In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary

#481

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#482

Laisser aller, Phil. Just Laisser aller.

#483

Brive1987 wrote:Sorry Kirb - but that tweet demands an equal and opposite reaction.

If he goes public he invites scrutiny. Simple as that. The guy is a laughing stock who seeks to be dangerous. His tweets are grist to the mill.

Next Indy and the cuck will be verboten. :bjarte:

Months to get a kiss. :lol: :lol: :x

I'm not trying to police anyone's behavior, only asking why we should focus on this stuff. And yes, it includes pretty much all the Watson stuff with the dog and her boyfriend. Quite frankly, what's the point?

I understand pointing out the hypocrisy of PZ pontificating on other people's sex lives as if he were some kind of absolute moral authority on what's sexually appropriate (when he carries on promoting his tentacle porn fetish), but there's a line between laughing at a self-righteous hypocrite and obsessing about the personal and private lives of complete strangers, and I think that some comments here have crossed it.

Especially since PZ isn't a graphomaniac over-sharer like Carrier. We don't know the details of PZ' sex or family life, only some hints, and quite frankly I don't think we need to know or care or speculate more about that.

Yes, he's a lol-cow, and his moral standards are laughably inconsistent, but there's no need to get personal. It's not productive, it's not very clever, it's not needed.

Rant over. Sorry for the inconvenience. You can all ignore me now :bjarte:

#484

Kirbmarc wrote:...Especially since PZ isn't a graphomaniac over-sharer like Carrier. We don't know the details of PZ' sex or family life, only some hints...

http://imgur.com/xGWClNS.jpg

#485

Kirb and the Pit :naughty:

http://i.imgur.com/leQK0E2.jpg

#486

We don't know the details of PZ' sex...life

Thank Dog for that!

I still think that collaterals (family, friends, kids...) are a no-go zone. If some here wish to indulge in the mocking, I will only say I separate myself from such.

Still, there are some funny joke potentials.

What to do, what to do...

#487

Ape+lust wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:...Especially since PZ isn't a graphomaniac over-sharer like Carrier. We don't know the details of PZ' sex or family life, only some hints...
http://imgur.com/xGWClNS.jpg

Okay, I need to go to my safe space now...

#488

Kirbmarc wrote:Found in the comment of a feminist article:

We recognize the masculine traits in most other mammals and neuter them to stop their overly aggressive sexual behavior and violence. Yet with humans we refuse to see it and treat testicles as sacrosanct. We need to start neutering men who can't control themselves and hurt society, removing those who's testosterone is out of control from the gene pool and leaving the more well adjusted men to be the fathers of the next generation.

But I thought testosterone has nothing to do with that aggressive male behaviour? Can these people finally make up their mind about nature and nurture?

#489

shoutinghorse wrote:Chardonnay (girl) hasn't transferred over the pond then? .. As for popular boys names, just you wait :?

http://i.imgur.com/e1vIOVi.png

This can only be countered by breeding more Adolphs.

#490

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I just watched Frozen for the first time. How is that piece of shit getting so much praise?

Wait til you've watched it for the 201st time :shock:

#491

shoutinghorse wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I just watched Frozen for the first time. How is that piece of shit getting so much praise?
Wait til you've watched it for the 201st time :shock:

Funny, that's what most parents on FB tell me. Luckily, I don't have kids, so this crap is going straight to the bin.

#492

feathers wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote:Chardonnay (girl) hasn't transferred over the pond then? .. As for popular boys names, just you wait :?

http://i.imgur.com/e1vIOVi.png
This can only be countered by breeding more Adolphs.

Well, Evalion is pregnant so that's at least one more:

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#493

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I just watched Frozen for the first time. How is that piece of shit getting so much praise?
Wait til you've watched it for the 201st time :shock:
Funny, that's what most parents on FB tell me. Luckily, I don't have kids, so this crap is going straight to the bin.

It's just a movie. Let it go.

#494

There's a seagull looking at its reflection in a mirrored door next to my office.

It's been there about an hour.

I've no reason to share this information.

Just sayin'

#495

MarcusAu wrote:Laisser aller, Phil. Just Laisser aller.

:nin:

In French.

#496

Shatterface wrote:There's a seagull looking at its reflection in a mirrored door next to my office.

It's been there about an hour.

I've no reason to share this information.

Just sayin'

It's a warning for the rest of us:

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#497

Shatterface wrote:There's a seagull looking at its reflection in a mirrored door next to my office.

It's been there about an hour.

I've no reason to share this information.

Just sayin'

he's casing the joint.

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#498

Shatterface wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:Laisser aller, Phil. Just Laisser aller.
:nin:

In French.

