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Service Dog wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: ...Tim Pool is in an Asian first before an American and has his meth stash in his toque that he never takes off in public. /s
He hates America and that is why he hates the rule of law being applied to the malignant narcissist grifter.
Every time this bullshitter identifies as a liberal and pretends to be a crusader for truth you have to be gullible to not see what a liar he is, especially since Trump invited to the White House so he could kiss his ring.
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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:17 am
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What evidence do you have that Poole is not interested in truth?
He claims to look for truth in journalism yet only looks for bias or mistakes from the left. He doesn't seek or look for dishonesty from the right.
He is heavily biased but not only claims not to be but has also claimed to be a liberal. That is bullshit.
He not only won't admit his bias and also won't admit he is bald. And has a goofy looking hat.
Do you honestly want to stand by your statement that Tim Poole was ever an alt-right propagandist? As for his bias, he appears to be biased against lying media propagandists and disingenuous, dishonest sacks of shit like Schiff.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:17 am
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What evidence do you have that Poole is not interested in truth?
He claims to look for truth in journalism yet only looks for bias or mistakes from the left. He doesn't seek or look for dishonesty from the right.
He is heavily biased but not only claims not to be but has also claimed to be a liberal. That is bullshit.
He not only won't admit his bias and also won't admit he is bald. And has a goofy looking hat.
Do you honestly want to stand by your statement that Tim Poole was ever an alt-right propagandist? As for his bias, he appears to be biased against lying media propagandists and disingenuous, dishonest sacks of shit like Schiff.
Just look at his youtube channel and compare how many of his videos are critical of right wing media and politicians versus the ones attacking left and center.
I'll take Schiff's honesty against that of Trump and his gang of crackpots anyday. Are you going to tell me that Trump isn't a pathological liar?
I don't see Pool calling him out. Where is Pool's fact checking of Fox News, Brietbart, Alex Jones, and others. It is pretty much non existent.
https://www.youtube.com/user/Timcasts/videos
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Brive1987 wrote: We need a bitchute embed tag.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/yUE6FCfCnetl/
Anyone who doubts that demographics isn’t the most important issue of our day hasn’t listened to the recent 538 ‘Harris’ podcast. Play a drinking game every time race is discussed by the liberal dears. Bless em.

They get so incensed the opening primary states are “so fricken white”.

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freethoughtpolice is a commie. Discuss....

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Brive1987 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:11 pm
Brive1987 wrote: We need a bitchute embed tag.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/yUE6FCfCnetl/
Anyone who doubts that demographics isn’t the most important issue of our day hasn’t listened to the recent 538 ‘Harris’ podcast. Play a drinking game every time race is discussed by the liberal dears. Bless em.

They get so incensed the opening primary states are “so fricken white”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5k1LNLHxoc

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Oh, I doubt that freethoughtpolice is a commie. But talking of commies, I'm fascinated by how the magazine Living Marxism has transformed into Spiked. They continue to claim to be of the left, but can't seem to help themselves from defending free speech and democracy. Their podcasts keep on coming out on YouTube and seem to contain an inordinate amount of actual common sense. Take the latest one about the loony jihadi dickhead on London Bridge for example:



Listen to the whole thing and tell me they are in the wrong. In the meantime, I spent all day yesterday with the hematologist. I now have a 17p13 translocation in the tumour cells, with a median survival of seven months without treatment. Upshot is to try to get some ibrutinib paid for by a combination of my drug plan and the manufacturer's patient support program, and rely on it to keep me going until a good match is found for a bone marrow donor so that I might have a full-blown bone marrow transplant. What fun to live in such interesting times. 10% chance of dying during the process, and a 40% chance of "cure". Also an even chance of struggling with graft-versus-host-disease for the rest of my days whether it works or not. Joy!

