In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary

[TheMudbrooker]

Intersectional Engineering, where academic rigor is for shitlords, science is colonialist and racist, and "other ways of knowing" are accepted :bjarte:

rigor “has a historical lineage of being about hardness, stiffness, and erectness"

Pardon my misogyny for not wanting to drive over any bridges she designs.

There are other ways of knowing the maximum working load limit of pre-stressed concrete, shitlord! :naughty:

[Matt Cavanaugh]

rebar is phallic. Inserting it into concrete is rape.

[KiwiInOz]

snip

There are other ways of knowing the maximum working load limit of pre-stressed concrete, shitlord! :naughty:

My daughter is doing second year civil engineering in 2018. I'll see which approach she takes.

[Steersman]

Looks like "she" - I assume - is getting both barrels. But speaking of Patheos & the support for "polyfuckists" and transgenderism - weren't we?

I take no issue with the polyamourus unless they are busy trying to police my sexuality.

I certainly don't have anything against the polyamorous either - I've engaged or spoken with several escorts who had been or were so, and it was that which, in part, motivated their entry into the profession: if you enjoy something then why not try to make a living at it? You might check out A Safer Sex Trade which profiled several prostitutes & a madam in the Vancouver area; IMDb link which has at least one interesting review.

But my comment about the "polyfuckists" was partly as a lead-in to the discussion over at Patheos on transgenderism; not sure that many people really realize the lives that are being destroyed by pandering to the #TransLoonies, to the demented "belief" that one can change one's sex:

[Guest_d2e60302]

Old news as of November (2nd accusation). He is primarily thought of as an actor, and is probably not thought of as being as powerful and important as he once was.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-516416 ... d-her.html

[InfraRedBucket]

Did i hear Dustin Hoffman in in the firing line? Is that old news?

Old news as of November (2nd accusation). He is primarily thought of as an actor, and is probably not thought of as being as powerful and important as he once was.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/n ... ment-claim

IMDB listing:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000163/?ref_=nv_sr_1

He is still working. But looks mostly like light stuff.

-Soylent

Probably just misreading the signals.

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[Guest_d2e60302]

Old news as of November (2nd accusation). He is primarily thought of as an actor, and is probably not thought of as being as powerful and important as he once was.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-her.html

Ex-page three glamour model Samantha Fox says David Cassidy grabbed her breasts and put hand up her skirt in restaurant toilet
Samantha Fox claims US pop idol David Cassidy sexually assaulted her in 1985
She claims he forced himself on her when she was 19 in her autobiography
Fox said she responded by kneeing him in the crotch and dubbed him a 'creep'
She also says Cassidy had a visible erection during the video shoot to Romance

[jugheadnaut]

Intersectional Engineering, where academic rigor is for shitlords, science is colonialist and racist, and "other ways of knowing" are accepted :bjarte:

rigor “has a historical lineage of being about hardness, stiffness, and erectness"

Pardon my misogyny for not wanting to drive over any bridges she designs.

As far as I can tell from her biography, she isn't actually an engineer and doesn't teach engineering courses. Both her background and current position are at the School of Engineering Education. From it's web page has an explicitly identity politics based mission:

About Us.

The School of Engineering Education (ENE) envisions a more inclusive socially connected and scholarly engineering education. This implies that we radically rethink the boundaries of engineering and the purpose of engineering education.

Our mission to transform engineering education based on scholarship and research rests on three pillars: Re-imagining engineering and engineering education, creating field-shaping knowledge, and empowering agents of change.

I'm guessing that at Purdue's actual engineering school, which is well regarded, they're considered a complete joke and this won't go down well at all. Purdue's president is Mitch Daniels, former GOP governor of Indiana, who has little regard for SJW antics. Wouldn't be surprised if Purdue puts out a strongly worded statement denouncing her statement in the next couple of days.

[Really?]

Old news as of November (2nd accusation). He is primarily thought of as an actor, and is probably not thought of as being as powerful and important as he once was.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-her.html

Ex-page three glamour model Samantha Fox says David Cassidy grabbed her breasts and put hand up her skirt in restaurant toilet
Samantha Fox claims US pop idol David Cassidy sexually assaulted her in 1985
She claims he forced himself on her when she was 19 in her autobiography
Fox said she responded by kneeing him in the crotch and dubbed him a 'creep'
She also says Cassidy had a visible erection during the video shoot to Romance

Christ. The guy just fucking died.

