
I can’t see how he can confirm anything at this point.

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deLurch wrote:
Spike13 wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:27 am
Pipe bomb exploded near NY/NJ Port Authority bus terminal in NYC. injuries reported, suspect in custody, early speculative internet finger pointing rampant.
I don't recall pipe bombs being the bread & butter of muslim terrorists. You say pipe-bomb and I typically think of foolish kids or red necks screwing around. And this wasn't a school.

I'm going to gamble my money on a home grown adult nutcase. Probably white.

Of course since this is an early report, they could be very wrong about it being a pipe bomb.
These terrorists don't have the Warsaw Pact funneling arms to them through North African dictators. They have been writing their own chapters of the anarchist's cook book since the beginning.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: A different view of millennials and their communism than the standard spoiled brat one.
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He's completely right.

That's exactly why we NEED some kind of New Deal, social democratic alternative to give millennials more chances of getting out of debt/wage slavery.

Because the alternative is that millennials will vote in for any authoritarian that will promise them that.

That's why the corporate-friendly elites have to realize that they HAVE to stop filling their own pockets at the expense of those who are caught into the worst parts of the system.

The working class in the Rust Belt had Trump, the millennials have communism. In both cases you have to understand WHY these people are making the choices that they're making, and HOW you can deal with their issues in a more productive way.

You can't just call people idiots or insane or racist or spoiled brats without even TRYING to figure out WHY they're acting in the way they do, and HOW to deal with their issues in a rational way. That's not being clever, it's being a fucking smug cunt.
They have other problems beside debt.
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There is perhaps a confluence of 3 major factors working against millenials, and the rest of us by consequence. You have the debt issue, the problem of social media and the resultant lack of socialisation and coping/conflict resolution skills. And then on top of that, you have the decades of ideological undermining by PoMo feminist activists coming to fruition in academia. We really are fucked right now. Whilst the millennial commies are a problem and their existence is not that surprising given the world they were born into, the agitators from older generations (looking at you Myers) can rot in hell AFAIAC.
So... I'm gonna toss my thoughts out here... and they are different than most.

Every generation has complaints about the generation just younger than them.... and even more complaints about those two generations younger (a generation being about 20 years or so using modern conventions... Boomers, Gen Xers, Millennials). This has ALWAYS been true. Just take a look at the business school articles from 20 years ago. Yeah... I was in business school 20 years ago and half the time was spent bitching about the lazy no-good Gen Xers. Haha. This is constant. I learned 20 years ago in business school that these employees coming up need to feel included and need to feel valued and blah...blah...blah... Well, these management techniques are not new. It has always been best if employees feel included and valuable etc.

But, really what is happening is that us old people have developed much better work habits than we had when we were young. As we have gotten older we have gotten more responsible. We have developed life patterns that help us manage our work, show up on time, be more productive, ignore the small stuff.... etc....etc....etc... This ALWAYS happens and it always will.

My generation never expected to live off a job at McDonalds. These entry level jobs always were shit and you could never live on them. If you were lucky you could make enough for gas money while you lived with your parents. The clever among us would find ways to get better jobs while we went to school. This is what I did. I worked a job that taught me some skills and worked full time, while I went to night school for 13 YEARS! So, I don't have much patience for the young people who tell me they have it worse. No... they really don't. Sure, Uni is more expensive, but there are plenty of opportunities to make it work.

In the Detroit area there are about 50,000 open jobs for skilled workers..... Machinists, welders, etc. There are companies that will hire you right out of High School and train you. There are tons of middle class jobs where you can work hard, make a living, and go to night school. Hell, most of these companies will pay for night school too. The young people who are motivated and realize they need to work can find work.

What I think we are actually seeing is that Millennials, more that prior generations, are finding it acceptable to live with their parents for longer periods. I don't think this is a bad thing necessarily. I think what we are seeing is that there is less conflict between the generations over social issues. When I was 18yo we could not wait to get our own place so we could party and fuck. But, this is less of an issue these days. Hell.... many parents of my generation partied more than our kids (I know this is true for me and my kids). My kids party way less than I did.

So... yeah... that's about it I guess. Kids are always less responsible than older people.... because they are kids. Life has always been pretty fucking hard... and it still is pretty fucking hard.

