Looks like these Alpha Bitch stories are going to be a daily thing. Her friends truly enjoy being bullshitted.
That is seriously funny. :lol: :lol: :lol:KiwiInOz wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:29 pmWomen are fighting back against the transwomen, but it's still about men.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/95ee ... 39f3c4b43eTory MP faces ‘sinister’ inquiry
The parliamentary commissioner for standards has launched an investigation into a Tory MP after he held an event with feminists who are opposed to planned transgender legislation.
David Davies, MP for Monmouth, called the inquiry “sinister” and “unbelievable” and said parliamentary rules were being “abused” by transgender activists to deny freedom of speech.
Members of the We Need To Talk group say potential legal changes allowing people born male to “self-identify” as women will threaten biological women’s spaces and rights.
Their meeting took place in parliament on March 14. Davies agreed to host them when Millwall football club, the original venue, cancelled after pressure from transgender lobbyists.
“This was a meeting with women who’ve got perfectly legitimate concerns about legislation the government has said it’s bringing forward,” Davies said.
“Of course they’ve got a right to discuss it in the legislature. There is an important principle of freedom of speech here.”
Ooh, I like this one!
A second story is tacked onto the end of the post:Row over female-only compartments being used by transgender people on Caledonian sleeper service pits Churchill's grandson against Mumsnet
A furious row over the right of men who identify as women to use female-only train compartments has pitted Sir Winston Churchill’s grandson against the might of Mumsnet.
The dispute erupted after the operator of the Caledonian Sleeper, which runs overnight between London and Scotland, said that passengers who were born male but ‘self-identify’ as female could sleep in cabins reserved for women.
The move caused uproar on the Mumsnet internet forum, where users complained that their safety could be endangered.
An attempt to defuse the row by Rupert Soames, the chief executive of Serco – which took over the running of the sleeper service three years ago – led to claims that he had been ‘patronising’.
Mr Soames, whose grandfather was the great wartime Prime Minister, was reduced to pleading that the cabins had emergency buttons.
It is the latest controversy over transgender rights and follows the decision by a female-only swimming pond on Hampstead Heath, North London, to welcome men ‘transitioning’ to women.
Proposals to make it easier for people to change gender also prompted two feminists to protest by attending a men-only swimming session at a leisure centre in South London.
The sleeper service row began after a Mumsnet user posted Serco’s response to an enquiry about whether women could be forced to share cabins with men who define themselves as female.
It said: ‘Guests travel with the Caledonian Sleeper in shared accommodation for men-only or women-only; the service is provided on the basis of the gender that the individual self-identifies with.’
The Mumsnet user wrote: ‘I don’t think I’d feel comfortable with this at all and it’s yet another example of women’s spaces being erased.’
Mr Soames responded on Twitter, writing: ‘I think you are referring to the possibility that people may say that they are a woman when in fact they are a man – sigh.’
He said his passengers would not do that, because they were not ‘deceitful’.
A user called Helen Wheels then asked: ‘You know them all personally? Otherwise, that’s a statement for which you have zero evidence. You might as well say, “No rapist has ever travelled on a train.” ’
A group called the Caithness Purported Feminists told Mr Soames: ‘We do not share the same faith you do in male train passengers.’
And another Twitter user wrote: ‘Many predatory men have identified as women to gain access to female spaces. I suggest you educate yourself properly before dismissing valid concerns with a patronising “sigh”.’
Mr Soames tweeted that his staff were ‘v attentive and watchful; all cabins have call buttons; if a single woman was uncomfortable with the other person they would be moved to another cabin’.
The Caledonian, one of only two railway sleeper services left in the UK, shuttles between the capital and stations in Scotland including Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen.
Serco took over the franchise from ScotRail. A £150 million revamp in October will introduce en suite cabins and double beds.
A Serco spokesman said: 'Everyone is greeted personally and shown to their cabin on the Caledonian Sleeper by our excellent and highly attentive staff.
‘Anyone travelling can choose to book a cabin alone and the option to share with another person of the same sex is being phased out in autumn with the arrival of the new carriages.'
