Jadehawk:
Salty Current:my thesis, should I ever write one someday, will be dedicated (or blamed on) the Pharyngula Horde; it’s their fault after all.
Cunts.And you will (write one).
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Salty Current:my thesis, should I ever write one someday, will be dedicated (or blamed on) the Pharyngula Horde; it’s their fault after all.
Cunts.And you will (write one).
Sorry, but I fail to see how that qualifies them as cunts … looks at most like a sardonic comment by Jadehawk ….ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:You didn't need it, but here's proof that two of the FfTB regulars are utter cunts.
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Steersman wrote:Sorry, but I fail to see how that qualifies them as cunts … looks at most like a sardonic comment by Jadehawk ….ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:You didn't need it, but here's proof that two of the FfTB regulars are utter cunts.
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Have you read much of FfTB? Cunts like Jadehawk and SC don't do sardonic. Xe is absolutely serious in xir assertion that xe would like to dedicate xir imaginary doctorate to The Horde (Meyers's band of merry muckwits).Steersman wrote:Sorry, but I fail to see how that qualifies them as cunts … looks at most like a sardonic comment by Jadehawk ….ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:You didn't need it, but here's proof that two of the FfTB regulars are utter cunts.
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Just copy someone else's speech on this subject.Tristan wrote:Mini, off-topic rant. I currently find myself having to put together an impromptu lecture on plagiarism for a Master's level class,
Far too much; my psychiatrist is recommending a 12-step withdrawal program ….ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Have you read much of FfTB?Steersman wrote:Sorry, but I fail to see how that qualifies them as cunts … looks at most like a sardonic comment by Jadehawk ….ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:You didn't need it, but here's proof that two of the FfTB regulars are utter cunts.
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Most of them seem to be a humourless bunch most of the time, but even the phrase – The Horde – is so obviously hyperbolic – exaggeration to ridicule in this case or to mock those who criticize the Pharyngulities for “group-think†– that I can’t see it not being sardonic.Cunts like Jadehawk and SC don't do sardonic.
Heh. Don't tempt me.Michael K Gray wrote:Just copy someone else's speech on this subject.Tristan wrote:Mini, off-topic rant. I currently find myself having to put together an impromptu lecture on plagiarism for a Master's level class,
That should get the point across with a healthy dose of Fe-y.
My bolding.has something of a political hold over the organizations it is supposed to represent. Whoever is calling the shots at SCA is either not paying attention or worse, paying close attention.
Tristan wrote:Heh. Don't tempt me.Michael K Gray wrote:Just copy someone else's speech on this subject.Tristan wrote:Mini, off-topic rant. I currently find myself having to put together an impromptu lecture on plagiarism for a Master's level class,
That should get the point across with a healthy dose of Fe-y.
*snigger* So I assume Greg would prefer the person calling the shots at the SCA to pay some attention but not too much? Ok Greg, got it....John Greg wrote:I always have fun reading Laden when he's working so effectively at proving how incredibly stupid he really is. I mean, c'mon now, he doesn't really have a PhD does he? Could anyone be so stupid and earn a PhD without buying it from the back of a comic book or the middens in the trailer park?
Anyway, Greggy's mad about people calling the shots at the SCA, and he wants us to know about it. He trumpets that the problem is that the SCA ...
My bolding.has something of a political hold over the organizations it is supposed to represent. Whoever is calling the shots at SCA is either not paying attention or worse, paying close attention.
HAHAHAHAHA
The man is as stupid as a dead frog. No wonder Stefunny makes soup in her shorts for him.
Urk.John Greg wrote:The man is as stupid as a dead frog. No wonder Stefunny makes soup in her shorts for him.
MKG's idea is actually a pretty good one for the start of a lecture on plagiarism.Tristan wrote:Heh. Don't tempt me.Michael K Gray wrote:Just copy someone else's speech on this subject.Tristan wrote:Mini, off-topic rant. I currently find myself having to put together an impromptu lecture on plagiarism for a Master's level class,
That should get the point across with a healthy dose of Fe-y.
