Naked fat black crippled dykes are hard to find...

[Brive1987]

Redford. :lol: :lol:

[Steersman]

Where were you when Kirb was writing his walls of text up-thread? You’ve always been very selective mandating who gets a say on given topics. :lol:

If the Pit closes, team CFB-FTP-Kirb will get a dedicated chapter labeled “Applied toxicity”.

You continue posting your political stances here, forcing people to answer you here or have this become a maga subreddit. You have been asked by many posters not to, from Matt, Phil, so many others. Have a little courtesy.

Eh, I've never minded having political discussions in the main thread. The main thing that bugs me is how few people are prepared to address the issues honestly.

Yeah, on both accounts. Although, as anthropologist John Hartung put it, "Ways and means are not the issue. The question remains, ways and means to what?" Indeed.

We could probably all do with a refresher of Jonathan Haidt's work. Peterson is also trying to address the underlying problem. The political disagreements come down to differences in our moral axioms.

Speaking of the latter and of some relevance to the previous quote, something hot off the press, an interview by British GQ:



Haven't listened to all of it yet myself, but Peterson is making some credible criticisms [@ about 17:19] of the interviewer's peddling of "The Patriarchy!!11!!" while still accepting the benefits thereof.

[free thoughtpolice]

Steers: What do you make of the Soldiers of Odin Vancouver Island?

[MarcusAu]

Are they part of the Asatru movement?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTmtsybU0lQ

[Steersman]

Steers: What do you make of the Soldiers of Odin Vancouver Island?

LoL. Learn something new every day:

Soldiers of Odin threaten removal of Nanaimo’s tent city

But a camp spokesman says he’s not worried about Sunday after chatting with Soldiers of Odin earlier this week.

“I question the whole post because I’ve spoken with those members and like I said and I haven’t received any harsh words from them,” said Darcy Kory.

“Their whole agenda, they said, was to help us not to hurt us and I believe that to be true.”

Kory says he believes the post is just hype, and the last protest by the Soldiers of Odin actually proved to be positive for those at tent city. ....

Interesting article in Wikipedia too - which I'm sure will warm the cockles of Brive's heart ... ;-)

But in passing, I notice another article on the CHEK news website:

Rachel Notley warns B.C. steelworkers their jobs are at risk without Trans Mountain

Bit of a serious problem that Notley, Horgan, & Trudeau are squabbling like little children over the Trans Mountain pipeline instead of trying to find a workable compromise. I'd bugged my local MLA, in part over their support for transgenderism and their demented VP Morgane Oger, but partly on the pipeline issue. I'd figured that since Horgan, more or less credibly, insisted on protections for the environment, the solution would be to refine the Alberta crude in Alberta or in BC so that oil shipped by boat would be less of a problem in the event of a spill. The MLA responded with a couple article links that indicated that BC at least had broached the issue, although no indication that either Notley or Trudeau were receptive.

Horgan to push refinery investment during Notley, Trudeau meeting

Horgan finds enthusiasm for investing in bitumen refining

[Brive1987]

No analysis attempted. No response required. But.....

Worth watching on the basis of:

+ A reveal of drastically improved agitprop. Know your enemy.
+ Best impression of a sweater girl since Marilyn Monroe was in Korea
+ An explicit promise of a Paris induced redux kirb-ering
+ The unexpected appearance of what may be red hotpants while on tactical patrol. (Probably just jeans)

► Show Spoiler

[free thoughtpolice]

Are they part of the Asatru movement?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTmtsybU0lQ

I'm thinking there could be some connections :ugeek:
For instance, the temple he is in exhibits similar architectural traits to other sacred structures from the movement. The oriented strand board with the 2 by 4 pillars echo the culture's existential dynamic of reaching for the sky, unlike the toxic liberalism that poisons out people.
I suspect the realpolitik of the Asaturu movement has much in common with the Soldiers of Odin.
Mom and Dad are going to kick them out of the woodshed and replace them with a brownskinned migrant that promises to pay rent. :twisted:

[free thoughtpolice]

Steersman wrote:

