Re: Periodic Table of Swearing
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:00 pm
What the fuck does that even mean?the impact of YOU getting a rape threat is different than a woman getting one
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What the fuck does that even mean?the impact of YOU getting a rape threat is different than a woman getting one
How to disable gif animations.sacha wrote:I have AdBlock Plus, smilies are disabled and won't show as an image, but I still have the fucking flashing images!
Thanks, Decius, and thanks to everyone else who expressed sympathy. She became a very, very important part of my life when it was falling apart big-time about a decade and a half ago, and I know the feeling of loss will never go away, but it was the right thing for me to do to relieve her sufferings.decius wrote:LSuoma, sorry about your mare.
I assume you're talking about the smilies - I can always turn them off if people abuse them...Azatoth, you're a fucking moron.
Yes, no one appreciates being flashed.decius wrote:Just about the flashy thing. It's the equivalent of someone farting in an elevator or refusing an offer for a late night coffee.
Well, he is the fastest man alive, so it'd be over before you noticed. :whistle:Dilurk wrote:Yes, no one appreciates being flashed.decius wrote:Just about the flashy thing. It's the equivalent of someone farting in an elevator or refusing an offer for a late night coffee.
Are you really surprised? I'm not.real horrorshow wrote:Well that didn't last:
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They're being kept in a super-secret location, being looked at by "top people". Top people.Skeeve wrote:Would someone please link me these documented threats?
I have yet to see anything other than "I get emails".
Lsuoma wrote:Are you really surprised? I'm not.real horrorshow wrote:Well that didn't last:
Not in the least. There are no credible rape threats or She'd have been round to the cozzers, pronto...
The burden is on the people claiming the "literal threats of rape and murder" exist (from secularist to secularist). Anyway, let's assume this isn't the case for some reason. What's so difficult about her linking what is apparently so easy to find? How does one even go about Googling this anyway? BANNED FOR ASKING A QUESTION.real horrorshow wrote:Well that didn't last:
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While it's frustrating that complaints are sometimes greeted with excessive skepticism and even sexist rage, it's certainly not true that everyone should take every complaint at face value. Sometimes people actually do exaggerate, misread situations, judge them by inappropriate standards, etc. Sometimes it's ambiguous or debatable what qualifies as appropriate behavior in a certain situation.
Ahh, I misspelled.justinvacula wrote:From Jean Zazez (as was previously mentioned). Will she be the next 'witch of the week?' From what I recall, Watson and co. haven't even engaged with her arguments yet on their blogs. Why is that? Perhaps they just want to repeat the 'all dissent is trolling narrative' and not answer real questions from honest dissenters?
While it's frustrating that complaints are sometimes greeted with excessive skepticism and even sexist rage, it's certainly not true that everyone should take every complaint at face value. Sometimes people actually do exaggerate, misread situations, judge them by inappropriate standards, etc. Sometimes it's ambiguous or debatable what qualifies as appropriate behavior in a certain situation.
In a way, horror was actually banned for questioning the narrative. He dared to question that, in the form of asking for some evidence. Which is clearly verbotten. Get on your coffee shirt, Horror.justinvacula wrote:
The burden is on the people claiming the "literal threats of rape and murder" exist (from secularist to secularist). Anyway, let's assume this isn't the case for some reason. What's so difficult about her linking what is apparently so easy to find? How does one even go about Googling this anyway? BANNED FOR ASKING A QUESTION.
The origin of the quoted passage complaining about sexismjustinvacula wrote:Ahh, I misspelled.justinvacula wrote:From Jean Zazez (as was previously mentioned). Will she be the next 'witch of the week?' From what I recall, Watson and co. haven't even engaged with her arguments yet on their blogs. Why is that? Perhaps they just want to repeat the 'all dissent is trolling narrative' and not answer real questions from honest dissenters?
While it's frustrating that complaints are sometimes greeted with excessive skepticism and even sexist rage, it's certainly not true that everyone should take every complaint at face value. Sometimes people actually do exaggerate, misread situations, judge them by inappropriate standards, etc. Sometimes it's ambiguous or debatable what qualifies as appropriate behavior in a certain situation.
Anyway, I think Ophelia and Kazez had some back-and-forth in comments, but I don't recall seeing blog posts about the issue. Enlighten me if I am mistaken.