Strange.oolon** wrote: For example someone above saysin much the same way as I see on here... that fucking Crommunist...same with Twatson, bint, bitch. Even...... that cunt Rebecca/Ophelia/Zvan...... that faggot Josh...
That was what I said!Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:And MKG is an expert on plagiarism...
Absolutely correct. The advanced search returns 28 instances of "faggot", and none is used against anyone, except your "exemple*", Oolon.Dick Strawkins wrote:Strange.oolon** wrote: For example someone above saysin much the same way as I see on here... that fucking Crommunist...same with Twatson, bint, bitch. Even...... that cunt Rebecca/Ophelia/Zvan...... that faggot Josh...
When I typed "that faggot josh" into the search box it only came up with a single hit.
All the other references were descriptions of the term as a pejorative or as sarcastic comments rather than insults.
Perhaps I've missed some use of the term but searching the forum certainly doesn't reveal a frequent use of the term so I don't think it is reasonable to try to tar the rest of us as condoning its use as a pejorative.
Just one person has used the term faggot in that way.
I've saved his quote in my signature in case any passing baboons want to know his identity.
Do you ever wonder whether your pathetic trolling might ever turn around and bite you in the ass?
I'm going to lead off by trying to get them thinking about why they're at university in the first place. Point out that the piece of paper they get at the end might help them get into an entry level job - but unless they demonstrate the ability to pick up, learn, understand and apply new information that that piece of paper is supposed to represent... well, they won't be moving up far or fast. And that fancy degree won't help very much when it's 10-15 years old and they're hunting for a new entry-level job after losing the old one due to incompetence.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:MKG's idea is actually a pretty good one for the start of a lecture on plagiarism.Tristan wrote:Heh. Don't tempt me.Michael K Gray wrote:Just copy someone else's speech on this subject.Tristan wrote:Mini, off-topic rant. I currently find myself having to put together an impromptu lecture on plagiarism for a Master's level class,
That should get the point across with a healthy dose of Fe-y.
And MKG is an expert on plagiarism... :D (sorry 'bout the smiley, but I feared my joke would be too cryptic. 'Twas a couple of days ago, after all)
Here is my own original take on the subject:Tristan wrote:
*snip*
I'm going to lead off by trying to get them thinking about why they're at university in the first place. Point out that the piece of paper they get at the end might help them get into an entry level job - but unless they demonstrate the ability to pick up, learn, understand and apply new information that that piece of paper is supposed to represent... well, they won't be moving up far or fast. And that fancy degree won't help very much when it's 10-15 years old and they're hunting for a new entry-level job after losing the old one due to incompetence.
Sad fact is, it's pretty easy to get away with plagiarism. The trick is to get them to understand that they're only screwing themselves.
Most of us are from the Commonwealth where cunt, twat, dick etc aren't misogynistic, just good old fashioned and excellent abuse. You merkins really need to stop with all this neo-puritan bollocks, seriously.oolon** wrote:when you justify misogynistic and homophobic slurs as only being words?
Spot on, champ.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:The modern concept of plagiarism as immoral and originality as an ideal emerged in Europe only in the 18th century, particularly with the Romantic movement, while in the previous centuries authors and artists were encouraged to "copy the masters as closely as possible" and avoid "unnecessary invention."
Lucky you said "most of us", Git. You Pommies have not concquered us (yet?)! Try Normandy again (not talking about D-Day here, look farther back in history), might work this time. I'd love to have Tesco and Cornwall Pasty in my part of the country too, so go all the way to Nice...Git wrote:Most of us are from the Commonwealth where cunt, twat, dick etc aren't misogynistic, just good old fashioned and excellent abuse. You merkins really need to stop with all this neo-puritan bollocks, seriously.oolon** wrote:when you justify misogynistic and homophobic slurs as only being words?
tOolong is just a slimy back-stabbing fraud, as is dawning on others after this time.Git wrote:Most of us are from the Commonwealth where cunt, twat, dick etc aren't misogynistic, just good old fashioned and excellent abuse. You merkins really need to stop with all this neo-puritan bollocks, seriously.oolon** wrote:when you justify misogynistic and homophobic slurs as only being words?
