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Still being
temporarily housed. The way Goldy makes it out to be is that they will be permanently resettled. Although she doesn't say permanently when she makes an issue of moving them to Ontario implies that it woud be permanent. If not what is the point of mentioning it. She is not telling the whole story and it leaves the wrong impression.
You also have shot yourself in the foot for trying to apologize for her using the term genocide.
Ah. So you silently accept you were wrong. These are not legal migrants. Good to hear.
But now you take umbrage at something she didn’t say eh? The point is that her neck of the woods are getting ethnically offset and there is no clear process or timeline around unwinding it. But there is a government tweeting out messages of support to the worlds dispossessed.
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Re Genocide
The best thing you can do now is take the Dunning-Kruger defence.
tl/dr
The case can be made that govt policy which has the intent of destroying the self awareness of a specific cultural group, even in part, constitutes genocide. Hello South Africa. Hello multi-culti which subverts western identity.
In more detail:
UN Definition
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention
There’s a long line of scholars waiting patiently for you to define what the following mean in an objective sense:
+ Intent
+ Destroy
+ In part
+ Mental harm
There are entire thesis written on each with no firm conclusions.
Then please define these social constructs to everybody’s satisfaction:
+ National group
+ Ethnic group
+ Racial group (oh ho ho ho)
+ Religious group (as opposed to sect)
Maybe ponder why “destroying in whole or part” a political group is not included ....
Lemkin was the originator of the term ”Genocide” and was fighting for this concept to become international law before WWII. His idea was to address state perpetrated actions inflicted on national or ethnic groups which formed an attack on their “essential foundations”. A key component was the destruction of a base identity and its replacement by the oppressor. Ie genocide described cultural colonialisation where mass killings were one (non essential) element. Lemkin went on to suggest two possible components: “barbarity” (violence) and “vandalism” (cultural attack).
The UN convention tried to combine elements of this with the immediate experience of the Holocaust and produced a mash that no-one can untangle. I have come across more than 40 serious efforts to redefine the term ....
Goldy’s pitch is that the govt multicultural program intends to ultimately de-westernise Canada and form the first “post national state”. Per their stated policy.
This will destroy in whole or part the essential foundations of English and French Canadian identity. Genocide is a process and stages can be seen in pulling down statues, reinterpreting history, creating cultural equivilancies, banning parochial cultural expression and ultimately demographic change.
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Suggested reading:
Akhavan, Payam, Reducing Genocide to Law. Definition, Meaning and the Ultimate Crime,
Cambridge University Press, New York, 2012.
Alvarez, Alex, Governments, Citizens and Genocide, Indian University Press, 2001
Chalk, Frank and Jonassohn, Kurt, The History and Sociology of Genocide, Yale University
Press, 1990.
Charny, Israel, ‘Toward a Generic Definition of Genocide’, in Andreopoulos, Genocide:
Conceptual and Historical Dimensions, University of Pennsylvania Press, Philadelphia,
1997.
Fein, Helen, ‘Defining Genocide as a Sociological Concept’, in Samuel Totten and Paul R.
Barton (eds.), The Genocide Studies Reader, Routledge, New York, 2009.
Horowitz, Irving, ‘Genocide and the reconstruction of social theory: Observations on the
exclusivity of collective death’; Armenian Review, 37, 1984.
Lemkin, Raphael, 'Acts Constituting a General (Transnational) Danger Considered as
Offences Against the Law of Nations',
http://www.preventgenocide.org/lemkin/m ... nglish.htm.
McDonnell, Michael A. & Moses, A. Dirk, ‘Raphael Lemkin as historian of genocide in the
Americas’, Journal of Genocide Research, 7:4, 2005.
Schabas, William, Genocide in International Law: The Crimes of Crimes, Cambridge
University Press, Cambridge U.K., 2000, eBook Collection (EBSCOhost)
Totten, Samuel (ed.), Teaching about Genocide, Greenwich Con., 2004, Chapter 4,
‘Wrestling with the Definition of Genocide: A Critical Task’.
