If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Steersman wrote: Certainly a more tenable position than "trans women are women". Though there seems to be a large & problematic thread of gender essentialism running through the TERF position - which looks rather woo-ish at best, and closer to religious articles of faith:

Guess the ova producers who aren't particularly nurturing, empathetic, supportive, or non-competitive are summarily kicked out of the Sisterhood. The only thing that is essential to "woman" is that, by definition, they produce ova.

Wish you'd get ova this over thing.

Tigzy wrote:

Steersman wrote: Certainly a more tenable position than "trans women are women". Though there seems to be a large & problematic thread of gender essentialism running through the TERF position - which looks rather woo-ish at best, and closer to religious articles of faith:

Yeah Steers. Whatever. I wasn't offering any sort of judgement on the TERF position. TBH, I'm pretty ambivalent about the TERF vs transwomen-are-women thing. I'm happy that these screechers are tearing themselves apart over it, though I have little interest in the particulars of said screeching. Let them fight, as that Jap out of Godzilla said.

Tigzy wrote:

Guess the ova producers who aren't particularly nurturing, empathetic, supportive, or non-competitive are summarily kicked out of the Sisterhood. The only thing that is essential to "woman" is that, by definition, they produce ova.

Ova. Yet again.

Wish you'd get ova this over thing.

THE one thing everyone knows about GIs during World War II is that they were "overpaid, oversexed and over here".

Sunder wrote:If you want to get anal women don't "produce" ova. They're born with all the (potential) ova they'll ever have and spend adulthood cycling through that stockpile until it's gone.

Ovulation is the release of egg from the ovaries.

Definition of female
1 a (1) : of, relating to, or being the sex that typically has the capacity to bear young or produce eggs ....

Sunder wrote:If you want to get anal women don't "produce" ova. They're born with all the (potential) ova they'll ever have and spend adulthood cycling through that stockpile until it's gone.

katamari Damassi wrote:

Sunder wrote:If you want to get anal women don't "produce" ova. They're born with all the (potential) ova they'll ever have and spend adulthood cycling through that stockpile until it's gone.

If you want to get anal, then you don't have to worry about ova.

Dan wrote:What a lineup

free thoughtpolice wrote:

Wish you'd get ova this over thing.

But what if there is a new guest that hasn't heard of this marvelous wisdom or perhaps someone forgot about it?

katamari Damassi wrote:

Sunder wrote:If you want to get anal women don't "produce" ova. They're born with all the (potential) ova they'll ever have and spend adulthood cycling through that stockpile until it's gone.

If you want to get anal, then you don't have to worry about ova.

Sunder wrote:If you want to get anal women don't "produce" ova. They're born with all the (potential) ova they'll ever have and spend adulthood cycling through that stockpile until it's gone.

katamari Damassi wrote:

Sunder wrote:If you want to get anal women don't "produce" ova. They're born with all the (potential) ova they'll ever have and spend adulthood cycling through that stockpile until it's gone.

If you want to get anal, then you don't have to worry about ova.

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

katamari Damassi wrote: <snip>
If you want to get anal, then you don't have to worry about ova.

Steers, by "anal" he means forcing your HDMI connector into their USB port.

Keating wrote:

Dan wrote:What a lineup

I went to the previous one. Back then it was only the faint murmuring of what would eventually become SJWism, but it was clearly present. Since then, the Australian Atheist Foundation has gone full retard, and I renounced my membership.

screwtape wrote:

TheMudbrooker wrote:Nothing to do with chemistry or physics, it's the institutional racism of the photographic industry.

Not a very impressive argument, when the failing films are exemplified by dreadfully underexposed pictures of black people. You need accurate exposure to get accurate colours from film. In my film freezer I still have all sorts of discontinued films, and they'll keep forever as long as they are frozen. I'm not running into issues with inaccurate colour when I develop them.

But for a more topical comment, I'll introduce you to two things:

Cross-processing, which is the darkroom version of cross-dressing. Take a colour slide film, usually processed in the E-6 regimen, and develop it instead in the C-41 regimen usually used for colour negative film. Enjoy seeing all your colours go wrong. Or take a C-41 negative film and develop it in E-6 chemistry and see all the colours go wrong. Fashionable again in the dying days of the hipster resurgence in film use - lomography etc.

