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Post by Clarence » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:51 am

Whiskey Tango wrote:http://sciencehouse.com/static/imagegal ... lery/1.jpg http://america.aljazeera.com/content/aj ... 67.low.jpg

FAP FAP FAP!!!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1_4NKZYc6Sg/U ... G_4798.JPG http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/ ... 4i3uh0.jpg

FAPPITY FAP FAP!!!

The truth is that science and skepticism are inherently boring without attractive women with no scientific credentials explaining science to us. Don't get me wrong, Rebecca Watson is fucking hot, and my conservative estimate is that I've fapped 7,362 times to her, but every once in a while you gotta switch it up, like any kind of pr0n.

Excuse me while I go off to follow some of these leads you've given me for my research into the Serious Topic of Womyn In Science and Skepticism. :whistle:

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Post by Tony Parsehole » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:52 am

Whiskey Tango wrote:http://sciencehouse.com/static/imagegal ... lery/1.jpg
She's so cool. Most fuddy duddy science types sit on chairs to do a science but she throws the science rules out the window and sits on a desk. In jeans.
It's like Dirty Dancing but instead of pulling proscribed shapes on the dancefloor she's desking it up among test tubes and whiteboards filled with incomprehensible equations.

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#18903

Post by Tony Parsehole » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:53 am

AndrewV69 wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote: They're expecting people to warn those they are attempting to Rickroll.....

"Here is a link to a video explaining once and for all why global warming is false
(Trigger Warning: Rick Astley)"
I expected to be Rickrolled but you [meta] Rickrolled the Rickroll ... [/meta]
As ischemgeek would say: That's how I (Rick)roll.

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Post by Clarence » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:02 am

JacquesCuze wrote:
Apples wrote:Here is the description of the 'sexual assault' for which the author tried to get the dude thrown out of his dorm:
He was a friend of mine and I trusted him. It was a freezing Friday night when I stumbled into his dorm room after too many drinks. He took my shirt off and started biting the skin on my neck and breast. I pushed back on his chest and asked him to stop kissing me aggressively. He laughed. He said that I should “just wear a scarf” to cover the marks. He continued to abuse my body, hurting my breast and vagina. He asked me to use my mouth. I said no. I was intoxicated, I was in pain, I was trapped between him and the wall, and I was scared to death that he would continue to ignore what I said. I stopped everything and turned my back to him, praying he would leave me alone. He started getting impatient. “Are you only going to make me hard, or are you going to make me come?” he said in a demanding tone.

It did not sound like a question. I obeyed.

Shortly after I reported my sexual assault to my House staff, I was told by a senior member of the College administration that the Administrative Board was very unlikely to “issue a charge” against my assailant and to launch a thorough investigative process because my assailant may not have technically violated the school’s policy in the student handbook.
I read accounts like this where a young woman, drunk, is unable to say no and leave, and I'll I can think is that as a parent of girls (which I am) I would be furious and that the "coed experiment" has clearly failed and floors need proctors and policies against girls or boys in rooms, and that underage drinking should be punished by severely.

Because I know I can't blame this girl for getting so shitfaced she had to find a good place to sleep it off, or for her choice of doing that in a man's room, and for being too drunk to call other girls, or call a harvard safety escort service, or for being in his room and not being able to firmly state repeatedly no or for not slapping him and leaving.

http://i.imgur.com/1MGExe4.jpg

It's pretty obvious when reading these accounts repeatedly that young women are terrified with the physical difference in their size and that of a man's and that their hearts literally leap into their throats with fear when a man acts in any way sexually towards them.

And I just don't see any way for that to stop, at which point I think, it really is time to declare the coed experiment over, and have women go back to women's colleges, and men go back to men's colleged.

To the extent that your second-to-last paragraph has any truth to it (what, they didn't notice the big difference later in their High School years?) I'm willing to be the 30 year propaganda campaign of fear against men and sex (started with the social conservatives and rad fems in the 80's, also the height of the AIDS scare) is working as intended.

Assuming your last paragraph to be an idea, it won't fly. Not just because most women and men seem to LIKE coed institutions but because so much Title IX and other money is tied into the notion of sexually integrated student bodies(even though the sexes are assumed to be basically the same when it comes to interests and abilities).

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Post by dogen » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:02 am

Apples wrote:http://www.propublica.org/article/feds- ... imbers-die [trigger warning - Rick Astley!]
What's missing from the story (although present in an earlier 2012 version)? The word 'men'.

Clearly, Teh Patriarchy is at work here. I demand firm steps toward equality in tower deaths. How about establishing a yearly quota; on New Year's eve we can look at the balance of 'payments', and then throw an appropriate number of feminists of the top of a cell tower. This seasonal event would be known as the "Tossing of the Surlies".

(Alas, our dear friend Twatson would be ineligible for a tossing, as her teeth are too effective an air-brake. Likewise, Svanatee would bounce, and Ophie would bore gravity out of existence before she hit the ground).

