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Post by Driftless » Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:44 am

I am not left handed:


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Post by Tigzy » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:04 am

SM1957 wrote: So you are now blaming Tommy Robinson for stuff other people did while he was in jail - namely the police being incompetent, and unable to stop a child rapist disappearing.
Hmmm...

So you are now blaming Anjem Choudary for stuff other people did while he was in jail - namely the authorities being incompetent, and unable to stop his followers from joining ISIS?

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Post by SM1957 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:08 am

Tigzy wrote:
SM1957 wrote: So you are now blaming Tommy Robinson for stuff other people did while he was in jail - namely the police being incompetent, and unable to stop a child rapist disappearing.
Hmmm...

So you are now blaming Anjem Choudary for stuff other people did while he was in jail - namely the authorities being incompetent, and unable to stop his followers from joining ISIS?
The UK political system holds Anjem Choudary totally innocent for anything which happened while he was in jail, and now he gets 2 million a year in police protection.

And you claim Tommy Robinson should get the same treatment as Anjem Choudary....

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Post by Tigzy » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:20 am

SM1957 wrote: The UK political system holds Anjem Choudary totally innocent for anything which happened while he was in jail
That may or may not be so. The point is, do you hold Choudary totally innocent for anything which happened while he was in jail, as you appear to do with Tommy Robinson?

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:48 am

Yeah, I brought that up at WEIT, and got mobbed by the local SJWs for pushing a 'birther' style rightwing conspiracy theory.

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Post by Bhurzum » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:04 am

Driftless wrote: I am not left handed:
But can you wield the mighty weapon known as...the wobbly sausage?



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Post by screwtape » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:30 am

free thoughtpolice wrote: Get thee gone transphobe!
http://archive.is/XXMA8
I tried pretty hard to make an account through a VPN in order to post this:
Good Lord (as an atheist), don't you have your priorities mixed up? Is advancing the atheist cause less important than who can use which restroom? The latter may be important, but is it not of lesser importance than overcoming the nonsense imposed on our societies by religion? I wouldn't want to see the anti-religionist cause devolve into micro-doctrinal squabbles and thus lose sight of it's proper ends. That has happened to too many revolutionary movements, and allowed counter-revolutionary elements to defeat us. I can recommend some of Lenin's thoughts on this if you are unsure.
but it seems that new accounts can post nothing until the tentacled prick authorises them.


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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:02 am

screwtape wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Get thee gone transphobe!
http://archive.is/XXMA8
I tried pretty hard to make an account through a VPN in order to post this:
Good Lord (as an atheist), don't you have your priorities mixed up? Is advancing the atheist cause less important than who can use which restroom? The latter may be important, but is it not of lesser importance than overcoming the nonsense imposed on our societies by religion? I wouldn't want to see the anti-religionist cause devolve into micro-doctrinal squabbles and thus lose sight of it's proper ends. That has happened to too many revolutionary movements, and allowed counter-revolutionary elements to defeat us. I can recommend some of Lenin's thoughts on this if you are unsure.
but it seems that new accounts can post nothing until the tentacled prick authorises them.
Does your pre-emptive putative comment reflect your actual position? Or is it ground merely held temporarily for effect (and customised for it's intended audience)?

It could in a certain light make you sound like a sarcastic bastard, or at least an insincere one.


It's already been established (under the 'Dear Muslima' directive) that all positions are of equal importance - even though some are more equal than others.

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Post by Bhurzum » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:02 am

Whilst it contains elements of shit-lordery, the latest Cunt Dunkular video is a salute, a genuine salute, to an American icon!



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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:33 pm

LMAO
IIRC, the brouhaha started with a post by Rationality Rules made shorty after RR appeared as a guest host on AXP. I believe the post concerned trans-women competing in the Olympics in women’s events. He was against that.
https://archive.is/WSYPF#selection-5765.0-5765.220

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:38 pm

Bhurzum wrote: Whilst it contains elements of shit-lordery, the latest Cunt Dunkular video is a salute, a genuine salute, to an American icon!
Well he's no Rolf Harris.