Bit of a serious problem that Notley, Horgan, & Trudeau are squabbling like little children over the Trans Mountain pipeline instead of trying to find a workable compromise. I'd bugged my local MLA, in part over their support for transgenderism and their demented VP Morgane Oger, but partly on the pipeline issue. I'd figured that since Horgan, more or less credibly, insisted on protections for the environment, the solution would be to refine the Alberta crude in Alberta or in BC so that oil shipped by boat would be less of a problem in the event of a spill. The MLA responded with a couple article links that indicated that BC at least had broached the issue, although no indication that either Notley or Trudeau were rece

We are in agreement with that 100%. The difference in a crude spill, and especially a heavy crude that has solvent added to it is problematic.
I think that 1 good solution would have been to ship it to the port at Kemano and down Douglas Channel, (Northern Gateway) with appropriate tug/pilot boat service as well as cleanup.
And in addition, send it east to replace the oil we are buying from Saudi Arabia. A crime to continue to enrich them instead of using our own abundant resource. :flags-canada:

[Keating]

Haven't listened to all of it yet myself, but Peterson is making some credible criticisms [@ about 17:19] of the interviewer's peddling of "The Patriarchy!!11!!" while still accepting the benefits thereof.

Normally I don't bother with Steersman's "I haven't read/listened to this, but maybe this is relevant" posts, but this does actually have a PZ Myers reference.

At about 47 minutes, the interviewer's first and only reference to a biologist that has criticised Peterson is PZ Myers.

[Service Dog]

Haven't listened to all of it yet myself, but Peterson is making some credible criticisms [@ about 17:19] of the interviewer's peddling of "The Patriarchy!!11!!" while still accepting the benefits thereof.

Normally I don't bother with Steersman's "I haven't read/listened to this, but maybe this is relevant" posts, but this does actually have a PZ Myers reference.

At about 47 minutes, the interviewer's first and only reference to a biologist that has criticised Peterson is PZ Myers.

Haw! I hit pause on the GQ interview & came directly here, the moment I heard her invoke PZ Myers as a marine biologist (attempting to debunk Peterson's references to lobsters.)

The most hilarious part-- is that, minutes earlier, the interviewer had poo-pooed the notion that universities are full of radical anti-evo-psych ideologues. Funny how her go-to marine-biology expert... is also rabidly anti-evo-psych.

[Kirbmarc]

Where were you when Kirb was writing his walls of text up-thread? You’ve always been very selective mandating who gets a say on given topics. :lol:

If the Pit closes, team CFB-FTP-Kirb will get a dedicated chapter labeled “Applied toxicity”.

You continue posting your political stances here, forcing people to answer you here or have this become a maga subreddit. You have been asked by many posters not to, from Matt, Phil, so many others. Have a little courtesy.

You will note I have been active on the specialised silos. But as you are also aware ‘everything is political’. Are you going to police all of our freeze peach? Or just the stuff you disagree with? I note the Overton window and PZ’s descent into a post-liberal mindset is apparently verboten.

A list of CFB approved thread topics may be in order eh wot? Have a chat with FTP + Kirb and maybe table a draft? :mrgreen:

Eh, I'm fine with you posting whatever you want wherever you want it. I actually enjoy replying to your posts and dissecting at length my problems with your positions and ideas. It's a bit hypocritical, though, of you to whine about people being bored with the "national identity" discussion when you also whine about how bored you are about my "walls of text" or "screeds".

I'm for free speech all the way, including free "wall of text" speech. Don't like them? Don't read them. :mrgreen:

[MarcusAu]

Most would agree that are better critics than Myers in regards to Peterson's ideas.

For example, here's Gad Saad's short statement on the topic of Jung (starting of course with the mandatory proviso that it's possible to disagree with someone and still be agreeable with them).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMDD7kkdMLM

[shoutinghorse]

Leading Britain's Conversation .. :lol:

[Kirbmarc]

We could probably all do with a refresher of Jonathan Haidt's work. Peterson is also trying to address the underlying problem. The political disagreements come down to differences in our moral axioms.

Fundamentally, yes.

Conservative people tend to be more interested in Loyalty, Authority and Sanctity, which evolved to bind the group together in face of inter-tribal conflict, while Care and Fairness were traditionally limited to the in-group. In-group morality/out-group hostility is a winning strategy in a context of highly inter-tribal fighting.

However this context has changed, and a lot. We no longer live in independent villages/tribes with little to no communication with the out-group. We have to constantly interact with people from other "tribes". The tribal past is long-gone in the age of long-distance travels, the Internet, megalopolis and international trade. There are issues that affect the entire world (like climate change). We also have weapons that are MUCH more effective than spears and arrows. And lastly we have rates of personal violence that are far lower than in the tribal world.

