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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:45 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
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You know, the protestations that the accusations against Kavanuagh were completely unfair might have held more water if the FBI investigation hadn't been hobbled. Just sayin.' I went from being convinced it was all political to being pretty sure ol' Brett has some skeletons rattling around his closet. Still dislike the tactics, but that's where we're at now. Republicans will be just as quick to do anything for their side, you can bet your ass. They've done it before, and no sign of slowing. And I don't recall any Kavanugh "The litmus should be if he's qualified" saying anything when they punted Garland. Pretending to be outraged now is more than a little hypocritical.
How was the FBI investigation hobbled? The Blasey investigation could have been conducted a long time ago when she first approached the Democrats. They sat on the case and their pet lawyers did not pass on the multiple offers of private hearings to Blasey because they wanted to publicly smear Kavanaugh and pushed her into a public hearing. Blasey's allegations were missing major elements which would have made verification easier, which is very suspicious, and contained a number of untruths and inconsistincies. None of the people who were supposedly present at the rape party can verify anything and we must believe that her friend didn't notice that she had disappeared from a small group of people. There's evidence from yearbooks and contemporaries that indicates that Blasey and her peers were not the kind of people to be victimised in silence and too many people who vouch for Kavanaugh, including ex girlfriends. Blasey is also an anti-Trumper working at Feminist SJW Central University in Palo Alto. The case is so shakey that publicising it adds up to a deliberate smear campaign. I think we know by now that if you oppose the left you will be accused of sexual assault or racism as a matter of routine. It is the Democrats who want the results of the FBI investigation kept private. A matter of accuse in public but keep the investigation which fails to substantiate private.

Kavanaugh has an unfortunate facial twitch which his attackers have used to try to portray him as being overly angry. He did get angry at one stage, but who wouldn't after being accused of being a gang rapist who is going to destroy America? From what I've seen of him, he was very even tempered given the obtuseness of some of his inquisitors, if sometimes a little exasperated. He has endured a concerted attempt to assassinate his character BAMN. I don't fault the Republicans for having decided that enough is enough because it had become clear that the Democrats could not have been satisfied however long the charade went on. And talking of hypocrisy, the very people moralising about Kavanaugh were complicit in silencing the far more credible accusers of their man Bill, a man pretty much known to be a sexual predator and a man who made liars of his party.

I'm aware of past Republican behaviour, Jerome Corsi and his Swift Boat BS for example, but what the Democrats are doing right now is to a whole new level and absolutely disgusts me. It has the potential to produce virtual anarchy.

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:47 pm

MarcusAu wrote: I can't recall if the 'Russian Feminist Pours Bleach on Men to Fight Manspreading' story was mentioned here or not.

In any case, I'm now seeing reports that it is 'fake news'...perhaps even 'very, fake news'.

https://euvsdisinfo.eu/viral-manspreadi ... ropaganda/
You need to go to the experts. It appears to be a mattress girl type stunt, the P-bones also inspect a video of the lass where she publicly raises her skirt to protest (for?) up-skirting laws.

“Do you want to know more?”


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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:51 pm

Brive1987 wrote: “Do you want to know more?”
Considering the source, I probably won't take a gander.

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:52 pm

Driftless wrote:
SM1957 wrote: GCSE textbook pulled from schools because facts are racist.

And you can't expect black people to be good parents in 2018.They try to be good fathers, but the slave trade makes it so hard for them.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-45784222
The article says 21% of black families are single-parent, 16% of all families of all races.

The book says Caribbean fathers are "largely absent". That seems to be an overstatement to me, unless the 21% stat is wrong. I would take largely absent to mean a majority of black families are single female parent.
That was a single source, a charity. Most sources seem to put the number considerably higher.
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Post by screwtape » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 pm

MarcusAu wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
piginthecity wrote: I'm enjoying the (west) Aussie series 'Mystery Road' on BBC. One good thing about the 'female representation' fad is the MILFs in uniform!
It's been done...

I've not seen Barbara Castle, but I did visit Battle Abbie this past weekend.
In the days before needle biopsies, a suspicious mammogram meant you signed your consent and woke up with a BandAid or something larger depending on what the frozen section had said. When Barbara Castle came to the Cruciform building on Gower Street, she had recently upset NHS docs as minister of health. She awoke to the less than gentle "You've had your tit off, dear" from an anaesthetist who went on to become Dean. Happy days.

And Diana Dors was a Swindon girl, though more from the Penhill end rather than Sargon's Toothill side.

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:23 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:17 am
You know, the protestations that the accusations against Kavanuagh were completely unfair might have held more water if the FBI investigation hadn't been hobbled. Just sayin.' I went from being convinced it was all political to being pretty sure ol' Brett has some skeletons rattling around his closet. Still dislike the tactics, but that's where we're at now. Republicans will be just as quick to do anything for their side, you can bet your ass. They've done it before, and no sign of slowing. And I don't recall any Kavanugh "The litmus should be if he's qualified" saying anything when they punted Garland. Pretending to be outraged now is more than a little hypocritical.
How was the FBI investigation hobbled? The Blasey investigation could have been conducted a long time ago when she first approached the Democrats. They sat on the case and their pet lawyers did not pass on the multiple offers of private hearings to Blasey because they wanted to publicly smear Kavanaugh and pushed her into a public hearing. Blasey's allegations were missing major elements which would have made verification easier, which is very suspicious, and contained a number of untruths and inconsistincies. None of the people who were supposedly present at the rape party can verify anything and we must believe that her friend didn't notice that she had disappeared from a small group of people. There's evidence from yearbooks and contemporaries that indicates that Blasey and her peers were not the kind of people to be victimised in silence and too many people who vouch for Kavanaugh, including ex girlfriends. Blasey is also an anti-Trumper working at Feminist SJW Central University in Palo Alto. The case is so shakey that publicising it adds up to a deliberate smear campaign. I think we know by now that if you oppose the left you will be accused of sexual assault or racism as a matter of routine. It is the Democrats who want the results of the FBI investigation kept private. A matter of accuse in public but keep the investigation which fails to substantiate private.

Kavanaugh has an unfortunate facial twitch which his attackers have used to try to portray him as being overly angry. He did get angry at one stage, but who wouldn't after being accused of being a gang rapist who is going to destroy America? From what I've seen of him, he was very even tempered given the obtuseness of some of his inquisitors, if sometimes a little exasperated. He has endured a concerted attempt to assassinate his character BAMN. I don't fault the Republicans for having decided that enough is enough because it had become clear that the Democrats could not have been satisfied however long the charade went on. And talking of hypocrisy, the very people moralising about Kavanaugh were complicit in silencing the far more credible accusers of their man Bill, a man pretty much known to be a sexual predator and a man who made liars of his party.

I'm aware of past Republican behaviour, Jerome Corsi and his Swift Boat BS for example, but what the Democrats are doing right now is to a whole new level and absolutely disgusts me. It has the potential to produce virtual anarchy.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... CQ&ampcf=1

https://amp.indystar.com/story/1559722002

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/572236/

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:27 pm

And I'm done dealing with crocodile tears from Kavanaugh supporters. You seem to only notice when the "smear campaign" is done against your side, but when Bill Clinton is called a rapist, not a peep. If you really think that this is a one-sided war with the Republicans as innocent victims, then you are laughably gullible.

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Post by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:33 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Kavanaugh has an unfortunate facial twitch which his attackers have used to try to portray him as being overly angry.
New one on me, where's this come from?

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Post by KiwiInOz » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:44 pm

comhcinc wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:22 pm
Carny isn't an insult. It's a description. Carny can be good people.
Jordan Peterson is a carny, whereas I am more of an omni.

