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PZ's new Wonder Woman.
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... /#comments
That young lady who impudently scorned the InfoWars hack has done us a service. She’s shown us how to properly treat liars and nutjobs: cuss ’em out, flip ’em off, and walk away. They don’t deserve more.
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Oh, no wonder I missed it. I thought you were referring to something about them trying to ban more skeptics from conferences. :doh:Brive1987 wrote:PZ's new Wonder Woman.
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... /#comments
That young lady who impudently scorned the InfoWars hack has done us a service. She’s shown us how to properly treat liars and nutjobs: cuss ’em out, flip ’em off, and walk away. They don’t deserve more.
I guess Becky is getting a bit long in the tooth, so PZ has moved on to a clone of her who is so under-aged that he won't have to worry about her getting a case of the middle-aged uglies for quite a while. Yikes! :shock:
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Whatever happened to shanking them in the belly? PZ's gone soft.Lsuoma wrote:http://archive.is/d2lsdBrive1987 wrote:
PZ's new Wonder Woman.
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... /#comments
That young lady who impudently scorned the InfoWars hack has done us a service. She’s shown us how to properly treat liars and nutjobs: cuss ’em out, flip ’em off, and walk away. They don’t deserve more.
Yes, I'm leaving that last sentence out there for mischief. Tuvok?
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Thank youLsuoma wrote:http://archive.is/d2lsdBrive1987 wrote:
PZ's new Wonder Woman.
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... /#comments
That young lady who impudently scorned the InfoWars hack has done us a service. She’s shown us how to properly treat liars and nutjobs: cuss ’em out, flip ’em off, and walk away. They don’t deserve more.
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Welcome back An Atheist.An Atheist wrote:Hi everyone! I'd like to inform you of the publication of my satirical epic "Elevatorgate", which is free for download on my website: https://anatheist.jimdo.com/
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I see to recall him saying that facts do not matter?
How do you have any credibility after that?
Whatever man. Fuck. (Die Antwoord)
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Those three party girls at the beginning look like they were ridden hard and put away wet. What struck me is that while they do look better than Watson does these days I see desperation in their faces.feathers wrote:Perhaps he meant Las Ketchup?Scented Nectar wrote:Uh oh, I have no idea who you're talking about. Has Lsuoma gone and swapped out words for other words again, or is there actually someone named Ketchup?
(You know, despite my potentially dismissive snark, I get the impression that Watson is looking worse and worse every time one of you posts her image here).
Rewatch the video if you did not see it at first. Am I imagining things? I am notorious for misreading people which is why I ask.
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Obligatory:Lsuoma wrote: One thing I forgot to mention is that I am chemically modified. I'm taking 50mg of sertraline (Zoloft) per day, now working to 25mg/day. I was originally prescribed citalopram (Celexa) but it made me sick, nauseous, and gave me a dry mouth. Even though they are both apparently SSRIs, the chemical structures are very different, and sertraline works where citalopram made things worse.
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Zoloft worked fairly well over a decade for me but gradually became less useful. A switch to Venlafaxane has worked out well since then.BoxNDox wrote:Obligatory:Lsuoma wrote: One thing I forgot to mention is that I am chemically modified. I'm taking 50mg of sertraline (Zoloft) per day, now working to 25mg/day. I was originally prescribed citalopram (Celexa) but it made me sick, nauseous, and gave me a dry mouth. Even though they are both apparently SSRIs, the chemical structures are very different, and sertraline works where citalopram made things worse.
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My nephew mentioned to me somethng about doing a google search for 'american inventors', I tried it and came up with this:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/ ... neotrs.jpg
Notice anything about the strip of pictures of inventors?
So does DuckGoGo do any better?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/ ... entors.jpg
So it is true. Blacks invented everything. Like all of those ebonic history lessons on Youtube have been telling us. Whitey stole everything from blacks.
We are such assholes. Hey, that smartphone or tablet your reading this with right now? Blacks invented, you stole it, give it to the next black person you see and tell them your sorry for stealing it from them.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/ ... neotrs.jpg
Notice anything about the strip of pictures of inventors?
