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I guess somebody felt this thread needed more humor (humour, but I refuse to pay for an extra "u." Buy your own damn u.) This despite some pretty funny vids and such. And this is a pretty funny thread-
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You know, that's not normal.
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Yepfree thoughtpolice wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:04 pmI may be mistaken but didn't Rebecca Watson kind of not support and kind of made it known Stollz and her weren't friends? I could be wrong and it doesn't matter.
At any rate, I don't recall there was much of a dogpile.
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Radford and Stollznow settled quietly. The slymepit spammed everyone demanding apologies. Hemant publicly shamed everyone who didn't apologize for siding with Karen and saying Ben is a creep.
Rebecca said she didn't give a fuck about Karen being harassed because she thinks Karen is a liar and she doesn't like Karen. And this is your movement.
A man can harass and assault a woman in our movement, bludgeon her financially in a lawsuit, force her to settle on the day she is scheduled to give birth and the movement gloats about how great that is and the great feminist crusader who speaks about abuse is like IDGAF about her she is not my friend. "
Rebecca's usually more careful?
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Neither was Obama’s award for being black.
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I’m questioning the concept of “normal” as clearly winning a gong for what you might do is nonsensical.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑What are you talking about? His Nobel was quite different. No foreign govt pressured to nominate him.Brive1987 wrote: ↑Neither was Obama’s award for being black.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ https..://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1097281800362172417
You know, that's not normal.
In any case, according to one of the committee lobbying by countries (and harnessing support) is a common but fraught activity.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/sec ... ious-prizeNP Do countries lobby for their Nobel contenders?
GL Most of the lobbying is of an innocent nature. They try to collect as many signatures of support for the candidate as possible. But if you know anything about Norwegian mentality, lobbying a Norwegian quickly becomes counterproductive.
Do you research any of your comments or is it just “orange man bad”?
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Race SJWism has taken down two Dem Pres candidates. A third (Corry) has lurched out of orbit.
Now Commie (free stuff) Sanders is rolling.
Biden really needs to pour some oil on the waves.
Now Commie (free stuff) Sanders is rolling.
Biden really needs to pour some oil on the waves.
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Ah, the blithe dismissal "orange man bad." But you see, the problem is, Orange Man IS Bad! A narcissist, egomaniac and criminal. Facing more legal troubles than Nixon, having actually accomplished very little for the average Republican voter, and just generally being a turd of a human being. He embodies the politics of hate, wherein people hate the Democrats/liberals so much they go all TDS, just pro. They excuse every tweet, every violation of political norms, the emoluments clause, the nepotism, the election felonies, the philandering and the countless lies so they can "own the libs." Not a terribly great long-term strategy.Brive1987 wrote: ↑I’m questioning the concept of “normal” as clearly winning a gong for what you might do is nonsensical.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑What are you talking about? His Nobel was quite different. No foreign govt pressured to nominate him.Brive1987 wrote: ↑Neither was Obama’s award for being black.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ https..://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1097281800362172417
You know, that's not normal.
In any case, according to one of the committee lobbying by countries (and harnessing support) is a common but fraught activity.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/sec ... ious-prizeNP Do countries lobby for their Nobel contenders?
GL Most of the lobbying is of an innocent nature. They try to collect as many signatures of support for the candidate as possible. But if you know anything about Norwegian mentality, lobbying a Norwegian quickly becomes counterproductive.
Do you research any of your comments or is it just “orange man bad”?
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Didn't Trump get taken in as well? "It doesn't get worse than that." ? Political figures are required to say things after an attack. For real fun, look up Donald Trump and the Central Park Five. Hilarious stuff.
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What do you know, election fraud. Republican, of course.
This and the absentee ballots. I wonder why Trump isn't tweeting about it?
This and the absentee ballots. I wonder why Trump isn't tweeting about it?
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I believe, Brive, you're indulging in the category error that all Democrats are necessarily SJW, rather than simply paying lip service to potential voters. Just as Republicans talk tough on illegal immigration, until you look at their maids and groundskeepers. Saying all Democrats are SJW is like saying all Republicans are election cheats and criminals. Some are, but by no means all.