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Post by Kirbmarc » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:53 pm

comhcinc wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
comhcinc wrote: Sargon got his ass handed to him by Carrier. Maybe he should have asked all his buddies here for some advice. What's his post count now? Million, two million?
It seems you were never particularly impressed by him.

If I recall correctly you also didn't think much of him (or perhaps people in general) making money from Internet punditry. (Which is more common than ever these days).
Sargon just comes off as a big phony to me. That's why it annoyed me when he came here. He didn't just say "hey I want to grab some people and make a quick buck" he pretending he was going to hang around and maybe use this place as a resource (which an intelligent person would do).

Dude is pure carny.
After the podcast I worked a bit with Sargon behind the scenes, since he seemed genuinely interested in wanting to reform the left at that time: he was in contact with Kyle Kulinski and evento talked about trying to sway the Young Turks towards a more skeptic, evidence-based discourse which went beyond the "culture wars".

I gave him the benefit of the doubt and sent him some material on reactionary islam, which he used for a video. He seemed eager to learn at that time so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

In retrospect it was a waste of time. Aragon has drifted to the far right to play along with his increasingly far-right audience. The project to reform the left was tossed aside. He's not even mentioning Kulinski anymore. He went on to side with LePen, to join the UKIP, to be a self-absorbed prat who has no real plan except to trigger the libs.

He's a terrible debater because deep down he has no principles, no values, he goes with the flow of his audience, he panders to the crowd. He's not even genuinely far-right as much as he is interested in keeping his channel relevant, the far-right idiocy is only the kind of idiocy that a lot of his fans like.

I respect him even less than Southern or Goldy now. They're partisan hacks with horrible ideas, but at least they have ideas. Sargon is a Dave Rubin with a British accent, a camwhore for the identification crowd who plays the "moderate" when he's afraid of losing relevance among the galaxy of Right Wing Identitarian pundits.

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Post by free thoughtpolice » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:54 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Kavanaugh has an unfortunate facial twitch which his attackers have used to try to portray him as being overly angry.
New one on me, where's this come from?
Well it could be that tantrum he threw when he showed everyone that he was the non partisan even handed and even headed choice that would conform to the high standards required of a Supreme Court Justice.

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Post by Kirbmarc » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:59 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:24 am
I forgot Creativity73...But past that was there anyone who even joined in based off that now forgotten stream?
No. But it does mark one of the last times Brive and Kirb were on good terms, shortly before the fall of Australia.
The Ethno-State Big Rift actually happened much later. Until a few months ago Brive sensibly believed that Southern was a hack with terrible ideas. He seemed to support what he now derides as "civic nationalism".

The Defense of White Anglo Australia is a relatively recent development, which started after the Aussies got legal gay marriage.

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Post by AndrewV69 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:08 pm

MarcusAu wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:31 pm
I can't recall if the 'Russian Feminist Pours Bleach on Men to Fight Manspreading' story was mentioned here or not.

In any case, I'm now seeing reports that it is 'fake news'...perhaps even 'very, fake news'.

https://euvsdisinfo.eu/viral-manspreadi ... ropaganda/
I guess that is why no one punched her in the nose? Russian men have no problem beating women. It is known.

Here is proof. A documentary:

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Post by AndrewV69 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:10 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:04 pm
I heard him on the Spencer debate and thought he was a (relative) voice of reason. So I hunted him down and promptly had the same visual recoil you experienced.

But I listened to a few vids with the iPad cover closed on its flap - and managed to overcome my prejudice.
I am being harassed with a lived experience not my own. :o :o :o

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Post by free thoughtpolice » Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:55 pm

AndrewV69 wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:04 pm
I heard him on the Spencer debate and thought he was a (relative) voice of reason. So I hunted him down and promptly had the same visual recoil you experienced.

But I listened to a few vids with the iPad cover closed on its flap - and managed to overcome my prejudice.
I am being harassed with a lived experience not my own. :o :o :o
Whatever you do, don't start to imagine what he wears while he is making his ghost videos. Madness lies on that path! :shock:

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Post by Guest_7561401a » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:10 pm

Warm-up exercises for 2020?
Bill and Hillary Clinton are going on tour.
The Clintons announced on Monday that they would headline a series of live events together -- billed "An Evening with The Clintons" -- across the country in the final weeks of 2018 and into 2019.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/08/politics ... index.html

Third time's the charm?

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Post by Keating » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:18 pm

Kirbmarc wrote: After the podcast I worked a bit with Sargon behind the scenes, since he seemed genuinely interested in wanting to reform the left at that time: he was in contact with Kyle Kulinski and evento talked about trying to sway the Young Turks towards a more skeptic, evidence-based discourse which went beyond the "culture wars".

I gave him the benefit of the doubt and sent him some material on reactionary islam, which he used for a video. He seemed eager to learn at that time so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

In retrospect it was a waste of time. Aragon has drifted to the far right to play along with his increasingly far-right audience. The project to reform the left was tossed aside. He's not even mentioning Kulinski anymore. He went on to side with LePen, to join the UKIP, to be a self-absorbed prat who has no real plan except to trigger the libs.

He's a terrible debater because deep down he has no principles, no values, he goes with the flow of his audience, he panders to the crowd. He's not even genuinely far-right as much as he is interested in keeping his channel relevant, the far-right idiocy is only the kind of idiocy that a lot of his fans like.

I respect him even less than Southern or Goldy now. They're partisan hacks with horrible ideas, but at least they have ideas. Sargon is a Dave Rubin with a British accent, a camwhore for the identification crowd who plays the "moderate" when he's afraid of losing relevance among the galaxy of Right Wing Identitarian pundits.
There's no doubt that Sargon is a terrible debater, nor that he has a very inflated ego of himself.

However, I continue to find your description of everyone you disagree with as "far-right" annoying. Taking the US as a proxy for the rest of the world, and Democrats as a proxy for the left, and Republicans as a proxy for the right, the data shows something different:
http://www.people-press.org/interactive ... 1994-2017/

The right have stayed more or less the same, and the left has become ever more "left". What would have been considered fairly centrist 20 years ago is now "far-right".

The Kavanaugh circus was a pretty good example of the problem, I think. A real argument could have been built on his judicial record with regards to the right to privacy. But no, the political calculation from the Democrats was that they would be more likely to achieve their immediate ends by piggy-backing on divisive intersectionality politics that pits all white men as inherently guilty. That was their fundamental error, as that is completely antithetical to Western values. If they had built their case on his judicial record, they may still have lost, but they wouldn't have energised Republicans against them, and may even have won over many Republicans who do care about the right to privacy.

It isn't that I want the right to win, because I still disagree with them on a lot, but, rather, that the left deserves to lose.

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:00 pm

Kirbmarc wrote: Aragon has drifted to the far right to play along with his increasingly far-right audience.
Sargon has stayed exactly where he is but the left have sped up in their power-slide into the extreme end of the spectrum. You just don't see it because of perspective...or lack of.

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Post by Steersman » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:04 pm

Kirbmarc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:24 am
I forgot Creativity73...But past that was there anyone who even joined in based off that now forgotten stream?
No. But it does mark one of the last times Brive and Kirb were on good terms, shortly before the fall of Australia.
The Ethno-State Big Rift actually happened much later. Until a few months ago Brive sensibly believed that Southern was a hack with terrible ideas. He seemed to support what he now derides as "civic nationalism".

The Defense of White Anglo Australia is a relatively recent development, which started after the Aussies got legal gay marriage.
Speaking of which, seems even the "Imam of Peace" (??), is getting into the act of defending Australia which is probably mostly "white anglo":



And, being the helper that I am, I suggested an elaboration on the theme of "tests for migrants":



You might also note that a recent election in the Province of Quebec has brought to power a party that is, at least in the first flush of such power, calling for similar "impositions" on immigrants:

What does a CAQ win mean for Quebec immigration?