An ancient tribe could thrive by keeping other tribes at bay and occasionally riding their camps for supply and women. Or they could be swamped by another tribe. The tribes that prospered were the ones that kept infighting to a minimum by being more or less egalitarian for the in-group, while keeping the fights focused on scaring/destroying/exploiting other tribes.

This model doesn't really work today. Trade is a necessity, there are no avenues to prosperity through isolationism and plundering. North Korea is isolationist and an authoritarian, dirt-poor shithole that is kept alive only by nuclear threat, while South Korea, open to trade and to international cooperation, is rich and highly developed, not to mention much more free. North Korea is extremely conservative, with a strong focus on Purity, Loyalty and Authority, but they're the losers of the modern game rather than the winners.

In general people tend to discard Purity standards because of technological advances. In a world with soap, vaccines, condoms, paternity tests, preservatives in food, refrigerators, etc. Purity is no longer as important to survival as it was before. People are more free to fuck around, to eat different kinds of food, to travel around, and the many rituals to praise gods for health have been substituted with modern medicine, which doesn't need prayers. The levels of Purity required in the tribal world are chafing and limiting in the modern world.

The tribal level of focus on Authority has also become counterproductive in the modern world. Authoritarian regimes have way too much chances to exercise power and control at the expense of Care or Fairness these days. Authoritarian regimes are generally poorer, more unequal, more corrupt, more violent, and less developed. The "Big Man" tribal model doesn't really work, and strong central authorities are more likely to be bureaucratic nightmares of inefficiency.

The biggest point of contention about the "identity" debate is differences in the Loyalty foundation. "Identitarians" are very big on Loyalty, and see the idea of universal values as a potential threat, by giving the same rights to potentially disloyal outsiders who might "game" the system for their interests. Non-identitarians see excessive Loyalty as chafing and promoting inter-group conflicts, which in a modern world can have long-lasting consequences and lead to a number of casualties unheard of in the tribal world, not to mention disrupt trade and prosperity.

Of course all of this happens on a spectrum, and the devil is in the details.

[Hunt]

I'm sure this has been shown here before. It's Carrier's version of the court case from a few months back. I post the link direct since I'm not averse to giving him some traffic. If you disagree, well, don't click it:

https://www.richardcarrier.info/fairtrial.html

He's a strange little chap, but I've always respected his intellect(ual artillery). I'm pretty sure, in his weird little way, that he's in the right here, and if he ever makes it to court, he'll at least recoup his expenses. Everything he says about the malevolence, dishonesty, disingenuousness and deceit of Ftb, Zvan, et al, rings entirely true.

As has been stated here before, Carrier's sin was to take SJW ostensible rules seriously and play them to the max. Little did he know, it was all a sham anyway. The goal of SJW puritanism is to cause fear and loathing and to leverage power, if and when it's needed. Out of all of them, I think Zvan probably knows this best. She seems like a truly diabolical woman.

Carrier was really the wrong mark; not because he's some Perry Mason icon of truth and justice, but because he's got the irascibility, and let's face it, grit to take on these scum bags.

Plus he's got nothing better to do.

[Kirbmarc]

I'm sure this has been shown here before. It's Carrier's version of the court case from a few months back. I post the link direct since I'm not averse to giving him some traffic. If you disagree, well, don't click it:

https://www.richardcarrier.info/fairtrial.html

He's a strange little chap, but I've always respected his intellect(ual artillery). I'm pretty sure, in his weird little way, that he's in the right here, and if he ever makes it to court, he'll at least recoup his expenses. Everything he says about the malevolence, dishonesty, disingenuousness and deceit of Ftb, Zvan, et al, rings entirely true.

As has been stated here before, Carrier's sin was to take SJW ostensible rules seriously and play them to the max. Little did he know, it was all a sham anyway. The goal of SJW puritanism is to cause fear and loathing and to leverage power, if and when it's needed. Out of all of them, I think Zvan probably knows this best. She seems like a truly diabolical woman.

Carrier was really the wrong mark; not because he's some Perry Mason icon of truth and justice, but because he's got the irascibility, and let's face it, grit to take on these scum bags.

Plus he's got nothing better to do.