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Post by Clarence » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:08 am

James Caruthers wrote:So an update to the anime discussion:

I thought Sword Art Online looked and sounded really stupid, but I gave it a shot and I'm glad I did. It looks like it'll end up being top class. Some seriously nice, quality animation, and (surprisingly) high stakes and likeable characters. It's sort of like Battle Royale or The Matrix, mixed with that online MMO shit all the kids are into nowadays.

And hey, most action anime devolved into a fucking video game script anyways, so at least they can do it proper from the first episode and then take that concept to more interesting places.
Overall, I found Sword Art (both arcs) to be enjoyable, but the first more so than the second. I was a bit disappointed in that the story was lacking a bit in the second arc, and seems to get a bit weaker toward the end of the first. That being said I think you'll like the first arc, and the second one is ok if you are into cute video game elf chicks and cliched love stories with not quite as much philosophizing.

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Post by Za-zen » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:10 am

Tony Parsehole wrote:
Whiskey Tango wrote:http://sciencehouse.com/static/imagegal ... lery/1.jpg
She's so cool. Most fuddy duddy science types sit on chairs to do a science but she throws the science rules out the window and sits on a desk. In jeans.
It's like Dirty Dancing but instead of pulling proscribed shapes on the dancefloor she's desking it up among test tubes and whiteboards filled with incomprehensible equations.
Question;

Where's Thunderf00t

Analysis;

MIA since Ana and him have been youaresogreattubing. It's funny as fuck to watch his whole body language never mind speech patterns regress to that of a teenage boy staring at the underwear section of his mums clothing catalog.

Result;

If the femtards want rid of Thnder, set up a threewaytube with him Ana and CSM. His brain will melt, and you'll never have to hear from him again, except for the odd muttering of infinity and beyond.

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#18908

Post by Clarence » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:11 am

Spike13 wrote:Yesterday

Yesterday, social justice seemed so far away
Now it looks as though it's here to stay
What the fuck happened yesterday

Suddenly, we aren't half the group we used to be
Seems we're lousy with misogyny
Don't esteem the art of poor Amy

Blitz'd, she had to go
Some chow to blow?she wouldn't say
Dude bro' said something wrong
Privilege was strong, yesterday

Yesterday, skeptic was such an easy game to play
Now the SJW's need a safe space to hide away
PZ gave them a place to play

Wrecked, she had to go
Flagged, you know,she couldn't stay
Elevator ride was too long
Like this song,now men would have to pay


Yesterday, A+ was a grade I couldn't claim
Now it's a desolate Internet stain
Jenny, hadn't flounced again and again

PZ was still a douche,Yesterday

(Fade out)
PZ was still a douche,Yesterday



Happy April fools day all,
Now I have a flooded basement to deal with, similar to slogging through FTB.
I can't sing. But clearly, your effort isn't half-bad. :clap:

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:12 am

zenbabe wrote:Ha. I see Hjornbeck is still promoting his very special theory that there is no such thing as gender.
Hj Hornbeck wrote:
I’ve looked at your link, and note:

The literature on sex differences in cognitive abilities is filled with inconsistent findings, contradictory theories, and emotional claims that are unsupported by the research. Yet despite all the noise in the data, clear and consistent messages could be heard. There are real and in some cases sizable sex differences with respect to some cognitive abilities. Socialization practices are ....
Christ! He's quoting from his youtube video again. Is Autocoprophilia a medical term?
Like Pinker, I’ve also looked at the literature, yet I come to the opposite conclusion
Yeah, I'm just like Pinker, except, instead of a PhD from Harvard, I have a bachelors in sys admin. And, instead of running my own lab at MIT, I have my own DeviantArt page. And instead of publishing several best-selling books, I wrote about playing DOOM on my big brother's computer. But where both canucks, so totes peers.

... the very notion of “sex” is problematic if taken as a “real” thing.
I do feel a certain amount of pity for someone in their mid-twenties who's still a virgin.

zenbabe wrote:I guess he should be forgiven since testostrone has clearly poisoned his grey matter very severely, leaving him crippled and maimed.
Shoulda had those streak gonads removed long ago.

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Post by Clarence » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:14 am

Za-zen wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
Whiskey Tango wrote:http://sciencehouse.com/static/imagegal ... lery/1.jpg
She's so cool. Most fuddy duddy science types sit on chairs to do a science but she throws the science rules out the window and sits on a desk. In jeans.
It's like Dirty Dancing but instead of pulling proscribed shapes on the dancefloor she's desking it up among test tubes and whiteboards filled with incomprehensible equations.
Question;

Where's Thunderf00t

Analysis;

MIA since Ana and him have been youaresogreattubing. It's funny as fuck to watch his whole body language never mind speech patterns regress to that of a teenage boy staring at the underwear section of his mums clothing catalog.