Mr Soames, whose eldest brother Nicholas is a Tory MP, is the son of the late Sir Christopher Soames, an ambassador to France; his mother, Mary, the youngest of Sir Winston’s five children, died in 2014
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... msnet.htmlJeremy Corbyn was embroiled in a fresh row last night after a prominent supporter called for violence against women.
Sophia Botha, a transsexual man who identifies as a woman, shockingly claimed it was justified to ‘thump’ Terfs – a derogatory term for feminists who do not recognise transsexual women as genuinely female.
Ms Botha said hitting Terfs – it stands for Trans-exclusionary radical feminist – was a form of ‘self-defence’.
On an internet blog titled ‘Is it ever justified to thump Terfs?’ she said: ‘Considering Terfs want to exterminate all trans women from the planet any violence directed at Terfs by trans women or trans allies is very much a means of self-defence.’
Ms Botha, a former member of the national executive of LGBT Labour, says she is ‘steadfastly a party supporter’ so long as Mr Corbyn is leader.
Her comments come amid an increasingly bitter Labour split between feminists and transgender activists.
Mr Corbyn is said to be paralysed with indecision on the issue – torn between traditional feminists and a fear of offending the transgender movement.
Labour’s National Executive has delayed a decision on whether to include trans women on all-women parliamentary shortlists. The party declined to comment on Ms Botha’s blog.
Ha! :clap:
Something I just thought about: all these claims about violence against "Nazis" or "TERFs" being justified as "self-defence" are basically identical to George W. Bush's rationale for invading Iraq.Shatterface wrote: ↑ <snip>Jeremy Corbyn was embroiled in a fresh row last night after a prominent supporter called for violence against women.
Sophia Botha, a transsexual man who identifies as a woman, shockingly claimed it was justified to ‘thump’ Terfs – a derogatory term for feminists who do not recognise transsexual women as genuinely female.
Ms Botha said hitting Terfs – it stands for Trans-exclusionary radical feminist – was a form of ‘self-defence’.
On an internet blog titled ‘Is it ever justified to thump Terfs?’ she said: ‘Considering Terfs want to exterminate all trans women from the planet any violence directed at Terfs by trans women or trans allies is very much a means of self-defence.’
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Us tributes from the agrarian & mining Districts are constantly amazed by the vita circenses you citizens of the Capitol lead.Service Dog wrote: ↑ Last night I worked security at a rave. Everyone laughs when I call it a rave, but it was an expensive-ticket, 4500+ guest, mdma-soaked party in a secret warehouse location, with electronic dance music played by obscure/celebrity eurotrash djs, with Berlin-wannabee art installations. What-else do you call that? A complete shitshow, for one thing. It was Not Fun. Yet, I see no complaints on social media. The wanker attendees would rather claim they went to an amazing party, than admit it was like being packed slaveship-tight in an unlit concentration camp, while jackhammers deafen you, & a synthetic fragrance fails to diguise human stench, with an electronic chip wristband connected to your credit card-- to pre-pay for drinks-- but then no way to reach the actual bar to actually drink anything. The rich millennial brats behind the party also produced the infamous Fyre Festival in Costa Rica, so... what do ya expect?
Coat-check was in a separate warehouse, with a chicago-stockyard maze of barricades to reach the main warehouse. So attendees were stripped down to scanty party-clothes, then left in the cold. I split before it was over, so I avoided seeing the reverse process: 4000 wasted attendees simlutaneously stampeding to get their coats, while puking & arguing & freezing & losing their claim-ticket.
Last week was the big New York International Auto Show, at the convention center. I worked one day, in a party-rental space, a nightclub-style party for the launch of a new car-model. The "Lexus Ux" Or LexuSUX, if the typography isn't real good. The car is indeed reminiscent of the 6000 S.U.X. from Robocop.
The car party started-out bland & corporate-convention-ish, but they hired a veteran hipster DJ from the old East Village art-hipster days, & a young artist to paint a cityscape mural, & they partnered with a children's pediatric cancer ward-- for charitible donation-- and a bunch of black people in fake fur showed-up to liven the party & take selfies with the car... so there was a glimmer of bygone nightlife glory, in the now-tame Meat Packing District. I made $600 for a day of lackey-work... I can't complain about that.