It's the grit that comes from desperation. The FTB excommunication actually hurt his chances of getting money from speeches and conferences. Krauss, Shermer and Silverman have other avenues of income. Krauss and Shermer still have tenure, and Shermer is still publishing articles. Silverman still has a job as a journalist, I think. Carrier is an unemployed and unemployable "professional historian" who made a living bar hopping at conferences and giving paid speeches.

[Kirbmarc]

Plus Carrier is a self-righteous narcissist who can't stand the idea of even being accused of any improper behavior.

[Hunt]

I agree. When they defamed him (if that turns out to be what it was) they took away a big chunk of his world. Reading his summary, I see that he offered them both the option to retract and mitigate, which they refused. So now Frodo is out for blood. Cornered animals are the most dangerous.

[John D]

Haha... Ben and Jerry's. Scott Adams has one thing right for sure. He says it is like the two political groups in America are watching two completely different movies.

[John D]

Haven't listened to all of it yet myself, but Peterson is making some credible criticisms [@ about 17:19] of the interviewer's peddling of "The Patriarchy!!11!!" while still accepting the benefits thereof.

Normally I don't bother with Steersman's "I haven't read/listened to this, but maybe this is relevant" posts, but this does actually have a PZ Myers reference.

At about 47 minutes, the interviewer's first and only reference to a biologist that has criticised Peterson is PZ Myers.

If all women were like this cunt I would be a MGTOW!

[Service Dog]

I'm not on Twitter. I only see tweets when they're reproduced somewhere-else.

So, I've only clicked on Trump's actual twitter feed-- a handful of times.

Today, he twitted a campaign ad-- starting with a cop-killing immigrant laughing/ then showing the migrant caravan/ ending with 'Make America Safe Again'.

Scrolling down... oh my! I hadn't previously realized how-much the anti-Trump tweet replies-- look like the side of the MAGAbomber's van.

Swastikas, mug shots of mass shooters, crude cartoons, 'pussy-grab' feminists, frothing bluster...

[Tigzy]

As has been stated here before, Carrier's sin was to take SJW ostensible rules seriously and play them to the max. Little did he know, it was all a sham anyway. The goal of SJW puritanism is to cause fear and loathing and to leverage power, if and when it's needed. Out of all of them, I think Zvan probably knows this best. She seems like a truly diabolical woman.

Zvan is O'Brien out of Nineteen Eighty-Four. She knows it's a crock of shit and is really only about the exercise of power. And she's quite happy to submit to Prig Mother in order to have a fat slice of that power.

[Tigzy]

Ooh! Latest Tit poem!



I recommend enjoying xher while xhe lasts. Twitter's very likely out for xer blood.

[Service Dog]

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"#MeToo" seems like an odd way to tag that interview, given the many other topics addressed.

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[free thoughtpolice]

Slack jawed mammal nosher?

[John D]

Haven't listened to all of it yet myself, but Peterson is making some credible criticisms [@ about 17:19] of the interviewer's peddling of "The Patriarchy!!11!!" while still accepting the benefits thereof.

Normally I don't bother with Steersman's "I haven't read/listened to this, but maybe this is relevant" posts, but this does actually have a PZ Myers reference.

At about 47 minutes, the interviewer's first and only reference to a biologist that has criticised Peterson is PZ Myers.

If all women were like this cunt I would be a MGTOW!

and she actually said it was okay that Count Dankula got in trouble with the law... while simultaneously saying she supports the free speech of comedians. Wow.... massive cunt.

[MarcusAu]

and she actually said it was okay that Count Dankula got in trouble with the law... while simultaneously saying she supports the free speech of comedians. Wow.... massive cunt.

It probably was inevitable - he's been in trouble with the law...since the day he was born...

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Utter cunt, look at this line from the story:

https://i.imgur.com/nkEhOjx.png

"The city"? So, all about London is it sweetheart? Has she mistakenly sent her copy that she wrote for The Evening Standard to The Guardian's submissions desk?

Typical fucking Guardian.

Make out they care about the whole world, when really their eyes are focused well and truly on London. All others are just savages out in the wilds.

[Service Dog]

If all women were like this cunt I would be a MGTOW!

Two of the feminist NPC clichés she recited-- are things recently debunked, for me, by the Excursions Into Libertarian Thought podcast.

1. She asserts that women changing their surname when they become married-- traditionally signified the 'transfer of property rights' (slave-ownership) of the woman-- from her father to her husband.

