There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

[Brive1987]

Watson’s world. Broken vindictive narcissist.

[Lsuoma]

Poor Krauss. The condom was to bag Melody. Supersize.

The piece opens with a story of him aggressively coming onto a woman who wasn’t expecting it and didn’t want it. When he took out a condom, she left the room. She later called his actions “predatory”; he says they were “consensual.”

Read more at http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... Md2ibiP.99

[Brive1987]

Does anyone have the link to where Dunning recounts the time he and his wife were sexually harassed at TAM?

[Brive1987]

Got it

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2011/07/05/se ... kepticism/

[Brive1987]

http://i.imgur.com/1pIpi0a.jpg

[Brive1987]

http://i.imgur.com/1pIpi0a.jpg

[screwtape]

So was CAT PEOPLE* the first movie to feature trans*species characters? Or was it just your run-of-the-mill incest/bestiality/new-girlfriend-eats-the-old-girlfriend chick flick?

* yes, yes CURSE OF THE CAT PEOPLE came first

The 1982 movie was a remake of the 1942 Cat People.

Sadly the 1982 version doesn't stand rewatching; it was still about twenty years before Malcolm McDowell figured out how to act.

I'd walk with a zombie to watch any film by Val Lewton.

My own true love!

[MarcusAu]

It might be the right time to remind Watson of her own record with respect to screwing people over.

To whit - skipping out on her Bar tab when attending that Australian skeptic conference.

Her grudge against Dawkins has become weirdly non-specific - almost as if she expects people would stop listening by the time she got half-way through her explanation.

[Brive1987]

MarcusAu, the 2011 Dunning thing is a valuable garnish for the eager consumers of Watson’s shit sandwich.

[RonSwanson]

Watson trying to ride the #metoo wave? LOL. Shocking.

[Really?]

A speaker propositioned women at a conference and the women had the choice whether or not they had sex with the guy?

Say it isn't so!

[TheMudbrooker]

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[d4m10n]

A speaker propositioned women at a conference and the women had the choice whether or not they had sex with the guy?

I've never heard of such brazen behavior, aside from every avocational conference I've attended, anywhere, ever.

:twatson:

[Hunt]

Poor Krauss. The condom was to bag Melody. Supersize.

You mean to put over her head?

The piece opens with a story of him aggressively coming onto a woman who wasn’t expecting it and didn’t want it. When he took out a condom, she left the room. She later called his actions “predatory”; he says they were “consensual.”

"into" is predatory, "onto" is horny.

[CommanderTuvok]

Lol. It is a while since I've heard of Watson and Smellody in the news.

[Guest_d2e60302]

Interesting video...

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Lol. It is a while since I've heard of Watson and Smellody in the news.

The Skank is reduced to the broken record of 'I coulda been a contender', while Malady is reduced to regaining the limelight by claiming she's too mentally challenged to realize that, no, you don't go to a man's hotel room to just watch him do paperwork and eat cheese.

[Ape+lust]

The first thing out of the Skeeve's mouth on meeting Christopher Hitchens:

https://imgur.com/DHiAirM.png

Fuck her and her "men are mindless pervs" schtick.

[Ape+lust]

Oddly enough, PZ doesn't come out and call Krauss a rapist. I fear that shitlord of a lawyer of his has frozen his peaches.
http://archive.is/czRvH
The best he can do is say "I believe the women".

Peez already accused him, the same way he did Shermer -- someone I trust told me she was sexually assaulted by Lawrence Krauss.

Then the angry little pudge got cold feet, because he never brought it up again. In fact, he later tweeted at Krauss like he was chatting with an old acquaintance.

[Service Dog]

My formal complaint against Rebecca Watson (for her policy-violating sexual misconduct at Skepticon) remains unanswered, years later. #metooooooooo

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Well, that shitpost of Hemant's really brought out the screaming idiots. At least I got to tell a pronounced personal friend of Malady that xir friend is a moronic, mentally unstable buffoon. (I forgot to mention international meme of mockery.)