[Old_ones]

Intersectional Engineering, where academic rigor is for shitlords, science is colonialist and racist, and "other ways of knowing" are accepted :bjarte:

This is getting much worse than the Creationism fad.

Well, if academic rigor is the thing causing all this evil privilege and racism, then I think I finally understand how profs in the race and gender studies departments see themselves fixing the problem.

:dance:

[Steersman]

twitter.com/Toni_Airaksinen/status/940346869095501831

Intersectional Engineering, where academic rigor is for shitlords, science is colonialist and racist, and "other ways of knowing" are accepted :bjarte:

rigor “has a historical lineage of being about hardness, stiffness, and erectness"

Pardon my misogyny for not wanting to drive over any bridges she designs.

As far as I can tell from her biography, she isn't actually an engineer and doesn't teach engineering courses. Both her background and current position are at the School of Engineering Education. From it's web page has an explicitly identity politics based mission ...

From Purdue's "Our People" on Riley:

Riley earned a B.S.E. in chemical engineering from Princeton University and a Ph.D. from Carnegie Mellon University in Engineering and Public Policy. She is a fellow of the American Society for Engineering Education.

Who knows what that Ph.D. entailed - maybe advanced basket weaving? But the B.S.E. should presuppose a bit of actual academic rigor.

Link to her offending article, though only the abstract is available.

I'm guessing that at Purdue's actual engineering school, which is well regarded, they're considered a complete joke and this won't go down well at all. Purdue's president is Mitch Daniels, former GOP governor of Indiana, who has little regard for SJW antics. Wouldn't be surprised if Purdue puts out a strongly worded statement denouncing her statement in the next couple of days.

Hope they rake her over the coals. Something to add to the flames:

[jugheadnaut]

As far as I can tell from her biography, she isn't actually an engineer and doesn't teach engineering courses. Both her background and current position are at the School of Engineering Education. From it's web page has an explicitly identity politics based mission ...

From Purdue's "Our People" on Riley:

Riley earned a B.S.E. in chemical engineering from Princeton University and a Ph.D. from Carnegie Mellon University in Engineering and Public Policy. She is a fellow of the American Society for Engineering Education.

Who knows what that Ph.D. entailed - maybe advanced basket weaving? But the B.S.E. should presuppose a bit of actual academic rigor.

She never became a professional engineer, though, and her post-graduate affiliations are in engineering education, not engineering itself. Looks like she got her undergraduate engineering degree and decided her future lay in being an SJW academic talking about engineering rather than doing anything directly engineering related

[Keating]

[katamari Damassi]

“This is not about reinventing rigor for everyone, it is about doing away with the concept altogether so we can welcome other ways of knowing. Other ways of being. It is about criticality and reflexivity.”

Other ways of keeping airplanes in the sky.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/fac ... urMind.jpg

It really works, but you need a running start off of a tall building.

[rayshul]

Man it's real easy to be a "racist" these days. Problematic posts bullshit.


Anyway.

I think the problem with this generation is they aren't growing up. They aren't settling down and marrying and having kids, and if they are they're doing it out of wedlock and they divorce like motherfuckers and there are all these stunted people - I mean, look at the skepchicks and friends. I'm starting to think that kids are a big fucking decider in whether or not people grow up normal or go down the crazy chain. I guess it's hard to look at your baby boy and be like CIS HET WHITE MALE FUCK YOU. Not that some pieces of shit don't try.

[Steersman]

As far as I can tell from her biography, she isn't actually an engineer and doesn't teach engineering courses. Both her background and current position are at the School of Engineering Education. From it's web page has an explicitly identity politics based mission ...

From Purdue's "Our People" on Riley:

Riley earned a B.S.E. in chemical engineering from Princeton University and a Ph.D. from Carnegie Mellon University in Engineering and Public Policy. She is a fellow of the American Society for Engineering Education.

Who knows what that Ph.D. entailed - maybe advanced basket weaving? But the B.S.E. should presuppose a bit of actual academic rigor.

She never became a professional engineer, though, and her post-graduate affiliations are in engineering education, not engineering itself. Looks like she got her undergraduate engineering degree and decided her future lay in being an SJW academic talking about engineering rather than doing anything directly engineering related

Ah, right you are. But having written, supposedly or apparently, "Engineering Thermodynamics and 21st Century Energy Problems", one would have thought she would have been more or less immune to the "mind virus" of postmodernist "feminism".

