Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:20 am
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And you're entitled to that opinion. (I thought that way once, too.) But the SJWs at WEIT consistently strawman the pro death penalty argument, while excoriating and slandering any who support it. Also, forced to venture outside their ideological groupthink bubble for the first time, they are shockingly bad at defending their theses.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: ↑ I agree with Jerry.
All SJW public policy is grounded on the false concept that humans are, if not inherently good by nature, then at least tabula rasa thus ever malleable/redeemable. The current rage among the far left now is 'restorative justice', whereby criminals, even sadistic rapists and murderers, meet with their victims (or surviving family members), listen to how much their crime hurt them, and PAFF! experience a damascene moment, renounce crime, and do community service like picking litter as recompense. It's completely batshit crazy.mordacious1 wrote: ↑ I used to, also. I bought the Left’s argument that life without parole is a worse punishment than execution. But, as usual, they lied. They really didn’t want to lock them up forever, they wanted to let them go:
https://www.newyorkupstate.com/news/201 ... _york.html
That’s just from a four month period in 2016 in NY State.
And the very first case confirms why I agree with Jerry:mordacious1 wrote: ↑I used to, also. I bought the Left’s argument that life without parole is a worse punishment than execution. But, as usual, they lied. They really didn’t want to lock them up forever, they wanted to let them go:Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: ↑I agree with Jerry.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ More on The Unbearable Unwokeness of Capital Punishment at WEIT:
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... ed-killer/
https://www.newyorkupstate.com/news/201 ... _york.html
That’s just from a four month period in 2016 in NY State.
-- Sammy Swift, 59, convicted of beating Stephen DeLuca to death in 1994 during a robbery. Swift was sentenced to 20 years to life. Swift had his conviction overturned in 2008, after a Cayuga County judge ruled that new DNA evidence raised doubts about blood evidence linking Swift to the murder scene. But a year later, a state appeals overturned that ruling and reinstated the conviction. Swift plans to continue to try to overturn the conviction even though he's out of prison, said his former lawyer, Joseph Sapio. Swift is living in Cayuga County.
My opinion is in concordance with that of Phil.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: ↑ I agree with Jerry.
If this were so then it would be difficult, if not impossible for them to make generalisations on the basis of race.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ All SJW public policy is grounded on the false concept that humans are, if not inherently good by nature, then at least tabula rasa thus ever malleable/redeemable.
The far left (whatever that is, perhaps SJW left) doesn't really know what they want. They have little contact with the real world. What opinion they have on the situation "one the ground" is given to them by NPR and academia. So we have bleeding heart liberals who think psychopathic serial killers can be redeemed thru empathy, but also that a hapless drunken juveniles like Brock Turner should be raped in incarceration for ten years to life. The SJW left has no conception of what actual justice looks like. Confront them on this and they look at you with a blank stare, or the online equivalent.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:47 amAnd you're entitled to that opinion. (I thought that way once, too.) But the SJWs at WEIT consistently strawman the pro death penalty argument, while excoriating and slandering any who support it. Also, forced to venture outside their ideological groupthink bubble for the first time, they are shockingly bad at defending their theses.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: ↑ I agree with Jerry.
All SJW public policy is grounded on the false concept that humans are, if not inherently good by nature, then at least tabula rasa thus ever malleable/redeemable. The current rage among the far left now is 'restorative justice', whereby criminals, even sadistic rapists and murderers, meet with their victims (or surviving family members), listen to how much their crime hurt them, and PAFF! experience a damascene moment, renounce crime, and do community service like picking litter as recompense. It's completely batshit crazy.mordacious1 wrote: ↑ I used to, also. I bought the Left’s argument that life without parole is a worse punishment than execution. But, as usual, they lied. They really didn’t want to lock them up forever, they wanted to let them go:
https://www.newyorkupstate.com/news/201 ... _york.html
That’s just from a four month period in 2016 in NY State.
And my opinion is floating in an indeterminate state because I don't have all the answers having become much more ignorant with age.IMO the death penalty has as much to do with the value of maintaining or eroding a sense of the sacredness of life as it has to do with justice and crime rates. It's a bit like gun rights where you have to balance the value of lowering the overall death rate against the right of the individual to self defence. Statistics are not everything, there are effects on the "national psyche" to consider.MarcusAu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:52 amMy opinion is in concordance with that of Phil.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: ↑ I agree with Jerry.