Result;

If the femtards want rid of Thnder, set up a threewaytube with him Ana and CSM. His brain will melt, and you'll never have to hear from him again, except for the odd muttering of infinity and beyond.
LOL. Thunderfoot is awesome, and provided he doesn't get totes Corrupted by Poon, I say he should get all of it he can :) I wouldn't even mind if he married one of the Awesome Science Sluts, and they spit out some Thunder Spawn. Better he breed than the retards and charlatans that make up our 'loyal opposition'.

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Post by Karmakin » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:14 am

Clarence wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:So an update to the anime discussion:

I thought Sword Art Online looked and sounded really stupid, but I gave it a shot and I'm glad I did. It looks like it'll end up being top class. Some seriously nice, quality animation, and (surprisingly) high stakes and likeable characters. It's sort of like Battle Royale or The Matrix, mixed with that online MMO shit all the kids are into nowadays.

And hey, most action anime devolved into a fucking video game script anyways, so at least they can do it proper from the first episode and then take that concept to more interesting places.
Overall, I found Sword Art (both arcs) to be enjoyable, but the first more so than the second. I was a bit disappointed in that the story was lacking a bit in the second arc, and seems to get a bit weaker toward the end of the first. That being said I think you'll like the first arc, and the second one is ok if you are into cute video game elf chicks and cliched love stories with not quite as much philosophizing.
SAO I enjoyed the first arc much more than the second arc. Just because I found the whole thing of building a strong relationship early on and then build the story around that (rather than the typical story arcs of challenging that relationship or the whole they get together in the end thing) kind of refreshing. Largely I thought that was missing from the second arc. Felt more awkward than anything.

Long story short, I enjoy Power Couples as a trope. SAO had one of the best IMO. Not something we see in nearly enough media.

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Post by Clarence » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:15 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
zenbabe wrote:Ha. I see Hjornbeck is still promoting his very special theory that there is no such thing as gender.
Hj Hornbeck wrote:
I’ve looked at your link, and note:

The literature on sex differences in cognitive abilities is filled with inconsistent findings, contradictory theories, and emotional claims that are unsupported by the research. Yet despite all the noise in the data, clear and consistent messages could be heard. There are real and in some cases sizable sex differences with respect to some cognitive abilities. Socialization practices are ....
Christ! He's quoting from his youtube video again. Is Autocoprophilia a medical term?
Like Pinker, I’ve also looked at the literature, yet I come to the opposite conclusion
Yeah, I'm just like Pinker, except, instead of a PhD from Harvard, I have a bachelors in sys admin. And, instead of running my own lab at MIT, I have my own DeviantArt page. And instead of publishing several best-selling books, I wrote about playing DOOM on my big brother's computer. But where both canucks, so totes peers.

... the very notion of “sex” is problematic if taken as a “real” thing.
I do feel a certain amount of pity for someone in their mid-twenties who's still a virgin.

zenbabe wrote:I guess he should be forgiven since testostrone has clearly poisoned his grey matter very severely, leaving him crippled and maimed.
Shoulda had those streak gonads removed long ago.
HJ is in your nightmares, isn't he?

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Post by Za-zen » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:16 am

The predicted highlights of Thunder's tubing (post threeway)

[youtube]n8KtU091sLo[/youtube]

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#18914

Post by Za-zen » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:19 am

There's edge, and then there's clarence

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Post by Za-zen » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:20 am

[youtube]n8KtU091sLo[/youtube]

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Post by Za-zen » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:21 am

Dafuq

Clarence, this one was for you

[youtube]XWemX3QjTSU[/youtube]

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Post by Badger3k » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:27 am

katamari Damassi wrote:
zenbabe wrote:Ha. I see Hjornbeck is still promoting his very special theory that there is no such thing as gender.
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31 March 2014 at 11:26 pm (UTC -5)

[OT, but it's one of my beats]

ChasCPeterson @47:
I’ve looked at your link, and note:

The literature on sex differences in cognitive abilities is filled with inconsistent findings, contradictory theories, and emotional claims that are unsupported by the research. Yet despite all the noise in the data, clear and consistent messages could be heard. There are real and in some cases sizable sex differences with respect to some cognitive abilities. Socialization practices are undoubtedly important, but there is also good evidence that biological sex differences play a role in establishing and maintaining cognitive sex differences, a conclusion I wasn’t prepared to make when I began reviewing the relevant literature.

Like Pinker, I’ve also looked at the literature, yet I come to the opposite conclusion; what few cognitive sex differences exist are within a range that can be explained by social factors, and the very notion of “sex” is problematic if taken as a “real” thing.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-776063
He included a link to this in his post: http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck ... ranscript/

I guess he should be forgiven since testostrone has clearly poisoned his grey matter very severely, leaving him crippled and maimed. It's as if he never had all those lengthy arguments trying to show him very basic realities about sex differences. True believers are spooky creatures.
This nobody just dismissed Pinker! The arrogance is amazing.
He didn't really dismiss him, just said that he is on the same level as Pinker. Or that Pinker is no better than him. All that education is just a social construct anyway, and who needs Biology when you have taken Gender Studies?