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Reverse rolling. Colour film emulsions are applied in layers, with red at the bottom. So, in the dark, take the film out of the cassette and rewind it back in the wrong way, so the emulsion is now on the side of the film away from the camera's lens. The red -sensitive layer will see far more light now that it isn't masked by the blue and green sensitive layers. You get a sort of redscale monochrome result. Truly pretentious hipsters will do double exposures, once from the correct side of the film and once again after reverse rolling it:

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It is known that the triple conjunction of cross-processing, reverse rolling and double exposure will bring on the singularity, and somewhere deep in the pacific northwest a couple of hipsters in a Starbucks will decide one day that they will do it. If only they knew that farting around with bizarrely incorrect processes is not and never has been a substitute for taking a proper photograph.

Tigzy wrote:

Sunder wrote:I remember Spokesgay getting the blunt end of it from ex-friends calling him a TERF for siding with Benson. I also recall his twitter avatar was transsexual Bender from Futurama, so that can't have helped.

I was reminded to check out his Facebook today. He's actually gone full TERF - no two ways about it. He actually wants to drop the 'T' from 'LBQT'; he was also expounding typical TERF fare such as autogynephilia and how trans men can't be proper women because they can't claim the oppression faced by biological women. That sort of stuff.

Given that Benson was - and presumably remains - his fave faghag, I tried having a read of her FB, to see if she has become similarly less reticent about her TERFiness, but it was just post after post bitching about Trump, so in the end I really couldn't be arsed.

katamari Damassi wrote:

Keating wrote:

Dan wrote:What a lineup

I went to the previous one. Back then it was only the faint murmuring of what would eventually become SJWism, but it was clearly present. Since then, the Australian Atheist Foundation has gone full retard, and I renounced my membership.

Is Greta Christina on there for comic relief? Did they see her on stage mental breakdown at Skepticon?

Old_ones wrote:

Keating wrote:I think truth and wisdom get conflated a lot. This is certainly something Peterson is guilty of, especially when he first became prominent.

Interestingly Peterson and Weinstein just went on the Joe Rogan Experience and talked for awhile about exactly this issue.

[youtube.]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G59zsjM2UI[/youtube]

(its all interesting but the part I'm referring to comes around the 1:13 mark.)

Keating wrote:

Dan wrote:What a lineup

I went to the previous one. Back then it was only the faint murmuring of what would eventually become SJWism, but it was clearly present. Since then, the Australian Atheist Foundation has gone full retard, and I renounced my membership.

katamari Damassi wrote:

Keating wrote:

Dan wrote:What a lineup

I went to the previous one. Back then it was only the faint murmuring of what would eventually become SJWism, but it was clearly present. Since then, the Australian Atheist Foundation has gone full retard, and I renounced my membership.

Is Greta Christina on there for comic relief? Did they see her on stage mental breakdown at Skepticon?

And in the middle of them, with filthy body, matted hair, and unwiped nose, Avicenna wept for the end of innocence, the darkness of mans heart, and the fall through the air of the true, wise friend called Carrier.

Brive1987 wrote:

katamari Damassi wrote:

Keating wrote:

I went to the previous one. Back then it was only the faint murmuring of what would eventually become SJWism, but it was clearly present. Since then, the Australian Atheist Foundation has gone full retard, and I renounced my membership.

Is Greta Christina on there for comic relief? Did they see her on stage mental breakdown at Skepticon?

katamari Damassi wrote:BEHOLD! A Salon article against identity politics.

http://www.salon.com/2017/09/02/time

Dan wrote:What a lineup

https://twitter.com/atheistcon/status/8 ... 6076090373

Brive1987 wrote:'Hypothetical' trolley car question.

Is anybody able to produce data calculated to assist Carrier destroy the (other) forces of evil?
If so, what would be the consensus view on making such an effort?

PM for privacy, IUL.

I'm erring on "let the chud-man swing". But then I see the crowd of FtBers:

And in the middle of them, with filthy body, matted hair, and unwiped nose, Avicenna wept for the end of innocence, the darkness of mans heart, and the fall through the air of the true, wise friend called Carrier.