Oh... and the communism thing. Lots of people are commies now because lots of people are stupid (and lots of people always have been stupid), and we are no longer fighting the Chinese and Soviets. We are bound to see lots of stupid fucking commies.... because people are lazy and stupid.... and we are less scared of commies than we used to be. When we were scared the stupid people were more likely to hate commies. Stupid people are now less scared of commies and more scared of straight white men. So it goes.....

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Video of the Amish explosion.


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This is allegedly a photo of the bomber.
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Cheggers won't be playing no pop no more, apparently...

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Akayed Ullah was probably just an MRA motivated by misogyny.

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Lsuoma wrote: Cheggers won't be playing no pop no more, apparently...
I really thought that this one might have flown below the radar.

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MarcusAu wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: Cheggers won't be playing no pop no more, apparently...
I really thought that this one might have flown below the radar.

Can't say I was a fan, if truth be told I always thought he was a prat and could never quite see what Maggie Philbin ever saw in him, but I had respect for the bloke later when he overcame his alcoholism and somewhat relaunched his career.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42313706

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shoutinghorse wrote: Can't say I was a fan, if truth be told I always thought he was a prat and could never quite see what Maggie Philbin ever saw in him,
Did Naked Jungle give you no clues?

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VickyCaramel wrote: This is allegedly a photo of the bomber.

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I must say that does look painful, lets hope it lasts. :happy-bouncyredfire:

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Thankfully the majority of these lone wolfs are fucking retarded.

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As Akayed Ullah only hurt himself, the people who claim more people are killed by toasters than by Islamic terrorists in the USA don't have to update their figures.

I wonder why they never compare failed and foiled Islamic terrorists attacks with the number of failed and foiled toaster attacks.

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VickyCaramel wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote: Can't say I was a fan, if truth be told I always thought he was a prat and could never quite see what Maggie Philbin ever saw in him,
Did Naked Jungle give you no clues?
Being a prat or what attracted Maggie Philbin? ;) ;) :lol:

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deLurch wrote: Thankfully the majority of these lone wolfs are fucking retarded.
So Mugfriend fits the profile...

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VickyCaramel wrote: This is allegedly a photo of the bomber.

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NYPD should release him -- he was only aiming to blow up a sea lion.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
VickyCaramel wrote: This is allegedly a photo of the bomber.

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NYPD should release him -- he was only aiming to blow up a sea lion.
An eskimo takes his ski-doo to a garage.
The mechanic says, "It looks like you've blown a seal".
The Eskimo says, "It's just a little ice on my moustache".
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I'm fucking hammering Facciani with quotes from his own pomo paper on sexism in atheism, but he has left the building.

The more I read of it, the more it's just a whine fest that social sciences don't get no respect:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingt ... 3657232924

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VickyCaramel wrote: An eskimo takes his ski-doo to a garage.
The mechanic says, "It looks like you've blown a seal".
The Eskimo says, "It's just a little ice on my moustache".
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Wow, Vicky -- you managed to be racist, colonialist and homophobic all in one joke. I'm reporting you to our Diversity and Literally Violence Officer.

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My generation never expected to live off a job at McDonalds. These entry level jobs always were shit and you could never live on them. If you were lucky you could make enough for gas money while you lived with your parents. The clever among us would find ways to get better jobs while we went to school. This is what I did. I worked a job that taught me some skills and worked full time, while I went to night school for 13 YEARS! So, I don't have much patience for the young people who tell me they have it worse. No... they really don't. Sure, Uni is more expensive, but there are plenty of opportunities to make it work.

In the Detroit area there are about 50,000 open jobs for skilled workers..... Machinists, welders, etc. There are companies that will hire you right out of High School and train you. There are tons of middle class jobs where you can work hard, make a living, and go to night school. Hell, most of these companies will pay for night school too. The young people who are motivated and realize they need to work can find work.

What I think we are actually seeing is that Millennials, more that prior generations, are finding it acceptable to live with their parents for longer periods. I don't think this is a bad thing necessarily. I think what we are seeing is that there is less conflict between the generations over social issues. When I was 18yo we could not wait to get our own place so we could party and fuck. But, this is less of an issue these days. Hell.... many parents of my generation partied more than our kids (I know this is true for me and my kids). My kids party way less than I did.