In any case, at least at the beginning of the article I was at least a bit sympathetic to her position in that maybe the rigor she had in mind wasn't specifically related to engineering itself. After all, there's something to be said for flexibility, and not being dogmatic and hidebound. But when she blathers on about "rigor accomplish[ing] dirty deeds [in] ... demonstrating white male heterosexual privilege", it was rather clear she had OD'd on "feminist" KoolAid - getting an award from the "National Organization of Gay and Lesbian Scientists and Technical Professionals" being the coup de grâce.

[Steersman]

Man it's real easy to be a "racist" these days. Problematic posts bullshit.


Anyway.

I think the problem with this generation is they aren't growing up. They aren't settling down and marrying and having kids, and if they are they're doing it out of wedlock and they divorce like motherfuckers and there are all these stunted people - I mean, look at the skepchicks and friends. I'm starting to think that kids are a big fucking decider in whether or not people grow up normal or go down the crazy chain.

Probably some justification for that argument, although it looks more like a case of not actually taking responsibility - which I expect raising kids obliges one to do - in spades.

I guess it's hard to look at your baby boy and be like CIS HET WHITE MALE FUCK YOU. Not that some pieces of shit don't try.

??? - "does not compute". If "this generation" isn't having kinds then how can they "look at [their] baby boy" and say that? I can see them looking at other people's kids and thinking that and then deciding they want no part of parenthood.

Still, an interesting question of ensuring enough kids come along to keep social processes ticking over - including paying for my pension ... - without there being so many that they outstrip the ability of the ecosystem - social & physical - to sustain them. A delicate balance, I think.

[AndrewV69]

Louise Mensch Is More Dangerous than Facebook

If you haven’t noticed yet, I SOUND COMPLETELY INSANE. When you talk about insane things, you sound insane. You can’t win. This is part of the problem.

That is a quote from the article. Not a sub heading. Just read the article shitlords. You know you want to.

[rayshul]

Steers, you've got to spend some time learning colloquialisms and patterns of speech. I feel you're attempting to speak an entirely different fucking language.

[MarcusAu]

Man it's real easy to be a "racist" these days. Problematic posts bullshit.


Anyway.

I think the problem with this generation is they aren't growing up. They aren't settling down and marrying and having kids, and if they are they're doing it out of wedlock and they divorce like motherfuckers and there are all these stunted people - I mean, look at the skepchicks and friends. I'm starting to think that kids are a big fucking decider in whether or not people grow up normal or go down the crazy chain. I guess it's hard to look at your baby boy and be like CIS HET WHITE MALE FUCK YOU. Not that some pieces of shit don't try.

Perhaps it's the democratisation of affluence that's an issue.

Now everyone can go through life as if they were a character written by F Scott Fitzgerald.

[rayshul]

I think the problem with this generation is they aren't growing up. They aren't settling down and marrying and having kids, and if they are they're doing it out of wedlock and they divorce like motherfuckers and there are all these stunted people - I mean, look at the skepchicks and friends. I'm starting to think that kids are a big fucking decider in whether or not people grow up normal or go down the crazy chain. I guess it's hard to look at your baby boy and be like CIS HET WHITE MALE FUCK YOU. Not that some pieces of shit don't try.

Perhaps it's the democratisation of affluence that's an issue.

Now everyone can go through life as if they were a character written by F Scott Fitzgerald.

I do know poor people too who went full SJW. Most of them did go that way faster. Probably part of the reason I redpilled in the early 2000s when these poor ass bitches were all, you're so oppressed. I'm like bitch what I could buy you

[Steersman]

Steers, you've got to spend some time learning colloquialisms and patterns of speech. I feel you're attempting to speak an entirely different fucking language.

You mean like the set of Australian "colloquialisms" that someone regaled us with here recently? ;-) Don't think I've enough time left to parse them let alone understand them.

But kind of looked like you changed horses, or points of view, in midstream, and I wasn't sure what you were getting at - so I asked. ...

[Steersman]

Louise Mensch Is More Dangerous than Facebook

If you haven’t noticed yet, I SOUND COMPLETELY INSANE. When you talk about insane things, you sound insane. You can’t win. This is part of the problem.

That is a quote from the article. Not a sub heading. Just read the article shitlords. You know you want to.

Looks like quite an interesting article, though haven't read it all yet - natch. But this kind of leaps out at me:

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be alarmed. Facebook was doing the same thing it does to us with ads every day: Exercising capitalism to an irresponsible degree. If anything, that is what should scare you: It was business as usual.

