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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby sacha » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:46 am  •  [Post 34681]

Pinker wrote:I'd already screencapped a few of Tony's brilliant moments...


He is spot on with this: They are the antithesis of what Phayrngula–and FtB at large–stands for.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby DataNotDogma » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:54 am  •  [Post 34682]

Jonathan wrote:Today's A+ gem. So long, poorly-written and demented that even a moderator is bemused.


from linked thread:
himeroyal, i read that you are not the author of the post you made. I'm not comfortable with that. i would rather the author posted this. message. people are. already. responding to you as if you. wrote it, but you did not.



Is. That. A. Bug. or common. spell check/ios thing. Or does he. not know. how to use. punctuation. question?

Anyway while reading old posts here I came across the Che thread on A+. I was very amused that it ended in not anyone talking about the crimes of Che but the tone in which Che was criticized. How do they get anything done? "while you raise good points, you raise them in the wrong way...." do they even skeptic? (sorry for abuse of meme)
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Phil_Giordana_FCD » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:55 am  •  [Post 34683]

Oh, right: Fascination, congrats, I hope all goes well.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Cunning Punt » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:59 am  •  [Post 34684]

Pitchguest wrote:So, er, Physioprof pitches in:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/physioprof/ ... -feminist/

Seriously, what the fuck is up with this guy? Why does he add extra letters to words? Why does he end most words with an e? :?:



So.. let me see if I get this straight: women aren't walking vagina vending machines? I had no idea! Thank you for edumacating me, comrade!
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Dick Strawkins » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:01 am  •  [Post 34685]

Pitchguest wrote:So, er, Physioprof pitches in:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/physioprof/ ... -feminist/

Seriously, what the fuck is up with this guy? Why does he add extra letters to words? Why does he end most words with an e? :?:


I can never read more than a sentence of his 'writing' before I start to wonder when Grendel is going to appear.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby DataNotDogma » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:04 am  •  [Post 34686]

DataNotDogma wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Today's A+ gem. So long, poorly-written and demented that even a moderator is bemused.


from linked thread:
himeroyal, i read that you are not the author of the post you made. I'm not comfortable with that. i would rather the author posted this. message. people are. already. responding to you as if you. wrote it, but you did not.



Is. That. A. Bug. or common. spell check/ios thing. Or does he. not know. how to use. punctuation. question?



missed this part:
"Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2"
Oh. Never mind. Speech to text still sucks I guess.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby real horrorshow » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:10 am  •  [Post 34687]

Lsuoma wrote:
[youtube]LkCNJRfSZBU[youtube]

I find that hilarious, but what puzzles me is that the plan was screwed as soon as Leeroy rushed in. So why the hell did the others follow him? It sounded like they were only taking the fight on to get something for Leeroy anyway. If he's going to piss on his chips like that I'd go and find something else to do.

I will say however: "At least I have chicken." Is a great line.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Trophy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:13 am  •  [Post 34688]

Keating wrote:I think the problem here is that the presence of such harassment also causes legitimate criticism to be easily dismissed.


Exactly. By just presenting the harrassments, it's possible to evade legitimate criticism. That's also one reason I think it's good to condemn shitty harrassments when criticising. Of course probably that won't make much of a difference anyways.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Phil_Giordana_FCD » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:19 am  •  [Post 34689]

real horrorshow wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
[youtube]LkCNJRfSZBU[youtube]

I find that hilarious, but what puzzles me is that the plan was screwed as soon as Leeroy rushed in. So why the hell did the others follow him? It sounded like they were only taking the fight on to get something for Leeroy anyway. If he's going to piss on his chips like that I'd go and find something else to do.

I will say however: "At least I have chicken." Is a great line.


Pre-fabricated:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/leeroy-jenkins
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Trophy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:23 am  •  [Post 34690]

Dick Strawkins wrote:In terms of sex negative feminism what Peezus did was a huge error.
They will look on this video and see it in a completely different light than the sex positives.
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For example they will ask: "What if this woman was a survivor of sexual assault? Wouldn't joking about having sex with her (and without asking permission) be triggering of her memories of her prior assault?"
They will also ask: "Would Peezus have made the same joke if it was a man who volunteered rather than a woman?"


I see you have passed your Feminism 101 course! That was awesome! :clap:
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Mykeru » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:24 am  •  [Post 34691]

sacha wrote:
Mykeru wrote:
sacha wrote:PZ is a submissive/masochist. There is not a chance in hell he can be dominant sexually.


Speaking of which, how'd you like a ride on my bully pulpit, baby?


only if there is a crowd watching


Randomly selected, or should it be unwashed neckbeards and chicks with day-glo hair?
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby real horrorshow » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:25 am  •  [Post 34692]

justinvacula wrote:[youtube]lWLFCEDJFg4[youtube]

On better days...

You're a paladin! Heal yourself!

And that sort of thing is one of the main reasons I've never had a WoW account.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby sacha » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:26 am  •  [Post 34693]

rayshul wrote:
SJW women I've noticed get mighty out of shape when you discover that in their view you do more "man things"... so are therefore in their heads a better feminist than them. It's a bit fucken mental.


A lot of their aggression has to do with an enormous amount of insecurity.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby justinvacula » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:29 am  •  [Post 34694]

Re:H2O

I am not backing down from my comment or excusing it away because it was posted on my phone. I think it's silly that a quick comment like that would warrant blog posts.

