In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary

#6661

Lsuoma wrote:
Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote:Houston, I think you have a problem :(

Five miles from my house
Vertically or horizontally?

Diagonally

#6662

Tobe Hooper has died.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41065552

:sad:

#6663

Kirbmarc wrote:

I get why Zvan likes Harley Quinn now. It's the fantasy of being violent without negative consequences, of hurting people while still being cute and lovable.

It's that and Harley Quinn is also a tragic victim. She is compassionate and loving, but when she gives her love so selflessly her beloved Joker destroys her life, abuses, and beats her. Is she identifying with Harley because her hubby is an abuser or does she just fantasize about getting slapped around? She loves victimhood, can't stop talking about being abused and it gives her a righteous excuse to behave like a hateful bitch.
Odd thing about how some feminists want to identify with Harley Quinn, to the point of LARPing about it on videos, like one of the surviving girlfriends of the feminist killer Russian Deadpool, or the goofy pal of Jenny Mc Derp, Mrs. Buntzums.

#6664

shoutinghorse wrote:Kicking off in Berkeley again, where are the police?

Are you certain its not because phones were created and produced by the Evil White Crapitalistic Colonialist Patriarchy ™ ???

#6665

Wes Craven two years ago, now Romero and Hooper just a month apart. These are the people who helped me misspend my youth.

#6666

rayshul wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
DW Adams wrote:snip

As a U-haul dealer, I can tell you Watson didn't read her reservation confirmation message. She probably requested the dealer she went to, but they didn't have the equipment she wanted and Traffic rerouted her to a dealer that did. In short, she's a moron.
Can you please explain the joke about lesbians ans U-haul trailers?
I can't tell if you're joking or not. ^_^

:shifty:

#6667

On the topic of The Philosophy of Feminist Harley Quinn Fans, my upcoming book.

#6668

Shatterface wrote:Wes Craven two years ago, now Romero and Hooper just a month apart. These are the people who helped me misspend my youth.

If your activities also involved Bruce Forsyth, Robert Hardy and Jerry Lewis - it must have been a strange childhood indeed.

Here's to Mr Hooper - Texas would have been a little less interesting place without him.

#6669

Kirbmarc wrote:I think that the weak point of the analysis is the idea that people will stay static and that the nice, liberal, democratic capitalist memeplex has no effect on them. Compare and contrast Italy in the 1950s (tribal, clannish, very religious even in the prosperous north) with Italy in the 2010s (far less tribal,clannish and religious even though there's been a very strong internal migration). Similarly compare Switzerland in the 1950s (no vote for women, very tribal) with Switzerland today (more or less on the same level of Germany or France).

The nice, liberal, democratic capitalist memeplex has clearly at least SOME capacity to influence the masses through mass education, the media discouse, etc. The mistake of some progressives is to believe that this capacity is infinite, but the mistake of the alt-right is to think it's zero.

It's also possible that it has nothing to do with immigration, and that the kind of society the end-of-history-90s seemed to be may in fact also contain the seeds of its own destruction. There's a line in one of Dostoevsky's books, Peterson references a lot, that I think is true. You put a man in a utopia, where he has nothing to do all day but eat cake and fornicate, and it won't be long before he's cutting himself and seeking to destroy it from sheer boredom. I more or less had that idea rolling around in my head well before. It's one of the primary reasons I'm an atheist - an immortal soul that lives forever in paradise after death seems inherently to necessarily degenerate into endless torture. Mass immigration may just be the 'cutting ourselves' phase of the process.

#6670

#6671

Peterson has also quoted the Dostoevsky line "Without god everything is permitted" too.

He seems to take a pessimistic view of the human race and I think is projecting his own needs onto society at large. Perhaps others do this too but his style seems to be more of lecture (not surprisingly) if not outright sermon.

I t would be really interesting for him to be involved in debate about some of his ideas - in mythology, religion or gender roles - if only to highlight where the bounds of his knowledge actually lie and to contrast his thoughts with the mainstream consensus.

#6672

content warning: creepy
[youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLfsOGM-jNc&t=2s][/youtube]

Feminists really hate men, and when you think of the feminist men they are presumably matched with, no wonder.

#6673

Sorry. try this male feminist for the creepy win.