He should be glad that Twatson has no real power, otherwise he would be in gaol or dead. Such a questioning is entirely analogous to religious heresy.justinvacula wrote:BANNED FOR ASKING A QUESTION.
Heresy, derives of course, from the Greek haeresis, meaning choice, effectively choosing not to believe "facts" decreed to be true, and which do not need the support of facts.Lsuoma wrote:He should be glad that Twatson has no real power, otherwise he would be in gaol or dead. Such a questioning is entirely analogous to religious heresy.justinvacula wrote:BANNED FOR ASKING A QUESTION.
Apparently, asking why threats weren't reported to the police is 'victim blaming.' Apparently, women who are recipients of "literal threats of rape and murder" should just be passive and not report threats to authorities? Asking why "literal threats of rape and murder" are not reported to police is a damn good question. Wouldn't we expect this if these "literal threats of rape and murder" were so prevalent and such a problem that men from the skeptical/atheist communities are being asked to take a stand against it? Apparently, the police just shouldn't get involved and we should just write strongly-worded letters expressive disapproval...because that's the way to change things.real horrorshow wrote:Well that didn't last:
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My emphasis. Round and round and round we go....Convincing people does happen. It may even happen sometimes in online spaces where everyone is very nice and refrains from any naming and shaming in conversation. I don’t know. I see very few of those places. Though they’re often touted as the ideal, they are far more rare than they think they are. The ones I do see have a far more restricted commentariat than we get around these parts.
Smeh?The ability to intellectualize an argument is another form of privilege. I wish more people would realize that.
In my opinion, the day that TidyBowl actually understands principals of rhetoric is the day the world ends.Ethos, pathos and logos. Without all three, your argument is hamstrung by design.
Huh?The crucial “privilege†that comes into play when discussing social justice issues is the privilege of not being in pain right at the the very beginning of the discussion.
LOL.All that aside, it’s still his space and it’s his right to create the environment he desires. I do not take issue with his attempt to build the environment he wants at all. I just worry that the environment he says he desires (one that is safe, civil and respectful) and the environment he’s creating (one that feels emotionally repressive on issues are charged by their very nature) are two different things.
/scratches headStrictly policing the use of heated emotional language used in discussing human social interactions is dehumanizing, in that it treats the discussion like some sort of abstract philosophical word game with little actual meaning. By contrast, the use of emotional language including insults, including calling people assholes, is ultimately humanizing. It says “I am a person, and you’re a person, and you’re being a bad person by hurting me, by minimizing me, by attacking me or trying to muzzle me.†Especially for people who are marginalized by society, it is important to be able to stand up and call out people when they are being assholes.
The descent into pomo never stops...John Greg wrote: /scratches head
The entertainment never really ends.
Someone somewhere - I forget which post mentioned it, sorry - said that there were two FftB parody sites. I know the Freethoughtblahgs one. Maybe this is the other one. They've been doing a grand parody of a real site that we just can't see. The whole thing is one huge poe!Lsuoma wrote:The descent into pomo never stops...John Greg wrote: /scratches head
The entertainment never really ends.
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
It's because Orwell quite clearly describesJohn Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
I do not know what to say.
Mindlessness is rampant.... interesting, but they’re not good. (I would say the same about Aldous Huxley. I frequently try to read him again, and always fail, because the writing is so crude.)
Nonsense. She clearly realized he was writing non-fiction and not fiction. It's all so clear.Lsuoma wrote:It's because Orwell quite clearly describesJohn Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
I do not know what to say.Orwellia'sOphelia's stock in trade, which she hoped that nobody would notice...
hahaha!Badger3k wrote:Mighty nice Skeeve you have. Shame if something happened to 'I'm....sacha wrote: cheers, Skeeve, gone.
Ophelia replied:I see your point about Orwell, though 1984 was a brilliant essay.
Huh? WTF?Chris, yes – and more of an essay than a novel.
Will it last?"Well that's a load of fuckin old bolloocks rith there.Not a very good movelist, I always thgought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same.
well I couldn't let that pass (fuming):John Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
I do not know what to say.
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It was hard to pick one, but that has to be my favourite. The ability to know what you're talking about is cheating, because it gives you an advantage over those who don't. Is this a Poe? Is stakkalee a Pit Crew member in disguise, because this is so close to a piss-take I'm not sure I could spot the difference.John Greg wrote:
stakkalee said:
The ability to intellectualize an argument is another form of privilege. I wish more people would realize that.
