It spoke to me too. Lamb is always good.
Better than visiting the ‘Oreo Cafe’ - to be sure.
Just wait till they discover that shooting feral cats is an Australian habit...Brive1987 wrote: ↑Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑You all shoot shelter dogs on a regular basis, then?
"The rig...... imposing some unbalanced worldview onto the landscape.
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That's a crap argument. Especially for you. I know for a fact that 'Out Back of Bourke' has never had a lockdown before. I'd imagine there's been a gun-centric holocaust inflicted on local kangaroos and rabbits / foxes. Bourke ain't leafy Annandale. Shooting a few dogs to lose a problem wouldn't lead to the fainting couch. Maybe you should wonder why a local council ranger in fuck-stick Bourke has become so iconic? Who is playing who?You all shoot shelter dogs on a regular basis, then?
The buggers eat dinkum bird life. And seem to avoid Kamikaze raids on cane toads. Matt will love it that we are also eyeing the wild brumbies for a culling.screwtape wrote: ↑Just wait till they discover that shooting feral cats is an Australian habit...Brive1987 wrote: ↑Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑You all shoot shelter dogs on a regular basis, then?
"The rig...... imposing some unbalanced worldview onto the landscape.
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That's a crap argument. Especially for you. I know for a fact that 'Out Back of Bourke' has never had a lockdown before. I'd imagine there's been a gun-centric holocaust inflicted on local kangaroos and rabbits / foxes. Bourke ain't leafy Annandale. Shooting a few dogs to lose a problem wouldn't lead to the fainting couch. Maybe you should wonder why a local council ranger in fuck-stick Bourke has become so iconic? Who is playing who?You all shoot shelter dogs on a regular basis, then?
Yet-another example of screwtape not-seeing the original news story post, due-to 'ignore'ing me, but feeling confident that his reply is fully-informed.
Are we supposed to feel better that ten were puppies?
Funny thing about Aussies. They are to be found puking on tables at Oktoberfest and generally being at large and unruly in Europe in the company of Kiwis and South Africans. Friends who've visited Australia tend to report how rulebound the place is though. Have come across a number of Aussie house shares with a strange love of cooking rosters. It can present as a more civilised than thou affectation. Was never for me, the single life is all about freedom from restrictions.
I’m not sure you’re trying to understand my point.Service Dog wrote: ↑
You're a straight-shooter Brive. You were better-off saying Lockdown-means-lockdown/no-exceptions.
Retreating-to Oh, And... They Were Also Bad Dogs makes your case weaker, not stronger.
Likewise, it's a weasel-word to say the Cobar rescuers were 'unable' to come to Bourke. The dogs were killed because Cobar WAS able to come.
I can't help but see a parallel to Biden strawman-ing the backlash against his Afghanistan exit-- as a debate over whether-to-leave-at-all, rather than criticism of How he chose to leave.
Brive1987 wrote: ↑I’m not sure you’re trying to not understand my point.Service Dog wrote: ↑
You're a straight-shooter Brive. You were better-off saying Lockdown-means-lockdown/no-exceptions.
Retreating-to Oh, And... They Were Also Bad Dogs makes your case weaker, not stronger.
Likewise, it's a weasel-word to say the Cobar rescuers were 'unable' to come to Bourke. The dogs were killed because Cobar WAS able to come.
I can't help but see a parallel to Biden strawman-ing the backlash against his Afghanistan exit-- as a debate over whether-to-leave-at-all, rather than criticism of How he chose to leave.
I understand. You're very clear & make the best-case-possible for what you're defending. And other places with other values do things other ways.
Pretty much. It’s a shit sandwich.Service Dog wrote: ↑I understand. You're very clear & make the best-case-possible for what you're defending. And other places with other values do things other ways.
And reality is too complex & random to ever really know which way is ~ultimately~ best.
For example-- Trump placed his bet early on vaccines, so the US had plentiful vax, first. But-- at this stage-- it seems vaccines are a letdown in effectiveness.
Your politicians failed to secure vaccines early. Seemingly an error. But it forced you to rely on harsh lockdowns-- which have downsides/ but are more effective against spread.
Then-again-- the virus is far less lethal than was previously feared. So... the high cost of stopping it-- seems to have little benefit. Unless the Abos really-are vulnerable. etc.
:roll: :lol:Fully vaccinated households in the local government areas of concern can gather outside for recreation one hour within 5km of home between 5am and 9pm. This is in addition to the hour of exercise. Only the adults in the household need to be vaccinated.
Groups of five fully vaccinated people who live outside of the local government areas of concern can gather outdoors within their local government areas or 5km from home.
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑We do at least walk cross the road against the signal. We have that over the Germans and Austrians that I've observed in their natural habitat.
Funny thing about Aussies. They are to be found puking on tables at Oktoberfest and generally being at large and unruly in Europe in the company of Kiwis and South Africans. Friends who've visited Australia tend to report how rulebound the place is though. Have come across a number of Aussie house shares with a strange love of cooking rosters. It can present as a more civilised than thou affectation. Was never for me, the single life is all about freedom from restrictions.