So... yeah... that's about it I guess. Kids are always less responsible than older people.... because they are kids. Life has always been pretty fucking hard... and it still is pretty fucking hard.

Oh... and the communism thing. Lots of people are commies now because lots of people are stupid (and lots of people always have been stupid), and we are no longer fighting the Chinese and Soviets. We are bound to see lots of stupid fucking commies.... because people are lazy and stupid.... and we are less scared of commies than we used to be. When we were scared the stupid people were more likely to hate commies. Stupid people are now less scared of commies and more scared of straight white men. So it goes.....
Random thoughts:

Faux Churchill Quote: "If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain."

So "we all" went through / go through that communist phase, in large part because we have hearts, and more and more because we have no direct experience or taught history with Communism. That's why Che is so cool. We don't have a fucking clue who Che was.

I see my kids on twitter, they arent posting communist stuff, but they post various SJ liberal things that I, as not SJ, disagree with, but still I am proud they are active, and have a heart, (and most importantly a good sense of humor).

The problem I see with so many millennials is college and society is failing them radically.

They've been taught that 7 years in college is great. That college is extended camp with friends. And that the jobs out of college are baristas, adn that for all that, they now are $200K in debt.

And more and more they are taught "everything in society is problematic and you have to point that out".

No fucking wonder they have no problem either complaining, or seeking communism, or trying to overthrow the system. They are bored and we have not prepared them for life. We should question our privilege? They are Generation Privilege!

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Kirbmarc wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:55 am
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That's exactly why we NEED some kind of New Deal, social democratic alternative to give millennials more chances of getting out of debt/wage slavery.

Because the alternative is that millennials will vote in for any authoritarian that will promise them that.
Back when the unemployment was 10% in the US, I was all for some sort of CCC work program for those who could not find work. And this period of unemployment was what significantly affected millennials.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_ ... tion_Corps

But now that the unemployment rate is back down to a crisp 4%, our economy is doing well and job opportunities are competitive again, I see no need for this.

And while people were impacted by the high unemployment rate, people started having important conversations. Is a college degree economically worth while? Is working in a skilled trade a better opportunity than college? Maybe a degree in liberal arts isn't worth while (the whole gender studies barista joke). Perhaps teens are better off with a degree in a solid earning field such as nursing or STEM.

And if I am not mistaken, teaching jobs are still readily available in rural areas for those who have a bachelors degree, and college reimbursement is part of that package. The tough part is those individuals have to be willing to move to work, and may not be working their dream job or living in an ultra-hip area. People have to learn that they will need to make sacrifices if they want to pay their bills, put a roof over their head, and food on their plate.

Nope. Right now we are fine. High school graduates just need proper guidance.
This might be true in the US. In Europe youth unemployment is at an all-time high.
Did you consider that the main reason for that is that Europe, to a far greater extent than the U.S., embraced social democratic policies, while the U.S., after ensuring capital liquidity (don't want to imply there wasn't some heavy duty government action going on after the 2008 crisis), let the mean old market re-equilibrate? I reject that millennials are in unprecedented unworkable economic situation. Demographically, I'm a late baby boomer/early generation X. I grew up during the '70s stagflation era and my late adolescence was greeted by the twin early '80s recessions. And these were hard core recessions, with 10% inflation, 10%+ unemployment rates and 20% interest rates, compared to the relatively gentle one of 2007-2012. I recall then reading about how rough things were going to be for my cohort now that the baby boom expectation of the economy doubling in size every 20 years had crumbled to dust and just maintaining current standards was going to be a challenge, and that we were never going to be afford homes of our own. In the US,Canada,and the UK, generally conservative policies were pursued in the 80's and things mostly righted themselves There were no shortage of communists among young gen-Xers at the time In grad school, I was president of my department's graduate student union for a term, and while, as was typical in STEM departments, we were non-political and focused on bringing in speakers and organizing social events, I always got a laugh when attending the university's all-department graduate student union meetings. Room full of proto-hipsters fantasizing they were latter day Che Guevara's and Leon Trotsky's and this was a meeting of the El Norte Sandanistas. Now, this age cohort is the mainstay of support for their country's respective right leaning parties.