I had to use google translate for that - so if you were gazumped it was via a shit-ninja.

My French is petty-poo.

:hankey:

(nb glad to see that gazumped makes it through the spell checker)

#499

But but but ...

Can we still mock daughter's green sludge dinners? Or Mary's snow shovling while PZ plays? Or their silent dinners at restaurants? What about the irony of soldier-son? Trophy wife and vibrators?

Why can PZ introduce his personal life at will in often a politicised manner with counter strokes sending the pit to the fainting couch?

I call bullshit on this selective "oh my"

And with that I go to bed.

#500

Brive1987 wrote:But but but ...

Can we still mock daughter's green sludge dinners? Or Mary's snow shovling while PZ plays? Or their silent dinners at restaurants? What about the irony of soldier-son? Trophy wife and vibrators?

Why can PZ introduce his personal life at will in often a politicised manner with counter strokes sending the pit to the fainting couch?

I call bullshit on this selective "oh my"

And with that I go to bed.

You will have to use your own judgement.

Commentary on such matters should be proscribed (if necessary) by your own sense of decorum and good taste.

#501

Service Dog has snuck back in.

People have been asking after you SD - any updates...?

#502

Suet Cardigan wrote:
feathers wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote:Chardonnay (girl) hasn't transferred over the pond then? .. As for popular boys names, just you wait :?

http://i.imgur.com/e1vIOVi.png
This can only be countered by breeding more Adolphs.
Well, Evalion is pregnant so that's at least one more:

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Can y'all imagine how big Laci Green's boobs will become after Chris Raygun gets her pregnant ???

#503

feathers wrote:
Shatterface wrote:Determinism breaks down at the subatomic level. If the human brain is a physical object this indeterminisn plays a role. The only way indeterminism would not play a role is if the 'mind' was not governed by physical processes.
But even if we are deterministic at brain-level, then our decision to fry a criminal on the chair is just as determined as the criminal's decision to kill someone.

Yes, but the decision is influenced by inputs, amongst which would be arguments against frying people and pressure from the electorate.

Are we going by the strict definitions of deterministic and non-deterministic taken from automaton theory, or the more simplified meanings which hinge on the existence of a ghost in the machine?

#504

MarcusAu wrote:I had to use google translate for that - so if you were gazumped it was via a shit-ninja.

My French is petty-poo.

:hankey:

(nb glad to see that gazumped makes it through the spell checker)

I wanted to be clever and write 'ninja' in French but the French for 'ninja' is just 'ninja'.

Bloody French, stealing our English words for stuff.

#505

MarcusAu wrote:Laisser aller, Phil. Just Laisser aller.

It's a Disney movie, so I believe that it's "Lasseter aller" (but I suck at French).

#506

Kirbmarc wrote:. You can all ignore me now :bjarte:

No we can't.

#507

Well there's one piece of good news for today

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#508

You learn something new everyday: Richard Feynman was a key expert on the Challenger accident committee. I didn't know that, and I'm as space-geek as they come.

#509

On a lighter note, since two weeks ago Emirates Airline has a daily flight from Dubai and back with a A380. I get to see the beast either taking off or landing, from my front window. Damn, that thing is impressive!

#510

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#511

Brive1987 wrote:

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Hmmm... Attractive pre op trans and video opportunities.
There might be places on the interweb that provide "ideas" for that.

So I am told....

-

#512

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:On a lighter note, since two weeks ago Emirates Airline has a daily flight from Dubai and back with a A380. I get to see the beast either taking off or landing, from my front window. Damn, that thing is impressive!

You may even get to see it exploding, then.

#513

Kirbmarc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Sorry Kirb - but that tweet demands an equal and opposite reaction.

If he goes public he invites scrutiny. Simple as that. The guy is a laughing stock who seeks to be dangerous. His tweets are grist to the mill.

Next Indy and the cuck will be verboten. :bjarte:

Months to get a kiss. :lol: :lol: :x
I'm not trying to police anyone's behavior, only asking why we should focus on this stuff. And yes, it includes pretty much all the Watson stuff with the dog and her boyfriend. Quite frankly, what's the point?

I understand pointing out the hypocrisy of PZ pontificating on other people's sex lives as if he were some kind of absolute moral authority on what's sexually appropriate (when he carries on promoting his tentacle porn fetish), but there's a line between laughing at a self-righteous hypocrite and obsessing about the personal and private lives of complete strangers, and I think that some comments here have crossed it.

Especially since PZ isn't a graphomaniac over-sharer like Carrier. We don't know the details of PZ' sex or family life, only some hints, and quite frankly I don't think we need to know or care or speculate more about that.

