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No one ever mentions the Italian, Norwegian, Dutch, German, Danish and French theft of my lands. Ever! :(Brive1987 wrote: ↑ I guess it’s also intriguing that the Captain would no doubt be neutral or generally supportive of defending tradional cultures (say Japan, Indian, Fiji Islander etc) but it is racism to do the same within a western context.
You do realise the Zulus “stole” their country too?
I could be completely wrong here of course.
:think:
He's no Dr Cornell West, but he's definitely getting there.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ ...
And yes, Dyson, is a huckster preacher fire-hosing sophistry and word salad.
What??
:lol:
Did you get to the part where he offered to sit in Fry's lap? Because, hey, gay man? Fry chuckled politely, but Dyson kept pressing it until Fry told him, "Don't flatter yourself."katamari Damassi wrote: ↑That Dyson guy is like an unholy chimera of Kristi Winters and Al Sharpton.
Ok. Where was it again they sold tickets away from this planet?Shatterface wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:06 amSome lesbian groups now have more men than women in them.
There's a reason it's called 'preaching to the converted.'MarcusAu wrote: ↑He's no Dr Cornell West, but he's definitely getting there.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ ...
And yes, Dyson, is a huckster preacher fire-hosing sophistry and word salad.
Perhaps he's been conditioned by speechifying to approving audiences i.e. either black church congregations, or groups of patronising white liberals. In any case some of the stylistic ticks have become hackneyed - whether his is actually saying something or not.
Did he receive a blow to the head and now thinks it's 1995, and that he's a woman?
The perfect put-down of a person of crudity & meanness from one of civility & grace.
Peterson's a clinical psychologist, so when confronted by such 'bad actors (h/t Fry) he'll at some point start to observe & analyze their behavior. (He did it with Cathy Newman.) That came pretty early in this debate. But check out the glare he shoots at Dyson around the 2:21 mark -- it's a 'I know your game' look.And Reverend Thesaurus got offended, glowering and doing that buffalo/caveman grunt he does when he's displeased.
In a true debate format like the Munk series, it's worth it to expose Dyson's sophistry and thinly-veiled bigotry. Peterson clamped down and held on to Dyson like a tenacious bulldog, but Fry calmly delivered the death of a thousand cuts, saving the coup-de-grace for his final statement.I can't think of single reason why anyone should agree to "debate" an idiot like Dyson.
I was thinking the same thing. I think the answer lies in the collectivist 'statistical' mode of thought popular with the SJW's.
A memory stirs. I see mouse ears.KiwiInOz wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 3:51 pmMy recollection is that at least one person has identified as MTF on the Pit in the past. I can't recall the nym, and don't think that they commented much. They were as welcome as anyone else.Shatterface wrote: ↑ One of the reasons I think if transactivism as an anti woman movement is that we, in the Pit, don't get targeted by them.
We rarely have any transwomen signing up and trolling us or shit like that. Same with Areo Magazine, Quilette or Jerry's blog, which have all published criticisms of trans ideology with little pushback.
I think if we ever organised a meet up there'd be zero trans presence.
But they go apeshit about 'terfs' like Germaine Greer, Julie Burchill, Opie Benson; even forums like Mumsnet. They insist on being accepted into women's sports, girl guides and women's shelters.
Why is the focus always on forcing women to accept them as women, rather than forcing men?
Is it that we are largely immune to the weaponised emotional manipulations of cluster B's?
But isn't potato salad supposed to have mayonnaise in it? Otherwise, they're just plain boiled potatoes. And given that wypipo invented fucking potato salad, how are they screwing it up exactly? I mean, sure, you can use sour cream or something instead of mayo, but given that the original recipe, as brought to the US by European immigrants, apparently used mayo, then they can be no more ruining it than one ruins an Eggs Benedict by using bacon instead of ham.
It makes no sense though. It's like saying wypipo ruined Shakespeare. Now yes, I know there's some debate as to the real identity of the bard. But if nothing else, we can be pretty damn sure he was a honky.piginthecity wrote: ↑ I was thinking the same thing. I think the answer lies in the collectivist 'statistical' mode of thought popular with the SJW's.
Individuals are of no consequence, so an individual's ability to make and enjoy potato salad the way they like it isn't relevant. What matters is that a certain percentage of the potato salads made are made by "Whypypos" and are therefore bad in some way. This means that, statistically, if somebody is eating a potato salad there is a certain probability that the salad is one of the problematic "Whypypo" salads. Therefore the global class of Potato Salad eaters suffers. This group includes many esteemed marginalized folx. Hence oppression.