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John D wrote: freethoughtpolice is a commie. Discuss....
I'm a successful capitalist rich white male and owned businesses and subcontracted most of my adult life unlike a lot of you wage slaves and corporate drones out there. Never went bankrupt, none of my businesses lost money and I only have had a small amount of debt for less than 2 years, unlike your Orangeutan hero. I pretty much retired more than 10 years ago in my fifties, own two semi waterfront houses free and clear, and had $225k dropped into my bank account on monday of this week.
I do believe in some "socialist" principles like single payer healthcare, public schools, community fire department government run police departments, military, ...
So guilty, I guess that makes me a commie. :lol:

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
John D wrote: freethoughtpolice is a commie. Discuss....
I'm a successful capitalist rich white male and owned businesses and subcontracted most of my adult life unlike a lot of you wage slaves and corporate drones out there. Never went bankrupt, none of my businesses lost money and I only have had a small amount of debt for less than 2 years, unlike your Orangeutan hero. I pretty much retired more than 10 years ago in my fifties, own two semi waterfront houses free and clear, and had $225k dropped into my bank account on monday of this week.
I do believe in some "socialist" principles like single payer healthcare, public schools, community fire department government run police departments, military, ...
So guilty, I guess that makes me a commie. :lol:
And yet you are still a commie... wow! That's dedication!

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John D wrote: freethoughtpolice is a commie. Discuss....
He's never posted about professional wrestling, that I can recall.

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Jury finds Elon Musk did not defame "pedo guy"
which kinda surprises me from what I read of the case.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50695593

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fuzzy wrote:
John D wrote: freethoughtpolice is a commie. Discuss....
He's never posted about professional wrestling, that I can recall.
I wanted to post this, which is kind of wrestling, but I didn't want to look too conservative :rimshot:

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Jimmy Dore is nearly as far left as you can get..... and so.... I watch his stuff so I get some balance. What I like about Dore is that he is interested in truth and pragmatism. Well.... here is his show on Professor Turly's testamony on impeachment. Turly nails this in my opinion.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: I'm a successful capitalist rich white male...<snip>
Satan!

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Brive1987 wrote:
I always thought that Herod's response was a little behind the times.

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'Heavens! shall I ever forget those boys! A perfect murrain of them infests Holland; they seem to have nothing in the world to do but throw stones and mud at foreign yachts.'

'They want a Herod, with some statesmanlike views on infanticide.'
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John D wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:50 am
Jimmy Dore is nearly as far left as you can get..... and so.... I watch his stuff so I get some balance. What I like about Dore is that he is interested in truth and pragmatism. Well.... here is his show on Professor Turly's testamony on impeachment. Turly nails this in my opinion.
I like watching Dore, sometimes, because he pokes a stick at the lying media and he's genuinely funny and not particularly mean spirited, unlike someone like Sam Seder. He's also a bit of a conspiracy theorist though, and is prone to believing BS artists of the Abby Martin kind. Dore is worth following because he will at least cover stories like the one about the chemical attack investigators sent to Syria who dispute the conclusions of the resulting report. The establishment media avoid that kind of thing like the plague, Tucker Carlsons aside. Dore will often highlight Tucker Carlson's reporting, just another sign that there is an anti-establishment movement which cuts across political party lines.

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Brive1987 wrote: They get so incensed the opening primary states are “so fricken white”.

If you went back in time & swapped Obama's primary-win in Iowa-- with a different state-- with more black voters-- then take your pick: Michigan went to Hillary over Obama, so did Florida, California, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, Texas.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:49 am
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:17 am
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What evidence do you have that Poole is not interested in truth?
He claims to look for truth in journalism yet only looks for bias or mistakes from the left. He doesn't seek or look for dishonesty from the right.
He is heavily biased but not only claims not to be but has also claimed to be a liberal. That is bullshit.
He not only won't admit his bias and also won't admit he is bald. And has a goofy looking hat.
Do you honestly want to stand by your statement that Tim Poole was ever an alt-right propagandist? As for his bias, he appears to be biased against lying media propagandists and disingenuous, dishonest sacks of shit like Schiff.
Just look at his youtube channel and compare how many of his videos are critical of right wing media and politicians versus the ones attacking left and center.
I'll take Schiff's honesty against that of Trump and his gang of crackpots anyday. Are you going to tell me that Trump isn't a pathological liar?
I don't see Pool calling him out. Where is Pool's fact checking of Fox News, Brietbart, Alex Jones, and others. It is pretty much non existent.
https://www.youtube.com/user/Timcasts/videos
Count them for yourself.
Being a liberal is not the same thing as being a Democrat supporter or an apologist for the behaviour of the establishment media. Pool has clearly stated that the Republicans will probably take their cue from Schiff when the tables turn. He is not playing the "Dems bad/Republicans good" game. If he were then you could accuse him of propagandising by selective reporting, but he isn't. If you don't like Trump and care about the US getting the policies you favour implemented then you should listen to what Tim Pool is telling you. He is essentially someone who has given up party allegiance and is shouting from the sidelines in frustration while the Democrats flail around in impotent rage and punch themselves in the face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2yh2Erf3Mg&t=607s

