There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

[SM1957]

I like the way that charts groups all black people outside the US of A as 'other'

[Shatterface]

The British summed up in one pic. 8-)

https://i.imgur.com/R4324Uf.png

Would be more British if there was a queue of customers.

[free thoughtpolice]

Fuck you Pukin. We Canadians have developed missile interceptors with warp drive powered by Idoubtitanium that can shoot down your crappy nuclear powered missiles. :P

[Old_ones]

Kirbmarc wrote:

I've read reports that Russian bots many times sought to seed dissent by supporting but the Trump crowd and the SocJus, in order to maximize chaos and stupidity. I have to say that both sides are doing a great job even without much prodding.

A typical PC commenter wrote:

Why exactly would we want to meet in the middle with conservative atheists when there are plenty of left-leaning atheists and theists to ally with? Centrism is a cancer, though admittedly a lesser one than conservatism.

The problem is that if you are left leaning but closer to the center than Karl Marx or Mao, in the eyes of the SJWs they hate you more than they hate the real conservatives. Most of the smear campaigns the SJW crowd goes on is against center leftists.
Similar to the way that most of the victims of jihadi islamists are moderate muslims.

It's even worse than that. You can be very much to the left, but not an identitarian, and the SocJus will still come after you. Remember how Bernie Sanders, who's far more of a leftist economically than Hillary Clinton, was attacked because his supporters were described as "BernieBros" since he was running against a Strong Female Role Model and they were criticizing her, or how a member of Clinton's campaign called him "sympathetic to white supremacy" for criticizing the idea that Democratic Party candidates should be chosen according to the social group they belong to rather than according to their ability.

The SocJus is actually not very interested in economic or political reforms. Many SocJus fans have a vaguely socialist inclination, but they don't care very much about fighting against corporate kickbacks, bailouts and crony capitalism, or against lobbies and think tanks, or about providing assistance to working-class communities when those working-class communities are made up of Evil White Cis Hetero Men.

There's nothing "far left" about siding with a multinational company like Google against James Damore, who's simply a guy with no power.

For the SocJus the most important things are identity and virtue-signalling. Everything else is subordinate to that. You can be a neo-conservative who's promoted wars under Bush, like Max Boot, and still get some "woke" credit by learning how to use the "right" language at the "right" time. You can sell weapons to Saudi Arabia to commit ethnic cleansing in Yemen, like Justin "Zoolander" Trudeau has done, and still be praised as a "woke bae" because you dress up like a Bollywood character or have perfected the art of weeping for the camera.

On the other hand you can have actually fought for civil rights for years, and support a social-democratic platform on healthcare, welfare, the separation and regulation of investment and commercial banking, like Sanders, and still get accused of being a shitlord because you said that maybe ethnic, gender and sexuality quotas for candidates aren't everything that should matter, or because you're an Evil Cis White Hetero Male running against a Strong Woman and your followers aren't worshiping the ground she walks on.

The online mobs know no nuance, no reason, they understand no information, and aren't interested in practical policies. They only want to get outraged at someone being a bigot, and they define anyone who's not on their side as a bigot.

This is the thing that worries me most about social justice politics. It's exploitable in the same way that evangelical christianity has been exploited by republicans. Any politician can make a big show of being pious (or in the case of SocJus they can have the right set of identity markers and pay lip service to the dogma) and they can be used to screw the country and the people that voted them in. SJWs aren't interested in solving problems, they only care about having a person from the right group in the role of the problem solver. If you dare to ask whether that person can actually solve problems or will represent your interests then you are a nazi. SJWs think a person's character and belief structure are a function of their skin color, genitalia, and "gender identity" (whatever the fuck that is) so of course Hillary Clinton was going to be a progressive hero (never mind her actual track record). If we could only get a disabled black lesbian in a wheel chair we could really get this country on track.

Corporate entities and the hyper wealthy have absolutely nothing to fear from this ideology and everything to gain by embracing it. If they can just promote the right stooges and stay on the woke side in their press releases they will not be asked to make any real sacrifices or share any power. They can promote corrupt minority candidates who will nakedly serve their interests, and the blue haired twitter morons will cheer about the diversity of the senate.