So does DuckGoGo do any better?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/ ... entors.jpg
So it is true. Blacks invented everything. Like all of those ebonic history lessons on Youtube have been telling us. Whitey stole everything from blacks.
We are such assholes. Hey, that smartphone or tablet your reading this with right now? Blacks invented, you stole it, give it to the next black person you see and tell them your sorry for stealing it from them.
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If I am not mistaken, Duck Duck Go just pulls their search data from google. All they do is obfuscate the requests so that google does not track your history.
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That's old news. It's because the main search which contains "american inventors" is actually "african american inventors".
Try US inventors and you'll be much less surprised.
Try US inventors and you'll be much less surprised.
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Wow. That is a ten-mile hike down Memory Lane. Well done. :clap: :clap: :clap:An Atheist wrote:Hi everyone! I'd like to inform you of the publication of my satirical epic "Elevatorgate", which is free for download on my website: https://anatheist.jimdo.com/
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The Epic Trinity:RebeccaB wrote:Wow. That is a ten-mile hike down Memory Lane. Well done. :clap: :clap: :clap:An Atheist wrote:Hi everyone! I'd like to inform you of the publication of my satirical epic "Elevatorgate", which is free for download on my website: https://anatheist.jimdo.com/
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So it is true. Blacks invented everything. Like all of those ebonic history lessons on Youtube have been telling us. Whitey stole everything from blacks.
We are such assholes. Hey, that smartphone or tablet your reading this with right now? Blacks invented, you stole it, give it to the next black person you see and tell them your sorry for stealing it from them.
Did black people invent sneekers?
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Scented Nectar wrote:The kid is not ONLY unfortunate in getting a Watson-like look. She also seems to have her personality!
jimhabegger wrote:Actually, she looks a lot like Ketchup to me, or how she might have looked ten years ago. Do you think ...?
https://www.villagevoice.com/2013/09/17 ... d-ketchup/Scented Nectar wrote:Uh oh, I have no idea who you're talking about. Has Lsuoma gone and swapped out words for other words again, or is there actually someone named Ketchup?
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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Cracked + Eiynah = a match made in heaven?
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experie ... -life.html
That's Nice Mangos isn't it?
Rather a mixed bag - I was a bit put off by her twitter-spat with Yasmin Mohommed.
She has a blog too - if anyone is interested:
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Looking further down the Breaking911 feed:shoutinghorse wrote:
Did black people invent sneekers?
No wonder they cover themselves up.
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Thanks. I appreciate that.InfraRedBucket wrote:Anyway to lighten the mood, here's a funny catwalk I saw the other day.
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I suppose the white guys were forming human chains to help people trapped in cars.shoutinghorse wrote: Did black people invent sneekers?
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I hope that day never comes. That would grieve me.GenerallyFading wrote:... and one day I may decide that enough is enough.
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What happened to Com? I miss him. The Pit isn't the same for me without him.Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:... until Comstink returns
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So was there?jimhabegger wrote:I hope that day never comes. That would grieve me.GenerallyFading wrote:... and one day I may decide that enough is enough.
I never seriously considered suicide, but there was a time in my life when I could feel the temptation. For me, it was enough to think that I was going to die anyway some day, and there might possibly still be something in my future that I wouldn't want to miss.
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I have to say that I don't mind Eiynah, for the most part. The Cracked article wasn't bad: she rightly pointed out that Reza Aslan is a charlatan, she supported Ali Rizvi, she argued that liberal people should never shield islam from criticism and pointed out that celebrating the hijab is "problematic". All of which is true, and a far cry from the Sarsour-worshiping Regressive Leftists who think that hijabs are "symbols of resistance" or "feminist".MarcusAu wrote:Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Cracked + Eiynah = a match made in heaven?
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experie ... -life.html
That's Nice Mangos isn't it?
Rather a mixed bag - I was a bit put off by her twitter-spat with Yasmin Mohommed.
She has a blog too - if anyone is interested:
http://nicemangos.blogspot.co.uk/2017/0 ... latan.html
Even the general gist of her position isn't that bad: defend the civil rights of muslims because they're people and they deserve the same civil rights of everyone else while you never stop criticizing islam for its many, many, horrible flaws. I'm on board with that.