Yes, he's a lol-cow, and his moral standards are laughably inconsistent, but there's no need to get personal. It's not productive, it's not very clever, it's not needed.

Rant over. Sorry for the inconvenience. You can all ignore me now :bjarte:

Sorry, PZ is an hypocrite, what with his students-as-mermaids sex dreams, hentai rape porn fetishes and "true vulval feel" ickyness. So when he poses as a chaste gallant, he's fair game for ridicule. And actually, dating someone for months without even kissing is creepy in its own right.

As for the Skank, she's the one who voluntarily turned her life in The Truman Show. She's a detestable, vile excuse for a human being, and has been abusing her dog. No holds barred.

BTW, I noticed that Encyclopedia Dramatica is presenting as an authentic PZ quote one that I made up as part of an open parody:

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/PZ_Myers

#514

Kirbmarc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Sorry Kirb - but that tweet demands an equal and opposite reaction.

If he goes public he invites scrutiny. Simple as that. The guy is a laughing stock who seeks to be dangerous. His tweets are grist to the mill.

Next Indy and the cuck will be verboten. :bjarte:

Months to get a kiss. :lol: :lol: :x
I'm not trying to police anyone's behavior, only asking why we should focus on this stuff. And yes, it includes pretty much all the Watson stuff with the dog and her boyfriend. Quite frankly, what's the point?

I understand pointing out the hypocrisy of PZ pontificating on other people's sex lives as if he were some kind of absolute moral authority on what's sexually appropriate (when he carries on promoting his tentacle porn fetish), but there's a line between laughing at a self-righteous hypocrite and obsessing about the personal and private lives of complete strangers, and I think that some comments here have crossed it.

Especially since PZ isn't a graphomaniac over-sharer like Carrier. We don't know the details of PZ' sex or family life, only some hints, and quite frankly I don't think we need to know or care or speculate more about that.

Yes, he's a lol-cow, and his moral standards are laughably inconsistent, but there's no need to get personal. It's not productive, it's not very clever, it's not needed.

Rant over. Sorry for the inconvenience. You can all ignore me now :bjarte:

Sorry, PZ is an hypocrite, what with his students-as-mermaids sex dreams, hentai rape porn fetishes and "true vulval feel" ickyness. So when he poses as a chaste gallant, he's fair game for ridicule. And actually, dating someone for months without even kissing is creepy in its own right.

As for the Skank, she's the one who voluntarily turned her life in The Truman Show. She's a detestable, vile excuse for a human being, and has been abusing her dog. No holds barred.

BTW, I noticed that Encyclopedia Dramatica is presenting as an authentic PZ quote one that I made up as part of an open parody:

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/PZ_Myers

#515

Billie from Ockham wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

She's a wonderful bird (yes, I'm assuming her gender. Fuck off).

We have a schedule for her take-offs and landings, depending on the wind. We've seen both, and she's as quiet as a mouse. Much less noise than any regular 727 or 320. I think I'm in love with the Machine.

#516

That reminds me, what ever happened to the Shermer threatened legal action against Myers and the "hand grenade" post?

Did Shermer just let it go?

https://thetimchannel.files.wordpress.c ... to-pzm.pdf

#517

InfraRedBucket wrote:
Did Shermer just let it go?

You, my friend, are about to die. Painfully.

#518

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:You learn something new everyday: Richard Feynman was a key expert on the Challenger accident committee. I didn't know that, and I'm as space-geek as they come.

The BBC did a TV movie about it starring William Hurt as Richard Feynman:

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#519

Shatterface wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:You learn something new everyday: Richard Feynman was a key expert on the Challenger accident committee. I didn't know that, and I'm as space-geek as they come.
The BBC did a TV movie about it starring William Hurt as Richard Feynman:

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I'm watching another one right now, but yours is next.

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#520

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:You learn something new everyday: Richard Feynman was a key expert on the Challenger accident committee. I didn't know that, and I'm as space-geek as they come.

Read Genius: The Life and Science of Richard Feynman by James Gleick. Fascinating.

#521

Feynman was battling cancer at the time.

#522

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:You learn something new everyday: Richard Feynman was a key expert on the Challenger accident committee. I didn't know that, and I'm as space-geek as they come.
Read Genius: The Life and Science of Richard Feynman by James Gleick. Fascinating.

And this, part of which covers the inquiry and formed the basis of the TV movie:

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Do ... e_Think%3F

#523

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Shatterface wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:You learn something new everyday: Richard Feynman was a key expert on the Challenger accident committee. I didn't know that, and I'm as space-geek as they come.
The BBC did a TV movie about it starring William Hurt as Richard Feynman:

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I'm watching another one right now, but yours is next.