Asking for a friend.

Brive1987 wrote:'Hypothetical' trolley car question.

Is anybody able to produce data calculated to assist Carrier destroy the (other) forces of evil?
If so, what would be the consensus view on making such an effort?

Asking for a friend.

Shatterface wrote:

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:

Oglebart wrote:The L'Oreal troon is on Channel 4 news, doubling down on the "all white people are racist" statement. She broke down at the end, but the upset is only due to her losing her lucrative modelling contract, I'm sure. Is that too cynical? I'm so tired of this bullshit.

L'Oreal is gonna lose its market share of the 0.15% of the population that is MtF over this.

0.15% of the consumers but 15% of their sales.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1467/235 ... 0c7f56.jpg

MarcusAu wrote:

rayshul wrote:The new generation is way less fucked up than mine (I'm on the cusp of the Millenials, a little younger than RW). We were drugs and fucking yourself up and being just a general pot of filth. The new generation are the ones I see whimpering online (I am in touch with lots of them) about using black memes is the same as blackface and wailing about STEM.

I don't know if it's just because I'm posh but my generation I didn't really know there was an option for me to take that wasn't studying STEM. It wasn't really on the cards unless you were like one of the dumb girls.

It's seems a weight almost impossible to bear for someone to become the living representation of the demographic of their generation. How typical are your attitudes for your cohort - and more importantly how many of them made as much of a success of it as you? Because you seem somewhat atypical in at least some respects.

And on another note - it's a double 'n' in Millennium (and the derivative) as anyone who lived though that damn Y2K bollocks should know.

Sunder wrote:If you want to get anal women don't "produce" ova. They're born with all the (potential) ova they'll ever have and spend adulthood cycling through that stockpile until it's gone.

rayshul wrote:

MarcusAu wrote:

rayshul wrote:The new generation is way less fucked up than mine (I'm on the cusp of the Millenials, a little younger than RW). We were drugs and fucking yourself up and being just a general pot of filth. The new generation are the ones I see whimpering online (I am in touch with lots of them) about using black memes is the same as blackface and wailing about STEM.

I don't know if it's just because I'm posh but my generation I didn't really know there was an option for me to take that wasn't studying STEM. It wasn't really on the cards unless you were like one of the dumb girls.

It's seems a weight almost impossible to bear for someone to become the living representation of the demographic of their generation. How typical are your attitudes for your cohort - and more importantly how many of them made as much of a success of it as you? Because you seem somewhat atypical in at least some respects.

And on another note - it's a double 'n' in Millennium (and the derivative) as anyone who lived though that damn Y2K bollocks should know.

Of the girls I know from high school, those who haven't had kids are full fucking looney and that includes the posh ones. It's a pretty straight divide. Of the others, they seem lefty but not total nutters. Oddly the children line and sometimes the long-term-relationship-line is something that separates the mentals from the rest. That said there are exceptions.

The men are probably similar but not as out spoken about it. That said, I don't hang out with creepers and it's creeper type of guys who wind up in the wah wah feminism land.

I have a lot of friends who lean libertarian and don't give a shit about this kind of garbage. All black people/asian people/indians etc roll conservative and non crazy. That said, that's probably an educational/class thing - I know working class white people but no poor brown people.

pfffff I can't spell.

Shatterface wrote:

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:

Oglebart wrote:The L'Oreal troon is on Channel 4 news, doubling down on the "all white people are racist" statement. She broke down at the end, but the upset is only due to her losing her lucrative modelling contract, I'm sure. Is that too cynical? I'm so tired of this bullshit.

L'Oreal is gonna lose its market share of the 0.15% of the population that is MtF over this.

0.15% of the consumers but 15% of their sales.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1467/235 ... 0c7f56.jpg

Sunder wrote:Jerry's got some scuffles occurring in a post about Hurricane Harvey.

Short version: Some people hear Texas and think "redneck conservatives, of course, serves you right." Others point out Houston is a liberal city in a blue county which thrice-elected an openly lesbian mayor. People are even pushing back against Jerry by pointing out that there's perfectly valid logistical reasons to decline certain types of aid right now, and that while prayers may not do anything, just sending money is the best option.