Anyway, i'd advise you to read the entire comment as I linked it rather than PZ's quote-mined narrative. My main focus is that a lack of 50/50 gender balance is not, by itself, evidence of misandry, misogyny, sexism, or whatever else. It just so happens that some communities, activities, etc. have different levels of gender participation. This doesn't mean that, as I posted, the developers of WoW are sexist or that there is something stopping males from participating in needlepoint. Notice also the quotes I used - the usage of 'guy thing,' anyway, from my and Shermer's usage, is a comment about population - not "oh, women aren't smart enough for x" as some are claiming.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby welch » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:35 am  •  [Post 34695]

Trophy wrote:
real horrorshow wrote:Really? People e-mail me random bullshit all the time. It's not harassment, it's spam. Ad breaks in TV shows, the torrent of glossy leaflets that fall out of every magazine all spam, but not harassment. If you mean the stuff that's sent to Sarkeesian specifically in response to the opinions she's expressed, I would estimate that it falls into two categories:
1. People expressing their views on the issues she has raised - which they are perfectly entitled to do.
2. The usual crap from the usual idiots that everyone who makes themselves conspicuous on-line gets - unfortunate but, like spam, inevitable.


If you send me emails that contain offensive material directed at me, and the goal is to annoy me, or disturb me and it's obvious that there's no "good faith", then you are harrassing and in many places it is actually a criminal activity. Sending me photoshopped pornographics images of me clearly falls into that category and can be prosecuted by law. AGAIN THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO PEOPLE EXPRESSING THEIR OPINIONS GODDAMNED IT.


I look at it in terms of effort. If you send someone unwanted emails, they have to do almost nothing to see them in terms of effort. Open email client, read. Same thing with im, @-/d- messages on twitter, Facebook messages, etc. I can, esp. In the case of kids/adolescents , see that as bullying. Those things are being projected at them. It's analogous to standing on the sidewalk in front of their house yelling at them.

It's when they call posting on a web site that isn't their own, someone else's Facebook wall "bullying" that I get off the bus. And no, google results don't count. At that point, they're complaining about conversations happening in places they are not. They have to expend actual effort to go read those things. FTB would be a lot less upset about this place if they stopped reading it more than we do. Vice-versa as well. So please, me saying laden should have been wolf chow as an infant is assholish, but unless I send those statements to him, not bullying.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby sacha » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:38 am  •  [Post 34696]

Mykeru wrote:
sacha wrote:
Mykeru wrote:
Speaking of which, how'd you like a ride on my bully pulpit, baby?


only if there is a crowd watching


Randomly selected, or should it be unwashed neckbeards and chicks with day-glo hair?


who is your audience? Aren't you making a powerful speech and rallying support first, or were you planning to do that during my ride?
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Phil_Giordana_FCD » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:38 am  •  [Post 34697]

welch wrote:
Trophy wrote:
real horrorshow wrote:Really? People e-mail me random bullshit all the time. It's not harassment, it's spam. Ad breaks in TV shows, the torrent of glossy leaflets that fall out of every magazine all spam, but not harassment. If you mean the stuff that's sent to Sarkeesian specifically in response to the opinions she's expressed, I would estimate that it falls into two categories:
1. People expressing their views on the issues she has raised - which they are perfectly entitled to do.
2. The usual crap from the usual idiots that everyone who makes themselves conspicuous on-line gets - unfortunate but, like spam, inevitable.


If you send me emails that contain offensive material directed at me, and the goal is to annoy me, or disturb me and it's obvious that there's no "good faith", then you are harrassing and in many places it is actually a criminal activity. Sending me photoshopped pornographics images of me clearly falls into that category and can be prosecuted by law. AGAIN THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO PEOPLE EXPRESSING THEIR OPINIONS GODDAMNED IT.


I look at it in terms of effort. If you send someone unwanted emails, they have to do almost nothing to see them in terms of effort. Open email client, read. Same thing with im, @-/d- messages on twitter, Facebook messages, etc. I can, esp. In the case of kids/adolescents , see that as bullying. Those things are being projected at them. It's analogous to standing on the sidewalk in front of their house yelling at them.

It's when they call posting on a web site that isn't their own, someone else's Facebook wall "bullying" that I get off the bus. And no, google results don't count. At that point, they're complaining about conversations happening in places they are not. They have to expend actual effort to go read those things. FTB would be a lot less upset about this place if they stopped reading it more than we do. Vice-versa as well. So please, me saying laden should have been wolf chow as an infant is assholish, but unless I send those statements to him, not bullying.



Most recent exemple (and sorry, my stomach's still hurting from the lulz):

Claus: "Hey Laden, sucks you can't ban me from FB"

Laden: "Watch me!"

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Laden: "Oh, sorry, it's not my thread, I can't ban you".

Lulz level: OVER 9000!!!
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Trophy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:44 am  •  [Post 34698]

@Phil_Giordana_FCD :

LOL! When the fuck did that happen? I totally missed it! I did a little search and I couldn't find it.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Miss O Gynist » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:50 am  •  [Post 34699]

cunt wrote:
Busted doing what? Making a bunch of shit jokes? Having zero comic timing? Sorry but that video was lame.