Curious as to why Hemant put this comment in mod:

It is an outrage for Hemant to say that making a person uncomfortable is not more defensible than raping that person. My condition after rape is far different from my condition after discomfort, and the person who inflicts one or the other on me has acted in very different ways. I'm made uncomfortable by many things that should not be and occasionally made uncomfortable by things that are no one's fault, but that is nothing like someone raping me.

That is the first concern with Hemant's piece. The second is that Lawrence Krauss' arguments and stated positions are what have value in the same way that Socrates' and Einstein's arguments and positions are what makes them valuable, not the individual personalities and actions of those persons. The Buzzfeed articles about both Krauss and Shermer make much out of the male dominated field of atheistic secular rationalism and implies that atheism itself is entangled with misogyny and sexual predation. Einstein's marital infidelity has no impact on the Theory of Relativity, and no one argues that point. We don't need societal icons and personal champions to argue on Relativity's behalf. What we needed was the Theory. And what do the Buzzfeed writers think? That an individual's sex chromosome configuration determines that person's ability to think rationally about reality? All persons have the neurological capacity to think rationally about the truth of religious propositions and whether belief in a supernatural agent is reasonable or not. Thinking human beings don't need rock stars as role models. What we do need are individuals who will research and write and argue on behalf of rationality and enlightenment. Lawrence Krauss has been exceptional in that field.

Regarding the charges, no one wants someone harming others, so if harm has been done then caring people want it stopped and prevented in the future and want the past to be redressed. We'll see where this goes with all the persons involved. But back to that first outrage; redress actually does distinguish between rape and discomfort. Walking out of a hotel room after rape is not the same as leaving a room where several sexual advances where unwanted and unwelcome. The failure to discriminate between different actions and their respective levels of intentionality and harm is an insult to Hemant's audience of clear minded rationalists.

I am, along with many of Hemant's readers, both a Humanist and a Feminist. I want all humans, all life for that matter, to be treated well. That goes for people named Melody Hensley as well as people named Lawrence Krauss. Both humans are important. I recoil from the unfair and aggressive treatment that Lawrence Krauss suffers at the hands of the Buzzfeed writers and from Hemant.

[AndrewV69]

Well at least the kids are enjoying themselves.

https://i.imgur.com/TsXsjfo.png

[AndrewV69]

Link to article is here https://www.buzzfeed.com/peteraldhous/l ... acA20GzAed

[AndrewV69]

:nin: :nin: :nin:

[Sunder]

Watson trying to ride the #metoo wave? LOL. Shocking.

Watson's entire career is a series of "me too"s. Her niche is waddling around in other peoples' professional shoes pretending they fit her when they're several sizes too big.

[Guest_d2e60302]

Well at least the kids are enjoying themselves.

https://i.imgur.com/TsXsjfo.png

Trudeau reminds me of this guy



If cultural appropriate were a concept, I wouldn't think Trudeau is guilty of it, but he does seem to be tourist. His clothes seem more like costumes and he comes off as the know nothing regal condescending to see the natives and then singalling his solidarity with the wogs.

I'd love to see him attend a Bar Mitzvah in Crown Heights in a homburg.

[Really?]

Watson trying to ride the #metoo wave? LOL. Shocking.

Watson's entire career is a series of "me too"s. Her niche is waddling around in other peoples' professional shoes pretending they fit her when they're several sizes too big.

Aside from her completely real experience in that Irish elevator, it seems like the rest of her crusade against men talking is driven on the basis of others. (Do we know if she met her current cash cow through that feminist tinder?)

It is very annoying that the lying loser with no ability who makes her living off of no ability is getting another boost from the fact free media.

[MarcusAu]

I would have expected her to gin up a juicy new scandal rather than give us another serving of warmed over leftovers.

Still, £863 per video is not too bad.

https://graphtreon.com/creator/rebecca

[Brive1987]

Dollars not British razoos.

Anyone really believe she got 2K extra twitter followers over the last couple of months?

