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Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:43 am
by Ape+lust

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:26 am
by John D
MarcusAu wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
John D wrote: So, my wife and I are taking care of a ball of spines called an African Pygmy Hedgehog, because my daughter is finishing up her job in Marquette MI. The divorce is under way... and she will move in soon. I asked her is she thought it was okay that African Pygmy's sold these Hedgehogs into slavery to us white people.... no answer...
Tie string on its tail, send it down the pipes, then pull back up for a good scouring.
That is not the sort of cleaning that Mrs Tiggy Winkle is generally associated with.
She is also not a rusty porcupine.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:03 am
by Bhurzum
Just because...



:dance:

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:47 am
by Lsuoma
Keating wrote: Pretty good review, book sounds interesting:
https://quillette.com/2018/09/06/the-sy ... diversity/
Reading the book. It's like an intellectual version of the Pit. Very, very good, and very depressing. It's the book Ol' Kirbo needs to read to understand in part why places he said should just work on changing cultural attitudes will turn everywhere into Swiss Heaven is bullshit, and why the UK and other Yurpean countries are so fucked. But he won't.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:00 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Ape+lust wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:59 pm

Bonus from dependably stupid Amanda.

https://i.imgur.com/Gq5l26I.png
Amanda Marcunt is wrong all the time, but a lot of folks were wrong this time. The Left completely missed the real appeal of trump, cuz they've been clueless as to why they drove away the white working class, or that man-hating harridans like Amanda Marcunt are one of the reasons.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:19 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
:clap:

Another classic!

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:43 am
by John D
This is totally unrelated to anything we are usually talking about, but I think it is cool as shit. Some birds have a special protein in their eyes that is thought to be sensitive to certain blue light frequencies. This blue light is caused by the Earth's magnetic field. The theory is that birds can see the Earth's magnetic field because of this protein. It has been known that birds can detect magnetic fields. It is not known precisely how they do it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace ... 21540320e1

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:19 am
by Tigzy
John D wrote: This is totally unrelated to anything we are usually talking about, but I think it is cool as shit. Some birds have a special protein in their eyes that is thought to be sensitive to certain blue light frequencies. This blue light is caused by the Earth's magnetic field. The theory is that birds can see the Earth's magnetic field because of this protein. It has been known that birds can detect magnetic fields. It is not known precisely how they do it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace ... 21540320e1
I reckon quite a few of Dicky Carrier's birds have ended up with a special protein in their eyes too.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:30 am
by shoutinghorse
Fancy getting so snarky that the only thing you're remembered for is brought up again and then getting annoyed that the story of only thing your remembered for is wrongly told.

The mind of the narcissistic fuckwit. :twatson:


Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:45 am
by ConcentratedH2O, OM
shoutinghorse wrote: Fancy getting so snarky that the only thing you're remembered for is brought up again and then getting annoyed that the story of only thing your remembered for is wrongly told.

The mind of the narcissistic fuckwit. :twatson:

https://i.imgur.com/BExilt4.png

And I knew 2+2 before I learned trigonometry.

What's your point, Jenny?

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:05 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Tigzy wrote:
John D wrote: This is totally unrelated to anything we are usually talking about, but I think it is cool as shit. Some birds have a special protein in their eyes that is thought to be sensitive to certain blue light frequencies. This blue light is caused by the Earth's magnetic field. The theory is that birds can see the Earth's magnetic field because of this protein. It has been known that birds can detect magnetic fields. It is not known precisely how they do it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace ... 21540320e1
I reckon quite a few of Dicky Carrier's birds have ended up with a special protein in their eyes too.
BPE

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:53 am
by Stankeye
Keating wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:08 am
KiwiInOz wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:58 pm
Keating is really the Zohan.
I don't get this reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poOZKQwgs0g

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:22 am
by MarcusAu
I think Joe Rogan my have finally run out of people to interview...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xY_D8SMNtE

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:03 am
by Sulman
MarcusAu wrote: I think Joe Rogan my have finally run out of people to interview...

[BBvideo=560,315]https://www.yo
utube.com/watch?v=-xY_D8SMNtE[/BBvideo]
Is it just 2.5hrs of him agreeing with everything he says?

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:45 am
by Ape+lust
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
:clap:

Another classic!
Thank you, Matt :D

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:49 am
by shoutinghorse
Sulman wrote:
MarcusAu wrote: I think Joe Rogan my have finally run out of people to interview...