After Norway's Supreme Court decided my blog is legal, a chorus of feminist pundits opined that the law needs to be changed in order to punish me and other bloggers who express opinions online that would be defined as criminal incitement under the Penal Code of 1902 §140 if they were expressed in print media. The cops went so far as claiming they may charge me again under the new law unless I delete whatever offensive statements from my blog they tried and failed to prosecute me for already.
For realzies. Currently halfway through the first one on the topic of Dillahunty's sock-puppetry in the A+Theism forum.masakari2012 wrote:Justicar is kicking ass on youtube! Check out his latest videos.
APA is shit. I had the joys of learning it myself to teach students. I despise APA.JackRayner wrote:I am of the opinion that properly attributing work wouldn't be such an issue if we didn't need a fucking manual to figure it out! :x
(Can you tell that I'm a college student that's just about had it with the fucking APA format? It's like every new paper that I write ends up sending me back to try and figure out exactly how cite some strange source....)
That's sounds horrible. The only other citation style I've even heard of is MLA, but my school treats it like a plague anytime that some poor bastard that's familiar with it asks if they can just use it instead of APA.Sulaco wrote:APA is shit. I had the joys of learning it myself to teach students. I despise APA.JackRayner wrote:I am of the opinion that properly attributing work wouldn't be such an issue if we didn't need a fucking manual to figure it out! :x
(Can you tell that I'm a college student that's just about had it with the fucking APA format? It's like every new paper that I write ends up sending me back to try and figure out exactly how cite some strange source....)
In CA, community colleges are all MLA and four year universities are all APA. Sometimes my state is an asshole.JackRayner wrote:That's sounds horrible. The only other citation style I've even heard of is MLA, but my school treats it like a plague anytime that some poor bastard that's familiar with it asks if they can just use it instead of APA.Sulaco wrote:APA is shit. I had the joys of learning it myself to teach students. I despise APA.JackRayner wrote:I am of the opinion that properly attributing work wouldn't be such an issue if we didn't need a fucking manual to figure it out! :x
(Can you tell that I'm a college student that's just about had it with the fucking APA format? It's like every new paper that I write ends up sending me back to try and figure out exactly how cite some strange source....)
Well hell, with that attitude it's no wonder the sciences didn't do so well. One of the problems I have to deal with is that some of my students come from backgrounds where this is true today - in fact, copying is considered to be the highest possible compliment that can be paid to a person's work.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:The modern concept of plagiarism as immoral and originality as an ideal emerged in Europe only in the 18th century, particularly with the Romantic movement, while in the previous centuries authors and artists were encouraged to "copy the masters as closely as possible" and avoid "unnecessary invention."
I don't tend to use the word "cunt" but, having lived in the UK for a while I understand that it's meaning in working class speech is pretty much the same as "dick".Tony Parsehole wrote: I don't see cunt, twat and bitch as being misogynist or offensive to the vast majority of women in general.
Well, the mod is right. I mean, if you had been murdered instead of being raped, you wouldn't be bitching about it on ze interwebz, right?SPACKlick wrote:Just managed to get banned over at A+ for suggesting to a mod that him determining I should feel my rape was worse than if I had been murdered was offensive.
Hypocrites left right and centre.
You win this thread! And ow me a new screen and keyboard...If a woman asked a British guy to lick her twat, his first thought would probably be: "She has an idiot she wants me to lick?"
No, a cunt is worse than a dick. A dick has just annoed you a cunt was annoying to the point of malice.Dick Strawkins wrote:I don't tend to use the word "cunt" but, having lived in the UK for a while I understand that it's meaning in working class speech is pretty much the same as "dick".
Again, I'd say you've slightly underplayed it. Twat can be used affectionately where it is no worse than idiot but if I screamed in your face "how could you, you idiot?" and "how could you, you twat" I'm clearly trying to level more offense with the second.I do use the word "twat", which in UK speak, is a much milder term of abuse. It's about the equivalent of "idiot".