True. The psychopath is said to know right from wrong, but I think it is more accurate to say that they know what will get them punished and what won't.Hunt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:16 amThat being said, there are some people who, barring execution, should be incarcerated for life. There really are people beyond redemption, and we shouldn't bother trying. That doesn't mean we should torture them with inhumane accommodations. You don't torture an animal that kills (though often they're put down); you shouldn't torture a human who kills. This distinction about knowing right from wrong is ultimately a religious qualification. I'm not entirely sure some murderers don't "think" they're doing the right thing, to them.
The trick is separating the two, those who can and can't be redeemed.
Shit does happen. The Shawshank guy was a teenager and was committing an armed robbery, innocent people got killed. His fault, but I think THOSE type of guys can be rehabilitated. But he most likely wouldn’t have gotten the needle for that today, unless a cop was killed. Usually the DP applies to heinous murders, rape and brutal torture killing of a child, for example. That kind of sicko can’t be rehabbed. That being said, iff the Left can ensure that they won’t let these brutal killers out again, I’m okay with life behind bars...but they broke that contract by letting these guys out:
At the end of the day, the far left's obsession with incarceration & capital punishment is about race. They think 'systemic racism' and cheap pot busts are at fault for the preponderance of blacks in prison and on death row, despite the fact that only 15% of prisoners are doing time for drug offenses (with many of those plea cops where the other more serious charges were dropped), and that blacks commit 1/3 of all violent crimes, including half of all murders.Hunt wrote: ↑ The far left (whatever that is, perhaps SJW left) doesn't really know what they want. They have little contact with the real world. What opinion they have on the situation "one the ground" is given to them by NPR and academia. So we have bleeding heart liberals who think psychopathic serial killers can be redeemed thru empathy, but also that a hapless drunken juveniles like Brock Turner should be raped in incarceration for ten years to life. The SJW left has no conception of what actual justice looks like. Confront them on this and they look at you with a blank stare, or the online equivalent.
We shouldn't rely too heavily on Stephen King novels for insight._I_ do believe in redemption and rehabilitation. The Shawshank example, obviously dramatic, is true. People do change. People are sucked into situations were murder happens, and they are not entirely beyond redemption. Shit happens, and it has little to do with Jerry's--irrelevant to my mind--ideas on free will determinism. To relegate all murderers to lifetime incarceration is wrongheaded, to my mind. I know many people disagree, and I know that I might disagree too, if a loved one was taken.
The Hare Psychopathy Screening is considered very reliable when conducted by trained professionals.The trick is separating the two, those who can and can't be redeemed.
Nah. He's just slut shaming.Hunt wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:43 pmYou may be suffering from hypersexualization.katamari Damassi wrote: ↑Very interesting from what I could get out of it. I was distracted by his amazing ass.
He really shouldn't wear tight jeans if he wants to be heard.
They seriously believe that most cons are in for smoking blunts. And those are the lucky ones, who weren't simply shot with their hands up for the crime of wearing a hoodie while black.mordacious1 wrote: ↑ If the Left is concerned with race, then they’d keep these people incarcerated. Half of all murder victims are Black males. When they let these murderers out, they don’t go to Andrew Cuomo’s neighborhood, or Gavin Newsom’s, or even Jerry Coyne’s. They go back into the Black communities where many of them came from. If they murder again, it will be those people who will suffer the consequences.
It reminds me of a few years ago there was a piece written by a white woman who was doing aid work in Haiti, and she was violently raped by a Haitian she had been working with. She didn't blame him, but instead blamed white males for the rape, because racism and oppression made that man a rapist.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ At the end of the day, the far left's obsession with incarceration & capital punishment is about race. They think 'systemic racism' and cheap pot busts are at fault for the preponderance of blacks in prison and on death row, despite the fact that only 15% of prisoners are doing time for drug offenses (with many of those plea cops where the other more serious charges were dropped), and that blacks commit 1/3 of all violent crimes, including half of all murders.
It really is a mass mental illness whereby they believe that no white can ever do any good, and no black or brown can ever do any wrong.
There are three.mike150160 wrote: ↑There's a topic?
I'm quite enjoying it, and some of the episodes with Ibis, Anansi, Baron Samedi, and of course Shadow Moon, were beautifully cinematic.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ I started watching American Gods, but it sucked beyond belief. Neil Gaiman really is afflicted with negrophilia.
Fantastic show!Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: ↑ Completely off topic, but anyone watched Godless? That was fucking good.