The one issue that may genuinely affect millennials more than prior generations, high rates of graduation with non-marketable degrees and boat loads of debt, is largely the result of social democratic policies. Guaranteeing loans to anyone who would be admitted to an accredited university acted as price support for the universities as they raised their spending and tuition multiple times the rate of inflation for a few decades. Combine this with social justice universities that accepted all comers or had extremely low admission standards and you had a recipe for disaster. Students attended these institutions to play revolutionary for a few years and fantasize they were part of society's intellectual elite only to graduate with a useless degree and crushing debt to begin the quiet desperation era of their lives. They would have been far better off without the social democratic help, go to college only if they were highly qualified and motivated, and otherwise go to technical school or into apprenticeship for a trade.

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Next accusation is out:

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Did you consider that the main reason for that is that Europe, to a far greater extent than the U.S., embraced social democratic policies, while the U.S., after ensuring capital liquidity (don't want to imply there wasn't some heavy duty government action going on after the 2008 crisis), let the mean old market re-equilibrate? I reject that millennials are in unprecedented unworkable economic situation. Demographically, I'm a late baby boomer/early generation X. I grew up during the '70s stagflation era and my late adolescence was greeted by the twin early '80s recessions. And these were hard core recessions, with 10% inflation, 10%+ unemployment rates and 20% interest rates, compared to the relatively gentle one of 2007-2012. I recall then reading about how rough things were going to be for my cohort now that the baby boom expectation of the economy doubling in size every 20 years had crumbled to dust and just maintaining current standards was going to be a challenge, and that we were never going to be afford homes of our own. In the US,Canada,and the UK, generally conservative policies were pursued in the 80's and things mostly righted themselves There were no shortage of communists among young gen-Xers at the time In grad school, I was president of my department's graduate student union for a term, and while, as was typical in STEM departments, we were non-political and focused on bringing in speakers and organizing social events, I always got a laugh when attending the university's all-department graduate student union meetings. Room full of proto-hipsters fantasizing they were latter day Che Guevara's and Leon Trotsky's and this was a meeting of the El Norte Sandanistas. Now, this age cohort is the mainstay of support for their country's respective right leaning parties.

The one issue that may genuinely affect millennials more than prior generations, high rates of graduation with non-marketable degrees and boat loads of debt, is largely the result of social democratic policies. Guaranteeing loans to anyone who would be admitted to an accredited university acted as price support for the universities as they raised their spending and tuition multiple times the rate of inflation for a few decades. Combine this with social justice universities that accepted all comers or had extremely low admission standards and you had a recipe for disaster. Students attended these institutions to play revolutionary for a few years and fantasize they were part of society's intellectual elite only to graduate with a useless degree and crushing debt to begin the quiet desperation era of their lives. They would have been far better off without the social democratic help, go to college only if they were highly qualified and motivated, and otherwise go to technical school or into apprenticeship for a trade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRGRvE_Wqg

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As Akayed Ullah only hurt himself, the people who claim more people are killed by toasters than by Islamic terrorists in the USA don't have to update their figures.

I wonder why they never compare failed and foiled Islamic terrorists attacks with the number of failed and foiled toaster attacks.
A fucking toaster oven, likely of Asian, possibly North Korean origin, burned down a little old lady's house just down the block from me last week. She wasn't harmed but one of her cats unfortunately perished. Where was the national news coverage?
How come Steersman never posts about sending all the toaster ovens back to Asia? :hand:

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deLurch wrote:
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Thankfully the majority of these lone wolfs are fucking retarded.
Well considering wolves are pack animals being a wolf going their own way must be a miserable existence.

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Really? wrote: Next accusation is out:
Did i hear Dustin Hoffman in in the firing line? Is that old news?

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I don't know much about real wolf behaviour.

Are natural lone wolves fierce, independent creatures, or are they runts the pack doesn't want running with them?

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Shatterface wrote: I don't know much about real wolf behaviour.

Are natural lone wolves fierce, independent creatures, or are they runts the pack doesn't want running with them?
The "pack" is actually a family with a mature male a mature female and their offspring. When the offspring become sexually mature they get the boot, or sooner if food is scarce. New packs are formed by the "dispersed" or lone wolves when unrelated males and females pair up.

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Interesting analogy calling Muslim terrorists 'lone wolves' when Muslims have a loathing of dogs.