Seems to be regional, plenty of people knew it when I lived in one part of the south, none in another and the same across four parts of the north (2 & 2). some of the girls would talk about masturbation as twat slapping.In fact I would guess that very few UK people would automatically link the word "twat" with a vagina.
Perhaps there is some regional variation in the use of these terms but I've certainly mixed with people who used "cunt" as a rough term of affection for their friends (as in "what will you cunts have to drink?")whereas the same people would only use "dick" as an insult.SPACKlick wrote:No, a cunt is worse than a dick. A dick has just annoed you a cunt was annoying to the point of malice.Dick Strawkins wrote:I don't tend to use the word "cunt" but, having lived in the UK for a while I understand that it's meaning in working class speech is pretty much the same as "dick".
Again, I'd say you've slightly underplayed it. Twat can be used affectionately where it is no worse than idiot but if I screamed in your face "how could you, you idiot?" and "how could you, you twat" I'm clearly trying to level more offense with the second.I do use the word "twat", which in UK speak, is a much milder term of abuse. It's about the equivalent of "idiot".
Seems to be regional, plenty of people knew it when I lived in one part of the south, none in another and the same across four parts of the north (2 & 2). some of the girls would talk about masturbation as twat slapping.In fact I would guess that very few UK people would automatically link the word "twat" with a vagina.
Yes, used like that "twat" is generally seen as a stronger word than "idiot" - but I suspect not a stronger insult than "prick","dick", "cock", "knobend" or various other entries from the same section of Rogers Profanisaurus.Again, I'd say you've slightly underplayed it. Twat can be used affectionately where it is no worse than idiot but if I screamed in your face "how could you, you idiot?" and "how could you, you twat" I'm clearly trying to level more offense with the second.
It seems to be needed. I don't think they are learning this in the earlier grades anymore. Or maybe they just don't think it's all that important? I personally like to know WHO has really written the things I read. And I'm all for quoting, but it needs to be clear that it's a quote, and it should be attributed to the author or website, etc, and if the quote IS the whole page, then the attribution should be at the top so that people see from the start that it isn't by the person who runs the blog, writes the paper, or whatever else. A good thing I see on blogs quite often, is a title highlighted in yellow, which says this is a guest post by whoever.Tristan wrote:Mini, off-topic rant. I currently find myself having to put together an impromptu lecture on plagiarism for a Master's level class, half of whom are older than I am. Apparently saying "don't plagiarize or else" isn't enough any more - because even at this level a substantial fraction of people don't actually know what plagiarism is. Heck, apparently in some cultural backgrounds copying someone else's work is considered the highest form of flattery.
Blargh. Feels like the sort of stuff I should be giving to a class of ten-year-olds.
If it were true that being murdered is preferable to living after having been raped, wouldn't all or most raped women be dead now from suicide, since it sounds like they think that death is better than any kind of living with a memory of having been raped?SPACKlick wrote:Just managed to get banned over at A+ for suggesting to a mod that him determining I should feel my rape was worse than if I had been murdered was offensive.
Hypocrites left right and centre.
Great Minds: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=166Scented Nectar wrote:If it were true that being murdered is preferable to living after having been raped, wouldn't all or most raped women be dead now from suicide, since it sounds like they think that death is better than any kind of living with a memory of having been raped?
Why single out raped women?Scented Nectar wrote:If it were true that being murdered is preferable to living after having been raped, wouldn't all or most raped women be dead now from suicide, since it sounds like they think that death is better than any kind of living with a memory of having been raped?SPACKlick wrote:Just managed to get banned over at A+ for suggesting to a mod that him determining I should feel my rape was worse than if I had been murdered was offensive.
Hypocrites left right and centre.
But in sydney anyway... a twat is a word bogans use to mean vagina.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Dick:
You win this thread! And ow me a new screen and keyboard...If a woman asked a British guy to lick her twat, his first thought would probably be: "She has an idiot she wants me to lick?"
Because only women get raped, didn't you know?Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Why single out raped women?Scented Nectar wrote:If it were true that being murdered is preferable to living after having been raped, wouldn't all or most raped women be dead now from suicide, since it sounds like they think that death is better than any kind of living with a memory of having been raped?SPACKlick wrote:Just managed to get banned over at A+ for suggesting to a mod that him determining I should feel my rape was worse than if I had been murdered was offensive.