Brive1987 wrote:'Hypothetical' trolley car question.

Is anybody able to produce data calculated to assist Carrier destroy the (other) forces of evil?
If so, what would be the consensus view on making such an effort?

PM for privacy, IUL.

I'm erring on "let the chud-man swing". But then I see the crowd of FtBers:

And in the middle of them, with filthy body, matted hair, and unwiped nose, Avicenna wept for the end of innocence, the darkness of mans heart, and the fall through the air of the true, wise friend called Carrier.

Asking for a friend.

Sunder wrote:

Brive1987 wrote:'Hypothetical' trolley car question.

Is anybody able to produce data calculated to assist Carrier destroy the (other) forces of evil?
If so, what would be the consensus view on making such an effort?

PM for privacy, IUL.

I'm erring on "let the chud-man swing". But then I see the crowd of FtBers:

And in the middle of them, with filthy body, matted hair, and unwiped nose, Avicenna wept for the end of innocence, the darkness of mans heart, and the fall through the air of the true, wise friend called Carrier.

Asking for a friend.

I'd much rather see Carrier win and take down half a dozen other, even worse baboons than simply crumble himself.

Shit, just imagine Peez losing and then he or the horde blaming his lawyer for being a badthink person.

rayshul wrote:http://www.themideastbeast.com/introduc ... confusion/

rayshul wrote:
Of the girls I know from high school, those who haven't had kids are full fucking looney and that includes the posh ones. It's a pretty straight divide. Of the others, they seem lefty but not total nutters. Oddly the children line and sometimes the long-term-relationship-line is something that separates the mentals from the rest. That said there are exceptions.

...

rayshul wrote:That's odd.

Brive1987 wrote:We are all going to die.

Far sooner than expected.

:bjarte:

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MarcusAu wrote:I'm wondering if after the all female 'Lord of the Flies' has been done - if they could do a remake of 'The Bad Seed' with a female cast in the title role.

It would be nice to have an update of 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane' too.

Oglebart wrote:

MarcusAu wrote:I'm wondering if after the all female 'Lord of the Flies' has been done - if they could do a remake of 'The Bad Seed' with a female cast in the title role.

It would be nice to have an update of 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane' too.

I heard a quip about the female Lord of the Flies that suggested that instead of the others killing Piggy, they would mock her about her weight until she committed suicide :lol:

Service Dog wrote:Sinister:

A few years ago, A Voice For Men & other MRA sites reported a list of supposed forms of domestic abuse (used in Australia, if I recall correctly) which included "using logic" in arguments-- as abusive. (logic is a patriarchal social construct which prioritizes toxic male ways of thinking over superior/oppressed ways, such as Feelz and screeching.)

Yesterday, I tried to google the logic=abuse thing... to know the accurate details.... but was presented with a page of results denouncing the legitimacy of the men's rights movement.

Google is cancer.

MarcusAu wrote:I'm wondering if after the all female 'Lord of the Flies' has been done - if they could do a remake of 'The Bad Seed' with a female cast in the title role.

It would be nice to have an update of 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane' too.

screwtape wrote:

MarcusAu wrote:I'm wondering if after the all female 'Lord of the Flies' has been done - if they could do a remake of 'The Bad Seed' with a female cast in the title role.

It would be nice to have an update of 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane' too.

True equality can only be achieved with an all-female version of The Bridge Over The River Kwai, with Chelsea Manning as Alec Guinness.

screwtape wrote:

MarcusAu wrote:I'm wondering if after the all female 'Lord of the Flies' has been done - if they could do a remake of 'The Bad Seed' with a female cast in the title role.

It would be nice to have an update of 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane' too.

True equality can only be achieved with an all-female version of The Bridge Over The River Kwai, with Chelsea Manning as Alec Guinness.

Brive1987 wrote:

screwtape wrote: True equality can only be achieved with an all-female version of The Bridge Over The River Kwai, with Chelsea Manning as Alec Guinness.

All that whistling could be quite triggering.

shoutinghorse wrote:Hide all the kitchen knives before you go to bed tonight Chris :?

mike150160 wrote:It's very quiet?