She pointed out that the progressive muslims/ex-muslims are erased and censored by the Regressive Left:
She even repeatedly and clearly pointed out that an accusation of "islamophobia" is used to silence criticism of islam:And on the left, secular liberal Muslims continue to be censored or culturally erased
The problem with Eiynah aren't her positions. She's not a Regressive Leftist by any means, and she has righfully criticized the Regressive Left many times. The problem is that while her nuanced position is good she's a bit too quick to judge others for their positions, especially if they criticize islam as a whole instead of posting the usual "political" or "traditional" or "literalist" caveats.This is part of the reason Eiynah doesn't like the term "Islamophobia": "Allowing any criticism of Islamic fundamentalism, homophobia, etc. to be labeled as 'Islamophobia' gives right-wing fundamentalist Muslims a chance to shield their religion from valid criticism. It's essentially the same thing right-wing Christians [do]. Think of the absurdity of the 'War on Christmas' to get a feel for how 'Islamophobia' sounds to us. That's why I prefer the more precise term 'anti-Muslim bigotry.' The problem is not theological criticisms of Islam or criticisms of literalist interpretations -- it is the generalizations, hatred, and fearmongering around Muslims."
It's good to have nuance but it's hard, so I don't blame her for some occasional slip-ups. What I don't like are when she's far too quick to assume that some other ex-muslims who disagree with her must sympathize with the "alt-right" or like Trump. Also she doesn't take criticism as well as she should, but then again, who am I to talk after the "laying the pipes" debacle when I threatened people with lawsuits (not my proudest moment)?
Overall: Eiynah is someone who's on my side, and I'd like to be on hers, but she alienates people by getting into petty fights. Still she's light years better than Myers and his merry band of Sarsour apologists.
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Apparently there are only 10,200 wrestling gifs on the web.jimhabegger wrote:What happened to Com? I miss him. The Pit isn't the same for me without him.Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:... until Comstink returns
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We have nine months of summer here in Guilin, for whatever it's worth. Send me a PM for my VPN recommendations.feathers wrote:The Caribbeans and the Antilles should be cheap now, and all hotels have an open sun roof.free thoughtpolice wrote:My psoriasis improves during the summer especially the patches that are exposed to the sunlight. I can't say whether stress makes it worse though it wouldn't surprise me. I tried getting a prescription for a tropical vacation after my doctor suggested it but was told that our shitty Canadian health system wouldn't pay for it. :x
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Look, in a hurricane people need dry shoes. And if they feel they need two dozen dry shoes, who are we to judge them?shoutinghorse wrote: Did black people invent sneekers?
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:D zomg, yes! I married someone who made all my dreams come true. I've loved my life for decades now, and I love it more and more year after year. Apart from some minor irritations like being cheated out of $100 by ArenaNet.Brive1987 wrote:So was there?jimhabegger wrote:[... and there might possibly still be something in my future that I wouldn't want to miss.
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Did you know FT is retiring on $300k a year?jimhabegger wrote::D zomg, yes! I married someone who made all my dreams come true. I've loved my life for decades now, and I love it more and more year after year. Apart from some minor irritations like being cheated out of $100 by ArenaNet.Brive1987 wrote:So was there?jimhabegger wrote:[... and there might possibly still be something in my future that I wouldn't want to miss.
That'll do it for you.
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She's not wrong on Jordy-Boy, either. He IS more than a little nutso, even though he's right about the "special pronouns" brigade being nuts.
Not all of her attacks against Peterson are completely fair, though. On the issue of "special pronouns" Peterson is more right that she says he is, and while there's plenty of crazy, loopy or regressive stuff in Peterson's lectures this quote doesn't seem very objectionable to me:
Women are ON AVERAGE less risk-prone and having children IS harder to reconcile with a demanding job, especially while you're pregnant.
This doesn't mean that women who DO work in risky or demanding jobs and either don't have children or manage to reconcile cihldren and demanding work are necessarily going to be unhappy as Jordy-boy tries to argue. More power to you if you can have kids and a full-time career in a demanding job, and if you don't want children you shouldn't be forced to have them just to "perpetuate your race" or other idiotic white identitarian reason.