And there is a good deal of racism, real racism left in the western world. Pretending everything is made up, Smollett-style is unhelpful and untrue. It's far better than SJWs claim, but by no means absent.
And there is a good deal of racism, real racism left in the western world. Pretending everything is made up, Smollett-style is unhelpful and untrue. It's far better than SJWs claim, but by no means absent.
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It's not just lefties that fake attacks for political points. Remeber the deep state trying to poison Roger Stone so they could blame it n the Russians?
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Only the best people. The funny thing is that if the parties were reversed, you'd see Republicans decrying this as absolute proof that whoever hired that slimeball was to incompetent to run a gas station, let alone a country. Tribalism does weird things to people.free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ It's not just lefties that fake attacks for political points. Remeber the deep state trying to poison Roger Stone so they could blame it n the Russians?
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Trump does a good thing!
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Yeah? So they just read the transcript. I thought they were supposed to make funny stuff up. 2/10
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I like beer!
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I’m saying the current crop of Democrat Presidential candidates are spouting SJW bullshit (and/or socialist fantasy) and suffering as a consequence.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ I believe, Brive, you're indulging in the category error that all Democrats are necessarily SJW, rather than simply paying lip service to potential voters. Just as Republicans talk tough on illegal immigration, until you look at their maids and groundskeepers. Saying all Democrats are SJW is like saying all Republicans are election cheats and criminals. Some are, but by no means all.
And there is a good deal of racism, real racism left in the western world. Pretending everything is made up, Smollett-style is unhelpful and untrue. It's far better than SJWs claim, but by no means absent.
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Perhaps. But what’s that to do with Trump following apparent SOP for Nobel prizes?CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Ah, the blithe dismissal "orange man bad." But you see, the problem is, Orange Man IS Bad! A narcissist, egomaniac and criminal. Facing more legal troubles than Nixon, having actually accomplished very little for the average Republican voter, and just generally being a turd of a human being. He embodies the politics of hate, wherein people hate the Democrats/liberals so much they go all TDS, just pro. They excuse every tweet, every violation of political norms, the emoluments clause, the nepotism, the election felonies, the philandering and the countless lies so they can "own the libs." Not a terribly great long-term strategy.Brive1987 wrote: ↑I’m questioning the concept of “normal” as clearly winning a gong for what you might do is nonsensical.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑What are you talking about? His Nobel was quite different. No foreign govt pressured to nominate him.Brive1987 wrote: ↑Neither was Obama’s award for being black.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ https..://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1097281800362172417
You know, that's not normal.
In any case, according to one of the committee lobbying by countries (and harnessing support) is a common but fraught activity.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/sec ... ious-prizeNP Do countries lobby for their Nobel contenders?
GL Most of the lobbying is of an innocent nature. They try to collect as many signatures of support for the candidate as possible. But if you know anything about Norwegian mentality, lobbying a Norwegian quickly becomes counterproductive.
Do you research any of your comments or is it just “orange man bad”?
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Sanders doesn't seem to be on board with a lot of SJW bullshit:Brive1987 wrote: ↑I’m saying the current crop of Democrat Presidential candidates are spouting SJW bullshit (and/or socialist fantasy) and suffering as a consequence.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ I believe, Brive, you're indulging in the category error that all Democrats are necessarily SJW, rather than simply paying lip service to potential voters. Just as Republicans talk tough on illegal immigration, until you look at their maids and groundskeepers. Saying all Democrats are SJW is like saying all Republicans are election cheats and criminals. Some are, but by no means all.
And there is a good deal of racism, real racism left in the western world. Pretending everything is made up, Smollett-style is unhelpful and untrue. It's far better than SJWs claim, but by no means absent.
Though I guess that you could argue he's pushing "socialist fantasy". :bjarte:H]ere is my point -- and this is where there is going to be a division within the Democratic Party. It is not good enough for somebody to say, 'I'm a woman, vote for me.' No, that’s not good enough. What we need is a woman who has the guts to stand up to Wall Street, to the insurance companies, to the drug companies, to the fossil fuel industry.