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That's my evening sorted, unless Nadal v Muller goes on all night.

#524

WHY? Why the hell do American leftists promote a fan of muslim theocracy as the face of their "resistance"?

Seriously, why? What's the point? This is really stupid.

#525

Kirbmarc wrote:WHY? Why the hell do American leftists promote a fan of muslim theocracy as the face of their "resistance"?

Seriously, why? What's the point? This is really stupid.

We Americans love our dichotomy and our underdogs. Sarsour (sp?) is sort of the anti-Trump. The fact that Trump is not completely wrong in all things is lost on much of the left, and they simply look for his opposite. Most Americans do not handle nuance well.

#526

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:We Americans love our dichotomy and our underdogs. Sarsour (sp?) is sort of the anti-Trump. The fact that Trump is not completely wrong in all things is lost on much of the left, and they simply look for his opposite. Most Americans do not handle nuance well.

Trump is a moron and a con artist who, when he's right, is only right by accident, but still, that's not a good reason to give a platform to the Ann Coulter of islam.

#527

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I just watched Frozen for the first time. How is that piece of shit getting so much praise?

It's pretty bad. Cheap by Disney standards too. I don't think it's a good movie at all, but there's some fun to be had by looking at just what it is the fans seem to like the most.

So you've got the two sisters. One's the main character, yet oddly she's not the popular one. Everybody is fucking obsessed with Elsa, who's as white as you can get without being albino. I think the fanbase didn't get the memo from feminism that they're supposed to root for assertive action heroines and not passive pretty princesses who did nothing to earn their status or (literal magic) power.

But maybe, just maybe, that's the character most little girls actually want to be.

#528

Kirbmarc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:We Americans love our dichotomy and our underdogs. Sarsour (sp?) is sort of the anti-Trump. The fact that Trump is not completely wrong in all things is lost on much of the left, and they simply look for his opposite. Most Americans do not handle nuance well.
Trump is a moron and a con artist who, when he's right, is only right by accident, but still, that's not a good reason to give a platform to the Ann Coulter of islam.

It sure isn't. But if you're not for one thing, you must be for the opposite, according to modern thinking. It seems that you are either entirely for emigration, take 'em all in, poor dears, or build a wall to keep them all out, the terrorist bastards. You are either pro-Trump, and would excuse him kissing Putin's feet on the Capital steps, or Trump is a demon whose every idea should be opposed no matter what.

If Trump is against Muslims and a misogynist and finds sharia law evil, why then the regressive left will find the opposite and espouse that person, no matter how contrary those person's ideology is to classic liberal ideals. Again, no nuance. If one thing is bad, find the opposite and declare it good.

It's becoming disturbingly common, and not just in the United States. The whole idea of nuanced positions is not only unpopular, it is actively mocked by people on either side. Tribalism for the win. :bjarte:

#529

I saw a very dumb argument that went something like: "If you say black and white thinking is bad and nuance is good that itself is the same kind of dichotomy you claim to be against."

#530

Kirbmarc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:We Americans love our dichotomy and our underdogs. Sarsour (sp?) is sort of the anti-Trump. The fact that Trump is not completely wrong in all things is lost on much of the left, and they simply look for his opposite. Most Americans do not handle nuance well.
Trump is a moron and a con artist who, when he's right, is only right by accident, but still, that's not a good reason to give a platform to the Ann Coulter of islam.

LoL. Nothing like painting with an overly broad brush - "four legs good, two legs bad" FTW! (Although I largely agree with your earlier comments about cheap shots directed PZ's way.) But somewhat apropos of that MO:

And a balanced and nuanced post (and a cogent comment thereon even if I do say so myself ...) over at Quillette by Cathy Young on Trump's "Western civilization" speech in Poland:
Trump’s Warsaw Speech: Defending the West or Defending Illiberalism?

#531

Sunder wrote:I saw a very dumb argument that went something like: "If you say black and white thinking is bad and nuance is good that itself is the same kind of dichotomy you claim to be against."

Right. And if you eat right, not too much or too little, you're just as need of help as someone who's severely obese or anorexic.

#532

Steersman wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:We Americans love our dichotomy and our underdogs. Sarsour (sp?) is sort of the anti-Trump. The fact that Trump is not completely wrong in all things is lost on much of the left, and they simply look for his opposite. Most Americans do not handle nuance well.
Trump is a moron and a con artist who, when he's right, is only right by accident, but still, that's not a good reason to give a platform to the Ann Coulter of islam.
LoL. Nothing like painting with an overly broad brush - "four legs good, two legs bad" FTW! (Although I largely agree with your earlier comments about cheap shots directed PZ's way.) But somewhat apropos of that MO:

And a balanced and nuanced post (and a cogent comment thereon even if I do say so myself ...) over at Quillette by Cathy Young on Trump's "Western civilization" speech in Poland:
Trump’s Warsaw Speech: Defending the West or Defending Illiberalism?