Karen Straughan has previously debunked this, by showing how-- under traditional Common Law-- unmarried adult women owned themselves and their own property-- such as land, a home, or money she had herself earned. And, even within marriage, under Common Law, a woman's prior assets going-into the marriage, remained her own property/ was not co-mingled with her husband; to prevent male gold-diggers from exploiting women. While a husband enjoyed no-such protection: his prior assets did become co-owned by his newlywed wife.

But the new thing I learned from the Excursions podcast-- is that the word "property" didn't mean back-then what it means now. If I were to keep a journal of high and low tides-- in the old way of speaking, I could be said to 'have a property' in the tides. Like a precoccupation or, stakeholdership, or an abiding-interest. Under this terminology, every spouse could be said to have a property in their partner. Even a slave could have property in the master-- since the master's business was likely to affect the slave's life.

The shift in usage of the word 'property' makes cut&dried feminist interpretations of history-- as suspicious as the claim that men 'think of women as toilets'.

2. She also asserts that the founding of the United States was based on 'identity politics', as the new nation enshrined the interests of White Male Land-owners, to the exclusion of other people.

Her sleight-of-hand blurs the distinction between Ex-cluding rights & interests from people who were previously In-cluded in a better-deal, under a previous regime-- vs. expanding Inclusivity of rights & best-interest to many more people than before/ but not doing-so broadly-enough to suit her glass-half-empty perspective. Even the three-fifths-of-a-person status of slaves, under the US Constitution, was a three-fifth increase from their previous status at Zero. In fact-- the only place where slaves and women and all the disenfranchised people of the world were *included* under a universal umbrella of natural equality and rights-- is in the utopian philosophical musings of those same old white western males she decries as playing ex-clusive 'identity politics'.

Typical.

[Driftless]

Google walkout. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Will Google put its Money where its mouth is? There is a list of demands, including a way to report sexual misconduct anonymously. Like that would never be abused.

The CEO made a corporate-speak announcement:

"Employees have raised constructive ideas for how we can improve our policies and our processes going forward," he said. "We are taking in all their feedback so we can turn these ideas into action."

Of course they could have given every woman and minority a raise years ago, or promoted a bunch of women and minorities into management years ago, so I'm not sure they'll do anything that involves raises or promotions.

[Steersman]

We could probably all do with a refresher of Jonathan Haidt's work. Peterson is also trying to address the underlying problem. The political disagreements come down to differences in our moral axioms.

Fundamentally, yes.

Conservative people tend to be more interested in Loyalty, Authority and Sanctity, which evolved to bind the group together in face of inter-tribal conflict, while Care and Fairness were traditionally limited to the in-group. In-group morality/out-group hostility is a winning strategy in a context of highly inter-tribal fighting. ....

Fairly credible and in-depth analysis, although, apparently, not quite deep enough, and some looks a bit disingenuous.

Fer instance, don't think it's just the "conservative people" who have a strong interest in "purity" and tests thereof - the #TransLoonies with their "Do you believe trans women are women, yes or no?" being a case in point. And they seem rather clearly a major segment of the Left, or are heavily supported by many on the Left. Although it's somewhat amusing, and somewhat encouraging, to see many old - and new - school "feminists", nominally on the Left, raising the alarums about that demented ideology - y'all might want to check out the #WPUK hashtag, and my tweet thereon, for details:



Although I will concede that such tests are not unique to the Left, but it also seems clear that such tests, in one form or another, are characteristic of virtually all groups - a shibboleth "that distinguishes one group of people (an ingroup) from others (outgroups)". Which is where I think you tend to go off the rails, both there and in similar "epistles": some groups are, or give some evidence of being, simply better than others, and there's more than a little justification for putting people on the spot to find out where their allegiances are - as I did in my "purity test" of Andrew:

<snip>

But to put them on a more solid footing, to call a spade a shovel, do you seriously think that the Quran is entirely the received word of Allah - the big man of the universe - Himself? Do you seriously think there's any more justification for thinking he's the ticket to the promised land - of milk and honey and houris - than for Jehovah or Jesus - or Woden?

<snip>

And even if you don't think that - you seem too clever a guy to believe in that schlock, particularly in the face of the myriad of other religions - do you not think that most Muslims DO believe that, and that that might well be the proximate cause of why Islam is "flatly incompatible with democracy & human rights"?

