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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Tony Parsehole wrote: JT also makes the mistake of saying the A+forum is troll fatigued. Troll fatigued? They have 1853 users and have only banned 30, including Matt, for "trolling". hardly warrants fatigue.*
Their definition of "troll" is what's fatiguing them. Trolling to them not only means people out to mock and disrupt, it also means people who don't know much about A+, are genuinely curious about what it's all about, and ask common questions that have been posed many times before. This annoys the High Priesthood, and such people are dismissed as trollish, disruptive and "JAQ-ing off". Seems to me, if you're trying to start a new movement, especially one that touts itself as being progressive, open and inclusive, that one should be patient of newbies and patiently and eagerly explain things to them in order to be inclusive and welcome them into the fold. But that's just me, that whole Sophisticated Theology thing is tough for me to figure out.

Another way to be instantly labeled a "problem" and a "troll" is to express concern over the way people are treated there. Every time the High Priests don their wife-beaters and go after someone who posted something innocuous but technically against the spirit of letter of the law of the 137-volume bylaws of that forum, there is invariably someone who takes issue with the treatment being meted out. Nothing gets you on the No Fly List faster than saying "Hey guys, I know that question's been asked a million times before, but do we really have to treat him this way? He's new here and seems to genuinely want to know, I don't see any indication of trolling here". Of course, that is tantamount to questioning the competence of the 574 moderators, which is treason.

If there was ever a group of people who needed to just relax, this is the one.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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O Hai TF!

If the design has not benn patented to an official organization, I'm not sure a DMCA is valid. That's just an input from my own experiences (I had to pay fucking 210 euros for my logo to be put in). Let's not even talk about Sacem for music.

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Michael K Gray wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:But if I can help him jump with joy, what's the hurt? I've made the world a little better...
If that is, indeed, your ultimate goal, then you shall brook no countenance from me.
But I suspect that from your previous verbiages that it not your ultimate goal.
I really have to brush on my English. I'm at a loss re the sublined part. But as far as my ultimate goal goes: live my life happily with my soon-to-be-wife and have lots of fun and adventures with the Pit. Worthy goals, yes?

As for "what's the hurt?", don't get me started, please!
One may well ask, (as an extremum): "What is the hurt in convincing folk that hippy crystals can cure cancer?"
(I am guessing that that question is as stark as the kreepy-marionette image.)
One poster on a forum does not mean the forum embrasses said poster's views. If he's trying to paint us in a bad light, well good luck to him. Everything is either here or archived. Let him have his fun.

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:<--- no smiley, out of respect
Well met, good Sir knight.
And Gladiator, I salute you!

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote:
Johann the Cabbie wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote: ...From which, I guess your hometown to be Reykjavik?
Surely you jest. I'm from a small town in central Maine.
Central Maine, Iceland?
You both are wrong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_(province)
I didn't even know the French had stolen my state name from one of their provinces. I'm gonna hafta DMCA France now, those fuckers.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Post by Johann the Cabbie »

Hello TFoot.

Some interesting background there concerning Amy's copyright bullshit.


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Gumby wrote:Seems to me, if you're trying to start a new movement, especially one that touts itself as being progressive, open and inclusive, that one should be patient of newbies and patiently and eagerly explain things to them in order to be inclusive and welcome them into the fold.
I laughed while reading JT trying to make a connection between how Matt's call-in talk show is moderated and how the A+ forums are moderated. I suppose they are both moderated in a fairly dismissive fashion, except in one case it's conducive to making an interesting television program, and in the other conducive to drumming people the fuck out of your oh so inclusive 'comminuty'.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote:then you shall brook no countenance from me.
I really have to brush on my English. I'm at a loss re the sublined part.
I feel ashamed, but likely should not.
I am confident that your English is far superior to my French, let that be stated.
I tend to employ archaisms that are popular amongst the wanker-crowd of academia.
I still find it passing strange that (say) Eton-educated Steven Fry is positively idolised for prostituting such targeted words & phrases, yet mere antipodean equivalents are shunned.

Once I have heaved that chip from off my shoulder, I propose to address your actual stumbling block:
"then you shall brook no countenance from me" sort-of means: "I will not object", or "I do not propose to put any hurdles in your path".
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_'br ... ment'_mean

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Tfoot wrote:FYI, surly amy threatened to sue for for 100 000 dollars for using her image on FTBs (going back a month or two).
ROFLMAO. Amy knows as much about the legal process as oolon does. The irony is that she probably made a bucket load of extra income following all the publicity. Far from costing her, I suspect tf00t/elevatorGate/Vacula fair use of her images actually made money for her.
Tfoot quoting Amy wrote:If Thunderfoot decides to use that image in any derogatory way from this moment on I will be eligible to sue him for $100,000 in damages.
Properly retarded. There is no "eligibility" criteria for suing someone. You just go and do it. Of course anyone who does that risks being saddled with defence costs under many circumstances for frivolous abuse of the court system, a point lawyers were subtly making on her behalf demanding a $5k upfront fee.