The bright side is that I don't see social justice developing the level of popularity or power that evangelical christianity has in the US. And evangelical chirstianity lost a lot of political power thanks to Bush 2 overusing it and simultaneously making a mess of Washington. Hopefully that can happen to SocJus without electing an idiot president first.

[Kirbmarc]

Hopefully that can happen to SocJus without electing an idiot president first.

I fear that the next US president is going to be very SocJus friendly. Trump has fucked up the GOP, but the spiral of extremism has also screwed the sane Democrats.

[Guest_6b58cf84]

It's his remarks about doing a Xi, changing the rules and making himself pres for life that has me concerned.

CaughtUpLockedOut

[shoutinghorse]

I'll admit to knowing little about Corbyn, but I have to think many European "socialists" are looking at their social democratic neighbors, AKA capitalist states with robust social safety nets and maybe a nationalized railway or health service, not at failing states across the globe.

Except he wasn't.

[Lsuoma]

Can anyone recommend a good book on the implosion of Yugoslavia?

[Kirbmarc]

It's his remarks about doing a Xi, changing the rules and making himself pres for life that has me concerned.

CaughtUpLockedOut

It is concerning, but in order to do that he'd have to change the US constitution. That's unlikely to happen.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

The British summed up in one pic. 8-)

https://i.imgur.com/R4324Uf.png

Would be more British if there was a queue of customers.

In miniskirts/jeans and tee-shirts, with a pie already in the other hand.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I'll admit to knowing little about Corbyn, but I have to think many European "socialists" are looking at their social democratic neighbors, AKA capitalist states with robust social safety nets and maybe a nationalized railway or health service, not at failing states across the globe.

I would've known zilch about Corbyn were it not for what The Pit posts about him. But I mentioned his name recently to my very liberal mom and she said, "There's something wrong with that man."

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Can anyone recommend a good book on the implosion of Yugoslavia?

No, but I can recommend not drinking too much red wine at a cocktail party, then trying to have a reasonable conversation about Yugoslavia with an even drunker Serb.

[free thoughtpolice]

Can anyone recommend a good book on the implosion of Yugoslavia?

No, but I can recommend not drinking too much red wine at a cocktail party, then trying to have a reasonable conversation about Yugoslavia with an even drunker Serb.

Best to get drunk on this stuff. So good they named a muslim murdering cutthroat militia after it. :obscene-drinkingchug:
http://www.flores.rs/en/the-yellow-wasp.html

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Can anyone recommend a good book on the implosion of Yugoslavia?

This one is okay, almost a personal observation. Not a precisely a historical analysis.

[Sulman]

Can anyone recommend a good book on the implosion of Yugoslavia?

Not a book, but this is a good watch if you break it up.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

http://www.flores.rs/en/the-yellow-wasp.html

That stuff looks dangerous -- the neutron bomb of Slivowitz.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Actually, I can expand my recommendation to: never have a conversation with a Serb.

[Barbie's Boyfriend]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPsIbyp2xKE&t=21s

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Actually, I can expand my recommendation to: never have a conversation with a Serb.

One of my good friends is a Croatian, and he agrees. His opinion of Muslims in the former Yugoslavia is very Steersman. Yugoslavia is a potent lesson in the dangers of tribalism.

[free thoughtpolice]

I knew a Serb and a Croat that were really good friends (wherein I actually tasted the sting of the Yellow Wasp). They both moved away before the war so I don't know how their friendship would have fared. I like to think and think they wouldn't have been murdering each other's family members like back home. Both of them grew up in Yugoslavia. Good guys.
Also during the time before the breakup of Yugoslavia I met a Canadian born of Serb parents that had an unbelievably virulent hatred of non-Serb Balkan types. I don't think I ever met anyone else that hated another out group as this guy, and he had never even been to the area and as the Balkan community was never large in this area I doubt that he had met more than a handful of "the others" as he called them.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

For anyone interested in the 'intellectual artillery duel' on whether trans have PDs cuz society is mean, or trans are trans because they have PDs:

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/frie ... 3787464573

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Also during the time before the breakup of Yugoslavia I met a Canadian born of Serb parents that had an unbelievably virulent hatred of non-Serb Balkan types. I don't think I ever met anyone else that hated another out group as this guy, and he had never even been to the area and as the Balkan community was never large in this area I doubt that he had met more than a handful of "the others" as he called them.