Indeed - one feels some sympathy for the censorship of countries like China and Russia: some justification for apprehension about the consequences of peddling egregious falsehoods in pursuit of profit or of hidden agendas.

Apropos of which, the Pew Forum had an interesting survey on the topic:

The Future of Truth and Misinformation Online

Experts are evenly split on whether the coming decade will see a reduction in false and misleading narratives online. Those forecasting improvement place their hopes in technological fixes and in societal solutions. Others think the dark side of human nature is aided more than stifled by technology. ....

[rayshul]

Here's a primer you might find helpful.

https://www.wikihow.com/Detect-Sarcasm-in-Writing

[Brive1987]

Man it's real easy to be a "racist" these days. Problematic posts bullshit.


Anyway.

I think the problem with this generation is they aren't growing up. They aren't settling down and marrying and having kids, and if they are they're doing it out of wedlock and they divorce like motherfuckers and there are all these stunted people - I mean, look at the skepchicks and friends. I'm starting to think that kids are a big fucking decider in whether or not people grow up normal or go down the crazy chain. I guess it's hard to look at your baby boy and be like CIS HET WHITE MALE FUCK YOU. Not that some pieces of shit don't try.

Jesus Christ.

Next you will be arguing for the trad-life.



And you know where that pre-modern thinking leads?

Oh. I know you do.

NAZIS

[shoutinghorse]

"All I want for Christmas is to hate more men" :hand:

[Steersman]

Here's a primer you might find helpful.

https://www.wikihow.com/Detect-Sarcasm-in-Writing

Well, that's certainly interesting, and might be worth delving into in more detail when I have the time ...

However, I think you're still missing my point. You said:

I guess it's hard to look at your baby boy and be like CIS HET WHITE MALE FUCK YOU. Not that some pieces of shit don't try.

Which I assume you think is sarcastic. But all it looks like to me is that you've changed gears, changed horses in midstream. Someone can't very well be looking at their "baby boy" if they never had a kid in the first place: looks like you're referring to two different scenarios, a progression of events that are simply impossible.

Maybe you intended the reader to make a different inference, but a "plain reading" of that statement, particularly in the context of the previous ones, doesn't make any sense at all, to me in any case. And they sure don't look like they match any of the examples of sarcasm in the article.

Amazing the extent to which so much of the online animosity is a result of misreading other people's intent or the way they phrase things or the parsing rules in play - doubt any of us are really mind-readers, and maybe kind of rude to expect that of others. Absent a readily available "Primer" - a Rosetta Stone, or even a willingness to elaborate on precisely what is meant or intended, that is maybe not surprising.

[Keating]

I see the Steersman bot didn’t get upgraded along with the board. Pity.

[Ape+lust]

"All I want for Christmas is to hate more men" :hand:

Here's the rest of it. She goes deep with the pretentious deepities.

https://imgur.com/tT9BfnO.png

She's just parroting what other socjus princesses are saying. If you search for "cat person", you'll get a lot of women exasperated with what they think men would say, a handful of "good men" allies with tepid/scared tweets, and a few trolls. Rebecca barely got in on time with her me-too regurgitation.

[Brive1987]

"All I want for Christmas is to hate more men" :hand:

Here's the rest of it. She goes deep with the pretentious deepities.

https://imgur.com/tT9BfnO.png

She's just parroting what other socjus princesses are saying. If you search for "cat person", you'll get a lot of women exasperated with what they think men would say, a handful of "good men" allies with tepid/scared tweets, and a few trolls. Rebecca barely got in on time with her me-too regurgitation.

I don't understand what the fuck she is rabbiting on about.

I do know her last Patreon only Vlog was last April but she still has them listed as a $3 plus WEEKLY reward.

Which makes her a cunt.

[Ape+lust]

I don't understand what the fuck she is rabbiting on about.

I do know her last Patreon only Vlog was last April but she still has them listed as a $3 plus WEEKLY reward.

Which makes her a cunt.

She doesn't understand, either. She's just cribbed and compiled something so she can showboat before the moment passes. And as usual, there are other things she should be doing instead, like finding a way off Patreon before her income craters.

[Steersman]

I see the Steersman bot didn’t get upgraded along with the board. Pity.

It's not a bug, it's a feature ...