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Post by Johann the Cabbie »

Earlier I mentioned that I agreed to a debate with Paul Elam. I confess that I find the guy tedious, though not quite as tedious as Oolon.

My opening salvo and Elam's response:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/a-voice-for ... e-part-ii/

My latest response:
http://johannthecabbie.blogspot.nl/2012 ... t-iii.html

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My understanding of Fair Dealing use requires elements of criticism & review and is designed to allow News services to use otherwise copyrighted material to clarify or support the news article/story. The only caveat I'm aware of is that the copyrighted material needs to be specifically referenced and appropriately relevant.

For example. TV news story in the finance section uses Tom Cruise's "show me the money" grab illustrate a line in the story about corporate greed. In this instance copyright has been breached because it doesn't tick the caveats. There are other ways to use pictures to illustrate that line (and showing a picture of Rupert Murdoch) wouldn't work either and the line wasn't directly and specifically critiqued or mentioned in the TV reporters voice overlay. In this instance the reporter just needed to say... "...end the excessive attitudes of corporate CEO's as portrayed by Tom Cruise in.....

The trouble is, and I should check into this when I get to work on Monday, copyright laws haven't been updated since 2001 when Australian copyright laws were brought into line with the USA after the FTA was ratified. A lot has happened on the Internet since then and I suspect blogging has blurred the lines about what constitutes News (and Current Affairs) reportage.

PS: other than News services, Educational institutions are given the same laxities in Copyright news services get....

(heh! while typing this I had to add the word "blogging" to my dictionary)

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Oh Amy!

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[youtube]3vUVJsfG3eA[/youtube]

I'll leave it up to Lsuoma to delete this if necessary. Anyone who has my IP knows who I am and where I live. Anyone who knows my real name can find me easily enough. There has been no privacy on the Internet in years. You post on here, you are a public figure. Pro tip. If you are going to register a trademark, see if at least you can't use a PO box or perhaps your lawyer's office.

I'm very tempted to suggest the Streisland effect be used to publish her damn address all over the forking Internet. If this information is correct you live in an apartment building with some security at the front door unlike me who owns a house. What a piece of shit you are Amy. I have been harassed at home, I had a real time Internet stalker phoning me and my family at home. You don't know the meaning of harassment. Fuck you.

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Michael K Gray wrote:As for the idea that males 'feed' their wives, this is not borne out by any tribe of which I am familiar.
In traditional Australian tribes, it is the other women who bring in and prepare most of the food and provide care & protection for pregnant females.
Sorry for the late response to this, I originally thought of answering but other stuff got in the way, and then it seemed to be a rather minor thing to bring up after the discussion had moved on to other subjects... but then I recently read I think Steersman pointing out the importance of admitting you where wrong, and got reminded/"inspired" to do just that, and I also have reason to chip in on the Amy Roth/DMCA subject, so I though it'd be nice to properly end this discussion before I continue.
You're completely right, if what you say is true about the other women taking care of the pregnant in tribes etc. I have to admit that anthropology is something that I have a limited knowledge of, and that what was going through my mind when I posted that was a completely lone women in a cave, lumbering around in the 8th month, trying to get food and protect herself on her own, compared to a women in a cave + a male, where the male was the typical "provider husband". The rest of the tribe for some reason didn't even enter into my thoughts.

Now, to Amy Roth.
Her recent post is complete bullshit. She's either lying through her teeth, or she is completely clueless on how copyright, DMCA and fair use actually work. Justin's use was well within fair use, the image was relevant to the point Justin was making on the absurdities of banning "fake jewelry", it was not blatant copying, and the use of that photo has no impact on Amy's actual businesses, since her business is about selling jewelry, not photos of jewelry. This article from EFF is good reading on using others IP in blogs.

Her most important point seems to be that Justin, by accepting donations on his blog, is using her image commercially and is making money out of her copyrighted works, and that's enough to make the DMCA valid. Again, either she is clueless or dishonest, donations does not make a site commercial, and even if Justin's blog had been a commercial site, his use still falls under fair use and is completely legal. Even if you're a commercial company, and for example offer online reviews of products, like movies (see Rotten Tomatoes) you are allowed to for use copyrighted product images in reviews you publish, like thumbs of movie posters. Even if you're reviews are extremely negative and critical, the big movie companies can not shut down sites like Rotten Tomatoes or IMDB with DMCA notices, when one of their movies get a 3/10 score.

Her whole damn post is misrepresenting copyright law and procedures so horrible it makes my eyes water.

She simply "asked his server to remove the image" - Filing a DMCA complaint is "just asking for the host to remove the image" the same way that mugging someone at gunpoint is "just asking for some money". Filling a DMCA notice is serous legal accusation, and if the host don't comply, they themselves open themselves up to severe legal actions and economic damages. Therefore, abusing DMCAs to oppress and silence others is harshly punished, and if you do it you can potentially face some serious legal consequences.