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:20 pm

Kirbmarc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:24 am
I forgot Creativity73...But past that was there anyone who even joined in based off that now forgotten stream?
No. But it does mark one of the last times Brive and Kirb were on good terms, shortly before the fall of Australia.
The Ethno-State Big Rift actually happened much later. Until a few months ago Brive sensibly believed that Southern was a hack with terrible ideas. He seemed to support what he now derides as "civic nationalism".

The Defense of White Anglo Australia is a relatively recent development, which started after the Aussies got legal gay marriage.
As opposed to Black-Anglo Australia? :lol: :lol: You are so 1 dimensional.

I still think Southern’s book (as opposed to her underlying pitch) is a piece of crap - v. poorly structured and argued. Re me supporting the oxymoron of (civic) nationalism divorced from culture and heritage? Hmmm. Nope. Though I didn’t pay the topic much heed while we had a narrow field of vision focused on left-Pomo FTB.

The zealot-left driven marriage debate pissed me off. That was Nov last year. I only properly engaged with the right spectrum podcasts late last year and into Xmas. I completed my own Australian ABS driven migration ‘research’ in March / Apr this year.

As you know I have a nuanced view on the right-spectrum POV.

You have me pegged as a racialist as opposed to a culturalist. So it’s funny you zoom into the marriage debate as a driver ....

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Did you ever get around to pointing out a mass-migration European nation that was civic-national best practice?

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:26 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: And I'm done dealing with crocodile tears from Kavanaugh supporters. You seem to only notice when the "smear campaign" is done against your side, but when Bill Clinton is called a rapist, not a peep. If you really think that this is a one-sided war with the Republicans as innocent victims, then you are laughably gullible.
Broaddrick shared the hotel room with her friend and employee Norma Rogers. Rogers attended a conference seminar that morning, and says she returned to their room to find Broaddrick on the bed "in a state of shock," her pantyhose torn in the crotch and her lip swollen as though she had been hit. Rogers says Broaddrick told her Clinton had "forced himself on her."[12] Rogers helped Broaddrick ice her lip, and then the women left Little Rock. Rogers said that Broaddrick was very upset on the way home and blamed herself for letting Clinton in the room.[3] Broaddrick says she did not tell her husband, Gary Hickey, about the incident, and told him she accidentally injured her lip. He told NBC he did not remember the injury or her explanation.[3][13] David Broaddrick, however, has said he noticed her injured lip, and she told him that Clinton had raped her when he asked about it. Three other friends confirmed that Broaddrick had told them about the incident at the time: Susan Lewis, Louis Ma, and Jean Darden, Norma Rogers' sister.[3] Broaddrick did not recall the date of the alleged incident, but said it was spring of 1978 and that she had stayed in the Camelot Hotel. Records show Broaddrick attended a nursing home meeting at the Camelot Hotel in Little Rock on April 25, 1978.[3][13] The Clinton White House would not respond to requests for Clinton's official schedule for the date,[14] but news reports suggest that he was in Little Rock that day, with no official commitments in the morning.[3]
Wow. If you changed “Broaddrick” for “Ford” the claims and corroboration would be identical.

:lol: :roll:



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Post by AndrewV69 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:53 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:41 pm
Danny's tweet made it into the Guardian.
:o :o :o

Oh wait ... the Guardian. Carry on

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:45 pm

Go on. Pull the trigger and show me what happens.

http://i.imgur.com/OXj7vPv.jpg

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:30 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: And I'm done dealing with crocodile tears from Kavanaugh supporters. You seem to only notice when the "smear campaign" is done against your side, but when Bill Clinton is called a rapist, not a peep. If you really think that this is a one-sided war with the Republicans as innocent victims, then you are laughably gullible.
Broaddrick shared the hotel room with her friend and employee Norma Rogers. Rogers attended a conference seminar that morning, and says she returned to their room to find Broaddrick on the bed "in a state of shock," her pantyhose torn in the crotch and her lip swollen as though she had been hit. Rogers says Broaddrick told her Clinton had "forced himself on her."[12] Rogers helped Broaddrick ice her lip, and then the women left Little Rock. Rogers said that Broaddrick was very upset on the way home and blamed herself for letting Clinton in the room.[3] Broaddrick says she did not tell her husband, Gary Hickey, about the incident, and told him she accidentally injured her lip. He told NBC he did not remember the injury or her explanation.[3][13] David Broaddrick, however, has said he noticed her injured lip, and she told him that Clinton had raped her when he asked about it. Three other friends confirmed that Broaddrick had told them about the incident at the time: Susan Lewis, Louis Ma, and Jean Darden, Norma Rogers' sister.[3] Broaddrick did not recall the date of the alleged incident, but said it was spring of 1978 and that she had stayed in the Camelot Hotel. Records show Broaddrick attended a nursing home meeting at the Camelot Hotel in Little Rock on April 25, 1978.[3][13] The Clinton White House would not respond to requests for Clinton's official schedule for the date,[14] but news reports suggest that he was in Little Rock that day, with no official commitments in the morning.[3]
Wow. If you changed “Broaddrick” for “Ford” the claims and corroboration would be identical.

:lol: :roll:
And surely you recoiled against the Clinton accusations as well? Or maybe not?

You defenders of that petulant preppy might also note that recently the entire Democrat party was accused of being pedophiles, something quite worse than even a rapist. That didn't seem to bother you at all, which simply confirms you as a partisan hack.

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:48 pm

Brive1987 wrote: Go on. Pull the trigger and show me what happens.

http://i.imgur.com/OXj7vPv.jpg
Pretty light calibre, and she looks pretty strong. Nothing much on the side to clip her should she prove unprepared. This would be a different scenario.
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Post by free thoughtpolice » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:49 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: And I'm done dealing with crocodile tears from Kavanaugh supporters. You seem to only notice when the "smear campaign" is done against your side, but when Bill Clinton is called a rapist, not a peep. If you really think that this is a one-sided war with the Republicans as innocent victims, then you are laughably gullible.
Broaddrick shared the hotel room with her friend and employee Norma Rogers. Rogers attended a conference seminar that morning, and says she returned to their room to find Broaddrick on the bed "in a state of shock," her pantyhose torn in the crotch and her lip swollen as though she had been hit. Rogers says Broaddrick told her Clinton had "forced himself on her."[12] Rogers helped Broaddrick ice her lip, and then the women left Little Rock. Rogers said that Broaddrick was very upset on the way home and blamed herself for letting Clinton in the room.[3] Broaddrick says she did not tell her husband, Gary Hickey, about the incident, and told him she accidentally injured her lip. He told NBC he did not remember the injury or her explanation.[3][13] David Broaddrick, however, has said he noticed her injured lip, and she told him that Clinton had raped her when he asked about it. Three other friends confirmed that Broaddrick had told them about the incident at the time: Susan Lewis, Louis Ma, and Jean Darden, Norma Rogers' sister.[3] Broaddrick did not recall the date of the alleged incident, but said it was spring of 1978 and that she had stayed in the Camelot Hotel. Records show Broaddrick attended a nursing home meeting at the Camelot Hotel in Little Rock on April 25, 1978.[3][13] The Clinton White House would not respond to requests for Clinton's official schedule for the date,[14] but news reports suggest that he was in Little Rock that day, with no official commitments in the morning.[3]
Wow. If you changed “Broaddrick” for “Ford” the claims and corroboration would be identical.

:lol: :roll:
And surely you recoiled against the Clinton accusations as well? Or maybe not?