In other words, one of the struggles that you’re going to be seeing in the Democratic Party is whether we go beyond identity politics. I think it’s a step forward in America if you have an African-American CEO of some major corporation. But you know what, if that guy is going to be shipping jobs out of this country, and exploiting his workers, it doesn’t mean a whole hell of a lot whether he’s black or white or Latino.
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For most of the other candidates the SJW bullshit is largely performative, to look progressive for the media. It's like Republicans blathering about god and family values.
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I think that Sanders IS going to be attacked by the wokes, and especially by Kamala Harris, who is definitely going to exploit her own identity in the primaries. But in the long run, when it'll come to the race for the presidency, that's going to be toned down to a degree.
Anyway, no matter who's the Democratic candidate, Trump is going to have to deal with a much stronger opposition than in 2016. The SocJus stuff is unlikely to hurt the Democrats too much if they're running against Trump, especially if they tone down the "wypipo suck" part and focus it on Trump's words and actions (which will happen). Trump is actually a good lighting rod for the SocJus concerns.
Anyway, no matter who's the Democratic candidate, Trump is going to have to deal with a much stronger opposition than in 2016. The SocJus stuff is unlikely to hurt the Democrats too much if they're running against Trump, especially if they tone down the "wypipo suck" part and focus it on Trump's words and actions (which will happen). Trump is actually a good lighting rod for the SocJus concerns.
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Huh, another terrorist. Those fucking libs...oops, white nationalists. Read the thread and enjoy!
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Lobbying isn't unusual. Asking the US govt to do it on behalf of a sitting president is unusual. And the prize for what, exactly? Getting played by Kim Jong-Un? North Korea has in no way disarmed, they've a masterminded a campaign that makes them get what they want for flattering Trump. All PR, smoke and mirrors.Brive1987 wrote: ↑Perhaps. But what’s that to do with Trump following apparent SOP for Nobel prizes?CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Ah, the blithe dismissal "orange man bad." But you see, the problem is, Orange Man IS Bad! A narcissist, egomaniac and criminal. Facing more legal troubles than Nixon, having actually accomplished very little for the average Republican voter, and just generally being a turd of a human being. He embodies the politics of hate, wherein people hate the Democrats/liberals so much they go all TDS, just pro. They excuse every tweet, every violation of political norms, the emoluments clause, the nepotism, the election felonies, the philandering and the countless lies so they can "own the libs." Not a terribly great long-term strategy.Brive1987 wrote: ↑I’m questioning the concept of “normal” as clearly winning a gong for what you might do is nonsensical.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑What are you talking about? His Nobel was quite different. No foreign govt pressured to nominate him.Brive1987 wrote: ↑Neither was Obama’s award for being black.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ https..://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1097281800362172417
You know, that's not normal.
In any case, according to one of the committee lobbying by countries (and harnessing support) is a common but fraught activity.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/sec ... ious-prizeNP Do countries lobby for their Nobel contenders?
GL Most of the lobbying is of an innocent nature. They try to collect as many signatures of support for the candidate as possible. But if you know anything about Norwegian mentality, lobbying a Norwegian quickly becomes counterproductive.
Do you research any of your comments or is it just “orange man bad”?
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Now that's funny.
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Trump bragging about getting the nomination after they lobbied for it is new typical. I assume that japan getting tariffs lifted from steel imports while Canada and Mexico are stuck with them is reward for Abe stroking the ego of this mental case.
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I assume you meant “Japanese”. Regardless, I will defer to your inside knowledge of what consistites normal innocent country level lobbying.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ Lobbying isn't unusual. Asking the US govt to do it on behalf of a sitting president is unusual. And the prize for what, exactly? Getting played by Kim Jong-Un? North Korea has in no way disarmed, they've a masterminded a campaign that makes them get what they want for flattering Trump. All PR, smoke and mirrors.
I’d give Trumpie a gong for stopping Hillary from bombing Libya North Korea.
And yeah. The current normalisation process must be a coincidence to Trumps input. Just like the annoyingly persistent Obama-economy.