She was completely unaware of what happens to DMCAd posts and no intention of censorship - She is either lying or completely clueless. DMCA claims are taken very seriously by most hosts, since they can be held accountable they always hit with the sledgehammer and not the scalpel. Even if the whole post would not have been removed, most hosts do have a 3 strike rule until they completely remove the whole blog.
This is basic knowledge, if for nothing else, just for the amount of drama abuses of DMCAs has caused to bloggers and youtubers. Anyone in the blogging business should know that DMCAs has been a tool often used to try to silence people, by very dubious and dishonest people. But of course, Amy isn't one of those slimeballs... no, she's just so angry that someone is making money with her art!!!!! :whistle:

Justin filing a counter DMCA "saying he had rights to my image" - No you lying *****. A counter DMCA is something that you have to do if someone is abusing the DMCA to try to silence people, WHICH YOU TRIED TO! It does not mean that the person is contesting your rights, it means that he thinks that your DMCA is invalid, because for example the use falls under fair use.

No one would take the case for under a $5,000 retainer because .. - Because any law firm know they'd lose the case since Justin's use falls under fair use, not because of the confused explanation about counter-DMCAing trolls Amy gives. Justin's use is almost a textbook example of fair use, and any law firm that took a closer look would see that.

Justin's use wasn't fair use because he makes money out of his blog - Simply not true, see above.

She temporarily lost the rights to her photos - No, you stupid... You still own the copyright! It's just that everyone has the right to use your IP if the use falls under fair use, forever and ever! That's how copyright laws work!

ps. this post was written ~14 hours ago, meant to post it but my internet went stone dead... :evil:

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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oolon said
3. Say a female person is a c*nt in a context where that person is being disparaged then misogyny is a reasonable assumption.

A citation for Dick and the Uk'ers who say 'no one' in the UK sees the word this way
http://www.thefword.org.uk/features/200 ... oo_for_who
Did anyone else read the post oolon linked?

Not only does it fail to make the point he suggests, it makes the opposite point. We have a UK feminist saying that cunt shouldnt be seen as taboo!

By the way, nice try at shifting the goalposts. I'm not saying that NOBODY in the UK thinks like that - there's bound to be some as it seems to be an idea that many radical feminists hold (as opposed to mainstream UK feminists - like the one in your link)

Can't we get a better troll?

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Tfoot:

I note that Matt in defence to your charge that the president of the ACA shouldn't be behaving in such fashion announces that he is not speaking in that capacity. The reasonable extrapolation is that what he says within and about atheism without his ACA hat on should have no bearing on his role as ACA president.

Really?! I also note Dillahunty objected to the appointment of Vacula to a position within the SCA because of what he said before he wore an SCA hat.

Dillahunty has demonstrated himself to be a walking advertisement for cognitive dissonance, and his alignment with the cult of victimhood (Aplus) puts a spotlight on it. There is what he wants it to be, what he believes it to be, and what it actually fucking is. He can't reconcile that last part with the first two, and thus rejects it.

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Dick Strawkins wrote:oolon said
3. Say a female person is a c*nt in a context where that person is being disparaged then misogyny is a reasonable assumption.

A citation for Dick and the Uk'ers who say 'no one' in the UK sees the word this way
http://www.thefword.org.uk/features/200 ... oo_for_who
Did anyone else read the post oolon linked?
ROFLMAO. I confess, I didn't bother following it since oolon created a straw man with the "no one" statement (in quotes, no less). Many people here referred to the use of cunt in the UK causing little concern, but also noted some hypersensitive people do need fainting couches. So, I didn't read the article since it was constructed on a pointless straw man.

But now you mention it, the article underlines EXACTLY the points we have been making here. The closing para sums it up:
Does that mean men can't use the word 'cunt' in an abusive way - that it should be reserved for women's use? Not necessarily. After all, if men can use it in a descriptive way, why not the other way too? The distinction seems facile. And distinguishing who can use a word on the basis of their sex seems unnecessarily discriminatory and separatist. Are you more offended when a man uses 'cunt' as a term of abuse than when a woman does? Should you be? And does that mean a woman using 'dick' as an insult is necessarily more offensive than a man using it? To be honest I don't know what the answer is. But I'd be interested to hear what you think.
Awesome. One paragraph of clear thought that the FC6/5/4 plus associated trolls are unable to connect the dots over.

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viewtopic.php?f=17&t=132&p=17683#p17683

Given the problems he has had accessing the other account he has said that he will open another registered account and use that instead. I have approved this: it is not multiple accounts, AFAIC, but if the original oolon account is ever again used for posting, I will deem this bad faith, and he may find himself being whisked off to a sandpit, depending on what sort of mood I am in.