Schiff has lowered the bar for impeachment and the violation of privacy to the point of ridiculousness. What started as a flimsy excuse for an impeachment process has degenerated into an excuse for violating the privacy of communications of people they think there's a remote possibility might have said something incriminating. It has become a permanent inquisition. It was never about establishing truth. Schiff's process has heard unclassified evidence in an environment designed to protect classified evidence so that he can prevent Republicans from revealing testimony inconvenient to his kangaroo court. He has been very carefully controlling the narrative, with the aid of the main media channels, and preventing the appearance of rebuttal witnesses in order to create the impression of wrongdoing because he knows he doesn't have a case.

As for foreign collusion, Russia is an irritation for the US that creates roadblocks in the Middle East and throws the odd jealous tantrum like a hoodlum who wants "respect". China is an existential threat orders of magnitude greater. The Chinese are buying up governments and influence all over the place, expanding militarily, infiltrating industry and actively implementing a coherent strategy to control data networks. The CCP embodies an ideological evil in a way that Russia doesn't. They already have lots of leverage over key US industries and politicians. Trump is aware of the danger and he is trying to do something about it, but rather than recognise the danger and support him his detractors are acting out of self-interest. Uncle Joe and his buddies think that the Chinese aren't bad guys, as do a lot of the establishment, both left and right. If the Democrats don't wake up and stop screaming RUSSIA! then the US is in trouble.

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I had a reunion with my sister the other day and she brought up something from our childhood. In our hometown there used to be a party store called Balloons Galore, and every time we went by it I'd make the same joke, "That's Pussy Galore's sister." She thought it was lame, but I still think it's funny.

Saw the movie Dark Water and noticed something interesting in it. It's a based on a true story about Dupont lying about the safety of a chemical used in teflon-you'll want to get rid of your cookware, carpets, and furniture after seeing it. Tim Robbins-a lefty who has made a career of playing WASPy whitecollar scumbags-plays the head of a big-time law firm, so it seems like he's playing to type, but instead he totally supports his junior law partner who wants to take on Dupont on behalf of the hicks in WV who are being poisoned by the stuff. The scumbag lawyer who tries to get the firm to not take the case is a young black guy. I found this reversal surprising.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Schiff has lowered the bar for impeachment and the violation of privacy to the point of ridiculousness.
I agree. Schiff has lowered the bar ridiculously. It's not as if Trump lied about getting a blow job, he just with held military aid to an ally at war, until they dug some political dirt for him.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: The establishment media avoid that kind of thing like the plague, Tucker Carlsons aside. Dore will often highlight Tucker Carlson's reporting, just another sign that there is an anti-establishment movement which cuts across political party lines.
I got into a huge row this past week with my family, who accused me of 'joining the other side' for posting Tucker Carlson videos on FB [and for opining that the Dems are hurting themselves with impeachment). Finally, they calmed down enough to hear my point: that what Carlson is saying is resonating with a large segment of the electorate, particularly the Obama-to-Trump voters in the swing states that the Dems need to win over next year. The Dems, with their professions of identity politics in tandem with promotion of the interests of the globalist elite, are ceding the field of populism to the right. And Carlson goes against elitist Republicans as well. Just the other night, he attacked hedge funds, vulture capitalists, and the GOP politicians who coddle them:



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katamari Damassi wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Schiff has lowered the bar for impeachment and the violation of privacy to the point of ridiculousness.
I agree. Schiff has lowered the bar ridiculously. It's not as if Trump lied about getting a blow job, he just with held military aid to an ally at war, until they dug some political dirt for him.
My comment that Schiff was a complete idiot induced great fits of apoplexy at the kitchen table.