(As far as I know).

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Post by Hunt » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:37 pm

MarcusAu wrote:
screwtape wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Get thee gone transphobe!
http://archive.is/XXMA8
I tried pretty hard to make an account through a VPN in order to post this:
Good Lord (as an atheist), don't you have your priorities mixed up? Is advancing the atheist cause less important than who can use which restroom? The latter may be important, but is it not of lesser importance than overcoming the nonsense imposed on our societies by religion? I wouldn't want to see the anti-religionist cause devolve into micro-doctrinal squabbles and thus lose sight of it's proper ends. That has happened to too many revolutionary movements, and allowed counter-revolutionary elements to defeat us. I can recommend some of Lenin's thoughts on this if you are unsure.
but it seems that new accounts can post nothing until the tentacled prick authorises them.
Does your pre-emptive putative comment reflect your actual position? Or is it ground merely held temporarily for effect (and customised for it's intended audience)?

It could in a certain light make you sound like a sarcastic bastard, or at least an insincere one.


It's already been established (under the 'Dear Muslima' directive) that all positions are of equal importance - even though some are more equal than others.
I would have just said: "I will soon welcome the day when all women's sport are dominated by virile she-men."

Not sarcastic at all.

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:47 pm

Hunt wrote: I would have just said: "I will soon welcome the day when all women's sport are dominated by virile she-men."

Not sarcastic at all.
Women will probably have to work out for themselves if the introduction of women to women's sport will give an unfair advantage where women dominate women in these activities.

They can then act accordingly - perhaps even going as far as to ban women from women's sports.

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Post by Driftless » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:53 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: LMAO
IIRC, the brouhaha started with a post by Rationality Rules made shorty after RR appeared as a guest host on AXP. I believe the post concerned trans-women competing in the Olympics in women’s events. He was against that.
https://archive.is/WSYPF#selection-5765.0-5765.220
Every group must put trans rights above all else. That is why Atheism+, the Reason Rally, March for Science, etc. all ended up being about diversity, inclusion and trans rights.

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Post by CommanderTuvok » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:27 pm

It would be ironic if the ACA succumbed to anti-science wokeness on trans issues. Some of the Atheist Experience goons are already guilty of this (the women in particular).

It is extra delicious that they are not woke enough, however, for PZ.

FUCK those in the atheist/skeptic movements who throw their rationality, skepticism, and common sense under the bus, as soon as some new anti-science fad comes along. Really, FUCK 'em. The damage they have done to any potential skeptic movement can't be calculated.

Oh. PZ, if you are reading this - go and get a fresh dog turd, blowtorch it to get it to a creme brulee consistency, and then slurp the stuff down. Go on, you fucking piece of detrius.

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Post by screwtape » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:30 pm

MarcusAu wrote: Does your pre-emptive putative comment reflect your actual position? Or is it ground merely held temporarily for effect (and customised for it's intended audience)?
It could in a certain light make you sound like a sarcastic bastard, or at least an insincere one.
I would be delighted to have either adjective applied. You might want to check out the bastard part with my parents when you join them in the afterlife, though. I see my comment has still not appeared, so it must have been pre-emptively memory-holed. Wonderful how how PZ can tell in advance which of us and our thoughts must be suppressed for the greater good. If God were an asshole, he would be a pretty good simulacrum.
MarcusAu wrote: It's already been established (under the 'Dear Muslima' directive) that all positions are of equal importance - even though some are more equal than others.
In that case sarcastic and insincere are exactly the same and I shall still have no grounds for complaint in either case. But if all positions are equal, why was the Dawk made PNG for the Dear Muslima letter? Ah, I see. The some are more equal than others part. Yes. Equal if we agree, less than dirt if we do not. Got it.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:34 pm

Looks like I got banned from Heather Hastie's blog -- and called a racist in the process -- for observing that some stereotypes are accurate.