But you might consider the possibility that you're working off the same song-sheet, the same "conventional wisdom" that rayshul is apparently using - being from the same neck of the woods, and all. And that not all of the "colonies" speak the same lingo ...

[Steersman]

"All I want for Christmas is to hate more men" :hand:

twitter.com/rebeccawatson/status/940393159183306752

Here's the rest of it. She goes deep with the pretentious deepities.

[.img]https://imgur.com/tT9BfnO.png[/img]

She's just parroting what other socjus princesses are saying. If you search for "cat person", you'll get a lot of women exasperated with what they think men would say, a handful of "good men" allies with tepid/scared tweets, and a few trolls. Rebecca barely got in on time with her me-too regurgitation.

Just out of curiosity, any indication just what type of "inner life" Watson is talking about? There being some difference between, say, one based on "bodice rippers" and another on "pioneering research on radioactivity" ...

[gurugeorge]

Amusing video on one of the Evergreen loons:-

[MarcusAu]

You are all cynics...

If Becky feels the need to publish stories telling of her 'inner life' or even to do more stand up - she should receive as much encouragement as possible.

[shoutinghorse]

I don't understand what the fuck she is rabbiting on about.

I do know her last Patreon only Vlog was last April but she still has them listed as a $3 plus WEEKLY reward.

Which makes her a cunt.

She doesn't understand, either. She's just cribbed and compiled something so she can showboat before the moment passes. And as usual, there are other things she should be doing instead, like finding a way off Patreon before her income craters.

She was talking of going over to something called 'Drip' the other day, either that or she was talking about the drip drip drip effect her relationship with the apple cuckfriend is having on his bank account.

[shoutinghorse]

Thing is the poor chap can't stand up for himself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42322406

[Hunt]

Thing is the poor chap can't stand up for himself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42322406

He tried defending himself in court, but he didn't have a leg to stand on. He hired a lawyer; his family footed the bill, but he was booted into prison anyway.

[feathers]

As far as I can tell from her biography, she isn't actually an engineer and doesn't teach engineering courses. Both her background and current position are at the School of Engineering Education.

It does mention a B.S.E. [whatever that is] in Chemical Engineering from Princeton Univ.

We could assign her a degree in Comical Engineering.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

You are all cynics...

If Becky feels the need to publish stories telling of her 'inner life' or even to do more stand up - she should receive as much encouragement as possible.

I have a feeling the story of her 'inner life' involves spirochetes.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

She was talking of going over to something called 'Drip' the other day, either that or she was talking about the drip drip drip effect her relationship with the apple cuckfriend is having on his bank account.

That's not the worst drip he could be suffered because of her....

[Lsuoma]

Here's a primer you might find helpful.

https://www.wikihow.com/Detect-Sarcasm-in-Writing

Why, Rayshul, why? You've been here since Pit Digging Day +3. You KNOW that the Steersbot has a malfunctioning language module...

[Lsuoma]

Thing is the poor chap can't stand up for himself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42322406

He tried defending himself in court, but he didn't have a leg to stand on. He hired a lawyer; his family footed the bill, but he was booted into prison anyway.

Maybe someone will spring him soon?

[jet_lagg]

Sorry for using you all as my support group, but a friend just shared this on FB and I have to vent. This is that one friend (I'm assuming everyone has one) who goes on incessantly about the evils of corporal punishment, claims to be an "expert" in parenting technique with all the latest science on their side, and insists spanking will cause irreparable psychological damage. It would be irritating enough if their own little tyke weren't so clearly maladjusted.

Experienced one of the most heartbreaking moments, so far, since becoming a parent.
Simon came downstairs this morning while I was finishing up wrapping up some more of his presents. He didn't really seem to pay any mind.
As he sat in front of me with his yogurt, while I was piling them up to place under the tree, he asked, "Are those presents for ME?", all excitedly.
I said, "Why, yes they are."
He then asked, "Can I open them?"
I said, "Yes, but on Christmas morning." all super nice and excitedly.
...his face dropped.
...he slowly turned his head away from me.
...he slowly turned his body away from me.
...his little eyes started to well up with tears.
..oh so silently.
Bradley and I just sat there looking back and forth at him and each other, not sure what to do.
..and then, I asked him if he was ok.
We all know what comes next, as it happens to every broken-hearted human being.

Yes, every human being becomes broken-hearted and has a full on nervous breakdown when they learn they'll have to wait a couple weeks before they get their free shit.