Bear in mind that the trans (MtoF) narrative involves "feeling like a woman" and that one "felt like a girl" during childhood, and that this claim is central to the whole thing. In order to make sense, the person must therefore know how being a woman, or a girl 'feels' to a high degree of certitude. The suggestion that this feeling may be misleading them, and that they don't know how it 'feels' to be a female, is akin to a muslim wondering if the Quran is actually written by the devil. An axiomatic challenge which could invalidate the whole thing. Therefore their interaction with women on a political level is always going to be deeply uncomfortable because the risk of finding out that women don't actually 'feel' like they are supposed to.Shatterface wrote: ↑ One of the reasons I think if transactivism as an anti woman movement is that we, in the Pit, don't get targeted by them.
We rarely have any transwomen signing up and trolling us or shit like that. Same with Areo Magazine, Quilette or Jerry's blog, which have all published criticisms of trans ideology with little pushback.
I think if we ever organised a meet up there'd be zero trans presence.
But they go apeshit about 'terfs' like Germaine Greer, Julie Burchill, Opie Benson; even forums like Mumsnet. They insist on being accepted into women's sports, girl guides and women's shelters.
Why is the focus always on forcing women to accept them as women, rather than forcing men?
Is it that we are largely immune to the weaponised emotional manipulations of cluster B's?
The funny thing is they change their pronouns and join a lesbian group in the hope of shaming their way to some lesbian pussy only to be met with a bunch of other hairy-arsed men called Doris while the real lesbians are sneaking off elsewhere.feathers wrote: ↑Ok. Where was it again they sold tickets away from this planet?Shatterface wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:06 amSome lesbian groups now have more men than women in them.
That's also essentially the dynamic of "Ladies Nights" at bars.Shatterface wrote: ↑ The funny thing is they change their pronouns and join a lesbian group in the hope of shaming their way to some lesbian pussy only to be met with a bunch of other hairy-arsed men called Doris while the real lesbians are sneaking off elsewhere.
That was such a weird exchange, that at first I thought I misheard "lap" but he meant "left" as in, he wants Fry to join them on the left after a point when Fry had said basically he was awkwardly on the right in this debate. But then Dyson doubled and tripled down even going so far as saying "I see how you've been looking at me"Ape+lust wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:31 amDid you get to the part where he offered to sit in Fry's lap? Because, hey, gay man? Fry chuckled politely, but Dyson kept pressing it until Fry told him, "Don't flatter yourself."katamari Damassi wrote: ↑That Dyson guy is like an unholy chimera of Kristi Winters and Al Sharpton.
And Reverend Thesaurus got offended, glowering and doing that buffalo/caveman grunt he does when he's displeased.
This was close to the time he lectured everyone about why blacks retreat into group identity -- because white people regard them as stereotypes instead of individuals.
I used to get really annoyed with the antics of religious hucksters (like Rabbi Boteach, that fucker was the worst) in the atheism debates, but arguing with them was kind of the point back then. Now, I can't think of single reason why anyone should agree to "debate" an idiot like Dyson.
That's YT's autogenerated transcript, even it thinks Dyson said lap.93:26 munity what's more politically incorrect
93:28 than a black Baptist preacher
93:30 identifying with the first century
93:32 Palestinian Jew and still loving
93:34 atheists what's more politically
93:35 incorrect than a black intellectual
93:37 going on Bill Maher and defending his
93:41 ability to continue to have this show
93:43 despite using the n-word icer believed
93:46 in a politically incorrect version when
93:49 I go as a black Baptist preacher to
93:51 chastise my fellow believers about their
93:53 homophobia that goes over like a brick
93:55 cloud when I come into it arenas like
93:58 this I understand that my back is up
94:00 against the wall but I think come sit
94:02 over here let's say I want to sit on
94:08 your lap well but what I say but what
94:13 I'm saying
94:19 I see I've been looking at this
I think we need Dan Dennet here with his "The concept of an apple is not the same as as an apple".Tigzy wrote: ↑It makes no sense though. It's like saying wypipo ruined Shakespeare. Now yes, I know there's some debate as to the real identity of the bard. But if nothing else, we can be pretty damn sure he was a honky.piginthecity wrote: ↑ I was thinking the same thing. I think the answer lies in the collectivist 'statistical' mode of thought popular with the SJW's.
Individuals are of no consequence, so an individual's ability to make and enjoy potato salad the way they like it isn't relevant. What matters is that a certain percentage of the potato salads made are made by "Whypypos" and are therefore bad in some way. This means that, statistically, if somebody is eating a potato salad there is a certain probability that the salad is one of the problematic "Whypypo" salads. Therefore the global class of Potato Salad eaters suffers. This group includes many esteemed marginalized folx. Hence oppression.