[BBvideo=560,315]https://www.yo
utube.com/watch?v=-xY_D8SMNtE[/BBvideo]
Is it just 2.5hrs of him agreeing with everything he says?
Funnily enough I've just watched his 3hr 20min chat with Neil deGrasse Tyson where he hardly gets a word in.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:49 am
by Ape+lust
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: https://i.imgur.com/BExilt4.png

And I knew 2+2 before I learned trigonometry.

What's your point, Jenny?
She had the Potato's number as early as TAM8:

https://i.imgur.com/VMnuq2v.png

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:03 am
by Guest_b8931fdb
Ape+lust wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:58 am
shoutinghorse wrote: It's almost as if they deliberately want to alienate half their customer base. Great business model. :clap:

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/statu ... 1033984000
Gawd, what chumps.

Get woke, go broke. Just do it :lol:

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:19 am
by free thoughtpolice

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:29 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Ape+lust wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
:clap:

Another classic!
Thank you, Matt :D
How did you find a photo of May's O-face?

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:41 am
by Phil_Giordana_FCD
Burt Reynolds now. I'll never watch Striptease the same way again.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:52 am
by Ape+lust
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: How did you find a photo of May's O-face?
:lol:

It's harder to find anything else. Clearly, she's multi-blessed.

https://i.imgur.com/gyL8JAk.jpg

Beyond that, she and Merkel were born to be Aardman characters. Che-e-e-e-e-se, Gromit!

https://i.imgur.com/auMQa2Q.jpg

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:53 am
by Matt Cavanaugh

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:54 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Ape+lust wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: How did you find a photo of May's O-face?
:lol:

It's harder to find anything else. Clearly, she's multi-blessed.

https://i.imgur.com/gyL8JAk.jpg
Careful -- you'll make Bhurzum randy.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:20 pm
by CaptainFluffyBunny
HelpingHand wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:11 am
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Spike13 wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:13 pm

Nike are smart.

They are headquartered in Seattle... which is no excuse but does explain a lot.
Headquartered in Beaverton, Oregon, considerably more conservative.
Beaverton being butt up against the affluent west hills of Portland which is in turn butt up against the Portland maximum density SJW and hipster inner core.

Nike itself is strongly trending SJW. Every minority has a very prominently-involved-in-campus-events 'network' group. Diversity and Equality t-shirts, banners and all hands shout outs are ubiquitous. Even login screens on corporate laptops show the oppressed group of the month as much as they show product anymore. Have heard multiple people in hiring positions state they are having problems filling roles because they are pre-filtering out white male candidates before team interviews -- "I want to bring some balance to the team." Have hired a lot of zero technical background women for senior technical roles -- then morph senior technical role job duties to emphasize running meetings and creating presentations while junior technical people are told to get the work done.

Not all is lost. Was one case of mutual complaints to HR. The woke employee complained that a coworker was a nazi. The accused nazi complained that the woke one was telling everyone he was a nazi. The woke one quietly left. There was legitimate shock among those of us who are less than woke and feel secure enough talking softly in corners.
I'm sure Beaverton has some elements from nearby, but when I can't believe it's as far gone woke as Seattle is what I meant. Nor would I blame any corporation's wokeness on mere location, rather a cynical attempt to show they're the good ones and increase sales. Although having a woke labor pool probably doesnt help.

Seattle has become a nearly monolithic cesspool, and I regret buying a house anywhere near it. Technically, I'm closer to Tacoma, but the traffic and idiocy from Seattle is omnipresent.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:27 pm
by InfraRedBucket
Way back in the 80s she was in a short lived indie electronic band called The Christian Apologists.
Whatever became of her musical partner?
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Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:57 pm
by BoxNDox
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:19 am
BoxnDox wrote:
The obvious answer is that he could have resigned his commission in protest and gone to the media with his concerns.

A little thing called the Holocaust put the kibosh on using the "I had to follow orders" line as an excuse.
Dallaire did speak to the media after the killing started as I remember.
That's my recollection as well, and that's exactly the point: Communication to the media only happened after the genocide began in earnest. (Remember that this was the culmination of on ongoing civil war, so there had been plenty of reports of killings previously.)

What I don't recall, and can find no evidence of, is any sort of media reporting that weapons were being stockpiled and attacks were imminent.
My recollection is that reports were coming out fairly early on from the CBC including complaints from Dallaire about UN inaction.