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shoutinghorse wrote: Interesting analogy calling Muslim terrorists 'lone wolves' when Muslims have a loathing of dogs.
as if you needed any more proof about how twisted this backward ideology is. Music,dancing, dogs, even bacon! Is there anything worthwhile that these cunts like?

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12 cans of diet coke a day .. OMG how does he function :o




(Churchill won a war whilst permanently pissed)
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free thoughtpolice wrote:
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:18 am
As Akayed Ullah only hurt himself, the people who claim more people are killed by toasters than by Islamic terrorists in the USA don't have to update their figures.

I wonder why they never compare failed and foiled Islamic terrorists attacks with the number of failed and foiled toaster attacks.
A fucking toaster oven, likely of Asian, possibly North Korean origin, burned down a little old lady's house just down the block from me last week. She wasn't harmed but one of her cats unfortunately perished. Where was the national news coverage?
How come Steersman never posts about sending all the toaster ovens back to Asia? :hand:
#NotAllToasterOvens ... :P

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He's Bangladeshi not Japanese. I 'spect you think all Asians look alike.

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http://archive.is/Ko551
OBERLIN, Ohio (AP) — Students at Oberlin College have long enjoyed pastries, bagels and chocolates from Gibson's Bakery, a century-old, family-owned business near campus. That sweet relationship has turned bitter amid hotly disputed accusations of racism, roiling a school and town long known for their liberal politics.
The dispute, which began in November 2016 with the arrest of three black Oberlin students who tried stealing wine from Gibson's, is now a lawsuit in which the exasperated bakery owners accuse the college and a top dean of slandering Gibson's as a "racist establishment" and taking steps to destroy the family's livelihood.
The three students arrested at Gibson's pleaded guilty in August to attempted theft and aggravated trespassing and said in statements required by a plea agreement that their actions were wrong and that the store wasn't racist.
Even so, students continue to boycott Gibson's over perceived racial profiling, causing business to suffer. Pressed by a reporter to provide evidence or examples of profiling, they said only that when black students enter the store, they feel as though they're being watched.
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I hope that pipe bomber managed to blow his own dick and balls off.

Reminds me of that "underpants bomber". Fucking retarded cunts.

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windy wrote: http://archive.is/Ko551
OBERLIN, Ohio (AP) — Students at Oberlin College have long enjoyed pastries, bagels and chocolates from Gibson's Bakery, a century-old, family-owned business near campus. That sweet relationship has turned bitter amid hotly disputed accusations of racism, roiling a school and town long known for their liberal politics.
The dispute, which began in November 2016 with the arrest of three black Oberlin students who tried stealing wine from Gibson's, is now a lawsuit in which the exasperated bakery owners accuse the college and a top dean of slandering Gibson's as a "racist establishment" and taking steps to destroy the family's livelihood.
The three students arrested at Gibson's pleaded guilty in August to attempted theft and aggravated trespassing and said in statements required by a plea agreement that their actions were wrong and that the store wasn't racist.
Even so, students continue to boycott Gibson's over perceived racial profiling, causing business to suffer. Pressed by a reporter to provide evidence or examples of profiling, they said only that when black students enter the store, they feel as though they're being watched.
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Problem: Students are boycotting your business and the school is backing them because today the inmates run the asylum.

What to do: Place a large sign in the window informing the public that do to rampant shoplifting,Students and staff are banned from entering and will be refused service if they do.

This will trigger their “you can’t tell me what to do” relex amd your store will be besieged by people trying to prove their po-mo cred by getting served.

that or they burn the place to the ground and you collect the insurance money and relocate to a place where people appreciate fine baked goods.

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Potentially awkward dilemma for Hollywood virtue signaller and SJW Mark Ruffalo, esp. if this poor Keaton kid continues to be trashed as some sort of white supremacist racist whatever.....


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CommanderTuvok wrote: I hope that pipe bomber managed to blow his own dick and balls off.

Reminds me of that "underpants bomber". Fucking retarded cunts.
Kinda dampens the whole 72-virgins-for-eternity incentive.

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Steersman wrote:
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Looks like "she" - I assume - is getting both barrels. But speaking of Patheos & the support for "polyfuckists" and transgenderism - weren't we?
I take no issue with the polyamourus unless they are busy trying to police my sexuality.