The crying began.
Not the kind of crying you hear from a spoiled child that doesn't get their way.
The kind of crying, nay, sobbing from a child that has just been crushed of all his hopes and dreams.
He sat there silently sobbing with one hand wiping his tears and one hand holding his little vanilla yogurt cup.
..and then, he looked up at Bradley and asked him to hold his yogurt.
Now that he had both hands to wipe his eyes and cover his face, he just really let loose.
He was truly heart broken.
He could barely breathe he was sobbing so hard.
Both Bradley and I were on the verge of crying with tears welled up in our eyes.
We didn't know what to do.
So, we panicked and hurriedly started offering for him to go under the tree and pick any present he wanted, and open it.

Positive reenforcement of bad behavior. I take it back. She really is scientifically literate. She just hates her kid for some reason and is systematically stripping him of any ability to handle reality.

After several seconds of trying to obtain composure, he agreed.
He went to the tree...with that sad hiccupy breathing, and picked up the tiniest box that was under there.
He picked out a present that he knew was Bradley's, but he didn't care. That's what he wanted to open.
It was just a little bottle of cologne. Candies. The kind that Bradley used to wear when he and I were friends and first started dating. (ah, nostalgia)
He was so excited about it.
He was so excited to open it up for his Daddy.

That's exactly what happened. Your child has so much empathy for those around him that he *couldn't bear* someone having to wait another minute to receive their present. In no way did he throw a hissy fit because he couldn't get his own present right away and was only placated after taking someone elses present for himself.

He wanted to open it and smell it, so we of course obliged.
Bradley even offered to put a little on him.
He was so happy, man.
He then asked Bradley for his yogurt back, is now in perfectly good spirits and smelling so very handsome, while sitting in front of the turtle tank, talking to him. <3
I'm glad he's doing well.

Yeah. He's fantastic. I'm sure when the pendulum swings back on this current wave of campus histrionics he'll be completely ready for it.

My heart is still sitting on my toes.

I swear if I ever have kids they're going to get beaten constantly. I'll have mock trials where they'll be formally sentenced. Somber drumming as they march up to the paddling line. I'll give them a blindfold and a cigarette. I'll be on FB every day with that shit.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42322406

Thing is the poor chap can't stand up for himself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42322406

He tried defending himself in court, but he didn't have a leg to stand on. He hired a lawyer; his family footed the bill, but he was booted into prison anyway.

Maybe someone will spring him soon?

I wouldn't jump to any conclusions on that.

[MarcusAu]

No worries - I'm sure he will soon bounce back.

[jet_lagg]

By the way here's a 2013 article by Stephanie Zvan on the subject and a tumblr account making fun of the "more names will be named" blog.

That's the one I was thinking of. I remember that article as well,and how it sparked speculation that Zvan or someone in her clique was behind the website.
The comments in the Zvantee's post are great too, especially that moron GAS's one about thawing our frozen peaches.

GAS was one of the stupidest people on the Atheism Plus forum, and that's saying a lot. He was too easy to troll. I convinced him that "fuck you" was a rape threat. :bjarte:

Not that Great American Satan was the sharpest bulb in the toolshed, but I always took that more as an insane person biting the bullet and taking their insane theory all the way to its natural terminus. Compare with effective altruists, who when confronted with the possibility of electrons suffering will write a paper on how we need to destroy physics. People obsessed with doing the ultimate good are basically James Bond villains in the making.

[BoxNDox]

Intersectional Engineering, where academic rigor is for shitlords, science is colonialist and racist, and "other ways of knowing" are accepted :bjarte:

This is getting much worse than the Creationism fad.

The article is titled "Rigor/Us: Building Boundaries and Disciplining Diversity with Standards of Merit". I don't seem to be able to snag a free
copy, which I suppose is just as well.

One of her other papers is "Power/Knowledge: Using Foucault to promote critical understandings of content and pedagogy in engineering thermodynamics." I'm definitely not reading that one.

We used to joke nervously about one student in our class who was, shall we say, less than distinguished academically, who then went on to work at Boeing on the 757/767 wing design.

I yearn for the good old days where competence was a thing.

[BoxNDox]

As far as I can tell from her biography, she isn't actually an engineer and doesn't teach engineering courses. Both her background and current position are at the School of Engineering Education.

It does mention a B.S.E. [whatever that is] in Chemical Engineering from Princeton Univ.

We could assign her a degree in Comical Engineering.