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Tfoot, nice to see you here. I value your work immensely. However, I disagree with the trust of your post to Dillahunty.

I think there's more at stake than what you suggest in your characterisation of this rift as a squabble for petty goals among sad individuals (or some such).
This side is fighting back the hijacking of the movement by puritanical ideologues and über-virtuosi, who appointed themselves guardians of values they wish to impose on everyone else. Said values have nothing to do with the original objectives that brought so many diverse people together in the fight against religious superstition and in support of science and rational enquiry.
It is truly a shame that this is occurring, but the challenges this situation is posing cannot simply be left unchecked.
Surely, after your experiences at Peezus's hands, you cannot seriously suggest that all our side is offering to the community at large is popcorn entertainment.

I for one cannot wait for a refocussing of our collective efforts against the common enemies of ignorance and superstition, but this cannot be done under the jackboot of radical feminism.

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oolon** wrote: A citation for Dick and the Uk'ers who say 'no one' in the UK sees the word this way
http://www.thefword.org.uk/features/200 ... oo_for_who
Holy shit! Is that the best you can do? An article from 2003 which - in all the time it's been up there - was retweeted 3 times and recommended by a staggering 33 people on facebook! :lol:

Sure, it's a bit more than 'no one'. Just a bit, mind.

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*Thrust, not trust.

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Dick Strawkins wrote:oolon said
3. Say a female person is a c*nt in a context where that person is being disparaged then misogyny is a reasonable assumption.

A citation for Dick and the Uk'ers who say 'no one' in the UK sees the word this way
http://www.thefword.org.uk/features/200 ... oo_for_who
Did anyone else read the post oolon linked?

Not only does it fail to make the point he suggests, it makes the opposite point. We have a UK feminist saying that cunt shouldnt be seen as taboo!

By the way, nice try at shifting the goalposts. I'm not saying that NOBODY in the UK thinks like that - there's bound to be some as it seems to be an idea that many radical feminists hold (as opposed to mainstream UK feminists - like the one in your link)

Can't we get a better troll?
Yes Dick, I read the link Oolon posted but because it was so utterly full of shit(a single feminist blogpost proves that cunt is a misogynistic term in the UK regardless of the other 64,000,009 people who claim otherwise?) I perceived it as blatant trolling and am now refusing to bite on any of his bait.

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@Tfoot. Welcome! Banned of Matt huh? You probably sparked his guilty conscience. All the shit he slung at you is going to come back and bite him on the arse.

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real horrorshow wrote:It's an interesting article. Worth a look.
Most of their articles are quite interesting. Typhon Blue, who writes there also has a YouTube channel. Here's a recent video by her, although it's on JohnTheOther's channel instead of her own:

[youtube]doqXTCa3AZo[/youtube]

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decius wrote:*Thrust, not trust.

RAPE! RAPE! HELP!

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decius wrote:Take notice, everyone.
Phil, not ignoring you as I find this board a bit difficult to navigate - hard to find where I was previously and the number of people making comments on my points make it difficult to reply (Is that called a dogpile? Seems quite similar to when I disagree on FtBs).
More disingenuous self-exculpatory tripe similar to "I forgot my password" or "I'm unable to set up a second account".

The format of these boards lends itself to easy consultation and makes it very hard to miss the point and what each individual poster has said at any given time.

From experience, I started here by taking a 'contrarian' position that sent me on a collision course with several of the more eloquent and verbose (in the good sense of the word) denizens of the Pit. I had no difficulty whatsoever to follow, acknowledge and debate most if not all of their points and they all used the same courtesy to me. Although there was quite the barrage of posts coming my way, the difference was in the mutual commitment to progressing the conversation, rather than dishonestly stalling it.
Many others have managed to do the same, only poor poor Baboolon can't.
He's probably having extra difficulty following along due to not being signed in. If signed in, a person can have the forum take them to exactly where the new comments start in the thread. I explain how to navigate the forum here: http://scentednectar.blogspot.com/2012/ ... -fine.html

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Tfoot wrote:So why didnt I go for Amy? Well people get tired of constantly fighting muppets who use the DMCA for censorship. Its the most common complaint I get is that I spend too much time on this sort of thing. Amy got lucky!
However the fact that she threatened to sue someone for 100 000 dollars simply for using one of her images which would amply fall under the fair use defense has put her in the same camp as a lot of creationists jerks who use it to stifle debate.

In fact, lets go thru the checklist of A+theism and creationism
1) used dmca to stifle open debate: CHECK (nice one Amy)
2) blocks or bans people for mild disagreement (CHECK, nice one Matt D and FTB and A+theism forum)
3) turns off comments and ratings (CHECK, see PZ video about throwing me out from FTB)

FYI on that last one, I had long predicted that PZ would delete the comments as soon as he found out what people were saying about him, so I copied the last 500 comments. LMAO, this like playin chess with VFX again....not too bright and soooo predictable!
I think the non-youtubing bloggers have only just discovered the dmca as a way to silence others. They have no idea what fair use is, and obviously no idea at all that you have fought some well known (on yt anyways) dmca's. Venomfangx was hilarious when having to apologize on camera as part of the settlement in your favour after the shit he caused with his false dmca's. Would I ever love to see Amy have to do the same sort of thing. :lol:

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Oolon you cunt, you have shown quite clearly by your avoidance of my woostion that you are in fact a woostain.