That is not to say that international media didn't drop the ball on the reporting, but I think that it would have been unlikely that Dallaire's resignation and protest would have helped the media get out the story any more quickly or accurately.
The resignation of a top UN commander saying he wasn't getting the support he needed in a war zone? We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.
Dallaire had remained behind and sheltered thousands of potential victims so there was good reason not to pack up and go home. In fact, after the conflict began some countries pulled their troops out of the UN mission which certainly didn't help the situation. I think it is really unfair to fault Dallaire for his efforts, he wasn't the one responsible for the UN and its member countries for screwing up, and even more unfair to compare him to people committing war crimes by following orders. Hopefully Phil will pop by and share his disappoint.
[quote
http://blog.smu.edu/studentadventures/2 ... -genocide/
The Rwandan media's role in the genocide, especially radio broadcasts, is well documented. As for the "greatly lacking" US media, let's just say that's not what I recall, and a quick check shows that Wapo's initial reporting on the killing came in a matter of days, the New York Times and the CSM followed suit not long after, and it was openly referred to as genocide less than a month later.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:14 pm
by Lsuoma
Ape+lust wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:52 am
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: How did you find a photo of May's O-face?
:lol:

It's harder to find anything else. Clearly, she's multi-blessed.

[bimg]https://i.imgur.com/gyL8JAk.jpg[/bimg]

Beyond that, she and Merkel were born to be Aardman characters. Che-e-e-e-e-se, Gromit!

https://i.imgur.com/auMQa2Q.jpg
I'd actually say that Merkin is a living warning about the dangers of superglue.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:34 pm
by free thoughtpolice
BoxNDox: I think we will agree to disagree. Should he have resigned before the killing began? When he was refused permission to raid the government arms depot?
While he was actively trying to protect as many people as possible? While he was still engaged in lobbying for intervention?
Even if you think his resignation and subsequent complaints would have saved more lives you have the benefit of hindsight. He didn't.
Also I think comparing it to "just following orders" as per Germans in the Holocaust is a poor analogy.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:42 pm
by dogen
John D wrote: This is totally unrelated to anything we are usually talking about, but I think it is cool as shit. Some birds have a special protein in their eyes that is thought to be sensitive to certain blue light frequencies. This blue light is caused by the Earth's magnetic field. The theory is that birds can see the Earth's magnetic field because of this protein. It has been known that birds can detect magnetic fields. It is not known precisely how they do it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace ... 21540320e1

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:47 pm
by dogen
Bhurzum wrote: Just because...



:dance:
Fun fact: the singer is the lily-ass-white son of Hayley Mills. Muh kultural appropriation!

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:27 pm
by free thoughtpolice
TheMudbrooker wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:59 pm
KiwiInOz wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Copper sulphate down the drain works.
Not halal for septic tanks, unless used with great care. :geek:
Can you toilet people (or "men" as Ophelia calls them) confirm that copper sulphate is safe and effective? Regular toilet, inside a house, no weird backwoods septic tanks or anything. How much and how often? Will killing the roots in the drain cause leakage where the dead roots were effectively plugging them?
The best advice is to put 1/2 a cup of CuSO4 down the bog "regularly". I guess that means that you go hard with a serious blockage and ease off once the blockage has passed. Leakage should only occur if the roots have cracked or distorted the pipes. The Mudbrooker might have better insights on this aspect.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news (not really, I'm kinda twisted that way) but from what he describes, Brive is well and truly fucked. A cracked clay tile sewer with joints bad enough to admit roots and "mysterious holes" is at the end of its service life and will only get worse from here. Root killers only work after the root has gotten into the pipe and dead or alive, they block the pipe just the same. The cost of maintenance for a few years will soon (if it hasn't already) exceed the cost of replacement and every time you clean out a bad pipe you run a greater and greater risk of collapsing it. As for eliminating the tree responsible, don't bother. Even if compacted when backfilled and allowed to settle for years, trenches are much softer soil than the surrounding virgin ground and roots will run amazing distances down a sewer ditch. The roots causing the problem are as likely to be from a tree across the road as one in your yard. Just to add to the joy, it sounds like the part of the line the municipality is responsible for is in piss poor condition too. All told, the only solution is to tell the youngling she's gotta pay her own way because daddy needs a place to shit, replace the sewer on your side of the property line, document the condition of the city's portion and spend the next few years browbeating them into fixing the problems on their side.
Ain't home ownership grand?
Absolutely agree. I've done patch up where I've had a bad joint connecting my sewer lie to the septic tank and roots found their way in.Because it was near the surface in loose sand and because the roots were sending little trees that identified the culprit I got about 8 years out of a temp fix but have to do it again soon. Killing the roots made it so they were easier to remove after a few years. Having said that it is an easily accessible thing and I plan a total redo my plumbing into a new modern system.
I agree with your assessment of Brive's problems. They bought him at least a temporary fix. If there is uneven settling in those nazi pipes then just dig the fuckers up and replace them with proper pipes.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:25 pm
by free thoughtpolice
Fuck Burt Reynolds! He was a gay canoe salesman.
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Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:41 pm
by Sulman
I'm sure for many of a certain age Smokey & The Bandit was an early feel-good film.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/EziKyNYBBddx6/giphy.gif