#6674

stole this from Mano Singham

#6675

John D wrote:

Am I seeing things, or were a couple of those jolly parade leaders sporting Thompson .45 submachine guns? WTF?

#6676

John D wrote:

It's that jolly little bounce that does the trick :)

#6677

free thoughtpolice wrote:stole this from Mano Singham

Thank you!

#6678

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
John D wrote:
Am I seeing things, or were a couple of those jolly parade leaders sporting Thompson .45 submachine guns? WTF?

It has a drum mag, but it's not a Thompson, Thompsons didn't have a one piece wooden stock. By the way, most Thompsons used in combat used thirty round stick mags, the drums were prone to feed failure.

#6679

TheMudbrooker wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
John D wrote:
Am I seeing things, or were a couple of those jolly parade leaders sporting Thompson .45 submachine guns? WTF?
It has a drum mag, but it's not a Thompson, Thompsons didn't have a one piece wooden stock. By the way, most Thompsons used in combat used thirty round stick mags, the drums were prone to feed failure.

Huh, I can't see it on my bitty phone screen, but it's not a PPSh. Those wacky nuts.

#6680

It appears to be a Chinese Type 50 SMG that was used during the Korean War.

#6681

MarcusAu wrote:He seems to take a pessimistic view of the human race and I think is projecting his own needs onto society at large. Perhaps others do this too but his style seems to be more of lecture (not surprisingly) if not outright sermon.

I'm not sure of that. I think his position is more that the most dangerous people are the ones who don't believe they have the capacity to be evil. And I completely agree with him there. This is exactly the problem with SJW-types. They believe they are so virtuous that they can think they are completely righteous in shutting down speech they disagree with or punch nazis. They can perpetuate evil because they are so sure that they are morally pure. The other part of it is that humans are also incredibly noble. That's the essence of civilisation - knowing that you are capable of evil, but that you are in control of it - that is what makes a person civilised.

MarcusAu wrote:It would be really interesting for him to be involved in debate about some of his ideas - in mythology, religion or gender roles - if only to highlight where the bounds of his knowledge actually lie and to contrast his thoughts with the mainstream consensus.

That's exactly what I was hoping his conversation with Sam Harris would be. Maybe a discussion with Jonathan Haidt could do this better.

#6682

The Google / Twitter / Patreon / Facebook descent into A Plus-ism really is like the Rise of the Machines.

Always feared, never quite to be believed.

Guest_ce7ed1c6 · #6683

Also like:

+ Invasion of the Body Snatchers
+ A Wrinkle in Time

re: the latter, I am really looking forward to the movie scheduled to come out in 2018.

It will be interesting on many fronts, it seems at its heart to be a free speech, anti-mccarthyism, anti-communism story, but by 2018 it is produced with a heroine who is explicitly "mixed race", dunno why I scare quote that, but it seems ugly to me to write it out or to care. Uber white patrriarchal Chris Pine is her father, Oprah is a space alien and hero, I am probably being overly hopeful, but the combination of all of this could really be a pivotal moment.

Nah, what am I kidding, 10:1 this movie is rated Pr for Problematical two months before it comes out.

#6684

Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:Nautica Myles. Great name for a porno film actress. having sex on the beach, on boats, etc

:cdc:

"What were you thinking of Naughtyca darling? You seemed Myles away."

#6685

free thoughtpolice wrote:I'd given up on checking the Orbit for new posts and nearly missed this gem from the Zvanatee:
http://archive.is/HbbmC
I remember back when other atheists were talking about me being too ugly to rape, which meant people in this movement I work in were talking about raping me, with very little outrage from the rest of the movement.

No Steffie dear, they may just have been talking about a woman's average chance of getting popped in the atheist movement at a time when all of them were being accused of being rapists.

#6686

Shatterface wrote:How do you get from 'too ugly to rape' to 'talking about raping me'?

It's difficult not to see some wishful thinking there, isn't it.

#6687

Keating wrote:
...

That's the essence of civilisation - knowing that you are capable of evil, but that you are in control of it - that is what makes a person civilised.

...

It's not really a problem for most...

#6688

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237

This pilot study compared mothers of boys with gender identity disorder (GID) with mothers of normal boys to determine whether differences in psychopathology and child-rearing attitudes and practices could be identified. Results of the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines and the Beck Depression Inventory revealed that mothers of boys with GID had more symptoms of depression and more often met the criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder than the controls. Fifty-three percent of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory. Results of the Summers and Walsh Symbiosis Scale suggested that mothers of probands had child-rearing attitudes and practices that encouraged symbiosis and discouraged the development of autonomy.