[Brive1987]

PZ’s LK post has ..............

26 comments. Two of which are his.

Makes you pine for:

[Kirbmarc]

PZ’s LK post has ..............

26 comments. Two of which are his.

Makes you pine for:

The Pit is about as much active as Pharyngula these days.

Imagine a movie franchise failing so badly that its Rifftrax generate pretty much the same audience.

[Brive1987]

Hey Kirb.

This largely rational video, devoid of Nazism, presents Switzerland as a model for sorting the multicultural mess in Europe. Thoughts?

As a bonus the dude sounds like Mykeru without the hyperbole.

[Shatterface]

Watson trying to ride the #metoo wave? LOL. Shocking.

Watson's entire career is a series of "me too"s. Her niche is waddling around in other peoples' professional shoes pretending they fit her when they're several sizes too big.

You are saying she's one of Cinderella's pudgy sisters?

[MarcusAu]

Dollars not British razoos.

Anyone really believe she got 2K extra twitter followers over the last couple of months?

I blame the Russians.

[Ape+lust]

Leon's getting laaaaaaarger.

https://imgur.com/4yUbN0U.jpg

It's deliberate. More pounds == more curves, or something.

https://imgur.com/zfZW5IZ.jpg

Of course, to the non-delusional the effect isn't womanly. Usually, becoming more Muscato is to be avoided. But that's Zinnia, always the contrarian.

https://imgur.com/aFlSkTW.jpg

[Guest_d2e60302]

Leon's getting laaaaaaarger.

https://imgur.com/4yUbN0U.jpg

It's deliberate. More pounds == more curves, or something.

https://imgur.com/zfZW5IZ.jpg

Of course, to the non-delusional the effect isn't womanly. Usually, becoming more Muscato is to be avoided. But that's Zinnia, always the contrarian.

https://imgur.com/aFlSkTW.jpg

It's apparently referred to as "cultivating mass", but I'm not up to that season yet, so no spoilers.



Someone should make a computer program to show young twinky trannies what they will look like when they hit 28, esp when the estrogen and an American Diet really kick in and their teen metabolism dies.

[Hunt]

PZ’s LK post has ..............

26 comments. Two of which are his.

Makes you pine for:

The Pit is about as much active as Pharyngula these days.

Imagine a movie franchise failing so badly that its Rifftrax generate pretty much the same audience.

Oh, for it to be 2011 again! Those halcyon days.

[Clarence]

The vast majority of comments on that Buzzfeed News article are cancer and will destroy any remaining faith you have in humanity. PZ himself left two that I saw.

[Barbie's Boyfriend]

Leon's getting laaaaaaarger.

https://imgur.com/4yUbN0U.jpg

It's deliberate. More pounds == more curves, or something.

https://imgur.com/zfZW5IZ.jpg

Of course, to the non-delusional the effect isn't womanly. Usually, becoming more Muscato is to be avoided. But that's Zinnia, always the contrarian.

https://imgur.com/aFlSkTW.jpg

But does it make her girlcock bigger too ???

[InfraRedBucket]

[SM1957]

I wonder how Marvel is going to make money with its suggested new demographic of survivors of school shootings. Are people in the Guardian just insane?

[screwtape]

Hey Kirb.

This largely rational video, devoid of Nazism, presents Switzerland as a model for sorting the multicultural mess in Europe. Thoughts?

As a bonus the dude sounds like Mykeru without the hyperbole.

Here's a laugh for you:
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/guilt-o ... -in-canada

[screwtape]

Well at least the kids are enjoying themselves.

https://i.imgur.com/TsXsjfo.png

For a tour designed to increase trade with India, and to reassure the Indian government that the Canadian government isn't sympathetic to Sikh separatists, it possibly wasn't the smartest move to invite a Sikh convicted of attempted murder (of a Punjabi minister) to dinner with him during the trip. It's a sad day when Trudeau manages to make Trump look competent and sophisticated.