Hell, there are so many people in the world than more women deciding not to have children in every country on earth would probably be a rather good thing to prevent overpopulation. Indeed I think that if there's any hope to reduce conflicts it lies with avoiding over-competition over resources and so voluntary reduction of fertility is a very good thing.
But as studies have shown women ON AVERAGE tend to want to work in fields (education, social work, etc.) that pay less than fields which ON AVERAGE women like less (economics or engineering). This is one of the causes of the pay gap and ON ITS OWN it has nothing to do with prejudice.
The rest of Eiynah's blogpost is actually interesting in presenting a lot of Peterson's loopy or regressive opinions. I too am baffled by Peterson's popularity, although I think that it's his anti-SJW stuff that drives it.
This is very true. Peterson has a really WEIRD approach to truth, which is as loopy as post-modernism. Also the weird TradLife/religious woo is the antithesis of a scientific and secular world view.In his two hour conversation with Sam Harris he couldn’t really define 'truth'. He is basically the religious conservative version of what he criticizes re:postmodernism. Dislikes the pronoun Xir because apparently thats just leftist nonsense….but can’t decide on what truth means.
Not all of her attacks against Peterson are completely fair, though. On the issue of "special pronouns" Peterson is more right that she says he is, and while there's plenty of crazy, loopy or regressive stuff in Peterson's lectures this quote doesn't seem very objectionable to me:
This is true. I think Peterson is dishonestly trying to use this truth to advocate that women shouldn't pursue risky or demanding careers "for their own good", which is absurd, as women aren't fragile porcelain dolls who should stay behind and procreate and leave the dirty work to men. However it IS true that risky or demanding jobs are paid more and that's one of the reasons for the gender pay gap.“Men do almost all the dangerous jobs and outside work. There’s lots of reasons that men get paid more than women that have *nothing to do with prejudice*”
Women are ON AVERAGE less risk-prone and having children IS harder to reconcile with a demanding job, especially while you're pregnant.
This doesn't mean that women who DO work in risky or demanding jobs and either don't have children or manage to reconcile cihldren and demanding work are necessarily going to be unhappy as Jordy-boy tries to argue. More power to you if you can have kids and a full-time career in a demanding job, and if you don't want children you shouldn't be forced to have them just to "perpetuate your race" or other idiotic white identitarian reason.
Hell, there are so many people in the world than more women deciding not to have children in every country on earth would probably be a rather good thing to prevent overpopulation. Indeed I think that if there's any hope to reduce conflicts it lies with avoiding over-competition over resources and so voluntary reduction of fertility is a very good thing.
But as studies have shown women ON AVERAGE tend to want to work in fields (education, social work, etc.) that pay less than fields which ON AVERAGE women like less (economics or engineering). This is one of the causes of the pay gap and ON ITS OWN it has nothing to do with prejudice.
The rest of Eiynah's blogpost is actually interesting in presenting a lot of Peterson's loopy or regressive opinions. I too am baffled by Peterson's popularity, although I think that it's his anti-SJW stuff that drives it.
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In general the problem is that there's no strong modern, pro-Enlightenment, pro-freedom of choice, pro-science social movement which isn't infested to some degree by the SJW identitarian PoMo crap, so the anti-modern, ethnic or religious collectivist, religious or ethnic identitarians are the only ones who are offering some intellectual clout to the anti-SJW crowd.
This isn't good. If the choice becomes between SJW identitarians and white identitarians/religious nutjobs then we're screwed. There are a few people who are neither, I'd wager that there's a lot of them actually, but they're not getting publicity for the most part. Social media seem to reward the nutters on both the left and the right with lots of free publicity, and so the inmates are running the asylums.
Basically we NEED an anti-SJW left. We really do, and sooner rather than later.
This isn't good. If the choice becomes between SJW identitarians and white identitarians/religious nutjobs then we're screwed. There are a few people who are neither, I'd wager that there's a lot of them actually, but they're not getting publicity for the most part. Social media seem to reward the nutters on both the left and the right with lots of free publicity, and so the inmates are running the asylums.