Amswer the fucking question are you or are you not a gayfish

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bhoytony wrote:
decius wrote:*Thrust, not trust.

RAPE! RAPE! HELP!
A rape joke! Where's my pitchfork?

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Michael K Gray wrote: Were I Oolon, I'd be jumping with joy that that you had been taking the fetid bait for so long, despite other fish warning you about the trol-nets.
Or maybe it's the other way round, MKG. Personally, I'm finding that Oolon, despite his contrary attitude, is really getting into the spirit of things here - posting a lot, and putting plenty into those posts. In fact, I reckon he's coming to enjoy his frequent forays here - hell, earlier he said he visited to escape his in-laws, which counts for something, I reckon. Personally, I'd go so far as to consider Oolon a right proper bona-fide Slymepitter.

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Tigzy wrote:
Or maybe it's the other way round, MKG. Personally, I'm finding that Oolon, despite his contrary attitude, is really getting into the spirit of things here - posting a lot, and putting plenty into those posts. In fact, I reckon he's coming to enjoy his frequent forays here - hell, earlier he said he visited to escape his in-laws, which counts for something, I reckon. Personally, I'd go so far as to consider Oolon a right proper bona-fide Slymepitter.
Nice try, but too obvious.

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Noel plum is a racist cunt, i knew there was something wrong with the blonde hair in that video. And yes the hair is wrong, but he associates with a white supremacist group. Bastard goes to sports events and everything with them. I knew it when i spotted the tell tale badge on his shirt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Headhunters

Noel needs to be reported to youtube, his agenda in posting is now clear. He a fucking deep cover nazi. Bet he didnt even realise that we'd spot the giveaway chelsea badge on his shirt.


I cant believe im about to do this: but just incase there are any Aplus ftb morons reading this who later suggest that plum is in fact a racist as proven through this post. This you intellectual retards it is what is known amongst non fucktards as a pisstake.

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Za-zen wrote:Noel plum is a racist cunt, i knew there was something wrong with the blonde hair in that video. And yes the hair is wrong, but he associates with a white supremacist group. Bastard goes to sports events and everything with them. I knew it when i spotted the tell tale badge on his shirt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Headhunters

Noel needs to be reported to youtube, his agenda in posting is now clear. He a fucking deep cover nazi. Bet he didnt even realise that we'd spot the giveaway chelsea badge on his shirt.


I cant believe im about to do this: but just incase there are any Aplus ftb morons reading this who later suggest that plum is in fact a racist as proven through this post. This you intellectual retards it is what is known amongst non fucktards as a pisstake.
Pffff....As if that disclaimer will stop anything.

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Za-zen wrote:Noel plum is a racist cunt, i knew there was something wrong with the blonde hair in that video. And yes the hair is wrong, but he associates with a white supremacist group. Bastard goes to sports events and everything with them. I knew it when i spotted the tell tale badge on his shirt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Headhunters

Noel needs to be reported to youtube, his agenda in posting is now clear. He a fucking deep cover nazi. Bet he didnt even realise that we'd spot the giveaway chelsea badge on his shirt.


I cant believe im about to do this: but just incase there are any Aplus ftb morons reading this who later suggest that plum is in fact a racist as proven through this post. This you intellectual retards it is what is known amongst non fucktards as a pisstake.
Blech! I've come across some of those Chelsea Headhunters living as expats and had some dealings with them. A more horrible, moronic and most of all cowardly bunch of skidmarks I have yet to meet.

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Bhoy, you celtic twat, how bout i scottish kiss the fuck hole on your face after my team rape yours.

Somebody role in the couches for all the yanks that are about to swoon.

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Let's see of I can post a photo...
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Thimbledoo has clearly not got his skeptic hat on in his latest round of dribblings:
Especially when pattern recognition dictates that the overwhelming majority of the time that an argument is framed the way you framed it, it actually is a troll.
Has he never heard of pareidolia?

What a dummy.

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Za-zen wrote:Bhoy, you celtic twat, how bout i scottish kiss the fuck hole on your face after my team rape yours.

Somebody role in the couches for all the yanks that are about to swoon.
Scottish kiss? Please learn the correct terminology or I may have to pit the heid on you.

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Johann the Cabbie wrote:Let's see of I can post a photo...
And you lot say that the A+ers lack self-awareness.......

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Za-zen wrote:Malky
You're not from Dundee are you?