That's the guy!

[free thoughtpolice]

You met Danny?

[Really?]

For anyone interested in the 'intellectual artillery duel' on whether trans have PDs cuz society is mean, or trans are trans because they have PDs:

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/frie ... 3787464573

If you can take any consolation, it is that transracialism is now kosher. We mocked those people two years ago. Now they are as protected as Mike Tyson wanting to box women.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

If you can take any consolation, it is that transracialism is now kosher. We mocked those people two years ago. Now they are as protected as Mike Tyson wanting to box women.

I find that women like to have their ears nibbled. Probably not the way Mike would go about it, though.

[Kirbmarc]

I knew a Serb and a Croat that were really good friends (wherein I actually tasted the sting of the Yellow Wasp). They both moved away before the war so I don't know how their friendship would have fared. I like to think and think they wouldn't have been murdering each other's family members like back home. Both of them grew up in Yugoslavia. Good guys.
Also during the time before the breakup of Yugoslavia I met a Canadian born of Serb parents that had an unbelievably virulent hatred of non-Serb Balkan types. I don't think I ever met anyone else that hated another out group as this guy, and he had never even been to the area and as the Balkan community was never large in this area I doubt that he had met more than a handful of "the others" as he called them.

This matches my experience with some members of the Palestinian diaspora who have never been to Palestine, never met an Israeli, but are incredibly virulent about hating "Ze Jewz". I'm not a big Israel fan like some people in here, and I think that Israel is contributing a lot to the hot mess of the Middle East, and refusing to acknowledge its role in an international setting to boot, but the amount of conspiracy theories and hatred for "Ze Jewz" among muslims and arabs in general is higher than those of the alt-right on the same subject.

Most people, sadly, seem unable to separate criticism of acts and/or theories and ideas that support and encourage those acts from personal hatred and beliefs in a cabal of nefarious people which includes everyone who belongs to a large social group.

So on one side you get the Steer Men who deliberately confuse criticism of islam with their own preferred version of Qu'ran piss tests and "population transfers", or the Spencer fans and other "alt-righters" who think that since people in poverty who belong to minorities tend to have higher rates of commission of crimes then it's time for an "ethnostate", and on the other side you get those who believe that all cis hetero white people are Evil because of the GOP and its idiotic theocratic or corporative-friendly ideas, or because of Donald Trump and his nativist sympathies, or that the Jews control the world and are plotting to kill or enslave all Arabs because of Netanyahu's policies and of the American whitewashing of Israeli shenanigans.

[Easy J]

If you can take any consolation, it is that transracialism is now kosher. We mocked those people two years ago. Now they are as protected as Mike Tyson wanting to box women.

I find that women like to have their ears nibbled. Probably not the way Mike would go about it, though.

Tyson seems partial to male ears & tends to chomp rather than nibble. I'm less sure of his ways with the ladies but I don't think the court record is sealed if anyone is interested.

[Bhurzum]

The British summed up in one pic. 8-)

https://i.imgur.com/R4324Uf.png

Would be more British if there was a queue of customers.

In miniskirts/jeans and tee-shirts, with a pie already in the other hand.

[feathers]

Can anyone recommend a good book on the implosion of Yugoslavia?

No, but I can recommend not drinking too much red wine at a cocktail party, then trying to have a reasonable conversation about Yugoslavia with an even drunker just about any Serb.

Fixed.

[katamari Damassi]

I didn't get the see the Gay Superbowl this year, but I'm pleased with the winners. The fantastic Blade Runner 2049 took home effects and cinematography, and for the first time a science fiction movie-The Shape of Water-won Best Picture.
I was afraid that in the current PC climate that the midling horror movie and extended "white people be like..." riff Get Out would win.

[katamari Damassi]

RIP Cynthia Heimel
She was a humor columnist for Playboy and a pleasure to read. A friend lent me her book Sex Tips For Girls back when I was in college and I've been a fan ever since.
https://www.salon.com/2018/02

[DrokkIt]

I've been watching Crowder's change my mind videos recently.

The main thing that strikes me is how meagre the standard of argumentation is at the universities. A lot of Crowder's arguments border on sophistic, but none of these clowns seem able to hold him to his own standards regarding a position be consistent. He pretty much just pushes them around or pushes their buttons.