Really bad jokes, and agree no comic timing. The bust comes in the form of hypocrisy. If anyone else had made those same retarded jokes, he would be all over them.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby John Brown » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:04 am  •  [Post 34700]

Scented Nectar wrote:
cunt wrote:Busted doing what? Making a bunch of shit jokes? Having zero comic timing? Sorry but that video was lame.

Busted doing the very thing he preaches against.


Well, there really is no sexism in the video if it is all taken in context. It's just awkward joking around and feeding off of the crowd. You know, innocent banter that goes on between the sexes all the time.

The problem is, it *is* sexist behavior in FTB land. Viewed through PZ's, Ophilia's Stephanie's, et al rubric, this is pretty heinous stuff. It's the sort of video had anyone else been involved (think Sam Harris or Shermer) that pretty much every commenter at FTB would be starting out ever comment thusly (and I'm using stock language, here):

"Ugh! Typical male privilege! Could he be any more clueless? Facepalm!"

If PZ would have come out and immediately said, "Yup, that was incredibly sexist, I apologize, and I'll never do it again," then he would have completely disarmed his critics.

But, PZ has two sets of rules, as everyone here knows.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby TedDahlberg » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:06 am  •  [Post 34701]

Trophy wrote:@Phil_Giordana_FCD :

LOL! When the fuck did that happen? I totally missed it! I did a little search and I couldn't find it.


Funniest thing I've seen all week :D

HoneyWagon wrote:Too funny not to share. This just happened
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Postby sacha » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:19 am  •  [Post 34702]

oh how I miss you...

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*swoon*
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby real horrorshow » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:20 am  •  [Post 34703]

Pinker wrote:The Slymepit is Lex Luthor to FreeThoughtBlogs Superman! 8-)

Oh yes! I love that. Yet another wonderful complement from the Baboons. Honestly, who wouldn't want to be Lex rather than the Big Blue Boy Scout? Even by Superhero standards Supes is fucking bland. And how does he live? Working for beans at a newspaper office for a boss who bollocks him on a daily basis? Bumbling and fumbling around Lois for years! Lex meanwhile is damn billionaire who'd be combing chicks out of his hair if he had hair!
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Altair » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:37 am  •  [Post 34704]

Mykeru wrote:
sacha wrote:
only if there is a crowd watching


Randomly selected, or should it be unwashed neckbeards and chicks with day-glo hair?


Do members of the pit get front row seats?
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Ericb » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:39 am  •  [Post 34705]

Pinker: "The Slymepit is Lex Luthor to FreeThoughtBlogs Superman!"


The Slymepit is Arguments, FTB is Abuse.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby franc » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:42 am  •  [Post 34706]

Ericb wrote:Pinker: "The Slymepit is Lex Luthor to FreeThoughtBlogs Superman!"


The Slymepit is Arguments, FTB is Abuse.


Your avatar, and Phawrongula's -

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby John Brown » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:51 am  •  [Post 34707]

New proposed rules for Atheism Plus: Dissent anywhere else will get you banned!

"If you post on this forum and an external forum, crossover must be open and respectful on both sides. Don't post on one forum while covertly reporting your progress on the other. Don't use one forum to evade the rules of the other."

http://www.freezepage.com/1355484766NSDFCWQZJI
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby d4m10n » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:51 am  •  [Post 34708]

Dick Strawkins wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:
cunt wrote:Busted doing what? Making a bunch of shit jokes? Having zero comic timing? Sorry but that video was lame.

Busted doing the very thing he preaches against.


I almpst feel sorry for Peezus with this one.
That video was shot in late 2010. It wasn't until 8 months later at Elevatorgate that he became a lifelong feminist.

Was it sexist behavior?


I was in the live audience during that one, didn't think it was anything other than very mildly transgressive sexual humour. If I recall correctly, PZ also made a point of his vanilla monogamous sex life during the same talk, which made the whole poker hand thing seem like even more of a harmless joke.

However, I also sort of assumed that the 'volunteer' was a plant, one of the sk3 student organisers, perhaps. Cannot now recall why I thought that at the time. May have to go through the old photo albums to figure it out.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Phil_Giordana_FCD » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:55 am  •  [Post 34709]

d4m10n wrote:
I was in the live audience during that one, didn't think it was anything other than very mildly transgressive sexual humour. If I recall correctly, PZ also made a point of his vanilla monogamous sex life during the same talk, which made the whole poker hand thing seem like even more of a harmless joke.

However, I also sort of assumed that the 'volunteer' was a plant, one of the sk3 student organisers, perhaps. Cannot now recall why I thought that at the time. May have to go through the old photo albums to figure it out.



The jokes (as stupid as they were) stand for themselves. Just don't make these and then condemn people for doing the same. Hypocrisy.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Dick Strawkins » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:03 am  •  [Post 34710]

d4m10n wrote:
I was in the live audience during that one, didn't think it was anything other than very mildly transgressive sexual humour. If I recall correctly, PZ also made a point of his vanilla monogamous sex life during the same talk, which made the whole poker hand thing seem like even more of a harmless joke.

However, I also sort of assumed that the 'volunteer' was a plant, one of the sk3 student organisers, perhaps. Cannot now recall why I thought that at the time. May have to go through the old photo albums to figure it out.


Peezus says it was a volunteer from the audience.
If it was a plant I'm pretty sure we would have been told that she agreed to the sex banter beforehand.