You may well be flogging an inanimate equine at this point.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ Working just fine at gelding all of you.
Germans and Austrians are hooligans next to the Swiss. Mate of mine stepped off the kerb to cross an empty Zurich street contrary to the lights and received a tug on the back of his shirt from a native. Not that I've ever been there. My personal experience of Switzerland is the Sprungli choc shop in Zurich airport and a particularly harrowing balls up by Swiss Air involving a late connecting flight, an 8 hour stay in the airport followed by a flight to Vienna and another hours long wait for a long haul flight. Chocolate good, airline bad. No wonder the airline went tits up.
You get all weepy over ANZAC Day, when you celebrate sacrificing the lives of young men in their prime to preserve freedom.Brive1987 wrote: ↑ United States has 1912 deaths per million with 20 per million in the past 7d. 627K deaths in total
Australia has 39 deaths per million with 0.55 per million in the past 7d. 0.9K deaths in total
And this is the face of a vaccine shortage.
Let us know when your country wants some methodological schooling. :popcorn: :whistle:
Ritual Animal Sacrifice: It works, bitches!Brive1987 wrote: ↑ United States has 1912 deaths per million with 20 per million in the past 7d. 627K deaths in total
Australia has 39 deaths per million with 0.55 per million in the past 7d. 0.9K deaths in total
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Let us know when your country wants some methodological schooling. :popcorn: :whistle:
The ANZAC concept is something retooled by government to meet evolving social agendas. Currently it (apparently) expresses past demonstration of our tolerant and diverse community. :bjarte:Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑You get all weepy over ANZAC Day, when you celebrate sacrificing the lives of young men in their prime to preserve freedom.Brive1987 wrote: ↑ United States has 1912 deaths per million with 20 per million in the past 7d. 627K deaths in total
Australia has 39 deaths per million with 0.55 per million in the past 7d. 0.9K deaths in total
And this is the face of a vaccine shortage.
Let us know when your country wants some methodological schooling. :popcorn: :whistle:
Then you boast of sacrificing your freedom to temporarily delay the closing curtain on a handful of elderly and unhealthy individuals.
Dogs are still called upon to pay the highest price. Poppies for Puppies.
Quality of life matters a lot more to me than quantity. I do not think a drug addict who spends most of their time high and (chemically) happy has a meaningful life. I do not think being plugged into the matrix and having a simulated life is a meaningful life. At most, I have 80 years of useable life, and that is being stolen from me. I may get sick and die, sure, but the opportunity costs are not being placed on the scales against lives "saved".Brive1987 wrote: ↑ United States has 1912 deaths per million with 20 per million in the past 7d. 627K deaths in total
Australia has 39 deaths per million with 0.55 per million in the past 7d. 0.9K deaths in total
And this is the face of a vaccine shortage.
Let us know when your country wants some methodological schooling. :popcorn: :whistle:
You get an “F” if you don’t exit lockdown: fitter, armed with a new skill-set and wielding a recalibrated focus.Keating wrote: ↑Quality of life matters a lot more to me than quantity. I do not think a drug addict who spends most of their time high and (chemically) happy has a meaningful life. I do not think being plugged into the matrix and having a simulated life is a meaningful life. At most, I have 80 years of useable life, and that is being stolen from me. I may get sick and die, sure, but the opportunity costs are not being placed on the scales against lives "saved".Brive1987 wrote: ↑ United States has 1912 deaths per million with 20 per million in the past 7d. 627K deaths in total
Australia has 39 deaths per million with 0.55 per million in the past 7d. 0.9K deaths in total
And this is the face of a vaccine shortage.
Let us know when your country wants some methodological schooling. :popcorn: :whistle:
I have no doubt I'll survive. I have a stable job and am far enough out that I'm away from prying eyes and thus can easily stay outside for more than an hour without anyone noticing. Surviving isn't sufficient. I want to live.
So, what you are really saying is, if you are well enough off not to be fucked by the lockdown then you won't be fucked by the lockdown.
The vast bulk of those who died were on their last legs. How much can the quality adjusted years of life saved by vaccinations, masks, lockdowns etc... actually be when averaged across the population? Would you be locked down for a year, make yourself significantly poorer, and harm your children's education to extend the low quality end of your life by a day? Maybe it's two days, but that's the cost/benefit analysis of "lock it all down", surely?Brive1987 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:02 pmUnited States has 1912 deaths per million with 20 per million in the past 7d. 627K deaths in total
Australia has 39 deaths per million with 0.55 per million in the past 7d. 0.9K deaths in total
And this is the face of a vaccine shortage.
Let us know when your country wants some methodological schooling. :popcorn: :whistle:
Suddenly the conversation is dangerously close to my level and field of expertise... :PMatt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Some dookies won't flush down no matter how hard you work the plunger.
https://archive.is/udPWiBhurzum wrote: ↑Suddenly the conversation is dangerously close to my level and field of expertise... :PMatt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Some dookies won't flush down no matter how hard you work the plunger.