Hypocrites left right and centre.
Because communicating via the internet means you never know whether other readers are accustomed to thinking like this, I always avoid using the word "cunt" (well, apart from just there!)TheMan wrote:
Just asked about "Cunt" and her views on the use of the word is pretty hardcore. Basically... it's always a mysoginistic slur.
Working class North East England here and I can safely say cunt usually means the same as bastard, an unpleasant person but we use it affectionately too as in "cheeky cunt" or "clever cunt" respectively. It's one of those words that just get used by everyone all the time. Dick is usually reserved for genuine idiots or annoying people. I couldn't imagine calling a friend a dick unless he did something...Errrr....Dickish.Dick Strawkins wrote:I don't tend to use the word "cunt" but, having lived in the UK for a while I understand that it's meaning in working class speech is pretty much the same as "dick".Tony Parsehole wrote: I don't see cunt, twat and bitch as being misogynist or offensive to the vast majority of women in general.
I do use the word "twat", which in UK speak, is a much milder term of abuse. It's about the equivalent of "idiot".
In fact I would guess that very few UK people would automatically link the word "twat" with a vagina. If a woman asked a British guy to lick her twat, his first thought would probably be: "She has an idiot she wants me to lick?"
Besides, "twat" is a Rebecca Watson approved insult, as demonstrated by her recent use of the term to insult Bob Novella on the Skeptics Guide to the Universe.
If RW can call people 'twats', then why can't we...
I was thinking/arguing in terms of what they would think if the murder premise is true, and with them it's always the female victims who they argue about, so that's who I used as an example. Bringing up men getting raped would sidetrack from the murder comparison over to excuses why women being raped is always worse than for men. Even when you get them to acknowledge that it happens to men too, they come back with a magical it harms women more than men. Some even say shit like men should get raped for their own medicine, yet they wish this not on rapists, but any/all men as being responsible for other men's rapes.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Why single out raped women?Scented Nectar wrote:If it were true that being murdered is preferable to living after having been raped, wouldn't all or most raped women be dead now from suicide, since it sounds like they think that death is better than any kind of living with a memory of having been raped?SPACKlick wrote:Just managed to get banned over at A+ for suggesting to a mod that him determining I should feel my rape was worse than if I had been murdered was offensive.
Hypocrites left right and centre.
Mind you, I was talking here, even though I was arguing towards the banning they did over there.Scented Nectar wrote:I was thinking/arguing in terms of what they would think if the murder premise is true, and with them it's always the female victims who they argue about, so that's who I used as an example. Bringing up men getting raped would sidetrack from the murder comparison over to excuses why women being raped is always worse than for men. Even when you get them to acknowledge that it happens to men too, they come back with a magical it harms women more than men. Some even say shit like men should get raped for their own medicine, yet they wish this not on rapists, but any/all men as being responsible for other men's rapes.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Why single out raped women?Scented Nectar wrote:If it were true that being murdered is preferable to living after having been raped, wouldn't all or most raped women be dead now from suicide, since it sounds like they think that death is better than any kind of living with a memory of having been raped?SPACKlick wrote:Just managed to get banned over at A+ for suggesting to a mod that him determining I should feel my rape was worse than if I had been murdered was offensive.
Hypocrites left right and centre.
Didn't realize that thread was there. I almost never check any thread but this one. Every couple weeks I go quickly check the others out. :)SPACKlick wrote:Great Minds: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=166Scented Nectar wrote:If it were true that being murdered is preferable to living after having been raped, wouldn't all or most raped women be dead now from suicide, since it sounds like they think that death is better than any kind of living with a memory of having been raped?
Tigzy wrote:In the UK, 'twat' can also be synonymous with beating someone up - which leads to some linguistic noveties such as: 'I'm gonna twat that cunt,' or 'hold my coat Dave*, cos I'm gonna give this prick a right twatting.'
*Why is there always a 'Dave' involved with these sorts of things?