Science people wtf is this

It's a little terrifying please help, is that real

#6689

rayshul wrote:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237

This pilot study compared mothers of boys with gender identity disorder (GID) with mothers of normal boys to determine whether differences in psychopathology and child-rearing attitudes and practices could be identified. Results of the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines and the Beck Depression Inventory revealed that mothers of boys with GID had more symptoms of depression and more often met the criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder than the controls. Fifty-three percent of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory. Results of the Summers and Walsh Symbiosis Scale suggested that mothers of probands had child-rearing attitudes and practices that encouraged symbiosis and discouraged the development of autonomy.
Science people wtf is this

It's a little terrifying please help, is that real

So there is a correlation between transgender-pooha and a depressive mother, but that doesn't yet indicate causality.

I'm surprised they can still get away with calling it a 'gender identity disorder' without getting torn to shreds.

#6690

Kirbmarc wrote: I get why Zvan likes Harley Quinn now. It's the fantasy of being violent without negative consequences, of hurting people while still being cute and lovable. Just like PeeZie fantasizes about shanking priests as proxies for the jocks who gave him wedgies.

Shit you're right.

And Harley is a victim so it's okay for her to fight back. She gets super SJW victim cred and she's a psychopath and it's fun and cute.

FUCK.

I like Harley as a character but that's because she's fun to watch, I fucking never would empathise with her because she's a battered whimpering psychopath and basically the worst human in the whole villains list.

#6691

Gad chats with Raheem.

https://youtu.be/s-WAJp8FAzg

(The YouTube BBcode doesn't work on my tablet for some reason)

#6692

rayshul wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote: I get why Zvan likes Harley Quinn now. It's the fantasy of being violent without negative consequences, of hurting people while still being cute and lovable. Just like PeeZie fantasizes about shanking priests as proxies for the jocks who gave him wedgies.
Shit you're right.

And Harley is a victim so it's okay for her to fight back. She gets super SJW victim cred and she's a psychopath and it's fun and cute.

FUCK.

I like Harley as a character but that's because she's fun to watch, I fucking never would empathise with her because she's a battered whimpering psychopath and basically the worst human in the whole villains list.

I like the character too, but she's (obviously) a terrible role mode in real life. It's one thing to like a character who is clearly psychologically damaged because she's fun, well written and somewhat sympathetic, another to write "my Harley Quinn" and to argue that she's actually an icon, something that represents you. This is especially true for someone like Zvan, who openly fantasizes about shooting guns and about killing the people who assault her because they'd look more sympathetic than her in court.

Imagine a young man who spent time fantasizing about killing jocks who make fun of him since just reacting to their teasing would make him unsympathetic. Imagine that this young man would write blog posts about shooting guns and about how the Punisher is "his" punisher and not an anti-hero who is sympathetic to a degree but severely flawed, but instead an icon of masculinity and a role model. The SocJus would call him a misogynistic psychopath, a shitlord, a white supremacist, etc. etc.

There's nothing wrong with liking a character who is violent, villainous, psychopathic, etc. There's nothing wrong with arguing that they're sympathetic or misunderstood. It's the combination of hero-worship towards a clearly flawed fictional character and other violent fantasies of revenge and of justice which is a red flag, especially if you're also part of a movement which celebrates a political use of violence.

I don't think that either Zvan or PeeZie are actually violent or dangerous, because they're slackers and keyboard warriors who in real life are timid and meek. However they like to live out their violent fantasies vicariously, through groups of street fighters that they deem to be righteous.

Ultimately for people like Zvan or PZ politics isn't a tool to solve issues and improve society, it's an outlet for their frustrations. Frustrated, angry, unsatisfied people who don't channel their anger into something productive but instead keep mumbling about how it's all so unfair need an enemy, someone to blame, someone who can be attacked with no negative social consequences. This is true both for the left and for the right.

The SocJus needed someone to "punch up". They've found them, and the fact that their enemies are socially reviled encourages them to do more and more of the same. The election of Donald Trump has been exactly what the SocJus desired: the Enemy, clearly visible and in their sights, good to justify all their dreams of tearing apart Tiger tanks or shooting shitlords.