I agree that Trump isn't the Nazi Rapist Baby-Killing Demon that far too many in the left think he is. But he's still a bad president: nepotistic, incompetent, scientifically illiterate, a fan of simplistic thinking and conspiracy theories, probably corrupt, surely inocherent and confused, has shady ties to Russia like Clinton had shady ties to the KSA (at best, we'll see what comes out of the Muller investigation) and has a terrible track record when it comes to delivering what he's promised to do (see Trump University, Trump Steak, Trump Casino, etc. etc.).

He's also often petty and childish and prone to writing stupid things on Twitter.

The "Western civilization" speech in Poland wasn't the Secret Nazi Screed that the "Resistance" believes it is, but a) it likely wasn't written by Trump, and is delivery is atrocious and b) it's not entirely clear what he meant in some points. The article by Cathy Young is rather clear about that.

#533

Why is Steers a part of the discussion?

Really, the bot is just reposting his wank-fest twitter shit. I don't care, and I bet many Pit people don't either.

"Nonetheless" "a propos", "Gander for the goose" whatever. This bot is getting on my nerves. No need to reply, Steers.

.

#534

So he's a net positive then.

People will have to stop looking to government(s) to solve their problems - and start doing things for themselves.

Perhaps this the 'libertarian moment' that Nick Gillespie at Reason talks so much about.

#535

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Why is Steers a part of the discussion?
Really, the bot is just reposting his wank-fest twitter shit. I don't care, and I bet many Pit people don't either.
"Nonetheless" "a propos", "Gander for the goose" whatever. This bot is getting on my nerves. No need to reply, Steers.

At least he has learned to be more concise. Far better than the word vomit he used to engage in. To be fare, on occasion the does bring up an interesting subject or two.

#536

MarcusAu wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:But but but ...

Can we still mock daughter's green sludge dinners? Or Mary's snow shovling while PZ plays? Or their silent dinners at restaurants? What about the irony of soldier-son? Trophy wife and vibrators?

Why can PZ introduce his personal life at will in often a politicised manner with counter strokes sending the pit to the fainting couch?

I call bullshit on this selective "oh my"

And with that I go to bed.
You will have to use your own judgement.

Commentary on such matters should be proscribed (if necessary) by your own sense of decorum and good taste.

Both of which went out the window (on this topic) when I joined the Pit.

The man's a cunt and everything he publicly posts is ripe for ridicule.

#537

Since you joined the 'Pit?

I thought you had always been Australian.

#538

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Why is Steers a part of the discussion?

Really, the bot is just reposting his wank-fest twitter shit. I don't care, and I bet many Pit people don't either.

"Nonetheless" "a propos", "Gander for the goose" whatever. This bot is getting on my nerves. No need to reply, Steers.

I quite enjoy his posts.

Also, if you don't care, how can he get on your nerves?

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#539

Guest_84d94f98 wrote:
Really? wrote:Please don't refer to PZ as a baby walrus. We're all frustrated with him, we all think he's a harmful person,
Is PZ still in anyway harmful or a threat to anyone? His horde has dwindled down to nothing. All of the people he wished to virtue signal to think he is a utter twat. Page views for his blog network are way down to the point of irrelevance. His reputation within the atheist/skeptic community is probably lower than Aleksandr Kolpakav. Now at best he occasional gets invited to debate bigfoot fans at the loony convention.

The only people left available to be harmed by him are this poor students who are clueless as to what they are getting themselves into by subjecting themselves to his authority.

-Soylent

I still think he could manage some malevolence if he tried. Enough people still read his blog that if he wanted to dox some more people, or go back to his "always name names" strategy (of calling people out) he could probably do some damage. I get the feeling that PZ is a bit tired of the whole "naming names" thing, though. The same call out strategy he milked for clicks tore his blog network apart, and it also backfired as it left him open to charges of hypocrisy. I think he sees what that approach got him, and he's sick of having a target on his back.

I could be wrong, though. I don't really go to his blog anymore, so it could be that he's trying to witch hunt people and stir shit, and the only difference is that now no one gives a fuck.

#540

What was the name of the dog in Dambusters again? Don't say it though!! A Tory MP, just down the road from me in Newton Abbott, Devon has been suspended for saying "Nigger in the woodpile" in Parliament.

She should have said "cunt" instead, don't you think?