Basically we NEED an anti-SJW left. We really do, and sooner rather than later.
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Not so. Part of his job was to help make the Pit more fun for me, and that job will never be done.Brive1987 wrote:Apparently there are only 10,200 wrestling gifs on the web.jimhabegger wrote:What happened to Com? I miss him. The Pit isn't the same for me without him.
His job was done.
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He's often on twitter if you want to find him.jimhabegger wrote:Not so. Part of his job was to help make the Pit more fun for me, and that job will never be done.Brive1987 wrote:Apparently there are only 10,200 wrestling gifs on the web.jimhabegger wrote:What happened to Com? I miss him. The Pit isn't the same for me without him.
His job was done.
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I'm not familiar with Vegan Gains - but did find that his video did highlight a some of the nuttier aspects of Peterson (or at least the way he chooses to make his case).
Peterson videos sometimes come across as more proscriptive than descriptive, and that he is quite adept at 'winning' an argument by making the opponent look foolish, rather than presenting his own case (and thus exposing it to criticism).
It's 2017 (current year) approx 10 years since the crest of the 'new atheist' wave - the push back is emerging (or the zeitgeist has changed) - and Peterson will be helping define what form it will take.
Peterson videos sometimes come across as more proscriptive than descriptive, and that he is quite adept at 'winning' an argument by making the opponent look foolish, rather than presenting his own case (and thus exposing it to criticism).
It's 2017 (current year) approx 10 years since the crest of the 'new atheist' wave - the push back is emerging (or the zeitgeist has changed) - and Peterson will be helping define what form it will take.
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Yup. I mean, it kind of exists, it just gets really no institutional power or even acknowledgement. Who is the politician (maybe Sanders, but that's still a bit off), or the news personality or what who represents this sort of anti-SJW leftist sentiment? Who has the big megaphone for that? Honestly, I don't know of anybody. That's the problem.Kirbmarc wrote:In general the problem is that there's no strong modern, pro-Enlightenment, pro-freedom of choice, pro-science social movement which isn't infested to some degree by the SJW identitarian PoMo crap, so the anti-modern, ethnic or religious collectivist, religious or ethnic identitarians are the only ones who are offering some intellectual clout to the anti-SJW crowd.
This isn't good. If the choice becomes between SJW identitarians and white identitarians/religious nutjobs then we're screwed. There are a few people who are neither, I'd wager that there's a lot of them actually, but they're not getting publicity for the most part. Social media seem to reward the nutters on both the left and the right with lots of free publicity, and so the inmates are running the asylums.
Basically we NEED an anti-SJW left. We really do, and sooner rather than later.
And I think largely it's because the attitude is that if you're not pro-SJW then you MUST be on the right, and that's where things go horribly wrong, be it the whole Athiesm+ thing or be it GamerGate or whatever. My personal opinion that it's the lack of understanding of the anti-SJW left, and the lack of institutional resources and because of that intellectual focus, that are behind a lot of the current nastiness in society. It's unnecessary polarization.
Which is why my goal isn't actually to convert people to the anti-SJW left. It's simply to convince them that such a thing exists, and what we actually believe. (That identitarians on both the left and the right act in often bigoted fashions, as is apt to come with identitarian ideology)
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The new trend among Twitter feminists is that if a man disagrees with a woman they're mansplaining even if the woman is clearly wrong...unless the woman is criticizing feminism itself, then she can be told to shut up, demonized, smeared and even insulted. :lol:
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There is much criticism of the rise of white separatism amoungst the poor working class whites.
But I don't see it as being distinct from 'white flight' which has been de facto for the white middle class for over half a century. Although, it may not necessarily be racist to move to a better neighbourhood as your economic situation improves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight
But I don't see it as being distinct from 'white flight' which has been de facto for the white middle class for over half a century. Although, it may not necessarily be racist to move to a better neighbourhood as your economic situation improves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight
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Evolution of "mansplaining": "we don't have evidence, but we feel our voices as women aren't valued enough because men intervene too much">>"men should NEVER disagree with us, even if we're wrong!">>"everyone who disagrees with us is a fascist misogynistic bastard, including women!"