Trump has played the same kind of cards when it comes to the populist right: there's an Enemy responsible for all of your troubles and frustrations, it's clearly visible and it justifies all of your dreams of revenge.

When the personal becomes political and the political becomes personal politics is just a tool for revenge, to hit the Enemy until it bleeds. Improving things becomes secondary to the idea of "drinking X tears" and what really matters isn't dealing with issues, but being happy at someone else's misery.

#6693

Can anybody EVER remember SZvan getting a serious rape proposal.

A real promise for unrequited PIV jiggy jig?

#6694

Feminist icon vs. pastors of color:

Black Pastors Demand Smithsonian Remove Statue of Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/08/27/blac ... ign=buffer

:popcorn:

#6695

I was tracking down the location of the 1941 Lietūkis Garage Massacre in Kaunas, Lithuania.

Annoyingly, this site places it at 43 Vitautas Avenue. http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/kovno-g ... ania-1941/

Annnd this one places the memorial access point at Miško Street 1 http://defendinghistory.com/the-june-20 ... acre/74966

That's a good couple of hundred metres of difference. No wonder there are deniers.

.....

Speaking of which I annoyed my Twitter pet Nazi trad-thot Lady Lily. I've been engaging / following trying to work out if she is a poe, a beautiful blonde talk-walker or a fat man employed by the daily stormer as agitprop. I'm down to number 2 or 3, tending to 2. Her vibe swings female or to raving queer.

She retweeted this rather amazing video:

To which I replied:

Only to find this famous pic is the centre of a storm over whether it is a) soviet BS. b) real but often shamelessly manipulated via cropping or c) a bunch of nice nazis protecting peasants from off camera soviet assault.

At the very least it appears the dude isn't actually shooting at the chick (though his mates probably are) - which is the usual narrative.

Anyway, a bunch of nazis came in supporting Adolfs white knight and I've been asked to watch this series.
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo ... X9P6IrYfIe

First episode is quite the incredible eye opener. Amazing what gets past YouTube when they are too busy anal-ysing sweet Lauren's every move.

Other than that, all quiet for now on the eastern front.

#6696

Well imagine my shock :o .. I wouldn't get into an uber cab if they paid me.

#6697

Which led me to the final observation.

Why don't the white supremacist nazis own the holocaust? I mean all this stinking Jewish commie Untermensch polluting the European Motherland.

What exactly is the problem with slash and burn? Yet you just don't get them giving the Nazis the credit due. Always selling them short. The greatest crime in history.

#6698

Time for me to snag a new GPS running watch. I will probably grab one of the top recommendations from the DC rainmaker, like I did for my last watch. Going for GPS, heart rate, pedometer, ability to upload data to my computer & can be submerged under water for up to 5 minutes. And of course the killer feature it being able to pick up the GPS satellites quickly. A good pace alert system is a decent nice-to-have.

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/11/win ... tions.html

Looks like the top picks are:
* Garmin Vivoactive HR
* Garmin FR630
* Garmin 735XT

I am not that price sensitive as I will get good use out of the watch, but only for my personal health, performance & speed (not serious competition).

I'll be reading through the reviews in the next few days. If anyone has any comments on the performance of the watches, let me know. Or if there are new killer features that have popped in in the past 6-7 years.

#6699

Brive1987 wrote:Amazing what gets past YouTube when they are too busy anal-ysing sweet Lauren's every move.

I actually watched one of her non-drama videos that was not pointed out to me. (I think I subscribed after the censorship drama to keep an eye on things).

It turns out that when she is not pulling that identitarian crap, she doesn't do a half bad job.

#6700

Suet Cardigan wrote:Feminist icon vs. pastors of color:

Black Pastors Demand Smithsonian Remove Statue of Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger
http://www.lifenews.com/2015/08/27/blac ... ign=buffer

:popcorn:

I kind of agree with them. Sanger was a pretty fucked up eugenicists. The one admirable thing she should be remembered for is her advocacy of "planned parenthood", but everything else about her was deplorable. She's probably the most misunderstood historical figure for both the left and right. Parts of that article didn't even get it right. She didn't advocate abortion! She was anti-abortionist, pro-contraceptionist. I remember saying this on a right wing Christian website and blowing everyone's minds. Everyone just takes it as given that she favored abortion. Truth be told, Sanger is on of those figures that both left and right should revile, if they actually understood what she stood for. Instead the right thinks she was the mad abortionist and the left thinks she was some kind of ahead of her time progressive idol.