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I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it. Maybe there is a group we could join?free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ Trump bragging about getting the nomination after they lobbied for it is new typical. I assume that japan getting tariffs lifted from steel imports while Canada and Mexico are stuck with them is reward for Abe stroking the ego of this mental case.
What the Nobel theatre did do was cast a spotlight on Obama’s fraud and the corresponding hypocrisy of denying the gong to the bringer of world peace - because he was orange.
Objective met.
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The assumption the Clinton was planning on an armageddon in Korea is strictly right wing fearmongering. Or I suppose you'll provide some proof?Brive1987 wrote: ↑I assume you meant “Japanese”. Regardless, I will defer to your inside knowledge of what consistites normal innocent country level lobbying.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ Lobbying isn't unusual. Asking the US govt to do it on behalf of a sitting president is unusual. And the prize for what, exactly? Getting played by Kim Jong-Un? North Korea has in no way disarmed, they've a masterminded a campaign that makes them get what they want for flattering Trump. All PR, smoke and mirrors.
I’d give Trumpie a gong for stopping Hillary from bombing Libya North Korea.
And yeah. The current normalisation process must be a coincidence to Trumps input. Just like the annoyingly persistent Obama-economy.
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Oh, those wacky MAGA folks. Although, to be fair, I haven't checked the definitive site of Infowars to see if this was a false flag operation like they claimed for the MAGA bomber. Or did they actually apologize and retract for that? Or just memory-hole the unpleasant narrative?
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I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it. Maybe there is a group we could join?Brive1987 wrote: ↑free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ Trump bragging about getting the nomination after they lobbied for it is new typical. I assume that japan getting tariffs lifted from steel imports while Canada and Mexico are stuck with them is reward for Abe stroking the ego of this mental case.
I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it. Maybe there is a group we could join?
What the Nobel theatre did do was cast a spotlight on Obama’s fraud and the corresponding hypocrisy of denying the gong to the bringer of world peace - because he was orange.
Objective met.
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Well it’s a balance of probability thing. Much like the assumptions underpinning BO’s award. I guess track record is all you have to go on .....CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑The assumption the Clinton was planning on an armageddon in Korea is strictly right wing fearmongering. Or I suppose you'll provide some proof?Brive1987 wrote: ↑I assume you meant “Japanese”. Regardless, I will defer to your inside knowledge of what consistites normal innocent country level lobbying.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ Lobbying isn't unusual. Asking the US govt to do it on behalf of a sitting president is unusual. And the prize for what, exactly? Getting played by Kim Jong-Un? North Korea has in no way disarmed, they've a masterminded a campaign that makes them get what they want for flattering Trump. All PR, smoke and mirrors.
I’d give Trumpie a gong for stopping Hillary from bombing Libya North Korea.
And yeah. The current normalisation process must be a coincidence to Trumps input. Just like the annoyingly persistent Obama-economy.
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Damn autocorrect.
You assume Trump is a stealth reptilian? And then deal with it? Are you drunk Brive?
I'm not much for groups like AA or Planned Parenthood or other ones for that matter. The pit is about as much of a club I've joined.
As for "objective met". Do you measure human progress as some kind of immature "liberal pwning" and triggering?
This is really a awkward recycling of gamesmanship theory only even more vapid when using the internet to magnify the petty message.
You assume Trump is a stealth reptilian? And then deal with it? Are you drunk Brive?
I'm not much for groups like AA or Planned Parenthood or other ones for that matter. The pit is about as much of a club I've joined.
As for "objective met". Do you measure human progress as some kind of immature "liberal pwning" and triggering?
This is really a awkward recycling of gamesmanship theory only even more vapid when using the internet to magnify the petty message.
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Where left liberal five thirty eight discuss the wonderful lurch to the left, 30mins of intersectional social justice and how Bernie is stuffed because all he has is dime a dozen free stuff - but he isn’t a black woman.
FTB writ large.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/po ... omination/
FTB writ large.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/po ... omination/
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You assumed an argument. I was making the point that “assume” makes an ass out of u and me.free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ Damn autocorrect.