Shit needs sorting out.

[katamari Damassi]

I've been watching Crowder's change my mind videos recently.

The main thing that strikes me is how meagre the standard of argumentation is at the universities. A lot of Crowder's arguments border on sophistic, but none of these clowns seem able to hold him to his own standards regarding a position be consistent. He pretty much just pushes them around or pushes their buttons.

Shit needs sorting out.

The only thing I'm interested in seeing Crowder do is get drilled on Pornhub Gay.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I've been watching Crowder's change my mind videos recently.

The main thing that strikes me is how meagre the standard of argumentation is at the universities. A lot of Crowder's arguments border on sophistic, but none of these clowns seem able to hold him to his own standards regarding a position be consistent. He pretty much just pushes them around or pushes their buttons.

Shit needs sorting out.

The only thing I'm interested in seeing Crowder do is get drilled on Pornhub Gay.

Crowder likely shares your sentiment.

[DrokkIt]

I've been watching Crowder's change my mind videos recently.

The main thing that strikes me is how meagre the standard of argumentation is at the universities. A lot of Crowder's arguments border on sophistic, but none of these clowns seem able to hold him to his own standards regarding a position be consistent. He pretty much just pushes them around or pushes their buttons.

Shit needs sorting out.

The only thing I'm interested in seeing Crowder do is get drilled on Pornhub Gay.

TBH that would be more interested that 40 mins of him smugly stating that life beings at conception, with nobody asking him if he thinks no life ought to ever be taken.

[John D]

Owen Benjamin is funny sometimes...

[Kirbmarc]

I've been watching Crowder's change my mind videos recently.

The main thing that strikes me is how meagre the standard of argumentation is at the universities. A lot of Crowder's arguments border on sophistic, but none of these clowns seem able to hold him to his own standards regarding a position be consistent. He pretty much just pushes them around or pushes their buttons.

Shit needs sorting out.

The SocJus is killing debate skills and standards. You can't teach people how to evaluate the logical fallacies of others when your Critical Race Theory-based assumptions are all about using all kinds of logical fallacies, conspiracy theories and word tricks to foster your ideas.

[DrokkIt]

I've been watching Crowder's change my mind videos recently.

The main thing that strikes me is how meagre the standard of argumentation is at the universities. A lot of Crowder's arguments border on sophistic, but none of these clowns seem able to hold him to his own standards regarding a position be consistent. He pretty much just pushes them around or pushes their buttons.

Shit needs sorting out.

The SocJus is killing debate skills and standards. You can't teach people how to evaluate the logical fallacies of others when your Critical Race Theory-based assumptions are all about using all kinds of logical fallacies, conspiracy theories and word tricks to foster your ideas.

Yeah I think you are right.

I accept Crowder's position that life beings with conception- a zygote is most demonstrably alive- however the horns of the dilemma here is not really about what is alive, but which has the right over the body of another.

Were I to surgically attach a dying man to Crowder in order to keep him alive, I'm 100% sure Crowder would assert his bodily autonomy over the dying man and say he has a right to detach him even though it will kill a sentient human.

So I think his position, in truth, breaks into a stance on responsibility. The video didn't really get into any of this though, just showed pillocks arguing that abortion up to 9 months is fine - I recognise it may have been edited.

[katamari Damassi]

I've been watching Crowder's change my mind videos recently.

The main thing that strikes me is how meagre the standard of argumentation is at the universities. A lot of Crowder's arguments border on sophistic, but none of these clowns seem able to hold him to his own standards regarding a position be consistent. He pretty much just pushes them around or pushes their buttons.

Shit needs sorting out.

The SocJus is killing debate skills and standards. You can't teach people how to evaluate the logical fallacies of others when your Critical Race Theory-based assumptions are all about using all kinds of logical fallacies, conspiracy theories and word tricks to foster your ideas.

Yeah I think you are right.

I accept Crowder's position that life beings with conception- a zygote is most demonstrably alive- however the horns of the dilemma here is not really about what is alive, but which has the right over the body of another.

Were I to surgically attach a dying man to Crowder in order to keep him alive, I'm 100% sure Crowder would assert his bodily autonomy over the dying man and say he has a right to detach him even though it will kill a sentient human.