PZ Myers

13 December 2012 at 8:37 am (UTC -6)

The person in the audience was a volunteer. If she’d shown any reluctance or embarrassment I would have let her step down, no problem.


Can you imagine what response Shermer would have got if he offered a lousy excuse like that! :shock:
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby real horrorshow » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:44 am  •  [Post 34711]

John Brown wrote:New proposed rules for Atheism Plus: Dissent anywhere else will get you banned!

"If you post on this forum and an external forum, crossover must be open and respectful on both sides. Don't post on one forum while covertly reporting your progress on the other. Don't use one forum to evade the rules of the other."

http://www.freezepage.com/1355484766NSDFCWQZJI

They really do want to be the cop in everyone's head don't they?
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:45 am  •  [Post 34712]

TedDahlberg wrote:
Trophy wrote:@Phil_Giordana_FCD :

LOL! When the fuck did that happen? I totally missed it! I did a little search and I couldn't find it.


Funniest thing I've seen all week :D

HoneyWagon wrote:Too funny not to share. This just happened:
Laden being more doltish than usual.


:lol: - Ah Greg. I could almost come to like you for this.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Lsuoma » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:47 am  •  [Post 34713]

John Brown wrote:New proposed rules for Atheism Plus: Dissent anywhere else will get you banned!

"If you post on this forum and an external forum, crossover must be open and respectful on both sides. Don't post on one forum while covertly reporting your progress on the other. Don't use one forum to evade the rules of the other."

http://www.freezepage.com/1355484766NSDFCWQZJI

That's oolon fucked!
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Lsuoma » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:48 am  •  [Post 34714]

Dick Strawkins wrote:
PZ Myers

13 December 2012 at 8:37 am (UTC -6)

The person in the audience was a volunteer. If she’d shown any reluctance or embarrassment I would have let her step down, no problem.


Can you imagine what response Shermer would have got if he offered a lousy excuse like that! :shock:

What a fucking idiot he is: does PeeNus really think that "let[ting] her stand down" wouldn't have been shaming her?

Stupid cunt.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby windy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:52 am  •  [Post 34715]

chillyp wrote:Is there a Program Guide for the the Conference RW gave her EP speech at? I hunted around the skepticon.org website but could not find a PDF. I would hope the Conference Guide would contain the title of her talk. If it was titled simply "A Skeptics (sic) Guide to Ev. Psych." that would sink the claim that her talk was merely about Media Distortions of Ev. Psych.

I watched Watson's entire talk, and it seemed to me to be a polemic against Evolutionary Psychology in general.

Some of Watson's defenders have much the same impression of the talk, like Jean Kazez, who calls it "Feminist Science Criticism" (and Ed Clint's critique an "excoriation of Watson"). I thought she might have learned something from the Mooney debacle, but no such luck.

Kazez wrote:If Watson is a denier, so is Sarah Blaffer Hrdy, author of The Woman that Never Evolved--she also critiques existing science for being biased by prevailing gender norms.

Nice try, but Hrdy is a distinguished primatologist and sociobiologist who has criticised aspects of existing science while making significant contributions to the field herself, so it's much less likely that she'd be denialist about it than some random twit attempting to criticise the field. But it's great that Kazez managed to google up a couple of examples of actual feminist science criticism, that's more in-depth research than Watson did.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby KarlVonMox » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:55 am  •  [Post 34716]

More evidence of the dangerous cult-like nature of FTB - infallible leaders that escape rational scrutiny even when blatant hypocrisy is exposed.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:58 am  •  [Post 34717]

cunt wrote:Bit of early morning Pharyngula. Page 2 in the comment section seems to have gotten a bit interesting. As it generally tends to when noelplum99 posts.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/12/12/thats-not-a-response-michael-its-a-denial/#comments

Particularly funny Nerd Of Redhead meltdown. Little guy just keeps squawking "citation needed", "OPINION IS NOT EVIDENCE". *sob* "fuckwitted loser" *sob*

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Oh yeah and that idiotic Tony guy turns up at the end to try and guilt-by-association Jim.


Nerd of Redhead, Dancing om the Trolls...

...and dancing like an embarrasing uncle at a wedding.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby papillon » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:00 am  •  [Post 34718]

Yeh Zac, you tell 'em..


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Stop criticising me so I can continue criticising the people who are being defended from criticism.
Haha, his mind is truly addled.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby welch » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:03 am  •  [Post 34719]

John Brown wrote:New proposed rules for Atheism Plus: Dissent anywhere else will get you banned!

"If you post on this forum and an external forum, crossover must be open and respectful on both sides. Don't post on one forum while covertly reporting your progress on the other. Don't use one forum to evade the rules of the other."

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wonder how'd they feel about a prospective or current employer reading their output on A+ and not hiring/firing them over it. Same principle, right?

Besides, they're just copying FTB again. That's Greta's Rule #9:

9: Do not behave atrociously in other blogs. If you are barely walking the line of acceptable behavior in this blog — but you have a pattern of foul, demeaning, sexist/ racist/ etc., insulting, violently threatening, or otherwise reprehensible behavior in other blogs — you will be banned from this one, with no second chance, and no warning.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Miss O Gynist » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:05 am  •  [Post 34720]

PZ Myers

13 December 2012 at 8:37 am (UTC -6)

The person in the audience was a volunteer. If she’d shown any reluctance or embarrassment I would have let her step down, no problem.