[MarcusAu]

I wonder how Marvel is going to make money with its suggested new demographic of survivors of school shootings. Are people in the Guardian just insane?

Through trade paperback and reprints...and of course the movies (though they are accounted for elsewhere).

There has been an established pattern of reboots (or a new-broom sweeping things clean) every 5-7 years for both Marvel and DC, dating back to the 1950s. This current 'Anti-PC' wave may be an indication of things turning in the cultural zeitgeist, or it may just be the normal circle of marketing life - time will tell.

nb Ta-Nahisi Coates will still be writing a Black Panther series though - for whatever that is worth.

[d4m10n]

More demands will be made in the wake of the L'affaire Krauss.

[Tigzy]

Hmmm... :think:

[Shatterface]

'Pandering to conservative readers' = targeting comics at people who actually read more than one issue a year.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Watson's entire career is a series of "me too"s. Her niche is waddling around in other peoples' professional shoes pretending they fit her when they're several sizes too big.

You are saying she's one of Cinderella's pudgy sisters?

Cinderella's pudgy sisters' pudgy feet were too big for the glass slipper. Cinderella had dainty little feet, which indicates a tight snatch, which is why the Prince was so keen on tracking her down.

[Tigzy]

'Pandering to conservative readers' = targeting comics at people who actually read more than one issue a year.

Seems odd that the Guardian journalist is so sour over it. Aren't these the same people who keep telling us that private corporations don't owe anyone a political platform?

[katamari Damassi]

Best chat up line evah! :D

Now we know why Carrier has such great teeth even though he can't afford dental insurance.

He does have one of the nicest smiles I've ever come across.

[Guest_ae9d5722]

I'm sorry, Tigzy. Are you saying that you expect principles to be applied consistently and not merely when expedient? lol

Related

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... -allbright


CaughtUpLockedOut

[Shatterface]

I wonder how Marvel is going to make money with its suggested new demographic of survivors of school shootings. Are people in the Guardian just insane?

Through trade paperback and reprints...and of course the movies (though they are accounted for elsewhere).

There has been an established pattern of reboots (or a new-broom sweeping things clean) every 5-7 years for both Marvel and DC, dating back to the 1950s. This current 'Anti-PC' wave may be an indication of things turning in the cultural zeitgeist, or it may just be the normal circle of marketing life - time will tell.

nb Ta-Nahisi Coates will still be writing a Black Panther series though - for whatever that is worth.

The movies follow the original characters: Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, etc. They're the characters the general public and the fanboys want to see. An SJW will buy the first edition of a reboot starring a Chinese lesbian with Down's syndrome as the Hulk and pat themselves on the back for diversity but they won't come back for issue 2.

[Karmakin]

The movies follow the original characters: Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, etc. They're the characters the general public and the fanboys want to see. An SJW will buy the first edition of a reboot starring a Chinese lesbian with Down's syndrome as the Hulk and pat themselves on the back for diversity but they won't come back for issue 2.

There's no ongoing cultural engagement, I think that's the big problem. And it's not really just a SJW thing (although SJW culture in particular is bad for not even attempting it), but by and large western comics really don't penetrate any sort of cultural zeitgeist. Anime and manga does, substantially more, IMO.

What I mean by that is that there's no resonance. So it doesn't really get a chance to spread past the core fans, which is why Marvel alienating them is such a big mistake. Like I said, on the regular I'll hear significantly more anime/manga references than ones referring to strictly Western comics. (Meaning past the movies). I'm significantly more likely to see a reference to "Don't Lose Your Way" (from Kill la Kill), or something referring to either the whole Dr. Marcoh thing, or "It's Raining" from Fullmetal Alchemist than I am any Western comic. And that can't compare to video games. Not even close.

In terms of cultural impact, Western comics are so low down the totem pole it's embarrassing. And that's the problem. I strongly believe that if the SJW community actively cultivated the culture it received, it would be much more successful, if people talked and shared about the characters and the stories and not just the politics, it would have worked a hell of a lot better. But they never do that. BUT. It's not like non-SJW's do that about comics either.