Set phasers tae malky

[youtube]KoBk8bxU1rs[/youtube]

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bhoytony wrote:
Za-zen wrote:Malky
You're not from Dundee are you?

Set phasers tae malky

[youtube]KoBk8bxU1rs[/youtube]

That is fuckin golden. Im norn iron.

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Johann the Cabbie wrote:Let's see of I can post a photo...
For some unknown reason I seem to be remembering that episode of 'The Simpsons' when Homer bankrupt the 'All-You-Can-Eat' restaurant.

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[youtube]GORgx5ODkn8[/youtube]

If you don't get this, you need a passport.

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Scented Nectar wrote: I think the non-youtubing bloggers have only just discovered the dmca as a way to silence others. They have no idea what fair use is, and obviously no idea at all that you have fought some well known (on yt anyways) dmca's. Venomfangx was hilarious when having to apologize on camera as part of the settlement in your favour after the shit he caused with his false dmca's. Would I ever love to see Amy have to do the same sort of thing. :lol:

[youtube]T_MYyc-PtH4[/youtube]
Not much of a YT follower, so I missed all of this. That video is hilarious, and one that Amy and her ilk should pay attention to.

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Tigzy wrote:Personally, I'd go so far as to consider Oolon a right proper bona-fide Slymepitter.
You cunt: you've probably got him banned from FfTB for life with that comment...

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I'm out of here, A+ forum is way more entertaining than you lot.

Here are a couple of random pearls. There's a poster called Equality+. Take a second to appreciate the implicit idiocy.
Then, from the official Dillahunty ban edict:
By comparison, I have "seniority", having moderated for three weeks here.

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Johann the Cabbie wrote:Not much of a YT follower, so I missed all of this. That video is hilarious, and one that Amy and her ilk should pay attention to.
I don't think she'll find it as funny as we do though. :lol:

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Scented Nectar wrote:I think the non-youtubing bloggers have only just discovered the dmca as a way to silence others. They have no idea what fair use is, and obviously no idea at all that you have fought some well known (on yt anyways) dmca's. Venomfangx was hilarious when having to apologize on camera as part of the settlement in your favour after the shit he caused with his false dmca's. Would I ever love to see Amy have to do the same sort of thing. :lol:
I remember when that was kicking off (as I had only just watched the "why do people laugh at creationists" series shortly beforehand). I was kind of convinced that the apology video would not see the light of day, but clearly tf00t made sure it happened, but the fact that venomfangx went through with it shows some integrity on his part as well.

I would bet dollars to donuts (or pounds to peanuts for the UK side) that Amy would not have the integrity to make such an apology. And if my side of the bet is right, that would mean Amy has LESS integrity than PCS.

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masakari2012 wrote:...And why would we not welcome Skep tickle with open arms? At least Skep tickle can see through the dogma of A+/FTB. In the event that Matt reads this..... remember, Skep tickle did bring up reasonable objections without being offensive, and was met with "snarky" comments, then banned.
Thank you. And I'd also like to thank oolon for linking, in the replies to "Matt I really think you owe them an apology" at Lousy Canuck, to my first post here, which could help anyone interested in looking behind the A+ facade.

My reply in the "Matt...apology" thread was apparently tossed into the garbage, as it went to moderation* after I submitted it 7 hrs ago but no longer shows up for me as being in moderation. (Of course, it's always possible that it was set aside carefully into storage, to be re-posted in a more appropriate place once I contacted mods to request that. Ha.) Anticipating this could happen, I saved a copy, and will take the liberty of posting it here. (*I registered as a new member under a different "skep..." name, since the account name I thought I'd used for my one prior post at FtB wasn't recognized - possibly banned??? not sure, it was actually my real name - and it wouldn't accept "skep tickle" for some reason)

Interested readers may wish to note that this comment was censored at FtB from appearing in response to this claim by Lousy Canuck about Matt Dillahunty's actions:
...your, frankly, rather offensive behaviour in advocating for someone who’d been banned, with the same sternness they’d come to expect from their community leaders. By a number of accounts, this person was banned perfectly reasonably — I know you’ve explained here that you feel it was less than merited, that the person was just overly snarky, but the people running the forum disagree.
Here's my reply, as I posted it 8 hrs ago (with 2 small typos corrected but no other changes):
Whether or not Skep tickle ‘was there only to resist the “Kool-Aid”…' without “contributing directly to the health of the discussion–the purpose of the forum–itself” is one of those assessments that depends hugely on the lens you wear. My perspective is that of Skep tickle, as I am she.

Skep tickle’s 15 or so posts before the “overly snarky” last one (about litmus tests and examining the Kool-Aid before drinking it) included some probing in discussions about the forum whether the actuality of Atheism+ matched the ideal or goal in the eyes of the members & mods, because there seems to at least some observers and new members to be a significant discrepancy. (Likely another one of those assessments influenced by one’s lens.)