Next week, I've got a few days with a fancy fashion label-- big & flashy, on a par with Versace. It should be grueling-but-memorable. A major, decrepit, gay-icon diva is being wheeled-in to perform & lavish money is being-spent.
Us tributes from the agrarian & mining Districts are constantly amazed by the vita circenses you citizens of the Capitol lead.Service Dog wrote: ↑ Last night I worked security at a rave. Everyone laughs when I call it a rave, but it was an expensive-ticket, 4500+ guest, mdma-soaked party in a secret warehouse location, with electronic dance music played by obscure/celebrity eurotrash djs, with Berlin-wannabee art installations. What-else do you call that? A complete shitshow, for one thing. It was Not Fun. Yet, I see no complaints on social media. The wanker attendees would rather claim they went to an amazing party, than admit it was like being packed slaveship-tight in an unlit concentration camp, while jackhammers deafen you, & a synthetic fragrance fails to diguise human stench, with an electronic chip wristband connected to your credit card-- to pre-pay for drinks-- but then no way to reach the actual bar to actually drink anything. The rich millennial brats behind the party also produced the infamous Fyre Festival in Costa Rica, so... what do ya expect?
Coat-check was in a separate warehouse, with a chicago-stockyard maze of barricades to reach the main warehouse. So attendees were stripped down to scanty party-clothes, then left in the cold. I split before it was over, so I avoided seeing the reverse process: 4000 wasted attendees simlutaneously stampeding to get their coats, while puking & arguing & freezing & losing their claim-ticket.
Last week was the big New York International Auto Show, at the convention center. I worked one day, in a party-rental space, a nightclub-style party for the launch of a new car-model. The "Lexus Ux" Or LexuSUX, if the typography isn't real good. The car is indeed reminiscent of the 6000 S.U.X. from Robocop.
The car party started-out bland & corporate-convention-ish, but they hired a veteran hipster DJ from the old East Village art-hipster days, & a young artist to paint a cityscape mural, & they partnered with a children's pediatric cancer ward-- for charitible donation-- and a bunch of black people in fake fur showed-up to liven the party & take selfies with the car... so there was a glimmer of bygone nightlife glory, in the now-tame Meat Packing District. I made $600 for a day of lackey-work... I can't complain about that.
Next week, I've got a few days with a fancy fashion label-- big & flashy, on a par with Versace. It should be grueling-but-memorable. A major, decrepit, gay-icon diva is being wheeled-in to perform & lavish money is being-spent.
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I've never once heard a 'terf' call for trannycide. Ever. Even the Ines who would happily throw every other man in the ovens.Kirbmarc wrote: ↑Something I just thought about: all these claims about violence against "Nazis" or "TERFs" being justified as "self-defence" are basically identical to George W. Bush's rationale for invading Iraq.
Basically anyone who chided Bush for not following international law and attacking Iraq, but then is justifying not following the laws and attacking "Nazis" or "TERFs", is a massive hypocrite.
It's a quest for attention -- and for compulsory participation in their paraphilia. Cuz the rad trans activists are all a bunch of preening, NPD, autogynephilic freaks.
Just to refuse to acknowledge that they are 'women' full stop in every sense of the word is to erase their existence, ergo to exterminate all trans women.Shatterface wrote: ↑ I've never once heard a 'terf' call for trannycide. Ever. Even the Ines who would happily throw every other man in the ovens.
Yes most were either murdered by partners or were prostitutes murdered by johns or pimps.I've seen a few transmurders attributed to terf ideology but as soon as you look into it it turns out the transwoman was murdered by an acquaintance or a partner. It's more likely gay panic: 'woke' partner can no longer maintain the delusion his partner is a woman and lashes out.
Forgive the kiwi farms-ism but the term they use is "ratking", especially when said group is focused around one exceptionally bad person e.g. Brianna Wu.