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:01 pm
by free thoughtpolice
Probably consumers of gay canoes. :snooty:

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:28 pm
by AndrewV69
I reveal that I am misogynist:


Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:32 pm
by AndrewV69
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:01 pm
Probably consumers of gay canoes. :snooty:
Oh Reilly?


Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:56 pm
by KiwiInOz
Keating wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:08 am
KiwiInOz wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:58 pm
Keating is really the Zohan.
I don't get this reference.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OJl6ATsGFco/T ... /zohan.jpg

He has the biggest ... bush.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:58 pm
by KiwiInOz
Stankeye wrote:
Keating wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:08 am
KiwiInOz wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:58 pm
Keating is really the Zohan.
I don't get this reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poOZKQwgs0g
Yes.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:09 pm
by KiwiInOz
free thoughtpolice wrote: Fuck Burt Reynolds! He was a gay canoe salesman.
burt.PNG
You mean that he was never seen in one of these?

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/20 ... =540%2C540

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:17 pm
by Bhurzum
dogen wrote:
Bhurzum wrote: Just because...



:dance:
Fun fact: the singer is the lily-ass-white son of Hayley Mills. Muh kultural appropriation!
No idea about that, I just like the music. Very different from my usual tastes.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:27 pm
by MarcusAu
One of my favourite Burt Reynolds films was 'Breaking In'.

The trailer doesn't really do it justice - but it's a nice little movie and a change of pace from his usual choice of movies.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:51 pm
by Ape+lust
free thoughtpolice wrote: Probably consumers of gay canoes. :snooty:
Marriage only emboldened them. Now every canoe is gay.


Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:38 am
by Brive1987
My god did that girl double down or what?


Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:47 am
by Guest_00a94281
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:45 am
shoutinghorse wrote: Fancy getting so snarky that the only thing you're remembered for is brought up again and then getting annoyed that the story of only thing your remembered for is wrongly told.

The mind of the narcissistic fuckwit. :twatson:

https://i.imgur.com/BExilt4.png

And I knew 2+2 before I learned trigonometry.

What's your point, Jenny?
Now shes whining about how she doesn’t get invited on JoCos booze and cruise as a free guest.
Maybe less whiny self investment and alcoholism and more do anything else with your life? Maybe they heard how she was regularly paralytic on the first TAM cruise and had to be cleaned up after every night by KittyNH after swilling down the free drinks, or not paying bar tab at Skeptic Oz.
Maybe cheating on the ex who still works with myth busters has led to a subtle distancing by the in crowd who smell a social climbing rat.
Mystery.
Anyone read her speech on Patreon?

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:53 am
by AndrewV69
Brive1987 wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:38 am
My god did that girl double down or what?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

She is a joy to behold! The wind beneath ma wings!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:35 am
by shoutinghorse
So twatter have now permanently suspended Alex Jones. (probably the most predictable act of the century) I don't follow Jones, does anyone know just what he did that was so heinous this time?


Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:50 am
by Brive1987
Where is the Swiss cheese?


Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:54 am
by Brive1987
shoutinghorse wrote: So twatter have now permanently suspended Alex Jones. (probably the most predictable act of the century) I don't follow Jones, does anyone know just what he did that was so heinous this time?

https://twitter..com/TwitterSafety/status/1037804427992686593
See 1:38


Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:17 am
by Keating
KiwiInOz wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:58 pm
Stankeye wrote:
Keating wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:08 am
I don't get this reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poOZKQwgs0g
Yes.
I can see there are gaps in my education.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:18 am
by Phil_Giordana_FCD
If possible, I would like to not see bare-chest Jesus ever again.

Someone buy this guy a t-shirt.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:18 am
by MarcusAu
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: If possible, I would like to not see bare-chest Jesus ever again.

Someone buy this guy a t-shirt.
This is offensive. The guy is an ex-satanist.

I'm not sure that Alex Jones has more than a passing acquaintance with the truth though. And his 'Sandy Hook was faked' position was bound to prove useful for his opponents sooner or latter.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:41 am
by Brive1987
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: If possible, I would like to not see bare-chest Jesus ever again.