Her Linkedin profile:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-riley-63108326/

says she taught basic engineering courses at Smith.

She was also a program director at the NSF.

[John D]

I swear if I ever have kids they're going to get beaten constantly. I'll have mock trials where they'll be formally sentenced. Somber drumming as they march up to the paddling line. I'll give them a blindfold and a cigarette. I'll be on FB every day with that shit.

Haha.... this had me laughing the whole time. There are many parents who are really unskilled. Many of them are pretty smart... and yeah... they always have lots of advice for everyone else. My niece is a bit like this. We visited her for a few days and she has a new baby. Haha. My wife and I stayed pretty calm while she told us all about how to raise a kid.

It's funny. My wife is super good with kids... especially babies. We all call her the baby whisperer. It is a marvel. She can grab any baby she has never met and make it happy. But, when she was young she had her Childhood Development degree so she tried to tell all the parents in our daycare how to parent. Some of the advice was good... but some... well... not so much. Having a child that has chronic vivid nightmares can make a person humble. Having a child with OCD and anxiety disorder can make a person humble.

Your friend may end up with a decent kid anyway. Kids are resilient and don't necessarily end up spoiled as adults.

Step 1) Do not wrap your kids Xmas presents right in front of them. WTF! Who does this?
Step 2) If you make a rule make sure you follow it.
Step 3) Remember - kids are narcissists.... at least till the age of 4. They are fucking with you!!!!!!

My OCD/anxiety kid had a temper tantrum about twice a day. Seriously.... she was reallllllly hard to parent. We had to be incredibly patient, but we still enforced rules. By comparison, my other kid had two temper tantrums IN HER WHOLE LIFE. Haha. Siblings can be very different.

Haha... I remember when the non-OCD kid had a temper tantrum in the kitchen during a party. I just looked at her and said "What are doing?" She knew I was onto her so she just stopped. My mom thought that was so funny she still talks about it. The OCD kid on the other hand, had real psych/physical issues with calming herself.... man... that was tricky. We didn't give in to her rage, but we tried to comfort her at the same time. "sorry you are upset.... do you need a hug?" "do you think you want to be alone so you can calm down?" "if you can't calm down I want you to go to you room until you can." Lots of times she would walk away screaming her head off... and then 5 minutes later return to us after she stopped crying.

But.... Peterson is right on this one.... having kids is so transformative that it should not be missed.

[Lsuoma]

Sorry for using you all as my support group, but a friend just shared this on FB and I have to vent. This is that one friend (I'm assuming everyone has one) who goes on incessantly about the evils of corporal punishment, claims to be an "expert" in parenting technique with all the latest science on their side, and insists spanking will cause irreparable psychological damage. It would be irritating enough if their own little tyke weren't so clearly maladjusted.

Experienced one of the most heartbreaking moments, so far, since becoming a parent.
Simon came downstairs this morning while I was finishing up wrapping up some more of his presents. He didn't really seem to pay any mind.
As he sat in front of me with his yogurt, while I was piling them up to place under the tree, he asked, "Are those presents for ME?", all excitedly.
I said, "Why, yes they are."
He then asked, "Can I open them?"
I said, "Yes, but on Christmas morning." all super nice and excitedly.
...his face dropped.
...he slowly turned his head away from me.
...he slowly turned his body away from me.
...his little eyes started to well up with tears.
..oh so silently.
Bradley and I just sat there looking back and forth at him and each other, not sure what to do.
..and then, I asked him if he was ok.
We all know what comes next, as it happens to every broken-hearted human being.

Yes, every human being becomes broken-hearted and has a full on nervous breakdown when they learn they'll have to wait a couple weeks before they get their free shit.

The crying began.
Not the kind of crying you hear from a spoiled child that doesn't get their way.
The kind of crying, nay, sobbing from a child that has just been crushed of all his hopes and dreams.
He sat there silently sobbing with one hand wiping his tears and one hand holding his little vanilla yogurt cup.
..and then, he looked up at Bradley and asked him to hold his yogurt.
Now that he had both hands to wipe his eyes and cover his face, he just really let loose.
He was truly heart broken.
He could barely breathe he was sobbing so hard.
Both Bradley and I were on the verge of crying with tears welled up in our eyes.
We didn't know what to do.
So, we panicked and hurriedly started offering for him to go under the tree and pick any present he wanted, and open it.