You assume Trump is a stealth reptilian? And then deal with it? Are you drunk Brive?
I'm not much for groups like AA or Planned Parenthood or other ones for that matter. The pit is about as much of a club I've joined.
As for "objective met". Do you measure human progress as some kind of immature "liberal pwning" and triggering?
This is really a awkward recycling of gamesmanship theory only even more vapid when using the internet to magnify the petty message.
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Trump progressed Korean detente. It should be, but won’t be, widely recognised. This speaks volumes.
The clash of ideas and ideology requires framing and contrast. Be it via manifesto or meme.As for "objective met". Do you measure human progress as some kind of immature "liberal pwning" and triggering?
This is really a awkward recycling of gamesmanship theory only even more vapid when using the internet to magnify the petty message.
Trump progressed Korean detente. It should be, but won’t be, widely recognised. This speaks volumes.
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Which wars did she engineer? She got righteous shit for going along with the Bush ventures. Goddamn weak sauce.Brive1987 wrote: ↑Well it’s a balance of probability thing. Much like the assumptions underpinning BO’s award. I guess track record is all you have to go on .....CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑The assumption the Clinton was planning on an armageddon in Korea is strictly right wing fearmongering. Or I suppose you'll provide some proof?Brive1987 wrote: ↑I assume you meant “Japanese”. Regardless, I will defer to your inside knowledge of what consistites normal innocent country level lobbying.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ Lobbying isn't unusual. Asking the US govt to do it on behalf of a sitting president is unusual. And the prize for what, exactly? Getting played by Kim Jong-Un? North Korea has in no way disarmed, they've a masterminded a campaign that makes them get what they want for flattering Trump. All PR, smoke and mirrors.
I’d give Trumpie a gong for stopping Hillary from bombing Libya North Korea.
And yeah. The current normalisation process must be a coincidence to Trumps input. Just like the annoyingly persistent Obama-economy.
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Let's address this right-wing violence. Twitter and MAGA heads everywhere are going nuts over Smollett, but a plan to assassinate left politicians and pundits gets quietly swept under the table. TDS writ large over all, but let's get distracted by a B-List factor looking for attention. Squirrel!
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What fraud, exactly? I admit he's a bit of a disappointment in a few respects, but becoming the first African-American POTUS is an achievement. And stating Trump is a bringer of world peace is so ludicrous as to make me wonder about you. He's being played by Putin, which can backfire spectacularly. He threatens Venezuela and Iran regularly, and when he finds out Kim and Putin "I don't care, I believe Putin" was lying, may react as a typical narcissist reacts. Poorly.Brive1987 wrote: ↑I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it. Maybe there is a group we could join?free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ Trump bragging about getting the nomination after they lobbied for it is new typical. I assume that japan getting tariffs lifted from steel imports while Canada and Mexico are stuck with them is reward for Abe stroking the ego of this mental case.
What the Nobel theatre did do was cast a spotlight on Obama’s fraud and the corresponding hypocrisy of denying the gong to the bringer of world peace - because he was orange.
Objective met.
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So we aren’t going to address five thirty eight / Democrats turning into mini-horde? Or the Virginia debacle? Or the real Smollett / Covington story which is the media collusion behind SJ identity politics?CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ five thirty eight
Ok.
Who was this terrorist dude and how is he different to your standard sovereign citizen bozo? And what broader trend is he illustrating? Maga-bomber? I’m sure this is the very most important story in the land.
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This story, encapsulated in this tweet, is about CNN and fake-agenda news.
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... ist-democ/Brive1987 wrote: ↑So we aren’t going to address five thirty eight / Democrats turning into mini-horde? Or the Virginia debacle? Or the real Smollett / Covington story which is the media collusion behind SJ identity politics?CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ five thirty eight
Ok.
Who was this terrorist dude and how is he different to your standard sovereign citizen bozo? And what broader trend is he illustrating? Maga-bomber? I’m sure this is the very most important story in the land.