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#18918

Post by NormalityDrugTsar » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:32 am

Hello everybody. Just saw this at the end of my street this morning and thought of you:
http://i.imgur.com/l7cbIwF.jpg

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#18919

Post by Badger3k » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:32 am

Apples wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Over at Atheism+ the spirit of April Fool's Day is alive and well.
"No dangerous jokes."

dangerous.

jokes.

srsly. :(
Don't you know, per Louis, that you are not supposed to find humor funny. That jokes are dangerous is the only logical conclusion.

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#18920

Post by Git » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:33 am

Apples wrote:
Mykeru wrote:
Southern wrote:
Mykeru's cnut was fun while it lasted, but now it's too worn out to be pleasurable.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 8_2012.JPG

"I resemble that remark".
Her eyes don't exactly align - I can't quite tell whether she's looking at Git's pussy or Mykeru's cnut.
http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/621/23052.JPG

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#18921

Post by Lsuoma » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:38 am

dogen wrote:
On queue, here is the predictable follow-up casting rape-prevention initiatives as victim blaming:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2014/ ... ix-reform/
It's an April 1st joke, otherwise they wouldn't have made a bald assertion like this with no proof:
Although rare, it is possible to spend four years on this campus without personal experience of the issue of sexual assault as a survivor, ally, or friend.
Amirite?

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#18922

Post by bhoytony » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:55 am

2minutesHate wrote:
Peezus Myers Christ wrote:Well, Ed and I have been tallying up what we owe you as a final payout on your departure…which was actually a bit of a surprise. Our first comment on hearing that PhysioProffe was leaving was “Who the fucke is that? He blogs here?” But, unfortunately, as ably documented by all those complaints from Valued Members of the FtB Community, your tenure here has been so detrimental that we have discovered you owe us money.

$6,481 dollars, actually. I did not pull that number out of my ass, it’s an objective assessment of your net negative contributions.

But because I’m a nice guy, we’ll call it even if you just send me a Leica rangefinder (which, by the way, is now the standard unit of internet commerce.)
WTF would Peezus use a Leica rangefinder for? I know what i'd use it for on him. ;-)
Google "John Kwok"

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Post by dogen » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:15 am

Lsuoma wrote:
dogen wrote:
On queue, here is the predictable follow-up casting rape-prevention initiatives as victim blaming:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2014/ ... ix-reform/
It's an April 1st joke, otherwise they wouldn't have made a bald assertion like this with no proof:
Although rare, it is possible to spend four years on this campus without personal experience of the issue of sexual assault as a survivor, ally, or friend.
Amirite?
I think their comment is a lament. By arguing against any preventative/precautionary action, they're hoping "rare" will become "unheard of".

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#18924

Post by 2minutesHate » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:30 am

Angry_Drunk wrote:
2minutesHate wrote:
Peezus Myers Christ wrote:Well, Ed and I have been tallying up what we owe you as a final payout on your departure…which was actually a bit of a surprise. Our first comment on hearing that PhysioProffe was leaving was “Who the fucke is that? He blogs here?” But, unfortunately, as ably documented by all those complaints from Valued Members of the FtB Community, your tenure here has been so detrimental that we have discovered you owe us money.

$6,481 dollars, actually. I did not pull that number out of my ass, it’s an objective assessment of your net negative contributions.

But because I’m a nice guy, we’ll call it even if you just send me a Leica rangefinder (which, by the way, is now the standard unit of internet commerce.)
WTF would Peezus use a Leica rangefinder for? I know what i'd use it for on him. ;-)
What, take his picture? It's a type of camera.
No, it's a fucking lazer rangefinder you ignorant fuck.

What the fuck would PZ Myers do with a lazer rangefinder? These are most often used by hunters so they can make elevation ajustments while hunting game.

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Post by screwtape » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:32 am

katamari Damassi wrote:
zenbabe wrote:Ha. I see Hjornbeck is still promoting his very special theory that there is no such thing as gender.
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Hj Hornbeck

31 March 2014 at 11:26 pm (UTC -5)

[OT, but it's one of my beats]

ChasCPeterson @47:
I’ve looked at your link, and note:

The literature on sex differences in cognitive abilities is filled with inconsistent findings, contradictory theories, and emotional claims that are unsupported by the research. Yet despite all the noise in the data, clear and consistent messages could be heard. There are real and in some cases sizable sex differences with respect to some cognitive abilities. Socialization practices are undoubtedly important, but there is also good evidence that biological sex differences play a role in establishing and maintaining cognitive sex differences, a conclusion I wasn’t prepared to make when I began reviewing the relevant literature.