I rather doubt you seriously think that "all ideas have equal merit", but when push comes to shove, when Islam itself is in the cross-hairs, you - and Andrew both - sure do seem to give some evidence of thinking otherwise:

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[Service Dog]

Ooh! Latest Tit poem!



I recommend enjoying xher while xhe lasts. Twitter's very likely out for xer blood.

Bless-ed be the blooooooood !!
Elephants.
We are you.

[Service Dog]

Our wombs are wounds our wombs are wounds are wounds our wombs?

[BoxNDox]

Jordan Peterson has written a new forward for a new edition of The Gulag Archipelago.

https://quillette.com/2018/11/01/the-gu ... -peterson/

[CommanderTuvok]

The woman who interviewed Petersen is someone called Helen Lewis, who is a bigwig at the New Statesman, whose reputation has not recovered since it appointed Mehdi "cattle" Hasan as editor, before he fucked off to Al Jazzera, and admitted he believes in flying horses in an interview with Dawkins.

Anyway, Lewis is from the Ophelia Benson school of feminism, and is often labelled as a "transphobe" on social media.

All very funny.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Google walkout. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Will Google put its Money where its mouth is? There is a list of demands, including a way to report sexual misconduct anonymously. Like that would never be abused.

The CEO made a corporate-speak announcement:

"Employees have raised constructive ideas for how we can improve our policies and our processes going forward," he said. "We are taking in all their feedback so we can turn these ideas into action."

Of course they could have given every woman and minority a raise years ago, or promoted a bunch of women and minorities into management years ago, so I'm not sure they'll do anything that involves raises or promotions.

My youngest brother works for Google, he assures me that despite the media attention for the crazies, it's a relatively sane place to work. He leans more conservative than I do by far, and has survived there for quite a while, so it can't be that bad. It looks to me like people were trying to tag on to the #MeToo movement for attention and money, trying to leverage social media for what may be simple utilitarian ends. I would guess it's another snipe hunt.

[MarcusAu]

My youngest brother works for Google, he assures me that despite the media attention for the crazies, it's a relatively sane place to work. He leans more conservative than I do by far, and has survived there for quite a while, so it can't be that bad. It looks to me like people were trying to tag on to the #MeToo movement for attention and money, trying to leverage social media for what may be simple utilitarian ends. I would guess it's another snipe hunt.

Does he talk about politics at work though? Or just bite his tongue and not say anything when other people give their opinions?

[free thoughtpolice]

https://www.much.com/shows/south-park/e ... he-scoots/

[DaveDodo007]

Leading Britain's Conversation .. :lol:

Cheering them all on and more whilst wearing a poppy fuck all the lefty/liberal self loathing gimpy, soiboi , cuck, retarted mongs for ever.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

My youngest brother works for Google, he assures me that despite the media attention for the crazies, it's a relatively sane place to work. He leans more conservative than I do by far, and has survived there for quite a while, so it can't be that bad. It looks to me like people were trying to tag on to the #MeToo movement for attention and money, trying to leverage social media for what may be simple utilitarian ends. I would guess it's another snipe hunt.

Does he talk about politics at work though? Or just bite his tongue and not say anything when other people give their opinions?

He mostly bites his tongue, but he's never believed in mixing work and politics. It's definitely left-leaning but you'll notice that the complaints are that management is mostly male and white or Asian. So clearly they're not full SJW just yet. Nor will they be if they want their code to work.

[DaveDodo007]

Jordan Peterson has written a new forward for a new edition of The Gulag Archipelago.

https://quillette.com/2018/11/01/the-gu ... -peterson/

Fuck that rabid individualist bugman consumerist, He is a NPC.

[free thoughtpolice]

Jordan Peterson has written a new forward for a new edition of The Gulag Archipelago.

https://quillette.com/2018/11/01/the-gu ... -peterson/

Fuck that rabid individualist bugman consumerist, He is a NPC.

Amen

[free thoughtpolice]

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

I made a couple of lyres before my good arm got damaged. It's an underrated instrument with a noble history. Gonna try and knock out a couple before Xmas, as my niece has an interest in ancient music. Oddly It's easier to make than to play well.