He planned a hit on prominent Democrats and pundits. It is a big story, And do you not remember the MAGA bomber?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/October ... g_attempts
Or another MAGA?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsbu ... e_shooting
Or you'd rather look at an actor seeking attention. MAGA indeed. The Virginia debacle and 538 are right wing distractions and idiot purity tests. Both of which are fully illustrated by the right.
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Did you actually listen to this podcast? The one I heard was an analysis of what advantages and disadvantages Sanders has with Democratic primary voters. Having that analysis without discussing demographics and identity would be assinine, particularly when Clinton smoked Sanders with Black voters, who are a significant Democratic constituency. I must have missed the point where Silver et al. expressed opinions on whether the Democratic party's leftward shift is good, or whether identity voting should be a significant factor in the Democratic primary. Maybe you need to look up the is/ought problem, if you don't understand what I'm on about. The fact that fivethirtyeight explores political considerations that demonstrably exist in the Democratic party doesn't mean they are endorsing them. They do this with republicans as well.Brive1987 wrote: ↑ Where left liberal five thirty eight discuss the wonderful lurch to the left, 30mins of intersectional social justice and how Bernie is stuffed because all he has is dime a dozen free stuff - but he isn’t a black woman.
FTB writ large.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/po ... omination/
On that note, here is another ideological blowhard denouncing 538 for doing statistical modeling, instead of peddling the correct virtue signals:
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... -it-again/PZ Myers wrote:Also, I’m more than a little tired of anything to do with Nate Silver, who is the political equivalent of a horse racing tout. Don’t care. Shut up about polls, tell me more about policy.
So you can see who else shares your inability to understand any political reasoning that isn't explicitly value driven.
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Myers is really a whining moron. There are countless people discussing policy, and he gets pissy at Silver, who runs a website about polling, for talking about polling.Old_ones wrote: ↑On that note, here is another ideological blowhard denouncing 538 for doing statistical modeling, instead of peddling the correct virtue signals:
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... -it-again/PZ Myers wrote:Also, I’m more than a little tired of anything to do with Nate Silver, who is the political equivalent of a horse racing tout. Don’t care. Shut up about polls, tell me more about policy.
So you can see who else shares your inability to understand any political reasoning that isn't explicitly value driven.
He's the kind of guy who goes at a Chinese restaurant and gets made that they don't sell cheeseburgers.
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Surprisingly I listen to them on a regular basis. I even manage to (usually) keep my lunch down listening to the asinine Pod Save America. Which probably makes me the most roundly informed person in the room,when it comes to polar viewpoints.Old_ones wrote: ↑Did you actually listen to this podcast? The one I heard was an analysis of what advantages and disadvantages Sanders has with Democratic primary voters. Having that analysis without discussing demographics and identity would be assinine, particularly when Clinton smoked Sanders with Black voters, who are a significant Democratic constituency. I must have missed the point where Silver et al. expressed opinions on whether the Democratic party's leftward shift is good, or whether identity voting should be a significant factor in the Democratic primary. Maybe you need to look up the is/ought problem, if you don't understand what I'm on about. The fact that fivethirtyeight explores political considerations that demonstrably exist in the Democratic party doesn't mean they are endorsing them. They do this with republicans as well.Brive1987 wrote: ↑ Where left liberal five thirty eight discuss the wonderful lurch to the left, 30mins of intersectional social justice and how Bernie is stuffed because all he has is dime a dozen free stuff - but he isn’t a black woman.
FTB writ large.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/po ... omination/
On that note, here is another ideological blowhard denouncing 538 for doing statistical modeling, instead of peddling the correct virtue signals:
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... -it-again/PZ Myers wrote:Also, I’m more than a little tired of anything to do with Nate Silver, who is the political equivalent of a horse racing tout. Don’t care. Shut up about polls, tell me more about policy.
So you can see who else shares your inability to understand any political reasoning that isn't explicitly value driven.
538 are unabashedly partisan Democrat. I mean really. Jody, Julia. Gallen and Micah :lol:
They may not wear their progressive values on their sleeves as aggressively as Pod Cast America. But my point was, as they pointed out:
+ there is a definite left lurch.