Like Pinker, I’ve also looked at the literature, yet I come to the opposite conclusion; what few cognitive sex differences exist are within a range that can be explained by social factors, and the very notion of “sex” is problematic if taken as a “real” thing.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-776063
He included a link to this in his post: http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck ... ranscript/

I guess he should be forgiven since testostrone has clearly poisoned his grey matter very severely, leaving him crippled and maimed. It's as if he never had all those lengthy arguments trying to show him very basic realities about sex differences. True believers are spooky creatures.
This nobody just dismissed Pinker! The arrogance is amazing.
In my innocence I was surprised to read this summary of the social sciences' take on the world:
Emil Durkheim, the founder of sociology, set out in 1895 his assertion that social science must assume people are blank slates on which culture writes. Since then, if anything, this idea has hardened into three cast-iron assumptions: First, anything that varies between cultures must be culturally rather than biologically acquired; second, anything that develops rather than appears fully formed at birth must also be learned; third, anything genetically determined must be inflexible.
Matt Ridley, The Red Queen, 1993.

You have to believe that to think that sex, gender and orientation are nothing more than cultural artifacts.

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#18926

Post by bhoytony » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:35 am

2minutesHate wrote:
Angry_Drunk wrote:


What, take his picture? It's a type of camera.
No, it's a fucking lazer rangefinder you ignorant fuck.

What the fuck would PZ Myers do with a lazer rangefinder? These are most often used by hunters so they can make elevation ajustments while hunting game.
Google "John Kwok", fuckwit.

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Post by Sunder » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:37 am

So I'm currently reading through Mistakes Were Made (But Not By Me), and I've finished the chapter dealing with false child abuse scares.

I think this is pretty interesting but I really like the last paragraph and think it's relevant to the SJL narrative:
For example, in an experiment with preschool children, Sena Garven and her colleagues used interview techniques that were based on the actual transcripts of interrogations of children in the McMartin case. A young man visited children at their preschool, read them a story, and handed out treats. He did nothing aggressive, inappropriate, or surprising. A week later an experimenter questioned the children about the man's visit. She asked one group leading questions, such as "Did he shove the teacher? Did he throw a crayon at a kid who was talking?" She asked a second group the same questions along with influence techniques used by the McMartin interrogators: for example, telling the children what other kids had supposedly said, expressing disappointment if answers were negative, and praising children for making allegations. In the first group, children said "yes, it happened" to about 15 percent of the false allegations about the man's visit; not a high percentage, but not a trivial number, either. In the second group, however, the three-year-olds said "yes, it happened" to over 80 percent of the false allegations suggested to them, and the four- to six-year-olds said yes to about half the allegations. And those results occurred after interviews lasting only five to ten minutes; in actual criminal investigations, interviewers often question children repeatedly over weeks and months. In a similar study, this time with five- to seven-year-olds, the investigators found they could easily influence the children to agree with preposterous questions, such as "Did Paco take you flying in an airplane?" What was more troubling was that within a short time, many of the children's inaccurate statements had crystallized into stable, but false, memories.

Research like this has enabled psychologists to improve their methods of interviewing children, so that they can help children who have been abused disclose what happened to them, but without increasing the suggestibility of children who have not been abused. The scientists have shown that very young children, under age five, often cannot tell the difference between something they were told and something that actually happened to them. If preschoolers overhear adults exchanging rumors about some event, for example, many of the children will later come to believe they actually experienced the event themselves. In all these studies, the most powerful finding is that adults are highly likely to taint an interview when they go into it already convinced that a child has been molested. When that is so, there is only one "truth" they are prepared to accept when they ask the child to tell the truth. Like Susan Kelley, they never accept the child's "no"; "no" means the child is denying or repressing or afraid to tell. The child can do nothing to convince the adult she has not been molested.

We can understand why so many Susan Kelleys, prosecutors, and parents have been quick to assume the worst; no one wants to let a child molester go free. But no one should want to contribute to the conviction of an innocent adult, either. Today, informed by years of experimental research with children, the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and some individual states, notably Michigan, have drafted new model protocols for social workers, police investigators, and others who conduct child interviews. These protocols emphasize the hazards of the confirmation bias, instructing interviewers to test the hypothesis of possible abuse, and not assume they know what happened. The guidelines recognize that most children will readily disclose actual abuse, and some need prodding; the guidelines also caution against the use of techniques known to produce false reports.

This change, from the uncritical "believe the children" to "understand the children," reflects a recognition that mental-health professionals need to think more like scientists and less like advocates, weighing all the evidence fairly and considering the possibility that their suspicions are unfounded. If they do not, it will not be justice that is served, but self-justification.

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Post by dogen » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:38 am

2minutesHate wrote:
Angry_Drunk wrote: What, take his picture? It's a type of camera.
No, it's a fucking lazer rangefinder you ignorant fuck.

What the fuck would PZ Myers do with a lazer rangefinder? These are most often used by hunters so they can make elevation ajustments while hunting game.
How about measuring the rapidly growing distance between his 'career' and any meaningful measure of scientific relevance?

:D

PS: Laser, not lazer, you ignorant fuck.

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Post by Angry_Drunk » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:46 am

2minutesHate wrote:
Angry_Drunk wrote:
2minutesHate wrote:
WTF would Peezus use a Leica rangefinder for? I know what i'd use it for on him. ;-)
What, take his picture? It's a type of camera.
No, it's a fucking lazer rangefinder you ignorant fuck.