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Post by screwtape » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:43 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Looks like I got banned from Heather Hastie's blog -- and called a racist in the process -- for observing that some stereotypes are accurate.
Isn't that the exact point of stereotypes? That they represent the likely nature of the group so described? And that intelligent people understand that individuals are not necessarily like the stereotypical norm that describes the whole group?

More interestingly (sorry, Matt), who else finds Marie Henein utterly, ravishingly hot? I would. Wouldn't you?

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:34 pm

screwtape wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Looks like I got banned from Heather Hastie's blog -- and called a racist in the process -- for observing that some stereotypes are accurate.
Isn't that the exact point of stereotypes? That they represent the likely nature of the group so described? And that intelligent people understand that individuals are not necessarily like the stereotypical norm that describes the whole group?
Apparently not when it comes to blacks, that's verboten. But blacks are notoriously stingy tippers, for one. So if you're a waitress, are you gonna bust your butt for a four-top of blacks? That particular table might not fit the stereotype, but if you heed it table after table, night after night, you won't waste your time & energy.

I shouldn't have bothered with Hastie. She's always railing about how racist America is. She lives in New fucking Zealand and once saw IN THE HEAT OF THE NIGHT. Give me a fucking break.
More interestingly (sorry, Matt), who else finds Marie Henein utterly, ravishingly hot? I would. Wouldn't you?
I prefer Jussie Smollett's lawyer, Tina Glandian.

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Post by Keating » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:39 pm

It all fits together:


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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:01 am

screwtape wrote:
MarcusAu wrote: Does your pre-emptive putative comment reflect your actual position? Or is it ground merely held temporarily for effect (and customised for it's intended audience)?
It could in a certain light make you sound like a sarcastic bastard, or at least an insincere one.
I would be delighted to have either adjective applied. You might want to check out the bastard part with my parents when you join them in the afterlife, though. I see my comment has still not appeared, so it must have been pre-emptively memory-holed. Wonderful how how PZ can tell in advance which of us and our thoughts must be suppressed for the greater good. If God were an asshole, he would be a pretty good simulacrum.
MarcusAu wrote: It's already been established (under the 'Dear Muslima' directive) that all positions are of equal importance - even though some are more equal than others.
In that case sarcastic and insincere are exactly the same and I shall still have no grounds for complaint in either case. But if all positions are equal, why was the Dawk made PNG for the Dear Muslima letter? Ah, I see. The some are more equal than others part. Yes. Equal if we agree, less than dirt if we do not. Got it.
The 'could' gives me a bit a wiggle room. And the 'make you sound' was at worst tone policing. As to the afterlife - alternative arrangements may be in play so I may well not have the chance to meet up with the aforementioned antecedents.

In the end I find arguments in good faith easier to follow. Though obviously they are not necessary more effective than any other sort when dealing with PZ and those of his ilk.


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Post by Hunt » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:29 am

MarcusAu wrote: It's already been established (under the 'Dear Muslima' directive) that all positions are of equal importance - even though some are more equal than others.
That's not quite it. DM is that All Grievances are Equally Valid, with the caveat that they (of course) don't really think it anyway. (That could be said of most of their views. They're ready to jettison most anything when the opportunity arises to leverage something, anything, for power and influence. So trans grievance can be put on the front burner because they're the most vulnerable minority.) If DM were actually All Positions are Equally Important, then that would be an argument for Freeze Peach, and they're sure as hell not going to argue that.

Like most of the principles they come up with on the spur of the moment to satisfy some desire to quash discussion, Dear Muslima is as dumb as a box of rocks. (See, for instance, Intent isn't Magic.) They work around that by ignoring it, most of the time.

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Post by Old_ones » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:22 am

MarcusAu wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:36 am
Old_ones wrote: The whole platform was an awful idea to begin with, and it's been taken over by muppets
And just what exactly is your problem with muppets?
I used to date Miss Piggy. It didn't end well.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:04 am

Okay, I'm not banned at Heather Hastie's, I just got modded while being investigated for racism.