[AndrewV69]

No end to it apparently :

Rotherham grooming gangs: National Crime Agency investigating more than 420 suspects in 'unprecedented' operation

Mr Javid said that perpetrators convicted in high-profile cases have been “disproportionately from a Pakistani background”, adding: “I have instructed my officials to explore the particular context and characteristics of these types of gangs and if the evidence suggests that there are cultural factors that may be driving this type of offending, then I will take action.”

Somehow, I suspect that the evidence will suggest that these men are victims of the patriarchy who have been inoculated into the CIS, white male rape culture.

No doubt instructions will be issued to bring in the real culprits. Soon, any white males they can lay their hands on will be brought in willy nilly (and preferably by their willy as a sort of pre-sentence punishment).

But I could be wrong. Who knows?

[Steersman]

Jordan Peterson has written a new forward for a new edition of The Gulag Archipelago.

https://quillette.com/2018/11/01/the-gu ... -peterson/

Fuck that rabid individualist bugman consumerist, He is a NPC.

LoL ...

Though, re your "there are two genders" avatar, you might check out a post over at WEIT (Sex in humans may not be binary, but it’s surely bimodal) where Jerry takes Fausto-Sterling to the woodshed for her NYTimes article conflating sex and gender.

Bonus comments by Kirbmarc who narrowly misses agreeing with my "thesis" (The Imperative of Categories) that there are 2 sexes, some people don't have a sex, and that there are "billions and billions" of genders (slow learner that boy, always talking, never listening ... ;-) ):

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[Steersman]

No end to it apparently :

Rotherham grooming gangs: National Crime Agency investigating more than 420 suspects in 'unprecedented' operation


<snip>

No doubt instructions will be issued to bring in the real culprits. Soon, any white males they can lay their hands on will be brought in willy nilly (and preferably by their willy as a sort of pre-sentence punishment).

But I could be wrong. Who knows?

Better late than never I suppose - maybe a sign of the changing times, along with the realization that it's probably more beneficial to go after actual robbers than (horror!) those who have catcalled or shaded off into outright misogyny ...

But while I'm certainly not averse to throwing stones at Muslims ..., I kind of have to wonder where the girl's parents were, why there were, apparently, so many vulnerable girls, and whether at least some of the stories they've told haven't grown somewhat in the telling - certainly rather horrific if they're gospel truth.

[KiwiInOz]

No end to it apparently :

Rotherham grooming gangs: National Crime Agency investigating more than 420 suspects in 'unprecedented' operation

Mr Javid said that perpetrators convicted in high-profile cases have been “disproportionately from a Pakistani background”, adding: “I have instructed my officials to explore the particular context and characteristics of these types of gangs and if the evidence suggests that there are cultural factors that may be driving this type of offending, then I will take action.”

Somehow, I suspect that the evidence will suggest that these men are victims of the patriarchy who have been inoculated into the CIS, white male rape culture.

No doubt instructions will be issued to bring in the real culprits. Soon, any white males they can lay their hands on will be brought in willy nilly (and preferably by their willy as a sort of pre-sentence punishment).

But I could be wrong. Who knows?

Is there some justification in the Koran or Hadith that non-Muslim women are fair game as sex slaves for the true believers? I've heard various statements along the lines that all Western women are whores etc.

[MarcusAu]

I've heard various statements along the lines that all Western women are whores etc.

That's not been my experience. Though maybe it's all just haggling over the price.

[MarcusAu]

LoL ...

Though, re your "there are two genders" avatar, you might check out a post over at WEIT (Sex in humans may not be binary, but it’s surely bimodal) where Jerry takes Fausto-Sterling to the woodshed for her NYTimes article conflating sex and gender.

Bonus comments by Kirbmarc who narrowly misses agreeing with my "thesis" (The Imperative of Categories) that there are 2 sexes, some people don't have a sex, and that there are "billions and billions" of genders (slow learner that boy, always talking, never listening ... ;-) ):


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At this point it's a pretty safe assumption that your point of view on this is known to any of the regulars here.

Rather than become too boringly repetitive on the topic - perhaps your memes could be retired to a side thread - where you could link to them should the need arise.

Just a suggestion...

[KiwiInOz]

I've heard various statements along the lines that all Western women are whores etc.

That's not been my experience. Though maybe it's all just haggling over the price.