What the fuck would PZ Myers do with a lazer rangefinder? These are most often used by hunters so they can make elevation ajustments while hunting game.
http://us.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/

Moron.

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Post by Aneris » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:54 am

Part Two of the Silverman Heresy is out now. That one is bit of jumble, with too many quotes and sources, but hey I had to substantiate a bit more, it's largely about the "Witch of the Week" meme:
http://discordiantimes.wordpress.com/20 ... e-leaders/

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Post by dogen » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:59 am

Angry_Drunk wrote:
2minutesHate wrote:
Angry_Drunk wrote:
What, take his picture? It's a type of camera.
No, it's a fucking lazer rangefinder you ignorant fuck.

What the fuck would PZ Myers do with a lazer rangefinder? These are most often used by hunters so they can make elevation ajustments while hunting game.
http://us.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/

Moron.
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Post by windy » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:01 pm

Apples wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Over at Atheism+ the spirit of April Fool's Day is alive and well.
"No dangerous jokes."

dangerous.

jokes.

srsly. :(
The most dangerous joke in the world:
[youtube]8gpjk_MaCGM[/youtube]

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Post by Whiskey Tango » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:04 pm

Tony Parsehole wrote:
Whiskey Tango wrote:http://sciencehouse.com/static/imagegal ... lery/1.jpg
She's so cool. Most fuddy duddy science types sit on chairs to do a science but she throws the science rules out the window and sits on a desk. In jeans.
It's like Dirty Dancing but instead of pulling proscribed shapes on the dancefloor she's desking it up among test tubes and whiteboards filled with incomprehensible equations.
Well to be fair, the equations aren't *entirely* incomprehensible -- I think I see an f-clef notation and a recipe for vegan chicken wings up there. Also, I have it on good authority that her Hot Topic belt doubles as a Batman-style utility belt.

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Post by rpguest » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:06 pm

Angry_Drunk wrote:
2minutesHate wrote:
Angry_Drunk wrote:
What, take his picture? It's a type of camera.
No, it's a fucking lazer rangefinder you ignorant fuck.

What the fuck would PZ Myers do with a lazer rangefinder? These are most often used by hunters so they can make elevation ajustments while hunting game.
http://us.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/

Moron.
the 'Rangefinder' series is still just that--no camera system

some kwok review which i assume is associated - http://www.amazon.com/review/R1L2JWG8DMBC1L

never hung around pharyngula to know the particulars of their meme for it

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Post by AndrewV69 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:07 pm

JacquesCuze wrote:
Apples wrote:Here is the description of the 'sexual assault' for which the author tried to get the dude thrown out of his dorm:
He was a friend of mine and I trusted him. It was a freezing Friday night when I stumbled into his dorm room after too many drinks. He took my shirt off and started biting the skin on my neck and breast. I pushed back on his chest and asked him to stop kissing me aggressively. He laughed. He said that I should “just wear a scarf” to cover the marks. He continued to abuse my body, hurting my breast and vagina. He asked me to use my mouth. I said no. I was intoxicated, I was in pain, I was trapped between him and the wall, and I was scared to death that he would continue to ignore what I said. I stopped everything and turned my back to him, praying he would leave me alone. He started getting impatient. “Are you only going to make me hard, or are you going to make me come?” he said in a demanding tone.

It did not sound like a question. I obeyed.

Shortly after I reported my sexual assault to my House staff, I was told by a senior member of the College administration that the Administrative Board was very unlikely to “issue a charge” against my assailant and to launch a thorough investigative process because my assailant may not have technically violated the school’s policy in the student handbook.
I read accounts like this where a young woman, drunk, is unable to say no and leave, and I'll I can think is that as a parent of girls (which I am) I would be furious and that the "coed experiment" has clearly failed and floors need proctors and policies against girls or boys in rooms, and that underage drinking should be punished by severely.

Because I know I can't blame this girl for getting so shitfaced she had to find a good place to sleep it off, or for her choice of doing that in a man's room, and for being too drunk to call other girls, or call a harvard safety escort service, or for being in his room and not being able to firmly state repeatedly no or for not slapping him and leaving.

http://i.imgur.com/1MGExe4.jpg

It's pretty obvious when reading these accounts repeatedly that young women are terrified with the physical difference in their size and that of a man's and that their hearts literally leap into their throats with fear when a man acts in any way sexually towards them.

And I just don't see any way for that to stop, at which point I think, it really is time to declare the coed experiment over, and have women go back to women's colleges, and men go back to men's colleged.
In the USA perhaps?

One of my kids had a girl as roommate for two semesters before I found out. I will admit I nearly freaked out was alarmed but he managed to persuade me not to worry.

What I do not get is why these girls are getting drunk and going to the guy's room afterwards if they do not expect to get laid?