News flash: You are part of the leisured class ... you and all your FfTBuddies who fly all over the planet to attend meetings that serve primarily to provide you with more blog and Twitter fodder. It's not work. You're not working, and your only social justice "activism" is completely self-serving. It's not the fucking Arab Spring. You're not in any danger. You're not even experiencing any discomfort, as far as I can tell. Lying sanctimonious liars. Fuck off.It’s going to be accompanied by a lot of work to change the world more quickly, though. I won’t be leisurely about that. I won’t be unemotional. I won’t hide what it costs me. I will weigh the relative merits of being inclusive and getting things done for any given action as I go.
And nobody gets to tell me that I should stop doing any of that in order to focus on educating the leisure class.
The general philosophy these idiots seem to espousing, or at lest moving towards, is very much the paranoid (non-clinical, as is made clear if you read the books) mindset described by Richard Hofstadter in The Paranoid Style in American Politics, in which he describes the Goldwater movement of the early '60s.real horrorshow wrote:It was hard to pick one, but that has to be my favourite. The ability to know what you're talking about is cheating, because it gives you an advantage over those who don't. Is this a Poe? Is stakkalee a Pit Crew member in disguise, because this is so close to a piss-take I'm not sure I could spot the difference.John Greg wrote:
stakkalee said:
The ability to intellectualize an argument is another form of privilege. I wish more people would realize that.
If nothing else, then this one opinion serves to show what an utter moron Ophelia Benson is. Sure, she doesn't have to like any of Orwell's novels, but given the esteem and influence of these novels - in particular Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-Four - over his essays (though I admit, The Road to Wigan Pier is a standout as an essay, especially in the bleak humour of his description of life in the Brookers' lodging house), she is very, very much mistaken in her assertion that he was a better essayist than novelist.John Greg wrote:Tigzy said:
Will it last?"Well that's a load of fuckin old bolloocks rith there.Not a very good movelist, I always thgought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same.
Ah, it's gone already. Why am I not suprised...Tigzy wrote:well I couldn't let that pass (fuming):John Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
I do not know what to say.
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Quite beyond the pale, as far as I'm concerned!
<pedant>Tigzy wrote:The Road to Wigan Pier is a standout as an essay, especially in the bleak humour of his description of life in the Brookers' lodging house), she is very, very much mistaken in her assertion that he was a better essayist than novelist.
They're all into lit crit on Skepchick too:Tigzy wrote:well I couldn't let that pass (fuming):
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Quite beyond the pale, as far as I'm concerned!
Sorry about not posting much but ftb are now dead to me. Though on my facebook wall Matt Dillahunty was calling ThunderfOOt a dishonest prick and threatening to start blocking people who disagreed with him. WTF if you behave like a creationist then you are a creationist in my book. :doh:
So now she's a literary critic?John Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
I do not know what to say.
which Skepchick post is this from?I wonder how he knew I was being unironic? Maybe because what happens to Alex is so enviable that anyone would want to follow in his footsteps? Or is it that his dash round the interwebs looking for stuff on a book he knows fuck-all about didn't include a plot summary?
Well, to be fair, the proles read Orwell and Huxley. In public school, even. Which means it is far too pedestrian for real intellectuals to take seriously.John Greg wrote:It gets worse. She also describes Orwell's fictional works as:
Mindlessness is rampant.... interesting, but they’re not good. (I would say the same about Aldous Huxley. I frequently try to read him again, and always fail, because the writing is so crude.)
Cheers, Lsuoma. I can deal with the emoticons as long as they don't move or flash. I actually like the one with the big eyes that basically stands for WTF (named "shocked"). I don't completely want to remove .gifs, but for me, I suppose it is better than the alternative.Lsuoma wrote:How to disable gif animations.sacha wrote:I have AdBlock Plus, smilies are disabled and won't show as an image, but I still have the fucking flashing images!
Ah, I heard he was on the loose again. Guess it was just a matter of time before he came here.sacha wrote:xjustos... Hello Mabus!
Yep. Googling for this finds a lot of hits for posting on Zinnia Jones and a couple of other FfTBlogs, but the comments are no longer there.Tigzy wrote:Ah, I heard he was on the loose again. Guess it was just a matter of time before he came here.sacha wrote:xjustos... Hello Mabus!