You defenders of that petulant preppy might also note that recently the entire Democrat party was accused of being pedophiles, something quite worse than even a rapist. That didn't seem to bother you at all, which simply confirms you as a partisan hack.
Now let's be fair. The right forces have only proven how lame and cucked the the leftard wet liberals are. It is an established fact that Hillary was having a Lesbian affair with Vince Foster that was at that time actively involved in faking Barack Hussein Obama's birth certificate, Obviously Sidney Obama and her FBI corroboraters worked with MI6 and the Kenyan CIA to fake his papers. What more evidence does a true libertarian skeptic with anti liberal leanings need to make up their mind?

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:55 pm

Brive1987 wrote: Go on. Pull the trigger and show me what happens.

http://i.imgur.com/OXj7vPv.jpg
The "Skilly" in me (Skill at arms instructor) is gnashing his teeth - not only is the position and hold of the weapon laughably bad (and very dangerous), the four-point-relationship (easily remembered by the mnemonic "EAST" - Eye, Aperture, Sight-blade, Target) is entirely absent. In other words, even if the weapon didn't fly backwards and injure the firer when the trigger is pulled, they're not even aiming at the target properly.

Piss-poor minus - 10 laps of the range, rifle held overhead, you stop and the laps get reset - GO!

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:00 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Pretty light calibre, and she looks pretty strong. Nothing much on the side to clip her should she prove unprepared.
There's so much wrong with your assessment, I could pump out a 45 minute lecture on the subject.

(not being a jerk, purely from a professional perspective)

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:09 pm

Bhurzum wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:00 pm
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Pretty light calibre, and she looks pretty strong. Nothing much on the side to clip her should she prove unprepared.
There's so much wrong with your assessment, I could pump out a 45 minute lecture on the subject.

(not being a jerk, purely from a professional perspective)
You kids today.

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:12 pm

Funny, I was taught also to shoot under less than ideal circumstances. Admittedly the woman in the photo is fucking up but all that's gonna happen is a very un-aimed shot, not some specular face-smack.

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Post by jugheadnaut » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:26 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: And I'm done dealing with crocodile tears from Kavanaugh supporters. You seem to only notice when the "smear campaign" is done against your side, but when Bill Clinton is called a rapist, not a peep. If you really think that this is a one-sided war with the Republicans as innocent victims, then you are laughably gullible.
Broaddrick shared the hotel room with her friend and employee Norma Rogers. Rogers attended a conference seminar that morning, and says she returned to their room to find Broaddrick on the bed "in a state of shock," her pantyhose torn in the crotch and her lip swollen as though she had been hit. Rogers says Broaddrick told her Clinton had "forced himself on her."[12] Rogers helped Broaddrick ice her lip, and then the women left Little Rock. Rogers said that Broaddrick was very upset on the way home and blamed herself for letting Clinton in the room.[3] Broaddrick says she did not tell her husband, Gary Hickey, about the incident, and told him she accidentally injured her lip. He told NBC he did not remember the injury or her explanation.[3][13] David Broaddrick, however, has said he noticed her injured lip, and she told him that Clinton had raped her when he asked about it. Three other friends confirmed that Broaddrick had told them about the incident at the time: Susan Lewis, Louis Ma, and Jean Darden, Norma Rogers' sister.[3] Broaddrick did not recall the date of the alleged incident, but said it was spring of 1978 and that she had stayed in the Camelot Hotel. Records show Broaddrick attended a nursing home meeting at the Camelot Hotel in Little Rock on April 25, 1978.[3][13] The Clinton White House would not respond to requests for Clinton's official schedule for the date,[14] but news reports suggest that he was in Little Rock that day, with no official commitments in the morning.[3]
Wow. If you changed “Broaddrick” for “Ford” the claims and corroboration would be identical.

:lol: :roll:
And surely you recoiled against the Clinton accusations as well? Or maybe not?
<<Sound of plane soaring overhead at supersonic speed>>
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: You defenders of that petulant preppy might also note that recently the entire Democrat party was accused of being pedophiles, something quite worse than even a rapist. That didn't seem to bother you at all, which simply confirms you as a partisan hack.
A big problem with whatabout-ism is that each side tends to minimize bad behavior on their own side while exaggerating both the scope and magnitude of bad behavior by the enemies. What's just hardball politics on your side becomes a threat to the republic when the other side does something similar. And hence a cycle of escalation naturally tends to develop.

Can you name a single right of center publication outside of alt-right sources like Breitbart and Infowars that gave any credence whatsoever to Pizzagate? Fox News, National Review, The Weekly Standard, Reason, Daily Caller? Anyone? They tended to ignore it so as not to give it further oxygen or actively ridicule it. Or is suddenly the alt-right the exemplars of the entire right? If I stated the "the entire Republican Party was accused of being Nazis", which perhaps is worse than pedophiles, you'd easily see that as specious nonsense. Why do you make the same sort of argument from the other side?

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Post by jugheadnaut » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:38 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: Now let's be fair. The right forces have only proven how lame and cucked the the leftard wet liberals are. It is an established fact that Hillary was having a Lesbian affair with Vince Foster that was at that time actively involved in faking Barack Hussein Obama's birth certificate, Obviously Sidney Obama and her FBI corroboraters worked with MI6 and the Kenyan CIA to fake his papers. What more evidence does a true libertarian skeptic with anti liberal leanings need to make up their mind?
QED

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:44 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Funny, I was taught also to shoot under less than ideal circumstances. Admittedly the woman in the photo is fucking up but all that's gonna happen is a very un-aimed shot, not some specular face-smack.
As already stated, I'm looking at it from a professional perspective, not an isolated case. Allow me to elaborate:

When you look at that image, you probably think "she might get a black eye" or something along those lines. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

When I look at that image, I think:

1) We probably have a lousy instructor on the loose.
2) There are probably more poor students on the loose.
3) We need to assess and retrain *everyone* to iron out any bad habit(s).
4) The firer is a risk to her(?) own safety.
5) The firer is a risk to the safety of team mates.
6) The firer is ineffective (the same as having one man down, one weapon "out" of the firefight).
7) Ammunition is being wasted (a hanging offense in my unit).
8) The individual cannot be trusted for stag (sentry/guard duty).
9) The individual is a liability for unit, asset and area security (yet another hanging offense!).
10) Needless wear on equipment.
11) Loss of training time/value.
12) Pissing tax payers money up the wall (Ok, might not apply to Maoist guerillas but you get my point).
13) Very poor optics for the unit ("Mickey Mouse factor" as we used to call it).
14) If her SAA skills/drills are that bad, chances are she's weak in other disciplines.
15) Her skills/drills are a reflection of my standards as an instructor/leader - hells no! Not on my watch! Get your fucking arse down-range, rifle overhead and when you get back, get your fucking boots into my "In" tray!

I could go on (at great length) on each individual point but I've probably bored the tits off you already. Suffice to say, if I was part of her training team, she'd be holding her weapon properly. And her boots would be highly polished. Also, get a fucking haircut.

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:49 pm

jugheadnaut wrote: leanings
Can you state which Republicans repudiated the Pizzagate conspiracy? How about the Swiftboat campaign, where a good man that risked his life in combat had his reputation trashed? No? Clinton's blowjob, which lent a certain polarity to politics?

I'm not bothering to look it up, but IIRC Fox News gave credence to Pizzagate.

You're whatabouting yourself. You decry the tactics of one side when it suits you, but go into great detail about the other side to defend them. I know you're a smart man. If you want to talk about how politics have become a zero-sum game, I'm with you. If you want to talk about unfounded accusations becoming truth at the hands of zealot partisans, sing it brother. If you want to say "jesus, all my side did was pull out a baseball bat, and they pulled out a gun" then fuck off.