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Post by Aneris » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:07 pm

windy wrote:
Apples wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Over at Atheism+ the spirit of April Fool's Day is alive and well.
"No dangerous jokes."

dangerous.

jokes.

srsly. :(
The most dangerous joke in the world:
[youtube]8gpjk_MaCGM[/youtube]
I have to put the video into my blog post. How didn't I think of that. Thanks :)


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Post by Parody Accountant » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:18 pm

Clarence wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:So an update to the anime discussion:

I thought Sword Art Online looked and sounded really stupid, but I gave it a shot and I'm glad I did. It looks like it'll end up being top class. Some seriously nice, quality animation, and (surprisingly) high stakes and likeable characters. It's sort of like Battle Royale or The Matrix, mixed with that online MMO shit all the kids are into nowadays.

And hey, most action anime devolved into a fucking video game script anyways, so at least they can do it proper from the first episode and then take that concept to more interesting places.
Overall, I found Sword Art (both arcs) to be enjoyable, but the first more so than the second. I was a bit disappointed in that the story was lacking a bit in the second arc, and seems to get a bit weaker toward the end of the first. That being said I think you'll like the first arc, and the second one is ok if you are into cute video game elf chicks and cliched love stories with not quite as much philosophizing.
2nd Arc sucked ass. 1st was good, but not amazing. Worth watching (until 2nd arc starts - you'll know it immediately).

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Post by John Greg » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:19 pm

James said (http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... 14#p172714):
The solution to this problem is to never update Mozilla. Update like once every six months or year, and tell Firefox and its endless modifications to go take a fuck to themselves.

But yeah, it pissed me off when I updated and realized Firefox had scrubbed my two script blockers and I was once again getting the full adbomb experience. I'll stop running adblock when websites stop running flash animation ads.
Hmm. Perhaps it's something in the settings. I've been using Firefox, and several add-ons (including script blockers, ad-free, and so on), for years now. And I have never, ever had this problem.

As for Proffeedouchee leaving TFB, if true: :dance:

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Post by Parody Accountant » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:20 pm

Za-zen wrote:Dafuq

Clarence, this one was for you

[youtube]XWemX3QjTSU[/youtube]
[youtube]ymKLymvwD2U[/youtube]

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Post by Badger3k » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:23 pm

2minutesHate wrote:
Angry_Drunk wrote:
2minutesHate wrote:
Peezus Myers Christ wrote:Well, Ed and I have been tallying up what we owe you as a final payout on your departure…which was actually a bit of a surprise. Our first comment on hearing that PhysioProffe was leaving was “Who the fucke is that? He blogs here?” But, unfortunately, as ably documented by all those complaints from Valued Members of the FtB Community, your tenure here has been so detrimental that we have discovered you owe us money.

$6,481 dollars, actually. I did not pull that number out of my ass, it’s an objective assessment of your net negative contributions.

But because I’m a nice guy, we’ll call it even if you just send me a Leica rangefinder (which, by the way, is now the standard unit of internet commerce.)
WTF would Peezus use a Leica rangefinder for? I know what i'd use it for on him. ;-)
What, take his picture? It's a type of camera.
No, it's a fucking lazer rangefinder you ignorant fuck.

What the fuck would PZ Myers do with a lazer rangefinder? These are most often used by hunters so they can make elevation ajustments while hunting game.
It's an old joke relating to John Kwok.

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Post by Guestus Aurelius » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:01 pm

John Greg wrote:James said (http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... 14#p172714):
The solution to this problem is to never update Mozilla. Update like once every six months or year, and tell Firefox and its endless modifications to go take a fuck to themselves.

But yeah, it pissed me off when I updated and realized Firefox had scrubbed my two script blockers and I was once again getting the full adbomb experience. I'll stop running adblock when websites stop running flash animation ads.
Hmm. Perhaps it's something in the settings. I've been using Firefox, and several add-ons (including script blockers, ad-free, and so on), for years now. And I have never, ever had this problem.

As for Proffeedouchee leaving TFB, if true: :dance:
I had that problem until maybe 2 or 3 years ago. Add-on incompatibility with Firefox updates hasn't been a problem for me since then.


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Post by 2minutesHate » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:22 pm

Angry_Drunk wrote:
2minutesHate wrote:
Angry_Drunk wrote:What, take his picture? It's a type of camera.
No, it's a fucking lazer rangefinder you ignorant fuck.

What the fuck would PZ Myers do with a lazer rangefinder? These are most often used by hunters so they can make elevation ajustments while hunting game.
http://us.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/

Moron.
http://swfa.com/Leica-Rangefinders-C513.aspx

Ãœber Moron.

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Post by James Caruthers » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:34 pm

Clarence wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:So an update to the anime discussion:

I thought Sword Art Online looked and sounded really stupid, but I gave it a shot and I'm glad I did. It looks like it'll end up being top class. Some seriously nice, quality animation, and (surprisingly) high stakes and likeable characters. It's sort of like Battle Royale or The Matrix, mixed with that online MMO shit all the kids are into nowadays.