[MarcusAu]

My youngest brother works for Google, he assures me that despite the media attention for the crazies, it's a relatively sane place to work. He leans more conservative than I do by far, and has survived there for quite a while, so it can't be that bad. It looks to me like people were trying to tag on to the #MeToo movement for attention and money, trying to leverage social media for what may be simple utilitarian ends. I would guess it's another snipe hunt.

Does he talk about politics at work though? Or just bite his tongue and not say anything when other people give their opinions?

He mostly bites his tongue, but he's never believed in mixing work and politics. It's definitely left-leaning but you'll notice that the complaints are that management is mostly male and white or Asian. So clearly they're not full SJW just yet. Nor will they be if they want their code to work.

Your brother seems a bit of an old-fashioned small 'c' conservative.

[MarcusAu]

<no saxon please, and no lyres either>

How far back do you want to go?

[Brive1987]

Or do you trace the actions of the fake-bomber and the wacko trump hating anti-Semite to broad-based republican calls for civil action?

That would be a new take.

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Every single point below is basic commonsense!!!

Let’s have the Nigerian “university” debate again
Poorly defended borders ....
Mob collectives determined to break the law to enact entry ...
Bans on specific dysfunctional and terroristic countries - until vetting is sorted out ...

All of which I guess are subsets of the wibbly wobbly “defend the West”

:clap:

You crack me up. :lol:

Trump is flirting heavily with those ideas. He has questioned why people from "shithole countries" should be let in the US. He has proposed to build a wall to keep immigrants out of the US. He has claimed that the immigrants approaching the US border are a threat. He has talked about "defending the West". He has proposed "muslim bans". Etc

[Steersman]

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Just a suggestion...

I'll take it under advisement, send it out to the ways and means committee ... :-)

Although the comment WAS directed at "Dave" whose avatar clearly indicated that he was still "unreconstructed", as I think the term is. :-) And there WAS a "bonus" in the link to WEIT and Kirbmarc's comment thereat.

[MarcusAu]

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Just a suggestion...

I'll take it under advisement, send it out to the ways and means committee ... :-)

Although the comment WAS directed at "Dave" whose avatar clearly indicated that he was still "unreconstructed", as I think the term is. :-) And there WAS a "bonus" in the link to WEIT and Kirbmarc's comment thereat.

Perhaps I'll take a second look.

As to the thread - if nothing else it could serve as a useful repository of transgressive knowledge.

[Snapfingers]

Bonus comments by Kirbmarc who narrowly misses agreeing with my "thesis" (The Imperative of Categories) that there are 2 sexes, some people don't have a sex, and that there are "billions and billions" of genders (slow learner that boy, always talking, never listening ... ;-) ):

Interesting article on Medium, albeit a bit short. Are you saying that a majority have neither sex? If you had the chance to write it in form that wasn't so constrained and abbreviated how would you expand that argument?

[MarcusAu]

it's simple - anyone not currently producing the gametes required for reproduction is no longer part of the human Von Neumann communion.

[AndrewV69]

No end to it apparently :

Rotherham grooming gangs: National Crime Agency investigating more than 420 suspects in 'unprecedented' operation

Mr Javid said that perpetrators convicted in high-profile cases have been “disproportionately from a Pakistani background”, adding: “I have instructed my officials to explore the particular context and characteristics of these types of gangs and if the evidence suggests that there are cultural factors that may be driving this type of offending, then I will take action.”

Somehow, I suspect that the evidence will suggest that these men are victims of the patriarchy who have been inoculated into the CIS, white male rape culture.

No doubt instructions will be issued to bring in the real culprits. Soon, any white males they can lay their hands on will be brought in willy nilly (and preferably by their willy as a sort of pre-sentence punishment).

But I could be wrong. Who knows?

Is there some justification in the Koran or Hadith that non-Muslim women are fair game as sex slaves for the true believers? I've heard various statements along the lines that all Western women are whores etc.

Quick answer:

I can find passages in the Quran to justify/reference sex with "those whom one's right hands possess". However, that phrase refers to women slaves.

Based on my experience, I believe it is mainly a cultural thing. So yes, Western women are considered "prostitutes" and fair game by many. The strength of this conviction depending more or less on how much education the person has.

I say person because many women believe this too. Remember that even in this day and age, illiteracy it is not uncommon in pockets in countries such as Syria, Iraq, Somalia and so on.

But even literacy is not a strong indicator either. Just remember that equality (any equality) is not part of the culture.