Someone buy this guy a t-shirt.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:15 am
by screwtape
Lsuoma wrote:
Keating wrote: Pretty good review, book sounds interesting:
https://quillette.com/2018/09/06/the-sy ... diversity/
Reading the book. It's like an intellectual version of the Pit. Very, very good, and very depressing. It's the book Ol' Kirbo needs to read to understand in part why places he said should just work on changing cultural attitudes will turn everywhere into Swiss Heaven is bullshit, and why the UK and other Yurpean countries are so fucked. But he won't.
A couple of sentences from the review I am finding hard to digest:
Meritocracy may or may not be a good way of managing civilisation, but don’t kid yourself it’s any fairer to reward people born smart than it is to reward men with posh surnames, Pakistani Muslims, women, or immigrants.
Perhaps it comes down to deciding whether you want your society to be as successful as possible (measured in terms of scientific and cultural progress, wealth generation, competing effectively against other societies), or as fair as possible (cradle to grave state support, equality of opportunity for sure, maybe of outcome as well), but they are mutually exclusive. I'd argue the successful society would be in a better position to afford assistance to those in need than one set up by levellers who discover they can only achieve their ends by sabotaging the successful rather than by transforming the unsuccessful. The devil is in the details, and I suppose most of politics is, in theory anyway, about achieving the right compromise. To that extent, I am bemused by the thought that I am in favour of less fairness: as a child of Attlee's welfare state I never thought I'd say that. But the repeated lessons of childhood in that era and those before was that the peurile complaint 'It's not fair!' would always be answered with 'Life isn't fair, get used to it.' When did we begin to believe that life, the universe and everything is fair? Given our varying innate skills and abilities ought not fairness mean only that society exploits all of what we each bring to it for our mutual benefit?

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:26 am
by Lsuoma
AndrewV69 wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:38 am
My god did that girl double down or what?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

She is a joy to behold! The wind beneath ma wings!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Gone...

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:30 am
by screwtape
BTW, the author of the book review above has an interesting history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Dale

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:47 am
by Lsuoma
screwtape wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:30 am
BTW, the author of the book review above has an interesting history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Dale


BTW, the reason Cookie is at the back there is cos he was such a shite singer, he could never hit a note or hold a tune.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:07 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
screwtape wrote:
https://quillette.com/2018/09/06/the-sy ... diversity/

A couple of sentences from the review I am finding hard to digest:
Meritocracy may or may not be a good way of managing civilisation, but don’t kid yourself it’s any fairer to reward people born smart than it is to reward men with posh surnames, Pakistani Muslims, women, or immigrants.
Perhaps it comes down to deciding whether you want your society to be as successful as possible (measured in terms of scientific and cultural progress, wealth generation, competing effectively against other societies), or as fair as possible (cradle to grave state support, equality of opportunity for sure, maybe of outcome as well), but they are mutually exclusive. I'd argue the successful society would be in a better position to afford assistance to those in need than one set up by levellers who discover they can only achieve their ends by sabotaging the successful rather than by transforming the unsuccessful. The devil is in the details, and I suppose most of politics is, in theory anyway, about achieving the right compromise. To that extent, I am bemused by the thought that I am in favour of less fairness: as a child of Attlee's welfare state I never thought I'd say that. But the repeated lessons of childhood in that era and those before was that the peurile complaint 'It's not fair!' would always be answered with 'Life isn't fair, get used to it.' When did we begin to believe that life, the universe and everything is fair? Given our varying innate skills and abilities ought not fairness mean only that society exploits all of what we each bring to it for our mutual benefit?
I was disappointed to read further and discover the reviewer was obviously an economic anarchist/libertarian, citing the nonsense & debunked 'Public Choice Theory' and claiming that the only reason immigration lowers wages is due to government constraints, like workers rights protection, on the labor market. (In a Kirbian wall o' text slurry I shan't bother to quote.) Seems like Dale/Darville/Demjenik is channeling Ayn Rand in a few ways.

But it sounds like the book itself is good.

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:20 am
by BoxNDox
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Burt Reynolds now. I'll never watch Striptease the same way again.
It you haven't already, you should read the book. Striptease the movie is OK, kinda sorta, but the book is funny in a way the movie should be but isn't.

After years of covering Florida crime and corruption for the Miami Herald, nobody does stupidity quite like Carl Hiaasen.

Then again, I liked Sharkey's Machine back in the day, so what do I know?

Re: Fuck off, Jamie!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:36 am
by Lsuoma
I did in fact mean the book was good, not the review.