And hey, most action anime devolved into a fucking video game script anyways, so at least they can do it proper from the first episode and then take that concept to more interesting places.
Overall, I found Sword Art (both arcs) to be enjoyable, but the first more so than the second. I was a bit disappointed in that the story was lacking a bit in the second arc, and seems to get a bit weaker toward the end of the first. That being said I think you'll like the first arc, and the second one is ok if you are into cute video game elf chicks and cliched love stories with not quite as much philosophizing.
Ugh! Gross, man.

Guess I'm in it for the philosophizing and sweet animation. I am also an animation whore. It's more than animation, though. The show has a really good use of "camera" work so far. I was impressed with the way certain kinds of shots were used to enhance action rather than hide it. Since animation doesn't have to deal with physical camera angles, it should always be doing this sort of thing.

The art and animation reminds me a lot of Gurren Lagann.

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#18946

Post by windy » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:35 pm

dogen wrote: I think we've found our screwdriver/hammer of the month! Have at it, 'pitters!
It's a floor wax AND a dessert topping!

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#18947

Post by James Caruthers » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:38 pm

So FTB has the midnight marauder and now an incarcerated creationist active on their forum.

I wonder if the commentariat realizes that Physioproofe probably trolled them with the "I'm leaving and it's not a joke" nonsense.

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#18948

Post by Apples » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:44 pm

Parody Accountant wrote:You ignorant John Kwoksuckers.
Last I saw him he had installed himself as a fixture in James Shapiro's threads at Huffpost and was alternating between accusing Shapiro of giving aid and comfort to creationists and continuing his compulsive habit of incessantly name-dropping Frank McCourt (among others) and posing as an overpowering super-genius. He is truly a total fucking nutcase and a dangerous joke.


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Post by Mykeru » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:04 pm

James Caruthers wrote: Guess I'm in it for the philosophizing and sweet animation.
And to protect your virginity.

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Post by JackSkeptic » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:06 pm

James Caruthers wrote:So FTB has the midnight marauder and now an incarcerated creationist active on their forum.

I wonder if the commentariat realizes that Physioproofe probably trolled them with the "I'm leaving and it's not a joke" nonsense.
In SJWland every day is April 1st.


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Post by James Caruthers » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:18 pm

Mykeru wrote:
James Caruthers wrote: Guess I'm in it for the philosophizing and sweet animation.
And to protect your virginity.
As opposed to the mad pussy Victrolas draw in. Every day, all day, antiques pimpin'.

But yes, the Virginity Shield 2.0, generated by watching anime, is quite excellent. I recommend it to any man or woman selected for island volcano sacrifice.

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Post by Mykeru » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:45 pm

James Caruthers wrote:
Mykeru wrote:
James Caruthers wrote: Guess I'm in it for the philosophizing and sweet animation.
And to protect your virginity.
As opposed to the mad pussy Victrolas draw in. Every day, all day, antiques pimpin'.
I'd rather have imaginary this:
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Than imaginary this:
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Pervert.

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Post by Pitchguest » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:52 pm

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... t-forward/

Think Stollznow will share the wealth? Or Regreta, maybe she could give him some fluevogs? Yay team!

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Post by James Caruthers » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:07 pm

Mykeru wrote: I'd rather have imaginary this:
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I thought what really got your phonograph going was a sandy cnut.

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Post by Really? » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:17 pm

Pitchguest wrote:http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... t-forward/

Think Stollznow will share the wealth? Or Regreta, maybe she could give him some fluevogs? Yay team!
What the hell is Finbar complaining about? Did he suffer as much as Stollznow suffered? He's a he. Can he ever really know the pain of someone who gets a tweet from the Stephen Colbert account that references a video that attacks anti-Asian racism? (And how dare they, seeing as how Asians are so often the target of anti-racist jokes.)

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Post by Steersman » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:24 pm

windy wrote:Some "interesting" uses of quotations here... the "work" of some local "steersman", perhaps?

http://distractify.com/people/the-30-mo ... n-history/

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:lol: Amazing that there is an actual blog devoted to that: the “blog” of “unnecessary” quotation marks

However, in my own or our defense Your Honour, or in passing, I kind of like to add quotes around “feminism” or “feminists” to emphasize that there is a rather wide range of ideologies encompassed by the term. Although I suppose one might argue the same thing about communists or republicans. And someone argued that “reality” should always be quoted to suggest an equally wide if not wider set of questions and concepts.

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#18959

Post by SoylentAtheist » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:26 pm

Pitchguest wrote:http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... t-forward/
Think Stollznow will share the wealth? Or Regreta, maybe she could give him some fluevogs? Yay team!
Evidently Ophelia felt it was important enough to reblog, but not important enough to contribute herself.

http://www.pozible.com/project/180388#supporters

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Post by zenbabe » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:27 pm

Something just crawled into my computer and changed the date to March something, year 2030!
Where oh where is the raep-recovery couch?

Also, "quotes"
http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com/

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