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CommanderTuvok wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:16 pm
Potentially awkward dilemma for Hollywood virtue signaller and SJW Mark Ruffalo, esp. if this poor Keaton kid continues to be trashed as some sort of white supremacist racist whatever.....
The kid isn't responsible for the nature of his mother. I haven't dug into his mother, but there are stars & bars flags, and a comment about "whites sticking together" against "predators."



His mother doesn't seem to be to bright (thus she is naturally poor).

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Ryan Lizza, writer for the New Yorker fired because of anonymous accuser making accusations.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/ ... uct-290504
Meanwhile, lunatic right wing shit stirrer Mike Cernovich has a list similar to the "those who will be named" site that was fingering atheists that were supposed rapists.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/ ... ist-244180
I wonder how many people are going to be ruined by this that are innocent or are charged with trivial shit.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Ryan Lizza, writer for the New Yorker fired because of anonymous accuser making accusations.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/ ... uct-290504
Meanwhile, lunatic right wing shit stirrer Mike Cernovich has a list similar to the "those who will be named" site that was fingering atheists that were supposed rapists.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/ ... ist-244180
I wonder how many people are going to be ruined by this that are innocent or are charged with trivial shit.
free thoughtpolice wrote: Ryan Lizza, writer for the New Yorker fired because of anonymous accuser making accusations.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/ ... uct-290504
Meanwhile, lunatic right wing shit stirrer Mike Cernovich has a list similar to the "those who will be named" site that was fingering atheists that were supposed rapists.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/ ... ist-244180
I wonder how many people are going to be ruined by this that are innocent or are charged with trivial shit.
A lot. That's why presumption of innocence exists, and why internet vigilantes (of all political or social stripe) and trial by media are cancer.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Ryan Lizza, writer for the New Yorker fired because of anonymous accuser making accusations.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/ ... uct-290504
Meanwhile, lunatic right wing shit stirrer Mike Cernovich has a list similar to the "those who will be named" site that was fingering atheists that were supposed rapists.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/ ... ist-244180
I wonder how many people are going to be ruined by this that are innocent or are charged with trivial shit.
I'm guessing you just made a mistake. The list isn't about "atheists," but "men in media." The list was compiled anonymously by women who accused men of everything from flirting to hardcore rape.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... ic-1053468
Near-daily disclosures of misconduct from N.Y. and L.A. men — as outlined in a since-deleted spreadsheet of "Shitty Media Men" — have blanketed the landscape with a palpable unease: "We all wake up thinking, 'Who's next?'"
Dayna Evans, a freelance writer in Brooklyn, was working at her apartment on Oct. 11 when she received a link to a Google spreadsheet curiously titled "Shitty Media Men."

"When I first got it, there were 12 or so names on it, and you could see people editing it," says Evans. "I still remember even then thinking how few men there were on it considering how many of them have power." She left her computer for a few hours, and when she returned, the number had ballooned to more than 50 (a version obtained by The Hollywood Reporter includes 72 names), covering an array of outlets, including The New Yorker, The New Republic, The New York Times, Harper's, Mother Jones, BuzzFeed and New York.
Whatever you think about Cernovich, if this is the game we're playing: that you can accuse someone anonymously of something that isn't bad and they lose their job...okay. That's the game we're playing. If that means every man from the Times, Vox, Rolling Stone, Washington Post, etc. is fired? So be it. This is what they wanted.

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Intersectional Engineering, where academic rigor is for shitlords, science is colonialist and racist, and "other ways of knowing" are accepted :bjarte:

This is getting much worse than the Creationism fad.

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Really? wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Ryan Lizza, writer for the New Yorker fired because of anonymous accuser making accusations.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/ ... uct-290504
Meanwhile, lunatic right wing shit stirrer Mike Cernovich has a list similar to the "those who will be named" site that was fingering atheists that were supposed rapists.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/ ... ist-244180
I wonder how many people are going to be ruined by this that are innocent or are charged with trivial shit.
I'm guessing you just made a mistake. The list isn't about "atheists," but "men in media." The list was compiled anonymously by women who accused men of everything from flirting to hardcore rape.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... ic-1053468
Near-daily disclosures of misconduct from N.Y. and L.A. men — as outlined in a since-deleted spreadsheet of "Shitty Media Men" — have blanketed the landscape with a palpable unease: "We all wake up thinking, 'Who's next?'"
Dayna Evans, a freelance writer in Brooklyn, was working at her apartment on Oct. 11 when she received a link to a Google spreadsheet curiously titled "Shitty Media Men."