Skep tickle questioned whether it would really be permitted in the “safe space” of the Atheism+ forum to say that [one group of people] was inherently inferior to [another group of people], as seemed to be suggested (by a couple of non-mods) in one of the discussions about moderation; one person finally said he/she didn’t think it would be okay but as a non-mod his/her opinion didn’t matter. No mod weighed in on that question, that I saw.

Skep tickle questioned whether the Welcome! page at the entrance to the Atheism+ forum might in fact be giving visitors who might then sign on new members the wrong impression, and therefore contributing (inadvertently) to the “troll problem”, because of its description of the forum as a space (emphasis added) “for people…to apply skepticism and critical thinking to everything, including social issues, like sexism, racism, GLBT issues…”. Yet the application of skepticism to many topics is clearly not (currently, or recently) welcomed at the forum about “everything”, especially (again, at least through some lenses) not about “social issues”.

Skep tickle asked what “safe space” was intended to mean, since participants seem to have different expectations and the “troll problem” seems to be largely seen as one of aggressors challenging the safe space. If the group is not clear on what a “safe space” is, how can such a space be created and maintained? Who is it to be safe for? For what purpose, from what challenge or harm, in order to do what? Skep tickle suggested restricting access to all or part of the forum, so that those who had passed some type of review (including potentially being recommended by trusted members) could have a space safe from voyeurs and trolls; that would take more mod effort up front, but presumably much less effort downstream in policing behavior and weeding out the troublemakers.

Skep tickle also went poking around the internet, including in the Slymepit, to see what evidence she could find to support the claims against Justin Vacula. She missed the SPLC page critiquing AVfM, but (as she said in that thread), that didn’t really matter because in fact he didn’t “write for” AVfM; they posted (for him) a post he wrote for his own blog, when he couldn’t air it on his own site because of the DMCA claim. (It’s up on his own blog, now.) Skep tickle indicated in that thread that she would welcome any links to evidence to support the claims about him favoring harassment, etc, etc; as of this time, none have been posted.

Skep tickle is an admin at another atheist site, IRL the director of a women’s clinic, and a scientist by training, so has had some reason to think about behavior and expectations online and IRL, creating and maintaining safe spaces (for women seeking health care, at least), hiring, and skeptically evaluating claims.

Whether or not there’s any chance of that overlapping with “contributing directly to the health of the discussion–the purpose of the forum–itself” may depend on what lens one looks through.
It now occurs to me that I could link to some of those posts. Seems like an effort. Let me know if anyone wants that.

I'd forgotten to add, above, that Skep tickle had asked, in the "what's a safe space" question (which didn't stimulate any discussion, in one of the forum moderation threads at A+) what the behavioral expectations really were, since the main 2 rules are <i>said<i> to be "Don't be an ass" (changed from "Don't be a dick" after someone who is treated like a burr under the saddle pointed out "DBAD" was a gender-based slur, which the same post introducing the rules said was to be avoided) and "Be nice". However, there are clearly well-established, internally-valued members whose posts would be interpreted by most people as violating those rules. (Cipher is top of that list.)

What I took away is that those are the facade-rules. The <i>real</i> rules are:
- Agree with us
- Back down immediately if we tell you to

And on another topic: love the new vocabulary suggestions!

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Spence wrote:I was kind of convinced that the apology video would not see the light of day, but clearly tf00t made sure it happened, but the fact that venomfangx went through with it shows some integrity on his part as well.
I don't think he had any choice. Making false claims is a criminal offense as far as I can recall.

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Scented Nectar wrote:
Johann the Cabbie wrote:Not much of a YT follower, so I missed all of this. That video is hilarious, and one that Amy and her ilk should pay attention to.
I don't think she'll find it as funny as we do though. :lol:
I doubt Roth et al could ever find anything funny, what with those rods stuck firmly up their arses....pub bores the lot of them.

Oh, ex-NornIron gobshite here too, Za-zen...I've lived in Engerland for 15-odd years now though.

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I'm in Brooklyn right now, sitting outside a coffee shop, and about 15 metres away some large woman (22-25st?) has just started to lay into a small man (~10st or less) for no reason I can see. Completely bizarre! I can hear the police coming (we're right by the main Brooklyn NYPD building, and all the courts, etc.). Truly surreal.

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I swear, I am not making this up:

"I'm leaving this forum because of Matt Dillahunty... The truth is, I'm crying as I write this..." http://t.co/wMeajCXF (trigger warning: link to A+ forum)

What, are these people all eight or something?
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Git wrote:I swear, I am not making this up:

"I'm leaving this forum because of Matt Dillahunty... The truth is, I'm crying as I write this..." http://t.co/wMeajCXF (trigger warning: link to A+ forum)

What, are these people all eight or something?
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Christ on a Crutch! Anyone here registered at A+Theism want to go and invite the victim to become a Pitter?