I don't think the term is
Okay Dog.... when you gonna write that book?Service Dog wrote: ↑Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:52 amLast night I worked security at a rave. Everyone laughs when I call it a rave, but it was an expensive-ticket, 4500+ guest, mdma-soaked party in a secret warehouse location, with electronic dance music played by obscure/celebrity eurotrash djs, with Berlin-wannabee art installations. What-else do you call that? A complete shitshow, for one thing. It was Not Fun. Yet, I see no complaints on social media. The wanker attendees would rather claim they went to an amazing party, than admit it was like being packed slaveship-tight in an unlit concentration camp, while jackhammers deafen you, & a synthetic fragrance fails to diguise human stench, with an electronic chip wristband connected to your credit card-- to pre-pay for drinks-- but then no way to reach the actual bar to actually drink anything. The rich millennial brats behind the party also produced the infamous Fyre Festival in Costa Rica, so... what do ya expect?
Coat-check was in a separate warehouse, with a chicago-stockyard maze of barricades to reach the main warehouse. So attendees were stripped down to scanty party-clothes, then left in the cold. I split before it was over, so I avoided seeing the reverse process: 4000 wasted attendees simlutaneously stampeding to get their coats, while puking & arguing & freezing & losing their claim-ticket.
Last week was the big New York International Auto Show, at the convention center. I worked one day, in a party-rental space, a nightclub-style party for the launch of a new car-model. The "Lexus Ux" Or LexuSUX, if the typography isn't real good. The car is indeed reminiscent of the 6000 S.U.X. from Robocop.
The car party started-out bland & corporate-convention-ish, but they hired a veteran hipster DJ from the old East Village art-hipster days, & a young artist to paint a cityscape mural, & they partnered with a children's pediatric cancer ward-- for charitible donation-- and a bunch of black people in fake fur showed-up to liven the party & take selfies with the car... so there was a glimmer of bygone nightlife glory, in the now-tame Meat Packing District. I made $600 for a day of lackey-work... I can't complain about that.
Next week, I've got a few days with a fancy fashion label-- big & flashy, on a par with Versace. It should be grueling-but-memorable. A major, decrepit, gay-icon diva is being wheeled-in to perform & lavish money is being-spent.
Surely, a surprise of trannies.
shoutinghorse wrote: ↑ Happy 100th B'Day RAF :flags-wavegreatbritain:
"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few"
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Woof it!Bhurzum wrote: ↑Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:20 pmWorth it!ERV wrote: ↑ Update:
It was #3. Spleen is fuuuuucked up. BUT specialist today saw him-- a malignant spleen cancer this big probably would haved metastasized by now. She couldn't find any other lesions, including is heart or lungs, where this cancer likes to spread. Outside of the bacterial infection and a massive spleen, he's totally healthy. Which means it could be benign. Which means surgery will solve this problem. Which means Im going to be eating beans and rice for the next few years to pay for this, but I don't care.
Monday night I had no hope. I'd accepted it.
Now I have some hope.
But then again...clownshoe wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:44 amnow I've been banned from Facebook and permanently suspended on Twitter for calling the person who told me to kill myself a "Cunt" (thanks trust and safety). I guess I'll have to return to the only place online I've ever felt safe. The Slymepit is my safe space. Hell is home.
Wow, superninja'd!shoutinghorse wrote: ↑ A gape of Trannies?
This says it all really, it's a far cry from a Spiral Tribe or D.I.Y site rave out in the woods somewhere in the 90's.Service Dog wrote: ↑ Last night I worked security at a rave. Everyone laughs when I call it a rave, but it was an expensive-ticket, 4500+ guest, mdma-soaked party in a secret warehouse location, with electronic dance music played by obscure/celebrity eurotrash djs, with Berlin-wannabee art installations. What-else do you call that? A complete shitshow, for one thing. It was Not Fun. Yet, I see no complaints on social media. The wanker attendees would rather claim they went to an amazing party, than admit it was like being packed slaveship-tight in an unlit concentration camp, while jackhammers deafen you, & a synthetic fragrance fails to diguise human stench, with an electronic chip wristband connected to your credit card-- to pre-pay for drinks-- but then no way to reach the actual bar to actually drink anything. The rich millennial brats behind the party also produced the infamous Fyre Festival in Costa Rica, so... what do ya expect?