Maybe if he had worded it in a different way. "If I win, you run free" and if "you win, you will be my mate" if it was so necessary for the talk he was giving. No, he jokes of belly dancing, taking off his pants, his hotel key, and repeats the "we'll have sex" joke at least 3 times. He came off a creepy old guy. As a female, was I offended by his weak attempt at humor? Not in the least, but I was dumbfounded, and more so today at his excuses, by his hypocrisy.

Now, when he made the hotel key crack, I would have loved if the volunteer had replied "Not on your life Pops" :naughty:
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby welch » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:06 am  •  [Post 34721]

papillon wrote:Yeh Zac, you tell 'em..


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Stop criticising me so I can continue criticising the people who are being defended from criticism.
Haha, his mind is truly addled.


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Mykeru » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:08 am  •  [Post 34722]

sacha wrote:
HoneyWagon wrote:Too funny not to share. This just happened
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brilliant


Well, isn't Greg Laden's psychology just ever-fucking-fascinating?

The guy is so eager to smack someone down, to demonstrate how they don't come up to his non-existent standards, to just lash out that whatever is at issue is largely irrelevant. What's important to him is just being a condescending little prick lording it over perceived inferiors that he can't even pay attention to being on another person's wall where he has no power to do any of the above.

When you see one of those fuckwits doing this, and ending up spiraling down the drain, the comparison with theism is especially apt. One of the most irritating thing about theists isn't just that they use language so differently that "truth" is a code word for their dogma, and their God's love would be considered shit-kicking in another context, but even when you compensate for that, their grasp on ethics is still abyssal, just the brainless application of carved-in-stone rules that they try to apply long after they stop making any sense because, well, God. Or in this case Internet Social Justice that means Jack in the real world, but gives them a stick to beat people with.

Greg Laden is one miserable human being and every time he posts it just shows there's something seriously wrong with the guy. The harassment of Abbie has nothing to do with real slights and everything to do with a stalkerish guy who lacks the balls to take to alleys with a ball-peen hammer and fill his heart's desire.

Meanwhile: the newly leaked Laden-Svan sex tape:

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Altair wrote:
Do members of the pit get front row seats?


Well, the ball's in Sacha's court. Hypergamy and sexual selection and all that, but apparently she has a really nice smackable ass that would be a shame not to play a command performance of butt-bongo on.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Reap » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:09 am  •  [Post 34723]

cunt wrote:
Busted doing what? Making a bunch of shit jokes? Having zero comic timing? Sorry but that video was lame.


Lame? Because it shows that PZ can't apply the rules fairly across the board? The guy has a set of rules for his behavior and another set for everyone else. Are you even trying to pay attention? What do you think my point was? Do you have any problem with PZ? If so I would love to hear what exactly they are
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby ERV » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:12 am  •  [Post 34724]

papillon wrote:Yeh Zac, you tell 'em..


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Stop criticising me so I can continue criticising the people who are being defended from criticism.
Haha, his mind is truly addled.
Shorter PZ:
I didnt type in all caps I just used a larger font and totally not a sign I am insane!!!!
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:19 am  •  [Post 34725]

Lsuoma wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:
PZ Myers

13 December 2012 at 8:37 am (UTC -6)

The person in the audience was a volunteer. If she’d shown any reluctance or embarrassment I would have let her step down, no problem.


Can you imagine what response Shermer would have got if he offered a lousy excuse like that! :shock:

What a fucking idiot he is: does PeeNus really think that "let[ting] her stand down" wouldn't have been shaming her?

Stupid cunt.


This is the problem I have here - during elevatorgate, Peezus made it quite clear that EGuy's approach was reprehensible, even though EGuy was happy enough to accept Becky's demurral and pursue the matter no further. He left her alone.

And yet Peezee brings a woman up to the stage and proceeds to make lewd remarks at her. But he says it's okay, because if she had said that she disliked such attention, he would have stopped.

Just as EGuy stopped when Becky made it clear that such attention was not welcome.

See the double standard here? Two men, who could be perceived as being in a position of power/privilege over a woman, subjecting the woman to sexual attention, even though they did not know whether or not the woman would welcome it (unless Peezee talked it over with the woman he picked from the audience beforehand - so far, he's made no indication that he did). In the case of EGuy, Becky made her discomfort clear*, and EGuy accepted it. And yet somehow, according to Peezee et al, EGuy should not have put a woman in such a situation in the first place. On the other hand, Peezee can bring a woman up to his stage and subject her to lewd remarks - sure, he'd have stopped if she said so; thereby he absolves himself of any impostion of power/privilege on his his part. So that's okay then.

Yet somehow, when EGuy complied with Becky's request, it wasn't enough. EGuy - and any male who does similar - is damt to hell.

Except, of course, when the sexual attention occurs of a stage in front of an audience.

Course, it could be argued that the intrinsic nature of the attention matters: EGuy may well have be trying to get laid; Peezee wasn't (presumably - I don't think he'd have been too displeased should the exceedingly unlikely have occurred, and the woman later went up to him and told him that his dirty talk had got her quite wet). But then one would have to concede that intent truly is magic.