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Dilurk wrote: I'm very tempted to suggest the Streisland effect be used to publish her damn address all over the forking Internet. If this information is correct you live in an apartment building with some security at the front door unlike me who owns a house.
If that information is correct, she lives in an apartment complex where the rents varies between $2000 and $3000 a month. For the innumerate, that works out to approximately $24,000 to $36,000 a year.

If you look at Table 701 in the linked file you will see that the median income of her country mates in 2009 was $32,184. Granted, LA is an expensive place to live. But to pay a level of rent that approaches what the median American worker grosses for a year is more than a little privileged.

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Spence wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:I think the non-youtubing bloggers have only just discovered the dmca as a way to silence others. They have no idea what fair use is, and obviously no idea at all that you have fought some well known (on yt anyways) dmca's. Venomfangx was hilarious when having to apologize on camera as part of the settlement in your favour after the shit he caused with his false dmca's. Would I ever love to see Amy have to do the same sort of thing. :lol:
I remember when that was kicking off (as I had only just watched the "why do people laugh at creationists" series shortly beforehand). I was kind of convinced that the apology video would not see the light of day, but clearly tf00t made sure it happened, but the fact that venomfangx went through with it shows some integrity on his part as well.

I would bet dollars to donuts (or pounds to peanuts for the UK side) that Amy would not have the integrity to make such an apology. And if my side of the bet is right, that would mean Amy has LESS integrity than PCS.
Is PCS Venomfangx's name? Or does it stand for creationists or something? I'm bad with acronyms sometimes. But yeah, Amy and those of similar ilk would never acknowledge doing wrong and then in a serious manner, apologize. I believe that Venomfangx also agreed to stay off of youtube for a year (or was it 2 yrs?). :)

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Lsuoma wrote:I'm in Brooklyn right now, sitting outside a coffee shop, and about 15 metres away some large woman (22-25st?) has just started to lay into a small man (~10st or less) for no reason I can see. Completely bizarre! I can hear the police coming (we're right by the main Brooklyn NYPD building, and all the courts, etc.). Truly surreal.
Maybe he called her a fat cunt?

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Git wrote:I swear, I am not making this up:

"I'm leaving this forum because of Matt Dillahunty... The truth is, I'm crying as I write this..." http://t.co/wMeajCXF (trigger warning: link to A+ forum)

What, are these people all eight or something?
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This is a bandwagon and it will be jumped upon. I bet you this turns into the "I am more offended by this that you are" Olympics.

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Scented Nectar wrote:
Spence wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:I think the non-youtubing bloggers have only just discovered the dmca as a way to silence others. They have no idea what fair use is, and obviously no idea at all that you have fought some well known (on yt anyways) dmca's. Venomfangx was hilarious when having to apologize on camera as part of the settlement in your favour after the shit he caused with his false dmca's. Would I ever love to see Amy have to do the same sort of thing. :lol:
I remember when that was kicking off (as I had only just watched the "why do people laugh at creationists" series shortly beforehand). I was kind of convinced that the apology video would not see the light of day, but clearly tf00t made sure it happened, but the fact that venomfangx went through with it shows some integrity on his part as well.

I would bet dollars to donuts (or pounds to peanuts for the UK side) that Amy would not have the integrity to make such an apology. And if my side of the bet is right, that would mean Amy has LESS integrity than PCS.
Is PCS Venomfangx's name? Or does it stand for creationists or something? I'm bad with acronyms sometimes. But yeah, Amy and those of similar ilk would never acknowledge doing wrong and then in a serious manner, apologize. I believe that Venomfangx also agreed to stay off of youtube for a year (or was it 2 yrs?). :)
Posterboy for Creationist Stupidity: it's Thunderf00t's moniker for him.

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Scented Nectar wrote:
Spence wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:I think the non-youtubing bloggers have only just discovered the dmca as a way to silence others. They have no idea what fair use is, and obviously no idea at all that you have fought some well known (on yt anyways) dmca's. Venomfangx was hilarious when having to apologize on camera as part of the settlement in your favour after the shit he caused with his false dmca's. Would I ever love to see Amy have to do the same sort of thing. :lol:
I remember when that was kicking off (as I had only just watched the "why do people laugh at creationists" series shortly beforehand). I was kind of convinced that the apology video would not see the light of day, but clearly tf00t made sure it happened, but the fact that venomfangx went through with it shows some integrity on his part as well.

I would bet dollars to donuts (or pounds to peanuts for the UK side) that Amy would not have the integrity to make such an apology. And if my side of the bet is right, that would mean Amy has LESS integrity than PCS.
Is PCS Venomfangx's name? Or does it stand for creationists or something? I'm bad with acronyms sometimes. But yeah, Amy and those of similar ilk would never acknowledge doing wrong and then in a serious manner, apologize. I believe that Venomfangx also agreed to stay off of youtube for a year (or was it 2 yrs?). :)
IIRC It's Posterboy for Creationist Stupidity

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