"When I first got it, there were 12 or so names on it, and you could see people editing it," says Evans. "I still remember even then thinking how few men there were on it considering how many of them have power." She left her computer for a few hours, and when she returned, the number had ballooned to more than 50 (a version obtained by The Hollywood Reporter includes 72 names), covering an array of outlets, including The New Yorker, The New Republic, The New York Times, Harper's, Mother Jones, BuzzFeed and New York.
Whatever you think about Cernovich, if this is the game we're playing: that you can accuse someone anonymously of something that isn't bad and they lose their job...okay. That's the game we're playing. If that means every man from the Times, Vox, Rolling Stone, Washington Post, etc. is fired? So be it. This is what they wanted.
I was referring to the website "Those who will be named" (was that what it was called?) that was up briefly a few years ago, IIRC around the Shermer thing was happening. Like the list accusing the media types it had the accusers remaining anon and wasn't up for very long.
As for the game "we" are playing, I'm certainly not on board with this sort of witchhunt.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:20 pm
I was referring to the website "Those who will be named" (was that what it was called?) that was up briefly a few years ago, IIRC around the Shermer thing was happening. Like the list accusing the media types it had the accusers remaining anon and wasn't up for very long.
As for the game "we" are playing, I'm certainly not on board with this sort of witchhunt.
The website was called "More will be named" and it was the source of the anonymous accusation against Bill Nye which wmdkitty promoted as "confirmed". Eventually someone brilliantly trolled the website by "naming" fictional characters like Hari Seldon or Buzz Lightyear.

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Kirbmarc wrote: Intersectional Engineering, where academic rigor is for shitlords, science is colonialist and racist, and "other ways of knowing" are accepted :bjarte:

This is getting much worse than the Creationism fad.
I left the following comment on one of PZ's videos about creationism:
My evolution will be intersectional or it will be nothing: Charles Dworkin

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By the way here's a 2013 article by Stephanie Zvan on the subject and a tumblr account making fun of the "more names will be named" blog.

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Kirbmarc wrote: Intersectional Engineering, where academic rigor is for shitlords, science is colonialist and racist, and "other ways of knowing" are accepted :bjarte:
rigor “has a historical lineage of being about hardness, stiffness, and erectness"
Pardon my misogyny for not wanting to drive over any bridges she designs.

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“This is not about reinventing rigor for everyone, it is about doing away with the concept altogether so we can welcome other ways of knowing. Other ways of being. It is about criticality and reflexivity.”
Other ways of keeping airplanes in the sky.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
“This is not about reinventing rigor for everyone, it is about doing away with the concept altogether so we can welcome other ways of knowing. Other ways of being. It is about criticality and reflexivity.”
Other ways of keeping airplanes in the sky.
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Kirbmarc wrote: By the way here's a 2013 article by Stephanie Zvan on the subject and a tumblr account making fun of the "more names will be named" blog.
That's the one I was thinking of. I remember that article as well,and how it sparked speculation that Zvan or someone in her clique was behind the website.
The comments in the Zvantee's post are great too, especially that moron GAS's one about thawing our frozen peaches.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote: By the way here's a 2013 article by Stephanie Zvan on the subject and a tumblr account making fun of the "more names will be named" blog.
That's the one I was thinking of. I remember that article as well,and how it sparked speculation that Zvan or someone in her clique was behind the website.
The comments in the Zvantee's post are great too, especially that moron GAS's one about thawing our frozen peaches.
GAS was one of the stupidest people on the Atheism Plus forum, and that's saying a lot. He was too easy to troll. I convinced him that "fuck you" was a rape threat. :bjarte:

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Did i hear Dustin Hoffman in in the firing line? Is that old news?
Old news as of November (2nd accusation). He is primarily thought of as an actor, and is probably not thought of as being as powerful and important as he once was.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/n ... ment-claim

IMDB listing:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000163/?ref_=nv_sr_1

He is still working. But looks mostly like light stuff.

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