Hypocrisy and sanctimony aside, at least GT isn't as pig ignorant on the underlying issue as the conspiracy-theorising naysayers. If anything, climatologists have been a bit reticent of late in expressing how alarming they think the situation really is. Poking fun at the sanctimonious celebs is really just another way of negating the seriousness of the issue. If PJW really wanted to expose some AGW related lunacy he would be directing some snark this way:
That's the big problem with Greta the Assburger and the rest of those climate virtue signalers -- they only succeed in serving as low-hanging pinatas for denialist shit-for-brains like PJW.ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑ Hypocrisy and sanctimony aside, at least GT isn't as pig ignorant on the underlying issue as the conspiracy-theorising naysayers. If anything, climatologists have been a bit reticent of late in expressing how alarming they think the situation really is. Poking fun at the sanctimonious celebs is really just another way of negating the seriousness of the issue.
Someone has to do it. The numpties will beat the messenger regardless of who it is (although David Attenborough probably gets a pensioner pass).Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑That's the big problem with Greta the Assburger and the rest of those climate virtue signalers -- they only succeed in serving as low-hanging pinatas for denialist shit-for-brains like PJW.ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑ Hypocrisy and sanctimony aside, at least GT isn't as pig ignorant on the underlying issue as the conspiracy-theorising naysayers. If anything, climatologists have been a bit reticent of late in expressing how alarming they think the situation really is. Poking fun at the sanctimonious celebs is really just another way of negating the seriousness of the issue.
There's a bit of a feedback loop going on, and it's a race to the bottom rather than a virtuous cycle.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ I usually find Piers Morgan grating, but he nails it here:
Piers Morgan: Populism Is Rising Because Liberals Have Become Unbearable
Fuck me. The lunatics really are in charge of the asylum.ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑ snip
https://youtu.be/DRBfM709Yqc
How do you get to be this ignorant? By studying Robotics at MIT apparently. What is it about engineering that attracts the Dunning-Krugerites?
One of the more convincing explanations of the economic roots of populism I've seen. Perhaps he underplays other socio-political aspects but he knows his economics and he's entertaining. From watching some of his other talks I'm getting the impression that policy-makers and an awful lot of the financial world understand jack shit about fundamentals. He makes what looks to me like a good case that they mistake laws applicable to transient implementations of capitalist systems for universals.KiwiInOz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:41 pmThere's a bit of a feedback loop going on, and it's a race to the bottom rather than a virtuous cycle.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ I usually find Piers Morgan grating, but he nails it here:
Piers Morgan: Populism Is Rising Because Liberals Have Become Unbearable
At some point you have to look at the numbers. It seems far more likely that you're the crazy one, rather than everyone else being crazy and you being the only sane one.
The last human on earth sat in a locked room. There's a knock at the door.
I've been watching a few MB videos, ever since I came across him at nakedcapitalism.com (which is, BTW, a fine site itself). I find the vids both informing and entertaining.ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑One of the more convincing explanations of the economic roots of populism I've seen. Perhaps he underplays other socio-political aspects but he knows his economics and he's entertaining. From watching some of his other talks I'm getting the impression that policy-makers and an awful lot of the financial world understand jack shit about fundamentals. He makes what looks to me like a good case that they mistake laws applicable to transient implementations of capitalist systems for universals.KiwiInOz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:41 pmThere's a bit of a feedback loop going on, and it's a race to the bottom rather than a virtuous cycle.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ I usually find Piers Morgan grating, but he nails it here:
Piers Morgan: Populism Is Rising Because Liberals Have Become Unbearable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuaoARJYU0
Funny thing about the enabling and inspiring violence thing is that it sometimes works the other way round to that in which the Resistance claim. At the risk of inflaming Rabbit and Bear, I think Brive was correct in his conjecture as to the roots of recent so-called Right-wing violence in the West. It generally isn't when national leaders talk about a problem that the violence happens, it's when people perceive a major problem in their societies and nobody is talking about it or is allowed to talk about it. Intense frustration has to be released somehow and some people will blow violently. Problem on the Left is that loons genuinely believe that there is a Nazi problem and the authorities refuse to act. They're in a real tizzy over it, hence the rampant violence. IMO the reason they haven't gone full fertiliser bomb is that there are so many public figures and media outlets agreeing with them, which releases some of the emotion.
That really is what it's all about. Peez has failed at masculinity his entire life, so when he bombasts " it’s time to overthrow the old order. There will be great pain in the churn", he's fantasizing about toppling all the boys & men who ever were better at being boys & men than he (which he defines as "misogyny" and 'toxic masculinity'.)
:DMatt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑There are three.mike150160 wrote: ↑There's a topic?
Four if you count Tuvok's fantasies of rare, horrific diseases afflicting Peez.