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:02 pm

Bhurzum wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Funny, I was taught also to shoot under less than ideal circumstances. Admittedly the woman in the photo is fucking up but all that's gonna happen is a very un-aimed shot, not some specular face-smack.
As already stated, I'm looking at it from a professional perspective, not an isolated case. Allow me to elaborate:

When you look at that image, you probably think "she might get a black eye" or something along those lines. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

When I look at that image, I think:

1) We probably have a lousy instructor on the loose.
2) There are probably more poor students on the loose.
3) We need to assess and retrain *everyone* to iron out any bad habit(s).
4) The firer is a risk to her(?) own safety.
5) The firer is a risk to the safety of team mates.
6) The firer is ineffective (the same as having one man down, one weapon "out" of the firefight).
7) Ammunition is being wasted (a hanging offense in my unit).
8) The individual cannot be trusted for stag (sentry/guard duty).
9) The individual is a liability for unit, asset and area security (yet another hanging offense!).
10) Needless wear on equipment.
11) Loss of training time/value.
12) Pissing tax payers money up the wall (Ok, might not apply to Maoist guerillas but you get my point).
13) Very poor optics for the unit ("Mickey Mouse factor" as we used to call it).
14) If her SAA skills/drills are that bad, chances are she's weak in other disciplines.
15) Her skills/drills are a reflection of my standards as an instructor/leader - hells no! Not on my watch! Get your fucking arse down-range, rifle overhead and when you get back, get your fucking boots into my "In" tray!

I could go on (at great length) on each individual point but I've probably bored the tits off you already. Suffice to say, if I was part of her training team, she'd be holding her weapon properly. And her boots would be highly polished. Also, get a fucking haircut.
Not bored, a firearms instructor myself.
1- No regularity of firearms in the line.
2- Vast differences in the " uniforms." Even Maoist guerillas usually muster something in common to discern them from the rabble.
3-This was a photo-op for the story; for all we know she was a cook, drafted briefly to shore up the numbers for the picture. I rather doubt that they had any ammo issued. They rarely do. This was designed to show a woman on the line. As with most diversity initiatives, it screwed up.
My point was simply that she could fire the weapon, and the pistol-grip and a firm hold would ensure no amusing repercussion. If you like, I can demonstrate with the exact same calibre the next time I go shooting in the woods-for obvious reasons I'm not going to do that at the range.

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:28 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: If you like, I can demonstrate with the exact same calibre the next time I go shooting in the woods-for obvious reasons I'm not going to do that at the range.
The envy would probably kill me.

/grumbling

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:29 pm

Yup, I nearly pissed myself...


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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:36 pm

Bhurzum wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: If you like, I can demonstrate with the exact same calibre the next time I go shooting in the woods-for obvious reasons I'm not going to do that at the range.
The envy would probably kill me.

/grumbling
I feel bad I have to sell my oldies-some from WWI and the Spanish Civil War. Enfield .303 in unbelievable condition. But the kids don't show much interest and I'm too crippled up to use them anymore.

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:45 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: I feel bad I have to sell my oldies-some from WWI and the Spanish Civil War. Enfield .303 in unbelievable condition. But the kids don't show much interest and I'm too crippled up to use them anymore.
That is pretty sad. Still, looking on the bright side, at least you got to own/use a private collection - here in the UK, they jail you for owning a nail file.

I'd pay good money for a session with your Enfield.

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Post by SM1957 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:08 pm

Driftless wrote:
SM1957 wrote: GCSE textbook pulled from schools because facts are racist.

And you can't expect black people to be good parents in 2018.They try to be good fathers, but the slave trade makes it so hard for them.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-45784222
The article says 21% of black families are single-parent, 16% of all families of all races.

The book says Caribbean fathers are "largely absent". That seems to be an overstatement to me, unless the 21% stat is wrong. I would take largely absent to mean a majority of black families are single female parent.
The article does say that, unsourced. The Guardian says otherwise

' An Equality and Human Rights Commission report in 2011 found that as many as 65% of African-Caribbean children are raised by one parent – nearly always the mother.

The impact of all these absent fathers, not to mention the burden on the mother, has been well documented.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... ck-fathers

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:27 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Go on. Pull the trigger and show me what happens.

http://i.imgur.com/OXj7vPv.jpg
Pretty light calibre, and she looks pretty strong. Nothing much on the side to clip her should she prove unprepared. This would be a different scenario.
I spent some time with the Australian SLR, the round in use was 7.62 rimless NATO. From memory, the weapon had a kick that would bruise shoulders on the range if you weren’t properly sorted. That grip of hers looks piss weak. I can’t even see where the left hand is.

Would not pull that trigger.




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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:42 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: And I'm done dealing with crocodile tears from Kavanaugh supporters. You seem to only notice when the "smear campaign" is done against your side, but when Bill Clinton is called a rapist, not a peep. If you really think that this is a one-sided war with the Republicans as innocent victims, then you are laughably gullible.
Broaddrick shared the hotel room with her friend and employee Norma Rogers. Rogers attended a conference seminar that morning, and says she returned to their room to find Broaddrick on the bed "in a state of shock," her pantyhose torn in the crotch and her lip swollen as though she had been hit. Rogers says Broaddrick told her Clinton had "forced himself on her."[12] Rogers helped Broaddrick ice her lip, and then the women left Little Rock. Rogers said that Broaddrick was very upset on the way home and blamed herself for letting Clinton in the room.[3] Broaddrick says she did not tell her husband, Gary Hickey, about the incident, and told him she accidentally injured her lip. He told NBC he did not remember the injury or her explanation.[3][13] David Broaddrick, however, has said he noticed her injured lip, and she told him that Clinton had raped her when he asked about it. Three other friends confirmed that Broaddrick had told them about the incident at the time: Susan Lewis, Louis Ma, and Jean Darden, Norma Rogers' sister.[3] Broaddrick did not recall the date of the alleged incident, but said it was spring of 1978 and that she had stayed in the Camelot Hotel. Records show Broaddrick attended a nursing home meeting at the Camelot Hotel in Little Rock on April 25, 1978.[3][13] The Clinton White House would not respond to requests for Clinton's official schedule for the date,[14] but news reports suggest that he was in Little Rock that day, with no official commitments in the morning.[3]
Wow. If you changed “Broaddrick” for “Ford” the claims and corroboration would be identical.

:lol: :roll:
And surely you recoiled against the Clinton accusations as well? Or maybe not?

You defenders of that petulant preppy might also note that recently the entire Democrat party was accused of being pedophiles, something quite worse than even a rapist. That didn't seem to bother you at all, which simply confirms you as a partisan hack.
Pizza-gate? :roll: :lol:

Re the rapes. There is clear difference in the corroboration between Ford and Broaddrick. Anyway it’s history now.


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Post by jugheadnaut » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:45 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
jugheadnaut wrote: leanings
Can you state which Republicans repudiated the Pizzagate conspiracy? How about the Swiftboat campaign, where a good man that risked his life in combat had his reputation trashed? No? Clinton's blowjob, which lent a certain polarity to politics?

I'm not bothering to look it up, but IIRC Fox News gave credence to Pizzagate.

You're whatabouting yourself. You decry the tactics of one side when it suits you, but go into great detail about the other side to defend them. I know you're a smart man. If you want to talk about how politics have become a zero-sum game, I'm with you. If you want to talk about unfounded accusations becoming truth at the hands of zealot partisans, sing it brother. If you want to say "jesus, all my side did was pull out a baseball bat, and they pulled out a gun" then fuck off.
That's moving the goalposts, isn't it? You stated "The entire Democratic Party was accused of being pedophiles". Are you now saying lack of repudiation is tantamount to accusation? As I stated, the main strategy in the conservative media was to ignore it and starve it of oxygen, which was probably the best way to handle it. And no, Fox News did not cover it, either in their straight news operation or opinion shows. I do recall a rumor at the time that Sean Hannity wanted to cover it with a JAQ'ing spin, but was ordered not to. Fox covered the arrest of the guy that went into the pizzeria with a rifle by saying he was driven by "fake news stories".