#6701

deLurch wrote:Time for me to snag a new GPS running watch. I will probably grab one of the top recommendations from the DC rainmaker, like I did for my last watch. Going for GPS, heart rate, pedometer,

Good idea. It's always good to know exactly where you are when you run into a pedophile.

(Or is it meant for a pedophile to locate the children?)

#6702

Suet Cardigan wrote:Feminist icon vs. pastors of color:

Black Pastors Demand Smithsonian Remove Statue of Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger
http://www.lifenews.com/2015/08/27/blac ... ign=buffer

:popcorn:

Step right up folks! Place your bets! Who will triumph in the Oppression Olympics today!

:popcorn:

#6703

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
John D wrote:
Am I seeing things, or were a couple of those jolly parade leaders sporting Thompson .45 submachine guns? WTF?

This video makes my tits very happy...

#6704

gurugeorge wrote:
Suet Cardigan wrote:Feminist icon vs. pastors of color:

Black Pastors Demand Smithsonian Remove Statue of Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger
http://www.lifenews.com/2015/08/27/blac ... ign=buffer

:popcorn:
Step right up folks! Place your bets! Who will triumph in the Oppression Olympics today!

:popcorn:

The reality is it was only a matter of time before an icon of the left came under fire, and I have to admit, Sanger is probably an ideal candidate. I mean, I don't really agree with any of it. If you're fool enough to think Sanger, Robert Lee, Christopher Columbus or fucking Adolph Hitler was wholly admirable because you see a bust, yes a bust, in the hall of fame... well, you're an idiot.

#6705

feathers wrote:
deLurch wrote:Time for me to snag a new GPS running watch. I will probably grab one of the top recommendations from the DC rainmaker, like I did for my last watch. Going for GPS, heart rate, pedometer,
Good idea. It's always good to know exactly where you are when you run into a pedophile.

(Or is it meant for a pedophile to locate the children?)

#6706

deLurch wrote:Time for me to snag a new GPS running watch. I will probably grab one of the top recommendations from the DC rainmaker, like I did for my last watch. Going for GPS, heart rate, pedometer, ability to upload data to my computer & can be submerged under water for up to 5 minutes. And of course the killer feature it being able to pick up the GPS satellites quickly. A good pace alert system is a decent nice-to-have.

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/11/win ... tions.html

Looks like the top picks are:
* Garmin Vivoactive HR
* Garmin FR630
* Garmin 735XT

I am not that price sensitive as I will get good use out of the watch, but only for my personal health, performance & speed (not serious competition).

I'll be reading through the reviews in the next few days. If anyone has any comments on the performance of the watches, let me know. Or if there are new killer features that have popped in in the past 6-7 years.

Why not go Old School?

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#6707

One for the UK Pitters. Seen this doing the rounds on social media. A Corbynite has drummed up a spreadsheet listing the "biases" of various journalists. It is quite funny. Some rather odd conclusions, i.e. Peter Hitchens being on "the left" and a "Labour supporter", is a laugh. While New Statesman journos Stephen Bush and Helen Lewis, who I have always regarded as being definitely on the left, and a bit SJW, are listed as Tories!!! Also, James Bloodworth, who is a proper liberal and leftie, is classed as "right wing", presumably because he is, and was always, critical of Saint Jeremy of Corbyn.

Have a gander.

http://i.imgur.com/r1GDV8g.jpg

#6708

rayshul wrote:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237

This pilot study compared mothers of boys with gender identity disorder (GID) with mothers of normal boys to determine whether differences in psychopathology and child-rearing attitudes and practices could be identified. Results of the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines and the Beck Depression Inventory revealed that mothers of boys with GID had more symptoms of depression and more often met the criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder than the controls. Fifty-three percent of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory. Results of the Summers and Walsh Symbiosis Scale suggested that mothers of probands had child-rearing attitudes and practices that encouraged symbiosis and discouraged the development of autonomy.
Science people wtf is this

It's a little terrifying please help, is that real

It's stunning, is what. BPD is c. 60% heritable, with the environmental usually abuse or neglect in childhood (which is highly likely when your mom is BPD or clinically depressed.) BPs have great difficulty developing a self-identity or "personhood", feel essentially empty or hollow inside, and often display a "chameleon-like ability" to mimic the identity of others in order to gain acceptance. They are also extremely impulsive, seeking rash, risky, or drastic resolutions to the atypically-intense emotions they struggle to regulate.

feathers wrote:So there is a correlation between transgender-pooha and a depressive mother, but that doesn't yet indicate causality.