Is Werleman one of these people who big up cultural differences between races to the extent that you are not even allowed to copy another race's culture because of 'cultural appropriation'?
Just like the prophecy in the Bible, perfectly accurate in predicting things after they happened. :PKirbmarc wrote: ↑ There's a huge circle-jerk in the Regressive side of Twitter which is now angry at Harris and calling him a Nazi because he dared to suggest that there might be a genetic component to differences in IQ. Sacha Saeen, Werleman, Dan Arel, Johnny Spooner, it's a veritable Who's Who of the islam apologists. I expect Myers to weigh in on this argument soon enough, naturally shitting on Harris like he's always done.
free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑Just like the prophecy in the Bible, perfectly accurate in predicting things after they happened. :PKirbmarc wrote: ↑ There's a huge circle-jerk in the Regressive side of Twitter which is now angry at Harris and calling him a Nazi because he dared to suggest that there might be a genetic component to differences in IQ. Sacha Saeen, Werleman, Dan Arel, Johnny Spooner, it's a veritable Who's Who of the islam apologists. I expect Myers to weigh in on this argument soon enough, naturally shitting on Harris like he's always done.
http://archive.is/hJspn
In this paragraph Myers now not simply arguing that environmental effects have a bigger impact than genetics on intelligence differences between individuals, which is a reasonable position to have even if one admits that there is a genetic component. He's also not just arguing that average differences in IQ between social groups are more to environmental than to genetic causes, which is still a reasonable position to have, and actually not the same thing as the previous claim, since there could easily be groups distributions where differences in average IQ between groups are due more to environmental causes even if genetic factors cause a larger parts of the differences between individuals.PZ Myers wrote:As for intelligence, the entire point of the human brain is plasticity and sensitivity to experience and novelty. There is no such thing as high intelligence — but there is such a thing as high adaptability. Since intelligence is actually a response to the environment, it’s disappointing and absurd that there are actually scientists arguing for some mysterious hard-wiring of the brain for some difficult to describe ability like “performance on IQ tests”. Don’t they realize that that’s the antithesis of what human intelligence is?
Its entirely reasonable and predictable when you think about it. We have a person here with mediocre intelligence who badly wants to be a genius. If PZ can't live with the fact that he isn't a genius he can at least deny the existence of genius. That leads to the conclusion that the reason he isn't a regarded as a genius must be some reason other than his intellectual prowess, which probably feels better on his ego. Bonus points if he can argue that the reason is that evil shitlords hate him for his morally virtuous social justice beliefs.Kirbmarc wrote: ↑free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑Just like the prophecy in the Bible, perfectly accurate in predicting things after they happened. :PKirbmarc wrote: ↑ There's a huge circle-jerk in the Regressive side of Twitter which is now angry at Harris and calling him a Nazi because he dared to suggest that there might be a genetic component to differences in IQ. Sacha Saeen, Werleman, Dan Arel, Johnny Spooner, it's a veritable Who's Who of the islam apologists. I expect Myers to weigh in on this argument soon enough, naturally shitting on Harris like he's always done.
http://archive.is/hJspnIn this paragraph Myers now not simply arguing that environmental effects have a bigger impact than genetics on intelligence differences between individuals, which is a reasonable position to have even if one admits that there is a genetic component. He's also not just arguing that average differences in IQ between social groups are more to environmental than to genetic causes, which is still a reasonable position to have, and actually not the same thing as the previous claim, since there could easily be groups distributions where differences in average IQ between groups are due more to environmental causes even if genetic factors cause a larger parts of the differences between individuals.PZ Myers wrote:As for intelligence, the entire point of the human brain is plasticity and sensitivity to experience and novelty. There is no such thing as high intelligence — but there is such a thing as high adaptability. Since intelligence is actually a response to the environment, it’s disappointing and absurd that there are actually scientists arguing for some mysterious hard-wiring of the brain for some difficult to describe ability like “performance on IQ tests”. Don’t they realize that that’s the antithesis of what human intelligence is?