I'm still gunning though to get banned by that pretentious little twat, Heidi Mehta.

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/201 ... 4549047142

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:08 am

Old_ones wrote: I used to date Miss Piggy. It didn't end well.
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The writing was on the wall:


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Post by Old_ones » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:48 am

MarcusAu wrote: Here's 3 mins of Gavin McInnis feeling sorry for himself, or faking feeling sorry for himself, or something. (With self-identifying satirists it's sometimes hard to tell)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMh6Sh3Qwa8
I think the lesson here is that you don't go to war unless you are fully committed to fighting and possibly going down for your cause. I don't know what McInnis had in mind for the proud boys when he started them, but what he effectively did was to start a protest movement that rallies against feminism and promotes "western chauvinism". Its hard to imagine that he wouldn't expect pushback for that, and with the proud boys out holding rallies and scrapping with Antifa, it's easy for the media to find a place in the narrative for them. Interestingly, the proud boy ideology actually isn't all that extreme, it basically seems to be that western culture is awesome, that there is some value in traditional gender roles, and that anti-racism and feminism are extreme reactions to non-issues.



If he had limited himself to running his mouth, or being an agent provocateur he probably could have made it into the "intellectual dark web" circuit. The fact that he started something that looks like a gang (I don't want to get into semantics about whether it is or not) probably makes him a bit more radioactive.

IMO his big mistake was failing to embrace the proud boys and run with his creation. He was going to lose all his lefty friends and get character assassinated by the media the second he started that group, and quitting the proud boys was never going to help his case. Now he looks like a whiner who isn't committed to his own beliefs. Alternately, his mistake was creating the proud boys at all if he didn't want to go full, balls-to-the-wall culture warrior.

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Post by DW Adams » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:11 am

Also while looking around, found this:

https://voyagestothebottomofthesea.word ... slyme-pit/

He really seems to hate comcinc (or however its spelled).

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Post by Old_ones » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:13 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Old_ones wrote: I used to date Miss Piggy. It didn't end well.
:twatson:
The writing was on the wall:

Wow. That's a striking resemblance to Miss Piggy if I've ever seen one.

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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:24 am

DW Adams wrote: Also while looking around, found this:

https://voyagestothebottomofthesea.word ... slyme-pit/

He really seems to hate comcinc (or however its spelled).
from 2015...Glory Days...

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:26 am

Peez and Regreta get a mention at WEIT. Can't pass that up.

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... nt-1753423

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:27 am

Old_ones wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Old_ones wrote: I used to date Miss Piggy. It didn't end well.
:twatson:
The writing was on the wall:

Wow. That's a striking resemblance to Miss Piggy if I've ever seen one.
I'm sure Bhurzum would be happy to shove his hand up her muppet hole and make her sing.

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:28 am

MarcusAu wrote:
DW Adams wrote: Also while looking around, found this:

https://voyagestothebottomofthesea.word ... slyme-pit/

He really seems to hate comcinc (or however its spelled).
from 2015...Glory Days...
I can remember when this was nothing but trees...

https://ak1.picdn.net/shutterstock/vide ... humb/1.jpg

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:36 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: I'm sure Bhurzum would be happy to shove his hand up her muppet hole and make her sing.
Not for me, chef, it looks a bit too...well, y'know.

https://ballzbeatz.com/wp-content/uploa ... -Decal.jpg

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:38 am

Addendum to last: She's got a cracking set of pipes on her.

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Post by BoxNDox » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:26 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:04 am
Okay, I'm not banned at Heather Hastie's, I just got modded while being investigated for racism.

I'm still gunning though to get banned by that pretentious little twat, Heidi Mehta.