*I'm working on the basis that what Becky said largely accords with reality than a thoroughly sloshed haze.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Reap » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:20 am  •  [Post 34726]

Dick Strawkins wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:
cunt wrote:Busted doing what? Making a bunch of shit jokes? Having zero comic timing? Sorry but that video was lame.

Busted doing the very thing he preaches against.


I almpst feel sorry for Peezus with this one.
That video was shot in late 2010. It wasn't until 8 months later at Elevatorgate that he became a lifelong feminist.

Was it sexist behavior?
That question is rather subjective.
In terms of adult, sex positive humor, it's more a case of a lack of comedic ability that outright sexism.
On the other hand feminism has two major strands, the sex positives (for example Greta Christina) and the sex negavitives (Ophelia, Taslima, skeptifem, etc)
In terms of sex negative feminism what Peezus did was a huge error.
They will look on this video and see it in a completely different light than the sex positives.
Sex negatives, as the name implies, will view any assumption of sex (and in particular heterosexual sex) as being potentially violating towards the wishes and feelings of the woman (the 'victim' in this case) - even if it is done in jest. They do not have a sense of humor about this subject.
For example they will ask: "What if this woman was a survivor of sexual assault? Wouldn't joking about having sex with her (and without asking permission) be triggering of her memories of her prior assault?"
They will also ask: "Would Peezus have made the same joke if it was a man who volunteered rather than a woman?"
I would suggest that these are reasonable objections - it is potentially distressing for someone to be joked about in a sexual manner, and, despite his supposed liberal views, it's hard to imagine that Peezus would make the same jokes with a man on stage - even a man he knew, like Laden - because these types of jokes he was aiming for are pretty much the tropes of college sex-positive, fratty humor.
In fact one of the major objections of the sex negatives towards skeptical meetings has been the 'fratboy' atmosphere of the meetings - and whatever you thought of the sexist or not sexist aspect of Peezus 'jokes', there is a clear 'fratboy' element to them that will have disgusted the sex negatives.
In fact you can tell that Ophelia is annoyed by it because she is doing exactly what she always does whenever someone on her side is exposed as a hypocrite.
She is absolutely ignoring the entire matter.
She has time for Justin Vaculas stupid comments (sorry Justin, but you made an arse of yourself with that needlework comment) but no time for explaining why Peezus wasn't sexist.
Her habit of doing this (picking up on any minor borderline transgression and writing a series of posts about it, but sticking her fingers in her ears, closing her eyes and going la-la-la, whenever one of her own side fucks up) is such a feature of her writing these days that you can use it as a reliable test of whether any particular action is seen as sexist to the sex negatives. A prime example is in the Mark Zuckerberg "I'm CEO, Bitch." post. Someone in the comments posted a link to the Peezus "It works, bitches" post and asked it Ophelia would like to criticize the sexism there too.
What do you think happened?
Ophelia: "Yes, that's sexist too but thankfully PZ has changed since then.
or
Straight down the memory hole.

By the way, back to the question of whether the action of Peezuz was sexist, does anyone have any question what the pharyngula horde - who now see no problem whatsoever of that behavior- would be saying if it wasn't Peezus up there making sex jokes, but was, in fact, Michael Shermer, Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris?



Exactly my point. As far as PZ changing, yea he has changed into an extremist. I'm wondering if something didn't happen to cause him to flip on the feminism thing. For such a lame video the responses show us a few things about PZ and his followers. None of them good so far.FYI- PZ's bad comedic skills and timing aren't what I'm talking about
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:29 am  •  [Post 34727]

Mykeru wrote:
Meanwhile: the newly leaked Laden-Svan sex tape:

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Fap, fap fap *cries in shame* fap, fap, fap.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby JackRayner » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:29 am  •  [Post 34728]

John Brown wrote:My original point was to clarify that Sommers wasn't talking about "chivalry." She was talking about being "civilized," which implies the overall construct of civilization.

As for the definition of civilization, you're right...it's completely subjective in narrow terms. In broad terms, it just means people getting together to take advantage of a manual division of labor. With that comes any number of regulations, laws, and morals so said labor can be carried out.

In my view, nature must first be conquered before civilization flourishes, but it is the construct of civilization which generally keeps us in check from being brutish. This is why the whole "rape is about power and not sex" trope is complicated (at best) and flatly untrue (at worst). Occurrences of rape do tend to happen when civilization breaks down (as people like Stephen Pinker have pointed out). But, so do other atrocities.


I will be repeating myself again on this, essentially, but maybe putting it differently will help get the message across better [not that "you've got some thoughts based on premises that you should think through a bit more" was very direct to begin with]. I think there is enough reason to believe that the organizing of "society" (I'm substituting it in for "civilization", since I feel like your definition includes parts that are unnecessary in a discussion about human interaction) *IS* part of human "nature".

This "nature" term might be problematic as well, as far as semantics go, so I will give you my brief definition and you can tell me if you disagree or not. Nature, concerning behavior, is how something is innately inclined to behave.

Now, seeing as how morality is most likely innate for us (as it has also been observed and recorded in other group-living animals, and it is plain to see why it would be naturally selected for in group-living animals), I don't see any reason to believe that society/civilization is an outcome of "conquering nature". Society/civilization is an outcome of our nature. The only way that society/civilization could be seen as a "conquering [of our own] nature", would be if one believed we were no different from every other animal...