Correlation is not causation, but the correlation here is off the charts. The Control is about spot-on, as an estimated 6-10% of the general population is BP. The subject group's mothers were nine times that.

There can be no reverse (child-to-mother) causation, and it's hard to conceive of a third factor as the etiology for both the mother's BPD and the child's GID.

#6709

rayshul wrote:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237

This pilot study compared mothers of boys with gender identity disorder (GID) with mothers of normal boys to determine whether differences in psychopathology and child-rearing attitudes and practices could be identified. Results of the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines and the Beck Depression Inventory revealed that mothers of boys with GID had more symptoms of depression and more often met the criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder than the controls. Fifty-three percent of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory. Results of the Summers and Walsh Symbiosis Scale suggested that mothers of probands had child-rearing attitudes and practices that encouraged symbiosis and discouraged the development of autonomy.
Science people wtf is this

It's a little terrifying please help, is that real

It's stunning, is what. BPD is c. 60% heritable, with the environmental usually abuse or neglect in childhood (which is highly likely when your mom is BPD or clinically depressed.) BPs have great difficulty developing a self-identity or "personhood", feel essentially empty or hollow inside, and often display a "chameleon-like ability" to mimic the identity of others in order to gain acceptance. They are also extremely impulsive, seeking rash, risky, or drastic resolutions to the atypically-intense emotions they struggle to regulate.

feathers wrote:So there is a correlation between transgender-pooha and a depressive mother, but that doesn't yet indicate causality.

Correlation is not causation, but the correlation here is off the charts. The Control is about spot-on, as an estimated 6-10% of the general population is BP. The subject group's mothers were nine times that.

There can be no reverse (child-to-mother) causation, and it's hard to conceive of a third factor as the etiology for both the mother's BPD and the child's GID.

#6710

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
rayshul wrote:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237

This pilot study compared mothers of boys with gender identity disorder (GID) with mothers of normal boys to determine whether differences in psychopathology and child-rearing attitudes and practices could be identified. Results of the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines and the Beck Depression Inventory revealed that mothers of boys with GID had more symptoms of depression and more often met the criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder than the controls. Fifty-three percent of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory. Results of the Summers and Walsh Symbiosis Scale suggested that mothers of probands had child-rearing attitudes and practices that encouraged symbiosis and discouraged the development of autonomy.
Science people wtf is this

It's a little terrifying please help, is that real
It's stunning, is what. BPD is c. 60% heritable, with the environmental usually abuse or neglect in childhood (which is highly likely when your mom is BPD or clinically depressed.) BPs have great difficulty developing a self-identity or "personhood", feel essentially empty or hollow inside, and often display a "chameleon-like ability" to mimic the identity of others in order to gain acceptance. They are also extremely impulsive, seeking rash, risky, or drastic resolutions to the atypically-intense emotions they struggle to regulate.

feathers wrote:So there is a correlation between transgender-pooha and a depressive mother, but that doesn't yet indicate causality.
Correlation is not causation, but the correlation here is off the charts. The Control is about spot-on, as an estimated 6-10% of the general population is BP. The subject group's mothers were nine times that.

There can be no reverse (child-to-mother) causation, and it's hard to conceive of a third factor as the etiology for both the mother's BPD and the child's GID.

No shit Sherlock. Gender Dysphoria IS A MENTAL DISORDER. It is not proof that gender is a spectrum.... and... is "GID" the latest term for this disorder?

#6711

CommanderTuvok wrote:One for the UK Pitters. Seen this doing the rounds on social media. A Corbynite has drummed up a spreadsheet listing the "biases" of various journalists. It is quite funny. Some rather odd conclusions, i.e. Peter Hitchens being on "the left" and a "Labour supporter", is a laugh. While New Statesman journos Stephen Bush and Helen Lewis, who I have always regarded as being definitely on the left, and a bit SJW, are listed as Tories!!! Also, James Bloodworth, who is a proper liberal and leftie, is classed as "right wing", presumably because he is, and was always, critical of Saint Jeremy of Corbyn.