I'm half tempted to see if 'wypipo ruined Shakespeare' is actually a thing, but really, I don't wanna know if the world can be that lame.
This is a user made annotated SNL video explaining the joke:Tigzy wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:53 amWhat??
How is this even a thing? How does it work, exactly? I mean, presuming this cretin makes xir own potato salad, then how can white people ruin it? Do white people emit some sort of radiation which fucks up potato salad whenever they're in the vicinity? This is mental.
I'm pretty sure that the classic potato salad was made with boiled dressing. Making mayonnaise by hand is hard work and very fussy work, and it wasn't the sort of thing that most people who made potato salad had in their skill set.
One of the greatest creations on earth is a bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich. The tomato must be fresh from the garden. Bacon... crispy but not too blackened. Lettuce... crunchy... even use iceberg if you must. On toast. With mayo! Fucking mayo! The best sandwich on earth. Fuck you white haters. Youall do not know how to fucking live... muthafuca!Ape+lust wrote: ↑:lol:
I think it's talking about mayonnaise. Snickering about white people and mayo in the same way you can't with black people and fried chicken is what social justice hipsters do.
The spurg began when you started almost daily posting of clickbait rightwing kooks like Goldy, Southern, and Cernovich. When I tried to point out they put out a lot of dishonest bunk and are giving a lot of misleading info, you ended up redefining a peaceful change in racial population distribution to be correctly defined as genocide. Kind of like when the pomo sociologist crowd redefined gender to fit their bonehead rhetoric.Here is the original spurg.
My post showed harassment by Antifa with a very short ironic comment on their inverse sense of border protection.
But in any case, I would have thought harassment of Goldy would have got a thumbs up? Bit of a win win post. But no.
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Well, whatever. It's a fucking weird statement to make, though. Especially in that it appears to be made in all seriousness. These people, I dunno.piginthecity wrote: ↑ I think we need Dan Dennet here with his "The concept of an apple is not the same as as an apple".
To you and I, potato salad is a food. It comes on plates. You can eat it. I can eat my potato salad, and it doesn't effect me whether or not you eat yours and what recipe you've used.
To the SocJus, potato salad is a concept. It's a social construct. It is associated with other concepts, and it's to do with "ancestors" and so forth. To be a good concept it has to be free of all "Whypype" involvement. But it isn't, it's tainted, and therefore to eat it is to taint yourself by association. Like Haram.
I often use olive oil with garlic and herbs in it as well as feta cheese as a sub for mayo in potato salad. Not that I don't like mayo, I do, but some times I may have a dinner guest like my friend here, Black Brive, and he isn't too fond of it.Tigzy wrote: ↑But isn't potato salad supposed to have mayonnaise in it? Otherwise, they're just plain boiled potatoes. And given that wypipo invented fucking potato salad, how are they screwing it up exactly? I mean, sure, you can use sour cream or something instead of mayo, but given that the original recipe, as brought to the US by European immigrants, apparently used mayo, then they can be no more ruining it than one ruins an Eggs Benedict by using bacon instead of ham.
'Waaah buh wypipo ruin potato salad waaa-' yeah okay shut up mong.
You would be dead, fucking wrong. No culture that lasts is static, period. Infusion of genes, ideas and cultural influence get the ball rolling. We know all about static cultures, they're the ones that die out or get taken over.Brive1987 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 11:07 pmI guess it’s also intriguing that the Captain would no doubt be neutral or generally supportive of defending tradional cultures (say Japan, Indian, Fiji Islander etc) but it is racism to do the same within a western context.
You do realise the Zulus “stole” their country too?
I could be completely wrong here of course.
:think:
https://i.imgur.com/CbOTrmW.jpgShatterface wrote: ↑ I do rice and peas all the time but out of racist spite I cook them separately and eat them with different meals.
German potato salad is undeniably better. Not to mention slightly easier on the waistline.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:56 amI make my great aunt's German potato salad, which has no mayo and, being German, is better engineered. But I don't follow a precise recipe, instead employing Auftragstaktik in response to the ingredients on hand and the fluid situation in the kitchen.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-be ... s-44152479A mayonnaise-hating man has made a mint by complaining about the condiment.
Chris Owen, 39, of High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire, said he makes about £1,000 a year by moaning when mayo is put on his food - and by complaining about poor service.
I think my favorite bit was when Dyson was spouting about Foucault and Derrida, and Fry said something like,"we've all been through our French phase."Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ Fry won the debate all in about 20 seconds. He declared he was against political correctness because it didn't work. His opponents protested, so Fry then asked the Amis 'and how's that worked out for you'?
TKO. Stop the fight.