Evidence-free arguments based on feelings and points of view very easily degenerate into incoherent authoritarian tribalism. Valuing feelings and points of views doesn't lead to peaceful anarchic freedom, but to the tyranny of those who think of themselves as perpetual victims.
Evidence-free arguments based on feelings and points of view very easily degenerate into incoherent authoritarian tribalism. Valuing feelings and points of views doesn't lead to peaceful anarchic freedom, but to the tyranny of those who think of themselves as perpetual victims.
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She will not be informed of this, else she'll never take a bath at my place again. And I very much enjoy her taking baths.feathers wrote:Can you still rattle it? Scare the beejesus out of your g/f.Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Fucker still writhes if you touch it.
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Seems very quiet round here - is everyone still catching up with the Zoe Quinn autobiography?
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Hello All,
I'll put my hand up as another depressive - I suspect that I've been depressed to some extent for all of my adult life: wasn't until I married another sufferer that I was pushed into getting diagnosed. My chemicals of choice are Pristiq and mirtazapine.
"Exercise is moderately more effective than no therapy for reducing symptoms of depression.
Exercise is no more effective than antidepressants for reducing symptoms of depression, although this conclusion is based on a small number of studies.
Exercise is no more effective than psychological therapies for reducing symptoms of depression, although this conclusion is based on small number of studies.
The reviewers also note that when only high-quality studies were included, the difference between exercise and no therapy is less conclusive.
Attendance rates for exercise treatments ranged from 50% to 100%.
The evidence about whether exercise for depression improves quality of life is inconclusive."
There are plenty of other reviews http://www.cochranelibrary.com/topic/Me ... epression/
Of course, exercise has other benefits too. Pity I loathe most forms of exercise, and don't really see any improvement (in mood) when I do exercise, but that's just my personal experience.
What works for me is to do something - even something as mundane as washing up - but something which I can look at and say 'job done', and get a feeling of satisfaction from (at the moment, repairing my son's dinosaur toys - I have a T rex spinal surgery scheduled for as soon as I manage to pick up the right glue... ). Also having kids has changed my outlook on life - but that's probably not an option for everyone :).
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I'll put my hand up as another depressive - I suspect that I've been depressed to some extent for all of my adult life: wasn't until I married another sufferer that I was pushed into getting diagnosed. My chemicals of choice are Pristiq and mirtazapine.
As others have said, yes to all these, though their various efficacies are debated - for example, the Cochrane Review on exercise and depression found:deLurch wrote:OK. Two votes for "CBT" Clinical Behavioral Therapy as a good solution for depression.
Can either of you (Facisit Tit or Old_ones) give me a rough run down of what that involves?
Is there any knowledge as to if diet, exercise, socialization, dog (Hell Watson claims having a dog forced her to get dressed, not get high or drunk and leave the fucking house), help alleviate depression?
"Exercise is moderately more effective than no therapy for reducing symptoms of depression.
Exercise is no more effective than antidepressants for reducing symptoms of depression, although this conclusion is based on a small number of studies.
Exercise is no more effective than psychological therapies for reducing symptoms of depression, although this conclusion is based on small number of studies.
The reviewers also note that when only high-quality studies were included, the difference between exercise and no therapy is less conclusive.
Attendance rates for exercise treatments ranged from 50% to 100%.
The evidence about whether exercise for depression improves quality of life is inconclusive."
There are plenty of other reviews http://www.cochranelibrary.com/topic/Me ... epression/
Of course, exercise has other benefits too. Pity I loathe most forms of exercise, and don't really see any improvement (in mood) when I do exercise, but that's just my personal experience.
I could never really get my head round CBT - I understand what I'm supposed to do, but when I tried it, I couldn't get anywhere. I did/do use minfullness, but that, I find is most useful for situations where I can't focus because my mind is racing.Lsuoma wrote: Cognitive, not clinical: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive ... al_therapy
What works for me is to do something - even something as mundane as washing up - but something which I can look at and say 'job done', and get a feeling of satisfaction from (at the moment, repairing my son's dinosaur toys - I have a T rex spinal surgery scheduled for as soon as I manage to pick up the right glue... ). Also having kids has changed my outlook on life - but that's probably not an option for everyone :).