So I think his position, in truth, breaks into a stance on responsibility. The video didn't really get into any of this though, just showed pillocks arguing that abortion up to 9 months is fine - I recognise it may have been edited.

Abortion must be intersectional. You have the right to abort white males, but not minorities or the handicapped.

[DrokkIt]

I've been watching Crowder's change my mind videos recently.

The main thing that strikes me is how meagre the standard of argumentation is at the universities. A lot of Crowder's arguments border on sophistic, but none of these clowns seem able to hold him to his own standards regarding a position be consistent. He pretty much just pushes them around or pushes their buttons.

Shit needs sorting out.

The SocJus is killing debate skills and standards. You can't teach people how to evaluate the logical fallacies of others when your Critical Race Theory-based assumptions are all about using all kinds of logical fallacies, conspiracy theories and word tricks to foster your ideas.

Yeah I think you are right.

I accept Crowder's position that life beings with conception- a zygote is most demonstrably alive- however the horns of the dilemma here is not really about what is alive, but which has the right over the body of another.

Were I to surgically attach a dying man to Crowder in order to keep him alive, I'm 100% sure Crowder would assert his bodily autonomy over the dying man and say he has a right to detach him even though it will kill a sentient human.

So I think his position, in truth, breaks into a stance on responsibility. The video didn't really get into any of this though, just showed pillocks arguing that abortion up to 9 months is fine - I recognise it may have been edited.

Abortion must be intersectional. You have the right to abort white males, but not minorities or the handicapped.

There you go assuming racial and gender identities. Scum.

[Kirbmarc]

I accept Crowder's position that life beings with conception- a zygote is most demonstrably alive- however the horns of the dilemma here is not really about what is alive, but which has the right over the body of another.

Were I to surgically attach a dying man to Crowder in order to keep him alive, I'm 100% sure Crowder would assert his bodily autonomy over the dying man and say he has a right to detach him even though it will kill a sentient human.

Yes, ultimately abortion is about individual rights to self-ownership, and a self-professed libertarian like Crowder should be in favor of it.

Although I'm not sure that the legal definition of life and the biological definition of life are one and the same, either. We call people whose heart is still beating "legally dead" because their brain isn't functioning anymore. A zygote doesn't even have a brain, so it might be biologically alive, but is it legally alive?

[DrokkIt]

I accept Crowder's position that life beings with conception- a zygote is most demonstrably alive- however the horns of the dilemma here is not really about what is alive, but which has the right over the body of another.

Were I to surgically attach a dying man to Crowder in order to keep him alive, I'm 100% sure Crowder would assert his bodily autonomy over the dying man and say he has a right to detach him even though it will kill a sentient human.

Yes, ultimately abortion is about individual rights to self-ownership, and a self-professed libertarian like Crowder should be in favor of it.

Although I'm not sure that the legal definition of life and the biological definition of life are one and the same, either. We call people whose heart is still beating "legally dead" because their brain isn't functioning anymore. A zygote doesn't even have a brain, so it might be biologically alive, but is it legally alive?

Good point, but he's almost exclusively coming from a moral position.

If your principle is that taking life = wrong then you ought to be a vegan.

If your principle is that taking *human* life = wrong then you need to demonstrate exactly what 'human life' is.

If your principle is that taking the life of a *person* = wrong then you need to demonstrate how a zygote is a person.

It's one thing to bluster about "change my mind" but it's entirely another to have an integrated, consistent position the moral and ethics or which are universal across all one's positions.

[shoutinghorse]

Hiel Hail the Count. :clap:

[Matt Cavanaugh]

My abortion will be intersectional, or I'll take the little bastard to term!

Wait, uhh, scratch that.

[Kirbmarc]

Good point, but he's almost exclusively coming from a moral position.

If your principle is that taking life = wrong then you ought to be a vegan.

If your principle is that taking *human* life = wrong then you need to demonstrate exactly what 'human life' is.

If your principle is that taking the life of a *person* = wrong then you need to demonstrate how a zygote is a person.

It's one thing to bluster about "change my mind" but it's entirely another to have an integrated, consistent position the moral and ethics or which are universal across all one's positions.

Technically speaking if your principle is taking life = wrong you'd need to only need fruits and/or parts of plants without killing them, since plants are alive, too.