Believe me, I understand we can go down a rabbit hole of semantics very, very quickly in this discussion. We are "civilized" but we engage in wars which have killed tens of thousands of people in the past ten years, for example.

I also agree with your point about Euro-centrism. We have an very nasty habit of viewing most everything through that lens. You wanna talk about atrocities? Just a cursory glance at Chinese (or Asian) history makes everything any European power ever did look like peanuts.


If you lump all of the "Asians" into one homogeneous group, then yeah. That might seem like so. But "Asians" are not some homogeneous group. And I'm not just talking about differences between Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, ect. Tribalism, I'm sure you know, happens on a level much more "micro" than that. When you accept that morality is relative (do you disagree?), and that this morality does not apply to "out-groups", then you might not come to see all of the fighting done between and within these nations as atrocities.

This last point probably seems to contradict a point that I brought up earlier, but my "And as if 'civilized' people have never committed atrocities." quip was kind of a throwaway that I didn't put much thought into.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby real horrorshow » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:33 am  •  [Post 34729]

papillon wrote:Yeh Zac, you tell 'em..


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Stop criticising me so I can continue criticising the people who are being defended from criticism.
Haha, his mind is truly addled.

Hmm, at least the phrasing makes it clear that the FC(n) and 'skeptical and atheist big shots' are two distinct and separate groups. And that burns doesn't it precious? It burnssss.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:38 am  •  [Post 34730]

@Tigzy. Even if PZ came out and said the woman in tehe audience was a plant and it was all rehearsed beforehand he's still encouraging and using sexist language. Normally I wouldn't give a frig abut such a tame exchange ( I take more offense at how shit and embarrasing his jokes are rather than the content) but the double standards he's displaying are mind boggling. Any normal person would say "yeah, I was wrong, I was being sexist then and I've changed" but no.... PZ is a baboon and an admission of being wrong is:
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:39 am  •  [Post 34731]

Tony Parsehole wrote:
Mykeru wrote:
Meanwhile: the newly leaked Laden-Svan sex tape:

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Fap, fap fap *cries in shame* fap, fap, fap.


Well, at least they're proved the cowpat cure for baldness works.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby JackRayner » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:42 am  •  [Post 34732]

John Brown wrote:In my view, nature must first be conquered before civilization flourishes, but it is the construct of civilization which generally keeps us in check from being brutish. This is why the whole "rape is about power and not sex" trope is complicated (at best) and flatly untrue (at worst). Occurrences of rape do tend to happen when civilization breaks down (as people like Stephen Pinker have pointed out). But, so do other atrocities.


I want to come back to this, because I left out my thoughts on your comment on rape (concerning society/civilization and morality).

The place I stand on at the moment, informed by what I currently know about sexuality (across species [not between them, freaks]), is that rape is about sex (and sex is about...). The reasons why an individual might not stick to their society's social norms, and why another might under similar circumstance will vary, but that's a whole nother coversation. What I will say, though, is that I wouldn't look at the rape of the "out-group's" people as a violation of the "in-group's" (and therefore that individual's) morality. As I said before, morality is subjective, and [in bad-to-worst case scenarios] we do not apply this morality to out-groups. Even less when we are in conflict with them.

Your "when civilization breaks down" is pretty vague, so you're free to elaborate on that if you don't feel like my thoughts above addressed it well enough...
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:45 am  •  [Post 34733]

Tony Parsehole wrote:@Tigzy. Even if PZ came out and said the woman in tehe audience was a plant and it was all rehearsed beforehand he's still encouraging and using sexist language. Normally I wouldn't give a frig abut such a tame exchange ( I take more offense at how shit and embarrasing his jokes are rather than the content) but the double standards he's displaying are mind boggling. Any normal person would say "yeah, I was wrong, I was being sexist then and I've changed" but no.... PZ is a baboon and an admission of being wrong is:


What gets me are lame-ass excuses he came out with - because, of course, no-one who's ever been caught out on a sexual harrassment charge as ever said, 'Oh, I was only joking. Just a bit of banter. Everyone could see that. If she didn't like it, she should have said something.'

Seriously, the shit Peezee pulled on that stage could land you with a reprimand - and a dismissal, if you continued with it - if you tried it at work.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Mykeru » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:47 am  •  [Post 34734]

Tigzy wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
Mykeru wrote:
Meanwhile: the newly leaked Laden-Svan sex tape:

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Fap, fap fap *cries in shame* fap, fap, fap.


Well, at least they're proved the cowpat cure for baldness works.


Well, tweeting that pissed off some people who informed me YOU AREN'T HELPING WITH THAT SHIT!

Yeah, changing the world on Twitter. Great idea. I've noticed recently as the baboolies continue to flame out, there are people on our side who are now jockeying to be the conscience. I've had a couple DMs from fucking idiots who think the have standards that need to be followed.

One, the Y U NO guy is just a tired clown, the other I'm pretty convinced is either a concern troll or the "girl-on-the-net" sockpuppet of another idiot.

The danger is becoming the very thing we are opposing and I'm already seeing some people make desperate pleas for winning-through-groupthink.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Parge » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:47 am  •  [Post 34735]

sacha wrote:PZ is a submissive/masochist. There is not a chance in hell he can be dominant sexually.


This is the most emasculating thing I've read today! I mean, it's only a quarter to nine, but given the context of this assessment, all I can say is bravo!