Thanks from here too. I may not post much, but I'm very grateful this site exists.deLurch wrote: As a side note to our Fascist: providing a platform for people to discuss the issues at hand where many felt like no platform was available has helped immeasurable. Many people from here have dived into gamer gate. Continued to dish out our accumulated knowledge in other forums and battles. And I largely suspect our mere existence has given other infrequent parties the strength to kick out their fully formed "unpopular" opinions on other platforms. Of course you could always pass the buck at any given time. But you have done good at a much needed time.
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I don't need my 'heroes' to be perfect. (I don't need heroes, but you get it.) Peterson's christianity sounds something like Brodie's or Spong's, and I can live with that.MarcusAu wrote:I'm not familiar with Vegan Gains - but did find that his video did highlight a some of the nuttier aspects of Peterson (or at least the way he chooses to make his case).
Peterson videos sometimes come across as more proscriptive than descriptive, and that he is quite adept at 'winning' an argument by making the opponent look foolish, rather than presenting his own case (and thus exposing it to criticism).
It's 2017 (current year) approx 10 years since the crest of the 'new atheist' wave - the push back is emerging (or the zeitgeist has changed) - and Peterson will be helping define what form it will take.
At 3:46, Peterson describes ritualistic ideology bereft of philosophy as a surrogate for religion, using veganism as an example. I don't have a problem for this. Peterson surely didn't intend it so, but it's a strong condemnation of SJW, Plusser-style humanism posing as atheism.
Vegan boy chose to completely ignore the context or Peterson's real point (a set-up of what he was being asked and the topic of that lecture would've been in order.) So I stopped watching. Also, because: vegans.
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Any remaining doubts that trans activists are batshit crazy above and beyond trans ID, may be dispelled thus:
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I think the new message coming from stories of Asian child grooming gangs is :-
Don't teach rapists not to rape.
Teach children how not to be vulnerable to grooming gangs.
Don't teach rapists not to rape.
Teach children how not to be vulnerable to grooming gangs.
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The video gave more of Peterson's personal background than I had previously known. He has had issues with depression, and both he & his daughter have had serious health problems. All of which point to him finding religion to be a comfort, rather than believing it because he finds it to be plausible.
Which would not necessarily be an issue - but when he chooses to make claims about atheism (the 'hyper-rationalists') or the alt-right (that they are 'incomplete' because their expressed patriotism indicates father issues - What?) or his bifurcation of 'truth' - indicate that it's the ends rather than the means that matters more to him.
As a clinical psychologist the temptation to view the entire world as a patient in need of treatment would seem to be overwhelming.
Which would not necessarily be an issue - but when he chooses to make claims about atheism (the 'hyper-rationalists') or the alt-right (that they are 'incomplete' because their expressed patriotism indicates father issues - What?) or his bifurcation of 'truth' - indicate that it's the ends rather than the means that matters more to him.
As a clinical psychologist the temptation to view the entire world as a patient in need of treatment would seem to be overwhelming.
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Nope. He puts it down to a ketogenic diet. He started Maps Of Meaning before he got married.MarcusAu wrote:The video gave more of Peterson's personal background than I had previously known. He has had issues with depression, and both he & his daughter have had serious health problems. All of which point to him finding religion to be a comfort, rather than believing it because he finds it to be plausible.
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I'm sympathetic to Peterson's personal circumstances.Keating wrote:Nope. He puts it down to a ketogenic diet. He started Maps Of Meaning before he got married.MarcusAu wrote:The video gave more of Peterson's personal background than I had previously known. He has had issues with depression, and both he & his daughter have had serious health problems. All of which point to him finding religion to be a comfort, rather than believing it because he finds it to be plausible.
But feel that much of his analysis, criticisms and lectures require some evidence or peer review - before I take what he says for granted.
Maybe I'll be the doubting Thomas, late to the table, and ultimately be proven wrong - if so I'll just have to live with it.