On Swiftboating, John McCain called it "dishonest and dishonorable", and George W. Bush conceded that Kerry's war record was more honorable than his own. That said, some of the questioning of Kerry's military service was fair game, especially given to what extent he was using his military record as a major qualification of his candidacy. Many, if not most, of those he served with didn't like him. Most incriminatingly, he lied several times, including on the floor of the Senate, about having participated in clandestine military action in Cambodia.

Please point out where I've justified something contemptible Republicans have done by stated Democrats have done similar or worse. I studiously avoid that kind of argument.The one place whataboutery has actual merit is pointing out hypocrisy, but I don't believe I've even done that.

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Post by Kirbmarc » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:16 pm

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Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:18 pm
There's no doubt that Sargon is a terrible debater, nor that he has a very inflated ego of himself.

However, I continue to find your description of everyone you disagree with as "far-right" annoying.
Sargon has endorsed the Front National and has joined the UKIP. Both parties belong to the spectrum of the far right. He hasn't joined the mainstream right wing Conservative Party or supported the gaullist Les Republicains. He's also expressed sympathies for AfD, not the CDU/CSU. That's yet another far right party.
Taking the US as a proxy for the rest of the world, and Democrats as a proxy for the left, and Republicans as a proxy for the right, the data shows something different:
http://www.people-press.org/interactive ... 1994-2017/
The US aren't a good proxy for the rest of the world, especially not for Europe. Due to the history of the Cold War there have been no labourist/social democratic parties or influential movements in the US.

Compared to the average European parties, the Democrats span a range of policies from the center-right to the center-left. Barack Obama's fiscal and foreign policy were analogous to those of many centrist/center-right European parties. The Republicans, on the other hand, range from the center-right to the extremely conservative Religious Right and the far right. Trump has adopted a lot of far-right talking points and suggested policies.
The right have stayed more or less the same, and the left has become ever more "left". What would have been considered fairly centrist 20 years ago is now "far-right".
This is only true when it comes to social issues like gay marriage, abortion, divorce, or LGBT rights. In economic terms both the Democrats and the GOP have adopted different flavors of neoliberal policies: the GOP has supported trickle-down economics, the Dems have adopted moderate fiscal stimulus policies.

Keynesian economics, which were mainstream in the 1950s-1970s, are seen as far-left today. The Glass-Steagal act is seen as a social democrat talking point, even though it was passed under FDR. Bill Clinton liberalized banking economy following neoliberal policies that did away with some regulations that were approved under Lyndon Johnson.

With regards to immigration and intergration the shift has been towards stricter border policy across the board, at least until the Trump administration and the open border reaction to Trump's closed border policies. The GOP used to be much more supportive of legal and legalized immigration. Ronald Reagan, not exactly a left-wing politician, supported an illegal immigration amnesty similar to DACA back in 1986. Barack Obama supported border policies that would have been mainstream Republican talking points under the Bush sr. years.

In terms of foreign policy there have been few significant changes, mostly about Obama's disengagement from the Iraq quagmire.
The Kavanaugh circus was a pretty good example of the problem, I think. A real argument could have been built on his judicial record with regards to the right to privacy. But no, the political calculation from the Democrats was that they would be more likely to achieve their immediate ends by piggy-backing on divisive intersectionality politics that pits all white men as inherently guilty. That was their fundamental error, as that is completely antithetical to Western values. If they had built their case on his judicial record, they may still have lost, but they wouldn't have energised Republicans against them, and may even have won over many Republicans who do care about the right to privacy.

It isn't that I want the right to win, because I still disagree with them on a lot, but, rather, that the left deserves to lose.
The rise of the Social Justice intersectional movements has muddled the waters. The SocJus is tribal, simplistic, and aims for emotional and visceral reactions instead of discussion of policies. It's a movement that has no clear political aims beyond protesting "the Patriarchy". The SocJus is largely disinterested in economics, gives little attention to foreign policy, and has unworkable, pie-in-the-sky approaches to the issues of immigration ("Completely Open Borders") that aren't traditionally left or right, and are actually closer to extreme libertarian positions about abolishing all sorts of governmental control. It's a movement that is often only superficially left wing.

It's not a coincidence that Bernie Sanders, a politician classified as far left in the US but who would fit within a center-left party in Europe, has been skeptical of the Completely Open Borders and has called it a Koch brothers policy.

The SocJus is a mix that is all over the map. They can profess to be socialists or social democrats but then they can ally with multinational corporations like Google against employees like James Damore, just because Damore has criticized some assumptions of social constructionism.

They claim to be against privilege, but then praise market giants like Starbucks or Nike when those companies perform some cheap "woke" virtue-signalling. They claim to support LGBT rights, but then are unwilling to strongly criticize the homophobic parts of islam because that's "islamophobia". They claim to be the True Supporters of Women's Rights, but gush over hijabs and other conservative misogynistic parts of islam.

They claim to be in favor of police reform and more rights to the accused when it comes to police shootings, but then want to do away with presumption of innocence when it comes to accusations of rape and sexual assault. They're for prison reform and amnesties for minor crimes, but think that hate speech and not using someone's preferred pronouns should be illegal and carry legal punishment.

They have no coherent principles except the idea that "the Patriarchy" is bad and there's a pecking order of oppression.

The SocJus is actually very often a tool of corporate interests. They can be easy duped into supporting Starbucks cutting the wages of their employees if Starbucks promises to hire refugees who are willing to work for less. They stand with Disney and accuse anyone who doesn't like their "woke" Star Wars movies which include Asian characters of being bigoted, when Disney is using "wokeness" mostly as a tool to appeal to foreign markets and sell more merchandise. They clamor about mandatory diversity in the workplace and wage gaps, but don't care about wage freeze or market monopolies or less workers' rights. They laugh at the idea that blue-collar white workers might have legitimate economic and social issues, because they see every white person as privileged just because they're white. If companies decided to pay men less to reduce the wage gap they'd probably be more focused on the reduction of the gap then on the fact that women aren't actually earning more.

A Pharyngula poster once replied to a post of mine discussing some attempts at police reform, like reducing the number of people arrested or coming in contact with the police through the decriminalization of drug use, by saying that he didn't really care about reforming the police or laws, only that the police stopped killing black people. That's the SocJus in a nutshell: lots of outrage, no real ideas on what to do.

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:21 pm

The problem for democrats (and liberals in general), is that their agenda is increasingly intertwined with that of the SJW.

Everything is entrenched privilege, racist, Nazi or literally rape.

The Dems future lies in battalions of Alyssa Milanos led by assorted Maxine Waters. Good luck.




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Post by SM1957 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:26 pm

It is amazing how white that protest is.

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Post by Brive1987 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:43 pm

Just like Dark Side of the Moon and Wizard, you can align the word “left-liberal” with Kirb’s SocJus and achieve near perfect alignment.
Sargon has endorsed the Front National and has joined the UKIP. Both parties belong to the spectrum of the far right.
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The UK Independence Party (UKIP) is calling for an Australian-style points-based visa system to reduce immigration.

:lol: :lol: god help you

Now back to that Euro civic-national example of best practice set against mass migration .....

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Post by Kirbmarc » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:49 pm

Brive1987 wrote: As opposed to Black-Anglo Australia? :lol: :lol: You are so 1 dimensional.

I still think Southern’s book (as opposed to her underlying pitch) is a piece of crap - v. poorly structured and argued. Re me supporting the oxymoron of (civic) nationalism divorced from culture and heritage? Hmmm. Nope. Though I didn’t pay the topic much heed while we had a narrow field of vision focused on left-Pomo FTB.