[Sunder]

So I think his position, in truth, breaks into a stance on responsibility. The video didn't really get into any of this though, just showed pillocks arguing that abortion up to 9 months is fine - I recognise it may have been edited.

A miniature version of this discussion just popped up over at Jerry's.

Regressives are quite dumb to allow themselves to be baited into arguing for elective abortion in the third trimester, because it is absurdly, vanishingly rare. Third trimester abortions are almost unequivocally wanted pregnancies that just aren't viable or have unacceptable medical risks. Women who want elective abortions want them as soon as possible because pregnancy sucks if you're not gonna get anything out of it. And women who went into a pregnancy wanting a baby and whose hearts are broken by the news that the fetus is malformed and won't survive and thus their best course of action is to abort and try again do not deserve to be conflated with the former group either by jackass conservatives or idiotic regressives.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

So I think his position, in truth, breaks into a stance on responsibility. The video didn't really get into any of this though, just showed pillocks arguing that abortion up to 9 months is fine - I recognise it may have been edited.

A miniature version of this discussion just popped up over at Jerry's.

Regressives are quite dumb to allow themselves to be baited into arguing for elective abortion in the third trimester, because it is absurdly, vanishingly rare. Third trimester abortions are almost unequivocally wanted pregnancies that just aren't viable or have unacceptable medical risks. Women who want elective abortions want them as soon as possible because pregnancy sucks if you're not gonna get anything out of it. And women who went into a pregnancy wanting a baby and whose hearts are broken by the news that the fetus is malformed and won't survive and thus their best course of action is to abort and try again do not deserve to be conflated with the former group either by jackass conservatives or idiotic regressives.

Exactly. The radfems and SJWs snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Roe covered everything that was needed. But these fucktards had to make it about 'bodily autonomy', and the fetus having no right to your nutrients any more than a stranger has a right to your kidney, and how the fetus is no different than a tumor or a turd (h/t Peez), and a woman assumes no responsibility for any consequences if she has sex, and other shit that really doesn't have much to do with the realities of abortion, but probably a hell of a lot to do with their own fucked up psyches.

And this has contributed in no small measure to the Dems getting hammered at the polls, and why, for the first time in four decades, Roe actually is threatened.

[shoutinghorse]

Good point, but he's almost exclusively coming from a moral position.

If your principle is that taking life = wrong then you ought to be a vegan.

If your principle is that taking *human* life = wrong then you need to demonstrate exactly what 'human life' is.

If your principle is that taking the life of a *person* = wrong then you need to demonstrate how a zygote is a person.

It's one thing to bluster about "change my mind" but it's entirely another to have an integrated, consistent position the moral and ethics or which are universal across all one's positions.

Technically speaking if your principle is taking life = wrong you'd need to only need fruits and/or parts of plants without killing them, since plants are alive, too.

Plant Lives Matter.

https://i.imgur.com/YMHo58u.jpg

[Sunder]

In the case of failing to properly defend Roe, I wonder if there's a type of argument similar to Motte and Bailey except the peasants are out getting slaughtered in the bailey because they're too stupid to take refuge in the motte.

[DrokkIt]

So I think his position, in truth, breaks into a stance on responsibility. The video didn't really get into any of this though, just showed pillocks arguing that abortion up to 9 months is fine - I recognise it may have been edited.

A miniature version of this discussion just popped up over at Jerry's.

Regressives are quite dumb to allow themselves to be baited into arguing for elective abortion in the third trimester, because it is absurdly, vanishingly rare. Third trimester abortions are almost unequivocally wanted pregnancies that just aren't viable or have unacceptable medical risks. Women who want elective abortions want them as soon as possible because pregnancy sucks if you're not gonna get anything out of it. And women who went into a pregnancy wanting a baby and whose hearts are broken by the news that the fetus is malformed and won't survive and thus their best course of action is to abort and try again do not deserve to be conflated with the former group either by jackass conservatives or idiotic regressives.

Exactly. The radfems and SJWs snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Roe covered everything that was needed. But these fucktards had to make it about 'bodily autonomy', and the fetus having no right to your nutrients any more than a stranger has a right to your kidney, and how the fetus is no different than a tumor or a turd (h/t Peez), and a woman assumes no responsibility for any consequences if she has sex, and other shit that really doesn't have much to do with the realities of abortion, but probably a hell of a lot to do with their own fucked up psyches.