[Shatterface]

Also, it's not just that Marvel replaced their key characters with others from another demographic that upsets people. It's not that Iron Man is a black girl, it's that she's not Tony Stark. You'd have tthe same problem if they replaced Stark with another rich white dude: he's not Tony Stark. He's not the character you have grown attached to.

Years ago 2000ad replaced Judge Dredd with a younger clone and the original Dredd did the Long Walk. Now that replacement was genetically identical to Dredd - just younger - but he wasn't Dredd. He wasn't the guy who rebelled against Judge Cal or ran the Cursed Earth to Mega City Two or went searching for the Judge Child.

He was the same demographic - age apart - but he wasn't Judge Dredd.

[MarcusAu]

The movies follow the original characters: Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, etc. They're the characters the general public and the fanboys want to see. An SJW will buy the first edition of a reboot starring a Chinese lesbian with Down's syndrome as the Hulk and pat themselves on the back for diversity but they won't come back for issue 2.

And yet with DC there are plenty of fans that are more familiar with (and like), John Stewart (the black 'Green Lantern') or Ryan Choi (the asian 'Atom'), rather than the white originators of those roles. This is mainly from the cartoons (eg Justice League) which have a much greater fanbase than the comics.

And for Marvel - plenty of of people like the black Nick Fury (who they know from the movies) - so much so that he has been back-fitted (in a round-about way) into the main Marvel comics line. With Tony Stark - I don't think the wider public even knew who the character was before the first movie, and if Robert Downey Jr chooses to retire from the role - they will sort out a replacement (diverse or otherwise) soon enough.

nb the current version of the 'Hulk' is a Korean-American - not sure if he identifies as lesbian or a downs-syndome individual though.

[Shatterface]

I admit my social circle isn't typical: we are mainly comic readers and we know the characters intimately. I'm more British comics like 2000ad with a heavy dose of Marvel. The only DC character I follow with any depth is Batman. I have mates who are obsessed with Wonder Woman and I know little of the character except where she crosses over with Batman. But I'd say Spider-Man, Superman and Batman are instantly recognisable to people who know nothing of comics. I don't know enough about Japanese comics to compare their cultural impact. My knowledge of Japanese culture comes largely from their live action cinema.

[Shatterface]

I'm a bit vague in Black Nick Fury's backstory. Is he the same character but Black? I mean, if somebody decided that Tony Stark is Hispanic and had always been Hispanic I wouldn't care. He'd still be the alcoholic playboy I have been following for years. It's the replacement of a character with someone entirely different I care about.

[MarcusAu]

Also, it's not just that Marvel replaced their key characters with others from another demographic that upsets people. It's not that Iron Man is a black girl, it's that she's not Tony Stark. You'd have tthe same problem if they replaced Stark with another rich white dude: he's not Tony Stark. He's not the character you have grown attached to.

Years ago 2000ad replaced Judge Dredd with a younger clone and the original Dredd did the Long Walk. Now that replacement was genetically identical to Dredd - just younger - but he wasn't Dredd. He wasn't the guy who rebelled against Judge Cal or ran the Cursed Earth to Mega City Two or went searching for the Judge Child.

He was the same demographic - age apart - but he wasn't Judge Dredd.

The character of War Machine (aka James Rhodes) - was created as a replacement for Tony Stark back in the 80s. Originally he was fulfilling the Iron Man role.

As to releasing the Kraken...Dredd's replacement was pretty much confined to one story-line 'Necropolis' - with a beginning, middle and a (dead) end for him (though not Dredd).

Both story-lines are covered by the standard soap-opera tropes in which situations tend to be reset back to the original - as that is what people are more comfortable with.

[Stankeye]

Best chat up line evah! :D

Now we know why Carrier has such great teeth even though he can't afford dental insurance.

He does have one of the nicest smiles I've ever come across.

Did you just admit to something? aka"That's the Joke"

[shoutinghorse]

No words. :|