+ the socialist trend was rolling pre 2016 but had a major injection of momentum from Bernie
+ there is huge Dem alignment to minority and gender specific support bases
+ for 2020, intersectional identity politics will deliniate the otherwise vanilla left economic field
+ consequently Bernie is pretty much screwed.
+ Bernie’s only hope is to turn his 15% (or was it 30%? They kept changing) support into a Trump like catalyst.
+ they didn’t sound confident They weren’t exactly in mourning either.
+ PZ would have felt at home. Very little mention of poles. It was all SJ approved topics of identity.
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In general, there is a very comfortable focus on race/gender on left centric podcasts like TYT, 538 et al. It is often far more explicitly stated than on the dreaded right commentaries like Wife with a Purpose. Being pro oppressed minority does not incur the same opprobrium as that garnered by supporters of traditional European society.
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Poles :lol: polls.
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I don't agree that the Right-wing nut job Coast Guard guy is being swept away. It was the second lead story yesterday on Fox's Special Report. They showed the number of guns the guy had, and explained about his notes about who he would target.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ Let's address this right-wing violence. Twitter and MAGA heads everywhere are going nuts over Smollett, but a plan to assassinate left politicians and pundits gets quietly swept under the table. TDS writ large over all, but let's get distracted by a B-List factor looking for attention. Squirrel!
People know that there are nut jobs out there and this is the latest one. While this is a story about a horrible person, people have come to expect to find a wack-job like this every once in a while. To me, the real story on this Coast Guard guy would be to find out how the caught the guy before he hurt anyone. Good policing for the win! So, while this is a terrible man, few people are really surprised by this story.
The biggest reason, IMHO, the Smollett story is getting so much attention is that it is very unusual. The ego of Smollett is almost staggering. Go back and watch his interview. Wow. The other interesting thing is how fucking stupid the Nigerian brothers are. I laughed for a good solid minute when I heard the cops were able to find the magazines in their apartment that had the letters cut out of them. So... haha... they sent a fake threatening letter... and used magazine letters to make it untraceable... and... they didn't destroy the magazines. They just left them in their apartment. Haha.... what idiots. Cosmic level stupidity.... really.
The other reason the story is interesting is how the left is not condemning Smollett. They should be just as angry as the right... actually... they "should" be more angry with him. But, all the lefty people can say is something like "Well... okay... it didn't really happen....BUT... it COULD have happened." Pathetic.
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No, you just made an ass out of yourself by spouting nonsense and then claiming you achieved something.Brive1987 wrote: ↑You assumed an argument. I was making the point that “assume” makes an ass out of u and me.free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ Damn autocorrect.
You assume Trump is a stealth reptilian? And then deal with it? Are you drunk Brive?
I'm not much for groups like AA or Planned Parenthood or other ones for that matter. The pit is about as much of a club I've joined.
As for "objective met". Do you measure human progress as some kind of immature "liberal pwning" and triggering?
This is really a awkward recycling of gamesmanship theory only even more vapid when using the internet to magnify the petty message.
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free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑No, you just made an ass out of yourself by spouting nonsense and then claiming you achieved something.Brive1987 wrote: ↑You assumed an argument. I was making the point that “assume” makes an ass out of u and me.free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ Damn autocorrect.
You assume Trump is a stealth reptilian? And then deal with it? Are you drunk Brive?
I'm not much for groups like AA or Planned Parenthood or other ones for that matter. The pit is about as much of a club I've joined.
As for "objective met". Do you measure human progress as some kind of immature "liberal pwning" and triggering?
This is really a awkward recycling of gamesmanship theory only even more vapid when using the internet to magnify the petty message.
It’s really not hard to go back to the root post.
Brive1987 wrote: ↑I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it. Maybe there is a group we could join?free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ Trump bragging about getting the nomination after they lobbied for it is new typical. I assume that japan getting tariffs lifted from steel imports while Canada and Mexico are stuck with them is reward for Abe stroking the ego of this mental case.
What the Nobel theatre did do was cast a spotlight on Obama’s fraud and the corresponding hypocrisy of denying the gong to the bringer of world peace - because he was orange.