The zealot-left driven marriage debate pissed me off. That was Nov last year. I only properly engaged with the right spectrum podcasts late last year and into Xmas. I completed my own Australian ABS driven migration ‘research’ in March / Apr this year.

As you know I have a nuanced view on the right-spectrum POV.

You have me pegged as a racialist as opposed to a culturalist. So it’s funny you zoom into the marriage debate as a driver ....
As I've written many times, you are focused more on culture than on "one drop" racial classifications. You're not in the Tara McCarthy/Richard Spencer camp. However you often use culture in a sense that makes me raise my eyebrows, since you see to think that cultural differences between different European cultures are largely negligible, while those between the Anglo substrate of Australia and China or India are impossible to bridge.

You have written weird posts about an African woman who was so integrated within French culture that she wanted to play Jean D'Arc, at times arguing that this meant that French culture was somehow "stolen", as if what mattered more wasn't preserving culture by teaching it and having people embracing it, but defending it from some sort of cultural appropriation. Yet you've praised Italian or Greek immigrants for fitting in within the Anglo Australian zeitgeist, and you haven't argued that they were appropriating Anglo culture and "stealing" Anglo heritage. This is, again, weird from a purely cultural perspective.

You also seem to think that a Russian supporter of TradLife/fascist ideas is an interesting if a bit extreme source of information and suggestions, while Turkish trad-life supporters of fascist ideas are invaders, not because they're theocrats or supporters of fascism, but because they're not western. Again, this is strange from a purely cultural perspective, because Russian culture is not less alien from Anglo-Australian culture than Turkish culture.

Jokes aside it's hard for me to see where, in your position, culture ends and ancestry begins. You're not obssessed with people who might have one drop of non-white blood like McCarthy or Spencer are, but you have a tendency to associate culture with ancestry and to think that cultural integration is largely impossible.

Also you've endorsed Lauren Southern's video about non-white people in Paris, which wasn't about showcasing cultural practices, but about singling out people for their physical appearance tied to their ancestry. More weird stuff, from a purely cultural perspective.

Basically, jokes aside, you're mostly concerned with preserving the Anglo trad-life, but you seem to very closely associate it with ancestry, and to doubt that non-Europeans can join in, while other European or European offshoots get a pass. So in practice you seem more triggered by the idea of Chinese or Indian or African people moving to Australia than by the idea of white South African immigration. Which is, again, weird and eyebrow-raising when you then say that you want to preserve culture, not ancestry.
Did you ever get around to pointing out a mass-migration European nation that was civic-national best practice?
If I point out Swiss integration policies, you're going to reply that Switzerland is an ethno-state, even though it's not, and to say that it doesn't matter that Switzerland as a higher percentage of muslims than Australia. If I point out that France is also adopting some of the Swiss integration policies, you're going to argue that those don't count because France has already fallen. If I point out programs of integration of the next generation of kids with immigrant parents, you're going to say that they don't work on adults, which is true but beside the point. If I make a case for civic integration through shared civic duty (an idea that once you seemed to support) you're going to reply with memes about me wanting to hug terrorists and whisper them quotes from John Locke.

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Post by Keating » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:10 am

Kirbmarc wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:16 pm
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Don’t you see you’re trying to have it both ways? You agree that if you were a centrist on social issues 20 years ago, you’d be “far right” today. You also admit that things like open borders being embraced by the left as a shibboleth is a relatively new development. Then you try to say that any political party that runs against these issues is automatically “far right”.

Are you seriously going to claim the mainstream “conservative” party in Australia is socially centrist or against a big Australia via immigration? Gay marriage passed under the current government, and the current Prime Minister is on record supporting increasing the immigration rate. Don’t get me started on the Labor Party that which has both of those, plus a major helping of SocJus. Then there’s the Greens which is drowning in intersectionality and cosmopolitanism. While I can’t claim to be an expert on UKIP’s or AfD’s party platforms, the idea that the mainstream Conservative party is the furtherest “right” any sensible person can go is absurd given my Australian perspective.

It’s so bad that I’m a single issue voter on reducing immigration. I will hold my nose regardless of other policies simply because I believe reducing immigration (and anti-SocJus) are crucial to Australia’s survival. You yourself agree neither of these positions is sufficient to brand someone “far right”. I’d add that I think the only reason you do so is because you’re too attached to accusing others of Nazism.

Maybe the party platform of UKIP or AfD has portions about gasing the Jews. I won’t claim otherwise, as I haven’t read them. The Australian experience means that I know your binary proposition is false, and I doubt you’re motives.

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Post by Kirbmarc » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:15 am

Brive1987 wrote: Pizza-gate? :roll: :lol:
PizzaGate was heavily supported by Brittany Pettibone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pwQbU4u9YY

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Post by Keating » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:17 am

Stupid autocorrect.

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Post by Keating » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:24 am

PizzaGate was heavily supported by Brittany Pettibone.
I don’t watch Pettibone, and the main thing I get out of Brive posting thots is that Mrs Brive needs to put out more, but if you take this logic just a little further, next thing you’ll be apologising for quoting Winston Churchill because he did stuff you disagree with.

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Post by Kirbmarc » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:05 am

Keating wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:16 pm
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Don’t you see you’re trying to have it both ways? You agree that if you were a centrist on social issues 20 years ago, you’d be “far right” today. You also admit that things like open borders being embraced by the left as a shibboleth is a relatively new development. Then you try to say that any political party that runs against these issues is automatically “far right”. [/quoter]

Social reforms like gay marriage, divorce and abortion rights have become parts of the mainstream by now. They're all positive developments from a secular, non-religious perspective, so going back from there is a staple of the right-wing religious conservatives. I don't see any point in walking back from those ideas from a secular perspectivre. Since they're accepted across the board any movement that wants to walk back from those is, by defintion, reactionary, just like after interracial marriage was made legal any movement that wants to walk back from there is reactionary.

Completely Open Borders is an extremist position that is more performative than real, at least for now. The problem is that there's a lack of discussion of a pragmatic middle ground between the Trump position of giving zero tolerance to immigration from certain areas, and of giving zero amnesties to illegal immigrants no matter the consequences, and the idea that borders are inherently oppressive and all those who want to come should be let in. As I've written Ronald Reagan, not exactly a SJW, was in favor of limited amnesty for illegal immigrants, similar to DACA.

The far-right position is the one based on the idea that immigration from certain areas is an erosion of "national identity", and civic integration is largely impossible. The SocJus idea is that all immmigration is beneficial, and any sort of requirement for immigrants and incentive to integration is racism and oppression. There's little talk about a sensible middle-ground which tries to conjugate economic requirements, culturally civic integration, and tries to regulate immigration fluxes rather than simpoly lifting borders or closing them. Most of the discussion is about SocJus or Alt-Right virtue signalling.

Economics is the elephant in the room. Very few people discuss wage freeze, or unemployment and underemployment, or predatory loans, or the gradual erosion of workers' rights. GDP growth seems to be the only thing that matters. This actually ties in with immigration. Immigration is economically positive in some sectors, but it's not so positive in others, especially if it's combined with wage freeze or even wage reduction. The economic model of hiring cheap foreign labor is one of the reasons why immigration causes some social issues among the working class. This is a point which is often overlooked.