And this has contributed in no small measure to the Dems getting hammered at the polls, and why, for the first time in four decades, Roe actually is threatened.

Yep. In the vid some fat idiot described a foetus as a parasite and defended that description. It's like they think being pregnant is oppression by foetus or something.

[katamari Damassi]

Yep. In the vid some fat idiot described a foetus as a parasite and defended that description. It's like they think being pregnant is oppression by foetus or something.

If she thinks the fetus is parasite, just wait until her kid goes to college.

[Shatterface]

Fetuses are parasites until you find out you can't get pregnant, or you might miscarry, then society owes you a kid.

[Sunder]

Jerry puts a post up about a man who is sad that his "cheese sandwich" he bought was just bread and a single thin slice of cheese, which is perhaps justifiable.

He then posts a bunch of pictures of other sandwiches which all appear fine (I mean, for a pre-packaged sandwich kept in a fridge), complaining they're not as good as what you'd get at a deli (wow, what insight), which he illustrates with a horrifying image of a ten inch high mountain of pastrami that looks like it could cause gout merely by viewing it for too long.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I had a client who was a NICU nurse and called the preemies "fetuses". I trained her foal and she called him a fetus too.

[Tigzy]

Jerry puts a post up about a man who is sad that his "cheese sandwich" he bought was just bread and a single thin slice of cheese, which is perhaps justifiable.

He then posts a bunch of pictures of other sandwiches which all appear fine (I mean, for a pre-packaged sandwich kept in a fridge), complaining they're not as good as what you'd get at a deli (wow, what insight), which he illustrates with a horrifying image of a ten inch high mountain of pastrami that looks like it could cause gout merely by viewing it for too long.

All sorts of controversies have been covered by WEIT, and at no time have I been moved to comment. But dissing the British sandwich? No. That shit will not stand.

Jerry's perplexity at the idea of the bacon & HP sandwich and the chip butty is enjoyable to behold.

[Tigzy]

Antifa tries to shut down Sargon's speaking gig. It does not go well for antifa.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

So I think his position, in truth, breaks into a stance on responsibility. The video didn't really get into any of this though, just showed pillocks arguing that abortion up to 9 months is fine - I recognise it may have been edited.

A miniature version of this discussion just popped up over at Jerry's.

Regressives are quite dumb to allow themselves to be baited into arguing for elective abortion in the third trimester, because it is absurdly, vanishingly rare. Third trimester abortions are almost unequivocally wanted pregnancies that just aren't viable or have unacceptable medical risks. Women who want elective abortions want them as soon as possible because pregnancy sucks if you're not gonna get anything out of it. And women who went into a pregnancy wanting a baby and whose hearts are broken by the news that the fetus is malformed and won't survive and thus their best course of action is to abort and try again do not deserve to be conflated with the former group either by jackass conservatives or idiotic regressives.

Exactly. The radfems and SJWs snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Roe covered everything that was needed. But these fucktards had to make it about 'bodily autonomy', and the fetus having no right to your nutrients any more than a stranger has a right to your kidney, and how the fetus is no different than a tumor or a turd (h/t Peez), and a woman assumes no responsibility for any consequences if she has sex, and other shit that really doesn't have much to do with the realities of abortion, but probably a hell of a lot to do with their own fucked up psyches.

And this has contributed in no small measure to the Dems getting hammered at the polls, and why, for the first time in four decades, Roe actually is threatened.

Yep. In the vid some fat idiot described a foetus as a parasite and defended that description. It's like they think being pregnant is oppression by foetus or something.

Well a foetus is technically a parasite, but if you see it as nothing more than that and don't pause at all to consider that there may be consequences to writing of the potential of human life as nothing then you are broken in some respect AFAIAC. Perhaps there is some value to "irrational" taboos.

[Brive1987]

CFI have cut Krauss. PZ is genuinely surprised

HJ wants more blood.

They’ve claimed that since 2007. Past history makes me skeptical of their commitment. By this point, “the right thing” should include resignations and a serious commitment to self-education via outside consultants.

[shoutinghorse]

Sargon has come under attack.



To the Victor the spoils.

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[Shatterface]

A parasite ensures the survival of its own species at the cost of another. It has to belong to a different species.