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/201 ... 4549047142
That's stupid even by Mehta's low standards. As a Jewish kid growing up in rural Oklahoma, going to Temple wasn't practical - the nearest one was ~30 miles away. However, my parents thought I needed to be exposed to some religion, so I went to the nearby Methodist church, which was (a) overtly evangelical, (b) very into the whole "God is love" deal, not to mention (c) Entirely welcoming to, albeit a bit puzzled by me.

This is not to say there weren't plenty of hateful Christians around. There were. For example, the (white) Southern Baptist church where my wife grew up wasn't exactly the loving sort. And on an individual level, my Christian Scientist third grade teacher was a particularly nasty piece of work who didn't hesitate to bring her religion into class. (And in doing so put me on the road to atheism.)

But by claiming that decent Christians don't and didn't exist, these fools are alienating a lot of people who aren't comfortable with Trump and with the right message could be persuaded not to vote for him.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:02 am

Heidi Mehta's outdone herself with this one:

Many Secular “Churches,” Once Part of a Growing Movement, Are Struggling
Still, it’s clear Sunday Assembly hasn’t solved the problem of how to recreate churches for people who don’t care for organized religion....
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Post by Driftless » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:29 am

So she wants to be the fifth squaddie. Sort of like trying to be the fifth horseman.

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Post by KiwiInOz » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:34 pm

Old_ones wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:36 am
Old_ones wrote: The whole platform was an awful idea to begin with, and it's been taken over by muppets
And just what exactly is your problem with muppets?
I used to date Miss Piggy. It didn't end well.

:twatson:
I heard that she was unwell. Apparently she had a frog in her throat.

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Post by John D » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:45 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Heidi Mehta's outdone herself with this one:

Many Secular “Churches,” Once Part of a Growing Movement, Are Struggling
Still, it’s clear Sunday Assembly hasn’t solved the problem of how to recreate churches for people who don’t care for organized religion....
:doh:
Ah Yes... my memories of Sunday Assembly coming back to me. I was very active in the Detroit Sunday assembly. I directed the music, held the band practices, hosted and ran the book club. But, the people who were self appointed leaders were SJW retards. They would spurn members who didn't have the correct way of thinking. They were Fem bot creeps. I tried to include everyone which was a wild mix of libertarian leaning atheists, and woo woo spiritualists, and religion haters, etc. The theme was that they were "radically inclusive" but what this turned into was "mega-progressives only". One guy was told to leave because he posted a picture of himself on Facebook in his father's US Army Ranger uniform. The bitches that "ran" thing were scared.... and I'm like... "He is proud of his father's service in the military" and they concluded that he was a threat. Haha.

I think we lacked wise leadership. I don't know where this wise leadership comes from. Ministers are trained in wise leadership.

But, really, when it is all done and said, secular groups simply lack cohesion. They have no sense of shared commitment. I went to a Catholic wedding last week. I have lots of Catholic friends. and... while they are all very different, they have a sense that their shared spirituality makes them part of a club... a cohesive family... a family with some foundational beliefs.

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KiwiInOz wrote: I heard that she was unwell. Apparently she had a frog in her throat.
Now we know what's turning the freakin' frogs gay

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Driftless wrote:
So she wants to be the fifth squaddie. Sort of like trying to be the fifth horseman.
That would be fantastic! Can you imagine Wu joining that group? How many weeks before her borderline personality disorder kicked in and she went nuts on them, calling them all transphobes because she thought one of them looked at her funny? I wished I lived in her district so I could vote for her.

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katamari Damassi wrote:
Driftless wrote:
So she wants to be the fifth squaddie. Sort of like trying to be the fifth horseman.
That would be fantastic! Can you imagine Wu joining that group? How many weeks before her borderline personality disorder kicked in and she went nuts on them, calling them all transphobes because she thought one of them looked at her funny? I wished I lived in her district so I could vote for her.
Imagine Wu and AOC having an argument, bugging eyes and all. It'd look like two fucking mutant lizards fighting over a piece of rotten apple.

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BoJo it is, then.

