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Kirbmarc wrote: ↑Disagreeing with your lt-right shtick means that someone is "totalitarian". Or maybe it's long posts with reference to evidence? That's what totalitarian means, according to you?
This is irony. Probably unintentional. Look, I get where you're coming from, but you're just as prone to the "everyone who disagrees with me is bad" trope.
Calling long posts with references and arguments "totalitarian" is quite a bit insane. Virtual gulags, oh my.
It's not that I think that ALL the identitarian/alt-right/alt-"lite" fans are MORALLY bad. I understand the fear of reactionary islam, the concerns for the inactions of an apathetic government, the concerns about problems of integration.
The thing that I really, really don't see as rational is the apocalyptic mindset, the idea of incoming doom, of the "death of Europe" of the "Great Replacement" .
It's probably a powerful emotional thing, tribalism and whatnot. But it's just not rational to believe that skin color and ethnicity are the measure of all things, or that changes in ethnicity in some country mean certain doom ("death", "suicide", "genocide", etc).
There's no reasonable solution from this approach. You can't "go back" to the past. You can't "completely stop" or even "reverse" immigration. Not peacefully or without installing a dictatorship anyway.
You CAN regulate it, control it (even though it has its costs) but the idea that you can reverse the process peacefully is a pie-in-the-sky dream, and associating with those who preach this "white identity" thing, even if your ideas are less extreme, is political poison at best, outright working to break down the system at worst.
It's similar to how the radical feminists spin the fact that men commit more murders than women pro capita than men as evidence of "Patriarchy" and then try to blame video games or flirting for that.
It's emotionally appealing, I get it, but just not a rational strategy IF you care about sanity and the socio-economic/political system as we know it.
If, of course, you don't give a shit about individual rights, or liberal democratic principles, and would prefer a femminist communist utopia, or a fascist ethnostate, than it's another thing.
But then you don't really get to call your critics "totalitarian" for long posts where they disagree when you're supporting ideas which are pretty close to totalitarian ideas yourself.
And yes, IF you want these things,(which I DON'T think even most SocJus fans or alt-whatever fans REALLY want) you're pretty bad.