Which reminds me, this is the most emasculating thing I've seen all year:

[youtube]mUXzAYLmvPQ[/youtube]

Which should make it pretty clear why I'm all on board for emasculation.

Carry on.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby d4m10n » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:50 am  •  [Post 34736]

Dick Strawkins wrote:Can you imagine what response Shermer would have got if he offered a lousy excuse like that! :shock:


Yeah, that is pretty weak. Still don't think the poker segment was anything worth kerfuffling over, except maybe to note that sex jokes should shouldn't be considered verboten at skeptical events directed at adults.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:01 am  •  [Post 34737]

Mykeru wrote:
Well, tweeting that pissed off some people who informed me YOU AREN'T HELPING WITH THAT SHIT!



My response to the "You aren't helping!" challenge:
"And...?"
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby JackRayner » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:05 am  •  [Post 34738]

Trophy wrote:
JackRayner wrote:
Trophy wrote:Okay I should clarify. Anita's views are open to criticism just like anyone's so criticising her views are not sexist or whatever. So that's out of the way. However, I do have a beef with people who shove their opinion in somebody else's face. That can be harrassment and/or sexist. If you don't like what I post you can reply to me, disagree with me or whatever. But you can't repeatedly email me random bullshit. That's harrassment. So, Anita's views are open to criticism and some of it is valid but some of the hostile reaction is becaues she is a woman.


Novice internet user, meet Internet Troll.

Of course, it is possible her "sexist detector" is kind of biased and is giving her a lot of false positives.


Ya think? Have you seen a single one of her videos, or a single one of the countless videos criticizing her nonsense?


The existence of internet trolls makes the kind of responses that she get predictable. It doesn't make them okay. For example, if I go to Ophelia's blog and criticise her, I'm expected to get banned but it doens't make it right.


It doesn't make them Ok, but it also doesn't make them "sexism/misogyny", or a cause for serious concern. Anyone approaching the internet with an overly sensitive attitude should refrain from doing anything that will leave them open to public criticism, whether it is legitimate or just trolling. Bottom line! Anyone with an overly sensitive attitude, but who also spews nonsense that offends the most internet frequenting/internet savvy people? Ha. Hahaha!

[No necessarily directed at Trophy, unless Trophy holds this view]To anyone that would reply to this with "Oh, but person X committed suicide because of internet trolling!", I have this much to say: People are stupid. People have committed suicide over things as stupid as hearing their favorite T.V. show is being cancelled. "But it was a kid/teenager!", you say? Kids and teenagers are stupider. [/Not necessarily directed at Trophy, unless Trophy holds this view]

And, no, I've not really dug deep into her videos or her responses. My personal opinion is that there is a lot of sexism in video games but 1) it's not all directed at women. In Dragon Age I all guys have fucking six packs. Literally, any half naked young male has a six pack even if he is a rich royalty who doesn't move his ass. And 2) the worst kind of sexism usually happen in shitty games that I don't play or care about and normally they don't sell very well either.


Have you ever of this term?: Fantasy.

Fantasy, fantasy, fantasy. Why is this concept so difficult for people to understand?! What you are carelessly and irresponsibly labeling "sexism" is nothing more than idealized physiques. Now please tell me all about how fashion models are destroying the fabric of time and space one pose at a time...
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Reap » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:06 am  •  [Post 34739]

Tigzy wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:@Tigzy. Even if PZ came out and said the woman in tehe audience was a plant and it was all rehearsed beforehand he's still encouraging and using sexist language. Normally I wouldn't give a frig abut such a tame exchange ( I take more offense at how shit and embarrasing his jokes are rather than the content) but the double standards he's displaying are mind boggling. Any normal person would say "yeah, I was wrong, I was being sexist then and I've changed" but no.... PZ is a baboon and an admission of being wrong is:


What gets me are lame-ass excuses he came out with - because, of course, no-one who's ever been caught out on a sexual harrassment charge as ever said, 'Oh, I was only joking. Just a bit of banter. Everyone could see that. If she didn't like it, she should have said something.'

Seriously, the shit Peezee pulled on that stage could land you with a reprimand - and a dismissal, if you continued with it - if you tried it at work.


PZ seems to have made sexual banter a normal part of his interaction at least with younger women. Let's not forget how long PZ says he has been a feminist ( age 15 or so I think) As a speaker at such an event doing such a demonstration you should not be saying anything you wouldn't say to the opposite gender. Would PZ have used the same routine if it was a male standing in front of him?
I am not offended by the material really but it was the wrong place for it. If it was my daughter who was called up and then PZ talked to her like that I wouldn't be real happy or very impressed. It's not amateur night at the club, it's a skeptical conference, he is a professor of biology. The rest of his talk went pretty well cause he does the biology thing better than he does social interaction.
Now at least we know what is acceptable since PZ has not said his behavior was wrong. I think it is a safe bet PZ does play poker on stage again for a while, just like he hasn't done the A+/atheism with a soul talk again or just like Rebecca hasn't done the EP talk again to the best of my knowledge anyway. I'd love to hear what she has/would change about it if anything.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby real horrorshow » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:09 am  •  [Post 34740]

Mykeru wrote:
Meanwhile: the newly leaked Laden-Svan sex tape:

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I'll give him this much: He's a dogged little fucker... I'll get me coat.
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