The wailing and gnashing of teeth on twitter is quite wonderful to behold.

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Nice one, Ivanova!

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:
Driftless wrote:
So she wants to be the fifth squaddie. Sort of like trying to be the fifth horseman.
That would be fantastic! Can you imagine Wu joining that group? How many weeks before her borderline personality disorder kicked in and she went nuts on them, calling them all transphobes because she thought one of them looked at her funny? I wished I lived in her district so I could vote for her.
Imagine Wu and AOC having an argument, bugging eyes and all. It'd look like two fucking mutant lizards fighting over a piece of rotten apple.
It is inevitable that Trump will insult here, just like he has insulted the other four. Imagine the news conference where she fires back.

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Post by Old_ones » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:15 am

John D wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Heidi Mehta's outdone herself with this one:

Many Secular “Churches,” Once Part of a Growing Movement, Are Struggling
Still, it’s clear Sunday Assembly hasn’t solved the problem of how to recreate churches for people who don’t care for organized religion....
:doh:
Ah Yes... my memories of Sunday Assembly coming back to me. I was very active in the Detroit Sunday assembly. I directed the music, held the band practices, hosted and ran the book club. But, the people who were self appointed leaders were SJW retards. They would spurn members who didn't have the correct way of thinking. They were Fem bot creeps. I tried to include everyone which was a wild mix of libertarian leaning atheists, and woo woo spiritualists, and religion haters, etc. The theme was that they were "radically inclusive" but what this turned into was "mega-progressives only". One guy was told to leave because he posted a picture of himself on Facebook in his father's US Army Ranger uniform. The bitches that "ran" thing were scared.... and I'm like... "He is proud of his father's service in the military" and they concluded that he was a threat. Haha.

I think we lacked wise leadership. I don't know where this wise leadership comes from. Ministers are trained in wise leadership.

But, really, when it is all done and said, secular groups simply lack cohesion. They have no sense of shared commitment. I went to a Catholic wedding last week. I have lots of Catholic friends. and... while they are all very different, they have a sense that their shared spirituality makes them part of a club... a cohesive family... a family with some foundational beliefs.
IMO this is probably the reason for Peezus's attemted redefinition of "atheism", and his screeds about "dictionary atheists". A lack of belief in god doesn't make a community, and doesn't imply any kind of shared values. I guess it's too bad for PZ that you can't force this kind of cohesion by engaging in bad philosophical arguments about what should logically follow from a lack of belief in God.

To your point about wise leadership, at least part of that has to be actual inclusivity. The SJWs are always on about how "inclusive" they are, but as you illustrated, they are hypervigilant about rooting out and excluding anyone with thoughtcrime against progressivism. Its ironic to me that a bunch of people like PZ, who are often very critical of Christianity, embody the holier-than-thou Christian stereotype so well. Nobody feels comfortable in a place where they have to walk on eggshells all the time, and no community is going to grow if you have to be perfect to join it.

I've never really tried attending this sort of Sunday meeting for secular people, because I was afraid it would basically be what you described. The closest thing I've found to that was when I started training BJJ around a year ago. You can train at the school I go to as long as you aren't a dick (by non-SJW standards) or a pussy (which keeps all the SJWs out). Some of the people I train with actually describe the place as their "church", I assume because of the community, and because it is where they go to turn their brains off. A lot of the guys I train with are religious (maybe even conservative) but they are still willing to accept a heathen like me.

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I don't know if this Andy Signore guy was an SJW male feminist before he got MeTooed, but this video gave me Richard Carrier flashbacks. The guy (who started Screen Junkies) was accused by a young nerd mistress in the wake of Harvey Weinstein. Signore releases all of the e-mails, texts and blurred nude pics the alleged victim sent him.

You know he's innocent because he's pouting in the thumbnail.