No, he's straight out denying the existence of intelligence differences as measured by IQ tests. :bjarte:
That's actually ableist, if you think about it, because it's erasing the fact that there some people with cognitive issues who score very low on those tests. Is Myers saying that those people are simply "not adaptable" enough? Is he denying that they're cognitively challenged? Is he basically saying that they should just apply themselves more, and be more "plastic"? I didn't know that Peeze was such a bigot as to imply that people with cognitive issues should just be exposed to better stimuli and then they'd be be fine.
But maybe I'm misreading Peezie. Maybe he wants to say that cognitive issues are just a social construct, and so it's not true that some people require assistance in some tasks, it's just our phallo-centric colonial white supremacist society that makes it so, in reality there's no difference between Einstein and Forrest Gump, it's just that we classify one as a genius and the other as someone with special cognitive needs because we're being brainwashed by our own bigotry.
Jesus, I was organizing bookmarks and thought "damn, I haven't been here in years.' And after reading a few pages, I'm so glad I've long since given up on the whole Atheist/Skeptic movement. It's overly populated with complete fucking idiots and PZ Myers is their Emperor.Kirbmarc wrote: ↑free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑Just like the prophecy in the Bible, perfectly accurate in predicting things after they happened. :PKirbmarc wrote: ↑ There's a huge circle-jerk in the Regressive side of Twitter which is now angry at Harris and calling him a Nazi because he dared to suggest that there might be a genetic component to differences in IQ. Sacha Saeen, Werleman, Dan Arel, Johnny Spooner, it's a veritable Who's Who of the islam apologists. I expect Myers to weigh in on this argument soon enough, naturally shitting on Harris like he's always done.
http://archive.is/hJspnIn this paragraph Myers now not simply arguing that environmental effects have a bigger impact than genetics on intelligence differences between individuals, which is a reasonable position to have even if one admits that there is a genetic component. He's also not just arguing that average differences in IQ between social groups are more to environmental than to genetic causes, which is still a reasonable position to have, and actually not the same thing as the previous claim, since there could easily be groups distributions where differences in average IQ between groups are due more to environmental causes even if genetic factors cause a larger parts of the differences between individuals.PZ Myers wrote:As for intelligence, the entire point of the human brain is plasticity and sensitivity to experience and novelty. There is no such thing as high intelligence — but there is such a thing as high adaptability. Since intelligence is actually a response to the environment, it’s disappointing and absurd that there are actually scientists arguing for some mysterious hard-wiring of the brain for some difficult to describe ability like “performance on IQ tests”. Don’t they realize that that’s the antithesis of what human intelligence is?
No, he's straight out denying the existence of intelligence differences as measured by IQ tests. :bjarte:
That's actually ableist, if you think about it, because it's erasing the fact that there some people with cognitive issues who score very low on those tests. Is Myers saying that those people are simply "not adaptable" enough? Is he denying that they're cognitively challenged? Is he basically saying that they should just apply themselves more, and be more "plastic"? I didn't know that Peeze was such a bigot as to imply that people with cognitive issues should just be exposed to better stimuli and then they'd be be fine.
But maybe I'm misreading Peezie. Maybe he wants to say that cognitive issues are just a social construct, and so it's not true that some people require assistance in some tasks, it's just our phallo-centric colonial white supremacist society that makes it so, in reality there's no difference between Einstein and Forrest Gump, it's just that we classify one as a genius and the other as someone with special cognitive needs because we're being brainwashed by our own bigotry.
Shit, you're actually right.Old_ones wrote: ↑Its entirely reasonable and predictable when you think about it. We have a person here with mediocre intelligence who badly wants to be a genius. If PZ can't live with the fact that he isn't a genius he can at least deny the existence of genius. That leads to the conclusion that the reason he isn't a regarded as a genius must be some reason other than his intellectual prowess, which probably feels better on his ego. Bonus points if he can argue that the reason is that evil shitlords hate him for his morally virtuous social justice beliefs.