An alt-right project of "cultural defense" is likely to assume that all forms of immigration are the same, in all economic sectors, just like the SocJus Open Borders model seems to think that the only important thing is allowing people to come in, regardless of whether this creates or destroys economic opportunities for the working class. In some sectors immigration is required due to worker shortage, but not every part of economics is the same, and you can't simply reduce job opportunities for the native working class in the name of GDP growth and expect no backlash.
Are you seriously going to claim the mainstream “conservative” party in Australia is socially centrist or against a big Australia via immigration? Gay marriage passed under the current government, and the current Prime Minister is on record supporting increasing the immigration rate. Don’t get me started on the Labor Party that which has both of those, plus a major helping of SocJus. Then there’s the Greens which is drowning in intersectionality and cosmopolitanism. While I can’t claim to be an expert on UKIP’s or AfD’s party platforms, the idea that the mainstream Conservative party is the furtherest “right” any sensible person can go is absurd given my Australian perspective.
Gay marriage is, by now, a fait accompli, and all of the reasons against it are dependent on irrational religious assumptions. I don't know enough of the specifics of the immigration policies of the Australian conservative party to see whether they might be economically beneficial or not, and to whom. Brive's "defense of culture" largely glosses over economics anyway.
It’s so bad that I’m a single issue voter on reducing immigration. I will hold my nose regardless of other policies simply because I believe reducing immigration (and anti-SocJus) are crucial to Australia’s survival. You yourself agree neither of these positions is sufficient to brand someone “far right”. I’d add that I think the only reason you do so is because you’re too attached to accusing others of Nazism.
That's the problem, I think. This kind of hyperbolic, apocalyptic ideas about the "twilight of the west" or the "survival of the nation" are what characterizes the far right. There are economic or social or cultural issues about immigration, but thinking that the survival of the nation is a dangerous exaggeration that can motivate decisions based not on improving living standards, or promoting integration, but on simply getting those who are perceived to be a danger out of the country, no matter how integrated they are, or their behavior.
Maybe the party platform of UKIP or AfD has portions about gasing the Jews. I won’t claim otherwise, as I haven’t read them. The Australian experience means that I know your binary proposition is false, and I doubt you’re motives.
It's not about "gassing the Jews". It's about basing one's approach to immigration on apocalyptic premises, and characterizing all immigrants from certain parts of the world as a potential existential danger. It's about an approach that doesn't allow room for integration within a common legal framework, and sees different cultures as an inherent threat to an alleged cultural essence.

Cultural mixing is actually a very good thing, provided that one preserves liberal democratic principles. People who immigrate and integrate successfully can be a huge resource. The American melting pot has been a source of strength. Preserving identity at all costs in the face of change is reactionary.

The trick is getting policies right to favor the right kind of immigration, to preserve liberal democratic values, to create jobs and opportunities rather than to suppress them, to promote mixing and social peace rather than identitarian movements and social unrest, to deal with issues by an evidence-based, result-oriented approach rather than on the basis of emotional outrage and identitarian essentialism.

The problems I have with the alt-right/alt-lite is that they're apocalyptic and essentialist. Like in Lauren Southern video, where she went around filming non-white people in Paris and argued that this was the end of France. Even if you concedes that she wasn't talking about race but culture (and that's a point which is hard to argue in the face of her choosing to specifically film non-white people) what exactly is the big cultural issue with people peacefully going on about their business? There was a dude doing the same thing in an Australian supermarket, going around filming non-white people doing their shopping. What's the point of these videos from a non-racist, cultural perspective?

Their point would have been much stronger if those people were filming people carrying around signs about how "Democracy should go to hell" or "Islam will conquer the world", as it has happened in the UK plenty of times. Or if they were making a point about FGM in non-white communities in France or Australia,. Those are cultural practices which are easy to argue to be a threat to French or Australian liberal-democratic, secular values. But the idea that just by existing and walking around the streets of Paris or an Australian supermarket non-white people are a threat to French or Australian culture is hard to justify from a non-racial, cultural point of view.

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Post by Brive1987 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:22 am

Kirb’s Muslim whispering celebrates placing as many people from the bottom left into the top right.

A) because it’s a liberal aspiration to be “colour blind”

B) because he has a truck load of Two Treatises of Government and he gets 15% commission.

C) someone told him the self expression value is a constant and not a variable

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Post by Brive1987 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:26 am

Gay marriage is, by now, a fait accompli, and all of the reasons against it are dependent on irrational religious assumptions.
Not according to the hallowed UDHRs Article 16

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

It’s a long passive bow indeed to interpret this using SJW POMOisms

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Post by Suet Cardigan » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:28 am

Add the Wellcome Trust to the list of institutions infected by the feminist/sjw virus:
How the hell do you pronounce womxn?

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Post by Kirbmarc » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:34 am

Keating wrote:
PizzaGate was heavily supported by Brittany Pettibone.
I don’t watch Pettibone, and the main thing I get out of Brive posting thots is that Mrs Brive needs to put out more, but if you take this logic just a little further, next thing you’ll be apologising for quoting Winston Churchill because he did stuff you disagree with.
Brive was laughing at PizzaGate, so I pointed out that it was supported by some of the people he seems to think are reasonable. It's no different than pointing out to PZ fans who are praising him for his condemnation of islamophobia. that PZ burned a Qu'ran and thought that islam was damnably bad. It's pointing out a discrepancy between one's position and the ideas of the people they support. Everyone does this. It's pointing out cognitive dissonance.

I don't believe Brive supports PizzaGate, but he does seem to think that Pettibone is a serious thinker, which is put in question from his own point of view by her support for PizzaGate. Similarly pointing out the Evolution of the Peezus is a good way to raise questions about how much of his outrage at "islamophobia" is genuine and how much it's pandering to his new friends and acquaintances.

The Winstor Churchill brouhaha is SocJus performative outrage at the idea that important historic figures weren't perfect, and the idea that by quoting someone historically relevant about a specific topic you're tainted with ALL the ideas they ever had, and ALL the things they ever did, so by quoting Churchill on some topic you're supporting starving India. Which is dumb, and stupidly hypocritical because the SocJus thinks (rightly) that quoting Mohammed doesn't necessarily make you a supporter of slavery or child rape, even though Mohammed practiced both.

If I had accused Brive of supporting PizzaGate because he supports Pettibone you might have a point. But I didn't. I simply argued that what is laughably stupid to him isn't so laughably stupid to people he thinks are rational, interesting thinkers.

Apples and oranges.

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Post by shoutinghorse » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:35 am

Kirbmarc wrote: Sargon has endorsed the Front National and has joined the UKIP. Both parties belong to the spectrum of the far right. He hasn't joined the mainstream right wing Conservative Party or supported the gaullist Les Republicains. He's also expressed sympathies for AfD, not the CDU/CSU. That's yet another far right party
If ever you desire a career change you would be an ideal candidate for a job as a SKY news researcher. :lol:

The political 'spectrum' in the UK has shifted way over to the left. The Labour party, traditionally a social democracy that came from the trade unions of working classes has been hijacked by the neo communist feral left, run by London centric Bollinger Bolsheviks who are feeding the SJW Marxist/Trotskyites with a utopian dogma and whipping up a frenzied hatred toward anyone who opposes their world view. Their complicit ally Islam is also fuelling the anti-Semitism views long held by many far left agitators. The 'Dirty Jew' banker and we all hate the banks right Comrade?

The Tories have become the new Blairite 'centrist' party, still interspersed with some trad Conservatives like Rees-Mogg but the front bench leadership has virtually been usurped by corporate middle manager types who so defined the Blair years of the noughties. Can you honestly separate the likes of May, Javid and Hammond from Blair, Brown and Mandelson?

As for the Lib/Dems. A party that came from the once great reforming Liberal party of Palmerston, Gladstone & Lloyd George is now little more than a Brussels compliant alt-Green party.

UKIP although tarred with the Far-Right tag from people like you are mostly populated by disaffected traditional and social conservatives, don't forget many of the working classes who may have been lifelong Labour voters are extremely conservative in their social thinking. (go visit the pubs/working man's clubs of Northern England and talk about Trans issues, go on, I dare you) It is people from these backgrounds that UKIP attract and not the knuckle dragging skinheaded Nazi your "Far-Right" tag hypothesizes.

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