Objective met.
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That sentence doesn't make any sense. What does "and then deal with it" have to do with your purported assumption that Trump is a reptilian? Word salad worthy of a Sarah Palin brainfart. :roll:I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it.
Obama getting the Nobel when he didn't deserve it doesn't negate the sleazy classless act of Trump lobbying Abe for the nomination and then bragging about getting it. Bringing it up is just BS whataboutism that attempts to deflect the point.
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A lot of the left is condemning Smollett. A lot of us never bought into it in the first place. They're certainly not sweeping Smollet's apparent guilt under the rug, even in the liberal press.John D wrote: ↑I don't agree that the Right-wing nut job Coast Guard guy is being swept away. It was the second lead story yesterday on Fox's Special Report. They showed the number of guns the guy had, and explained about his notes about who he would target.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ Let's address this right-wing violence. Twitter and MAGA heads everywhere are going nuts over Smollett, but a plan to assassinate left politicians and pundits gets quietly swept under the table. TDS writ large over all, but let's get distracted by a B-List factor looking for attention. Squirrel!
People know that there are nut jobs out there and this is the latest one. While this is a story about a horrible person, people have come to expect to find a wack-job like this every once in a while. To me, the real story on this Coast Guard guy would be to find out how the caught the guy before he hurt anyone. Good policing for the win! So, while this is a terrible man, few people are really surprised by this story.
The biggest reason, IMHO, the Smollett story is getting so much attention is that it is very unusual. The ego of Smollett is almost staggering. Go back and watch his interview. Wow. The other interesting thing is how fucking stupid the Nigerian brothers are. I laughed for a good solid minute when I heard the cops were able to find the magazines in their apartment that had the letters cut out of them. So... haha... they sent a fake threatening letter... and used magazine letters to make it untraceable... and... they didn't destroy the magazines. They just left them in their apartment. Haha.... what idiots. Cosmic level stupidity.... really.
The other reason the story is interesting is how the left is not condemning Smollett. They should be just as angry as the right... actually... they "should" be more angry with him. But, all the lefty people can say is something like "Well... okay... it didn't really happen....BUT... it COULD have happened." Pathetic.
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We have rolling goal posts.
Glad you now accept there was a flow from your comment to mine, even if you didn’t appreciate the point.
Assuming Trump is reptilian illustrates the inherent absurdity of assuming whatever you want without hard evidence.
My suggesting I need strategies to deal with that absurdity (‘deal with it’, help groups) again underlines the risks of fantasy.
Re ‘what about’- CFB brought up the concept of normality around the Nobel process to give the orange man a jab. It’s relevant to point out there is significant dysfunction and (usually publicised) cheap lobbying built into the system.
Hope this straightens things out for you.
Glad you now accept there was a flow from your comment to mine, even if you didn’t appreciate the point.
Assuming Trump is reptilian illustrates the inherent absurdity of assuming whatever you want without hard evidence.
My suggesting I need strategies to deal with that absurdity (‘deal with it’, help groups) again underlines the risks of fantasy.
Re ‘what about’- CFB brought up the concept of normality around the Nobel process to give the orange man a jab. It’s relevant to point out there is significant dysfunction and (usually publicised) cheap lobbying built into the system.
Hope this straightens things out for you.
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The left appear to be latching onto the money motive as the thing to criticise - not the cheap anti white anti Trump identity victim politics. Because the new-left know and value oppression more than they value truth which distracts from this worldview.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ A lot of the left is condemning Smollett. A lot of us never bought into it in the first place. They're certainly not sweeping Smollet's apparent guilt under the rug, even in the liberal press.
It’s very fair to say that the MSM bought into the narrative immediately and enthusiastically. Which is an important litmus test of their credibility. The fact the current crop of Demo-nominees also jumped into the wagon should sound huge alarm bells. Far worse than Trump’s comment that there were bad faith actors on both sides of the civil war statue protests.
It’s also fair to say that the common Smollett walk back was along the “let’s wait and see” line, hardly offsetting the initial vibe of “modern day lynching”.