Have a gander.

http://i.imgur.com/r1GDV8g.jpg

Maajid Nawaz classed as Right. Horseshit. Centre left, if anything. He stood as a Liberal candidate in the 2015 GE.

Polly Toynbee classed as Centre Right. HAHAHAHAAAA no.

Laura Kuenssberg classed as Right Wing. Funny thing is, for every frothing lefty I encounter who whines about how she's so pro-tory, I can also find a swivel-eyed righty complaining about her 'obvious' left-wing bias. Indeterminate affiliation, I'd say.

So yeah, that list is about as authorative as I'd expect from a devotee of 'the absolute boy' (where the fuck did that come from, anyway? It's like calling Dot Cotton 'the total girl'. Weird.)

#6712

feathers wrote:
rayshul wrote:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237

This pilot study compared mothers of boys with gender identity disorder (GID) with mothers of normal boys to determine whether differences in psychopathology and child-rearing attitudes and practices could be identified. Results of the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines and the Beck Depression Inventory revealed that mothers of boys with GID had more symptoms of depression and more often met the criteria for Borderline Personality Disorder than the controls. Fifty-three percent of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory. Results of the Summers and Walsh Symbiosis Scale suggested that mothers of probands had child-rearing attitudes and practices that encouraged symbiosis and discouraged the development of autonomy.
Science people wtf is this

It's a little terrifying please help, is that real
So there is a correlation between transgender-pooha and a depressive mother, but that doesn't yet indicate causality.

I'm surprised they can still get away with calling it a 'gender identity disorder' without getting torn to shreds.

The 'normal boys' is more problematic.

As I recall, BPD is particularly high in trans too. Among transactivists it appears to be 110%.

#6713

MSM not perfect, but at least getting more factual about Antifa-
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... california

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/ ... -berkeley/

#6714

Oprah is a space alien

That explains a lot.

#6715

Shatterface wrote: As I recall, BPD is particularly high in trans too. Among transactivists it appears to be 110%.

Transactivists have a Cluster B Royal Flush.

#6716

CommanderTuvok wrote:One for the UK Pitters. Seen this doing the rounds on social media. A Corbynite has drummed up a spreadsheet listing the "biases" of various journalists. It is quite funny. Some rather odd conclusions, i.e. Peter Hitchens being on "the left" and a "Labour supporter", is a laugh. While New Statesman journos Stephen Bush and Helen Lewis, who I have always regarded as being definitely on the left, and a bit SJW, are listed as Tories!!! Also, James Bloodworth, who is a proper liberal and leftie, is classed as "right wing", presumably because he is, and was always, critical of Saint Jeremy of Corbyn.

Have a gander.

http://i.imgur.com/r1GDV8g.jpg

Yep. Peter Hitchens center left. I can see that.
:roll: :roll:

Oh - can any Pitters help me understand why this video reminds me of Sticky Dicky?

#6717

I used to comment at Liberal Conspiracy. I'd love to see Sunny Hundal's face at being placed two places to the right of Peter Hitchens.

#6718

Oh, and I think I've discovered who the real Randy Marsh is:

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/reddit-p ... n-storage/

#6719

CommanderTuvok wrote:One for the UK Pitters. Seen this doing the rounds on social media. A Corbynite has drummed up a spreadsheet listing the "biases" of various journalists. It is quite funny. Some rather odd conclusions, i.e. Peter Hitchens being on "the left" and a "Labour supporter", is a laugh. While New Statesman journos Stephen Bush and Helen Lewis, who I have always regarded as being definitely on the left, and a bit SJW, are listed as Tories!!! Also, James Bloodworth, who is a proper liberal and leftie, is classed as "right wing", presumably because he is, and was always, critical of Saint Jeremy of Corbyn.

Have a gander.

http://i.imgur.com/r1GDV8g.jpg

It's weird/interesting that whoever wrote this considers millennial-style identity politics typical of Abi Wilkinson to be centre-left, and the old school pro-worker pro-unions stance of someone like Mark Steel to be far left. Which of the two is more insanely marxist?

#6720

Lsuoma wrote:

I've done worse to toilet paper.