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It is good to see you back, Tribble. If there is any point to the atheist/skeptic movement right now for me, it's not letting regressive idiots like Myers, Werleman, Watson, etc represent us. Part of the reason i originally joined the pit is a theist friend pointing to Pharangula and saying "So this is the kind of people that are atheists," which was especially galling after the Shermer incident. I guess you could say the movement is dead, but I'm not giving them free reign with the obituary. Or something.Tribble wrote: ↑Jesus, I was organizing bookmarks and thought "damn, I haven't been here in years.' And after reading a few pages, I'm so glad I've long since given up on the whole Atheist/Skeptic movement. It's overly populated with complete fucking idiots and PZ Myers is their Emperor.Kirbmarc wrote: ↑free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑Just like the prophecy in the Bible, perfectly accurate in predicting things after they happened. :PKirbmarc wrote: ↑ There's a huge circle-jerk in the Regressive side of Twitter which is now angry at Harris and calling him a Nazi because he dared to suggest that there might be a genetic component to differences in IQ. Sacha Saeen, Werleman, Dan Arel, Johnny Spooner, it's a veritable Who's Who of the islam apologists. I expect Myers to weigh in on this argument soon enough, naturally shitting on Harris like he's always done.
http://archive.is/hJspnIn this paragraph Myers now not simply arguing that environmental effects have a bigger impact than genetics on intelligence differences between individuals, which is a reasonable position to have even if one admits that there is a genetic component. He's also not just arguing that average differences in IQ between social groups are more to environmental than to genetic causes, which is still a reasonable position to have, and actually not the same thing as the previous claim, since there could easily be groups distributions where differences in average IQ between groups are due more to environmental causes even if genetic factors cause a larger parts of the differences between individuals.PZ Myers wrote:As for intelligence, the entire point of the human brain is plasticity and sensitivity to experience and novelty. There is no such thing as high intelligence — but there is such a thing as high adaptability. Since intelligence is actually a response to the environment, it’s disappointing and absurd that there are actually scientists arguing for some mysterious hard-wiring of the brain for some difficult to describe ability like “performance on IQ tests”. Don’t they realize that that’s the antithesis of what human intelligence is?
No, he's straight out denying the existence of intelligence differences as measured by IQ tests. :bjarte:
That's actually ableist, if you think about it, because it's erasing the fact that there some people with cognitive issues who score very low on those tests. Is Myers saying that those people are simply "not adaptable" enough? Is he denying that they're cognitively challenged? Is he basically saying that they should just apply themselves more, and be more "plastic"? I didn't know that Peeze was such a bigot as to imply that people with cognitive issues should just be exposed to better stimuli and then they'd be be fine.
But maybe I'm misreading Peezie. Maybe he wants to say that cognitive issues are just a social construct, and so it's not true that some people require assistance in some tasks, it's just our phallo-centric colonial white supremacist society that makes it so, in reality there's no difference between Einstein and Forrest Gump, it's just that we classify one as a genius and the other as someone with special cognitive needs because we're being brainwashed by our own bigotry.
As for his anti-science assertion encapsulated above, it is, and has been for a very, very, very, very, very long time, well established that IQ and mental health each have a substantial genetic component and environmental component. To assert one source over the other or the non-existence of one source is pure horseshit.
High IQs run in families (predominantly X chromosome with other factors). Many mental illnesses (schizophrenia and bi-polar for example) run in families. Many physical issues (Huntington's disease) run in families.
And, in the end, your base, from which you'll deviate from environmental factors, is set by genes.
Anyway, back to other things. The Atheist movement was train-wrecked by the SJWs, just like they're train-wreck everything else. And I just, honestly, don't see the point in it.
Is it any wonder when the Metropolitan police puts idiots like Cressida Dick in charge? It's bad enough Khan turning our once great capital into Mogadishu, but course it's all the fault of the internet again.Amohpmyl wrote: ↑ London murder rate overtakes NYC.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936
I know the numbers vary, but if anyone had told me 10-12 years ago that you would see this story, I would have laughed at them. Knife violence is top o' th' heap. Wonder who's doing all the shanking?