Positive reenforcement of bad behavior. I take it back. She really is scientifically literate. She just hates her kid for some reason and is systematically stripping him of any ability to handle reality.

After several seconds of trying to obtain composure, he agreed.
He went to the tree...with that sad hiccupy breathing, and picked up the tiniest box that was under there.
He picked out a present that he knew was Bradley's, but he didn't care. That's what he wanted to open.
It was just a little bottle of cologne. Candies. The kind that Bradley used to wear when he and I were friends and first started dating. (ah, nostalgia)
He was so excited about it.
He was so excited to open it up for his Daddy.

That's exactly what happened. Your child has so much empathy for those around him that he *couldn't bear* someone having to wait another minute to receive their present. In no way did he throw a hissy fit because he couldn't get his own present right away and was only placated after taking someone elses present for himself.

He wanted to open it and smell it, so we of course obliged.
Bradley even offered to put a little on him.
He was so happy, man.
He then asked Bradley for his yogurt back, is now in perfectly good spirits and smelling so very handsome, while sitting in front of the turtle tank, talking to him. <3
I'm glad he's doing well.

Yeah. He's fantastic. I'm sure when the pendulum swings back on this current wave of campus histrionics he'll be completely ready for it.

My heart is still sitting on my toes.

I swear if I ever have kids they're going to get beaten constantly. I'll have mock trials where they'll be formally sentenced. Somber drumming as they march up to the paddling line. I'll give them a blindfold and a cigarette. I'll be on FB every day with that shit.

Fucking little shit rules his parents. Cunt knows how to manipulate them. George Orwell pointed out (in The Road to Wigan Pier) that in middle-class families it's sometimes the wife, but usually the baby or child that is in charge. This is a classic case.

[feathers]

Her Linkedin profile:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-riley-63108326/

says she taught basic engineering courses at Smith.

She was also a program director at the NSF.

I'd say she's NSFW.

[InfraRedBucket]

More background on the Laurier case:

http://www.macleans.ca/lindsay-shepherd ... d-laurier/

[InfraRedBucket]

[Tigzy]

Compare with effective altruists, who when confronted with the possibility of electrons suffering will write a paper on how we need to destroy physics. People obsessed with doing the ultimate good are basically James Bond villains in the making.

Well that's just fucking mental.

Dude's apparently for real, too. What a fucking spackoid tart.

[Tigzy]

Steers, you've got to spend some time learning colloquialisms and patterns of speech. I feel you're attempting to speak an entirely different fucking language.

Steersman is to conversation what Tommy Wiseau is to acting, in that he appears to have never actually done it for real, yet considers himself competent on the basis of reading a few wikipedia articles about the subject.

[DrokkIt]

The crying began.
Not the kind of crying you hear from a spoiled child that doesn't get their way.

I think I may have discovered the underlying misconception this person is labouring under.

[shoutinghorse]

Fucking little shit rules his parents. Cunt knows how to manipulate them. George Orwell pointed out (in The Road to Wigan Pier) that in middle-class families it's sometimes the wife, but usually the baby or child that is in charge. This is a classic case.

Probably never happened. .. If I'd pulled a stunt like that I would have spent the night in the coal shed and been given something to cry about. :confusion-seeingstars:

[Lsuoma]

Ha - Trump indirectly calls Gillibrand a whore:

Lightweight Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a total flunky for Chuck Schumer and someone who would come to my office “begging” for campaign contributions not so long ago (and would do anything for them), is now in the ring fighting against Trump. Very disloyal to Bill & Crooked-USED!

[Kirbmarc]

By the way here's a 2013 article by Stephanie Zvan on the subject and a tumblr account making fun of the "more names will be named" blog.

That's the one I was thinking of. I remember that article as well,and how it sparked speculation that Zvan or someone in her clique was behind the website.
The comments in the Zvantee's post are great too, especially that moron GAS's one about thawing our frozen peaches.

GAS was one of the stupidest people on the Atheism Plus forum, and that's saying a lot. He was too easy to troll. I convinced him that "fuck you" was a rape threat. :bjarte:

Not that Great American Satan was the sharpest bulb in the toolshed, but I always took that more as an insane person biting the bullet and taking their insane theory all the way to its natural terminus. Compare with effective altruists, who when confronted with the possibility of electrons suffering will write a paper on how we need to destroy physics. People obsessed with doing the ultimate good are basically James Bond villains in the making.

Well if your only goal is to reduce suffering to zero destroying the entire universe should do the trick.