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Post by ThreeFlangedJavis » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:56 am

The white-shaming starting at around 2:00 is quite something. Note the embarrassing spanked puppy behaviour from the gimp. The interaction between entitled female activists and white "allies" looks just like Domme/submissive interaction to me. I think there is a lot of truth to the theory that intersectional rhetoric directed toward men is subconscious shit testing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cemq4SYYySo

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Post by MarcusAu » Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:07 am

Old_ones wrote: IMO this is probably the reason for Peezus's attemted redefinition of "atheism", and his screeds about "dictionary atheists". A lack of belief in god doesn't make a community, and doesn't imply any kind of shared values. I guess it's too bad for PZ that you can't force this kind of cohesion by engaging in bad philosophical arguments about what should logically follow from a lack of belief in God.

To your point about wise leadership, at least part of that has to be actual inclusivity. The SJWs are always on about how "inclusive" they are, but as you illustrated, they are hypervigilant about rooting out and excluding anyone with thoughtcrime against progressivism. Its ironic to me that a bunch of people like PZ, who are often very critical of Christianity, embody the holier-than-thou Christian stereotype so well. Nobody feels comfortable in a place where they have to walk on eggshells all the time, and no community is going to grow if you have to be perfect to join it.

I've never really tried attending this sort of Sunday meeting for secular people, because I was afraid it would basically be what you described. The closest thing I've found to that was when I started training BJJ around a year ago. You can train at the school I go to as long as you aren't a dick (by non-SJW standards) or a pussy (which keeps all the SJWs out). Some of the people I train with actually describe the place as their "church", I assume because of the community, and because it is where they go to turn their brains off. A lot of the guys I train with are religious (maybe even conservative) but they are still willing to accept a heathen like me.
As far as catholics go - most of them do not follow the doctrine or even pay much attention to what the clergy tell them to think. A large percentage of them are even progressive on issues like divorce or abortion (which they should find problematic if they were paying attention).

More of a defacto ortho-praxy than a doxy.

Amazing what can be done in an environment where people understand not to ask too many questions. (Or at least not ask the wrong sort of questions).

Ah well 'Do What Thou Wilt' as that Plymouth Brethren guy used to say. (Though he may have been lapsed).

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:39 am

Matthew Facciani also covers the 'dying atheist churches' story, but without the hysterics of Heidi Mehta or the foam-flecked ravings of her pharyngulite hordlings.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/according ... g-as-well/

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:40 am

MarcusAu wrote: More of a defacto ortho-praxy than a doxy.
Stealing that.

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Post by John D » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:11 am

A new theme park at Disney "Negroland"!


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Post by Service Dog » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:14 am

In a newly resurfaced video Tuesday, Rep. Rashida Tlaib was shown being kicked out of a 2016 Trump rally, uncovering a bizarre origin story to the current feud between the two.

Before she entered Congress over two years later, Ms. Tlaib heckled Mr. Trump during an August 2016 campaign stop at the Detroit Economic Club.

Ms. Tlaib was dragged out of the audience after she and other protestors started yelling to be a better role model for children and to “give back the Purple Heart, you didn’t earn it,” referencing a Virginia veteran who gave then-presidential candidate Mr. Trump the medal as a token of appreciation.

In the video, Ms. Tlaib screams “you guys are crazy” as she’s dragged out of the booing audience. An unidentified man shouts at her “You’re an animal! Get a job!”

Since that rally, Ms. Tlaib has gotten a job as a congressional representative for Michigan and has recently been embroiled in a feud with Mr. Trump.

The president referenced the video in a Tuesday speech calling her a “crazed lunatic” and “not a sane person.”

“I watched her this morning, she’s vicious. She’s like a crazed lunatic. She’s screaming, this is before she got into Congress. Who elected her? she’s screaming like a total lunatic at one of our rallies. It’s like, I’m giving a little rally, and she starts screaming and this is not a sane person folks,” he said.

Ms. Tlaib quipped about the video resurfacing Monday, tweeting: “Breaking News: The rightwing discovered this weekend that I’ve been fighting Trump’s assault on the Constitution since 2016.”
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