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To quote The Walrus: jew coup ka jew

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Lsuoma wrote:
'Heavens! shall I ever forget those boys! A perfect murrain of them infests Holland; they seem to have nothing in the world to do but throw stones and mud at foreign yachts.'

'They want a Herod, with some statesmanlike views on infanticide.'
The Riddle of the Sands - Erskine Childers, 1903
A wonderful book, and, surprisingly, not a dreadful movie, since it had the Logan's Run combo of Jenny Agutter and Michael York. I know, Michael York can't act, but he symbolises my youth and gets forgiven. Jenny, on the other hand, may or may not be able to act - I never bothered to check. I just love her anyway.

The book is at an intersection of historical novels, sailing novels and war novels. Should anyone want any recommendations for sailing yarns, I have a few shelves-full to talk about. I sold our sloop a few years back, but still hanker for the feeling of getting something for nothing as you learn to match mainsheet and tiller against each other. Sailing is entirely a matter of understanding trade-offs. Aerofoils and drag in a much coarser form than in aircraft design, but otherwise the same thing. Think of it as exactly the same calculations, except your lift device is in a very low viscosity medium, and nearly all your drag is in a high viscosity medium. Now add tides and rocks and you get it!

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Schiff has lowered the bar for impeachment and the violation of privacy to the point of ridiculousness.
I agree. Schiff has lowered the bar ridiculously. It's not as if Trump lied about getting a blow job, he just with held military aid to an ally at war, until they dug some political dirt for him.
My comment that Schiff was a complete idiot induced great fits of apoplexy at the kitchen table.
So.... um... Clinton lied UNDER OATH. This kind of activity is getting several people tossed in jail for perjury right now. This is a serious felony. The crime that Clinton committed was not getting a blow job.... it was trying to cover it up with perjury.

Trump did not hold military aid until he got dirt on Biden. He never got dirt on Biden.

My daughter has informed me that she cannot be my friend if I vote for Trump in 2020... no discussion. She will still have me in a relationship as a father but not as a "friend". She owes me $2000.... so is this debt as a father or as a friend? I wonder....

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screwtape wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
'Heavens! shall I ever forget those boys! A perfect murrain of them infests Holland; they seem to have nothing in the world to do but throw stones and mud at foreign yachts.'

'They want a Herod, with some statesmanlike views on infanticide.'
The Riddle of the Sands - Erskine Childers, 1903
A wonderful book, and, surprisingly, not a dreadful movie, since it had the Logan's Run combo of Jenny Agutter and Michael York. I know, Michael York can't act, but he symbolises my youth and gets forgiven. Jenny, on the other hand, may or may not be able to act - I never bothered to check. I just love her anyway.

The book is at an intersection of historical novels, sailing novels and war novels. Should anyone want any recommendations for sailing yarns, I have a few shelves-full to talk about. I sold our sloop a few years back, but still hanker for the feeling of getting something for nothing as you learn to match mainsheet and tiller against each other. Sailing is entirely a matter of understanding trade-offs. Aerofoils and drag in a much coarser form than in aircraft design, but otherwise the same thing. Think of it as exactly the same calculations, except your lift device is in a very low viscosity medium, and nearly all your drag is in a high viscosity medium. Now add tides and rocks and you get it!

I learnt on a Merlin Rocket, went on to a Graduate, and then a British Moth. Last boat was a MacGregor 26.
I learned on a Mirror, then sailed National 12s. After that I graduated to larger wessels, and crewed for subsistence for on and offshore racers. My favourite boat I ever worked was the Arethusa (see the last line of this paragraph). I actually take issue with the designation of a ketch, since I am almost 100% certain she was a yawl, where the steering post goes down in front of the mizzen, rather than behind. In fact, having done some more research, it looks like the ketch is now Faramir, and the yawl seems to have dropped from history. sailed on her about ten times in the mid '70s.

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BTW, what I'd REALLY like, and may buy if I can find a good one when I retire (2-3 years) is a Dragon.

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In case you were wondering how corrupt the dems are.


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Moar info on trump

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Moar wrestling content:

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moar wrasslin' :drool:

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katamari Damassi wrote: I had a reunion with my sister the other day and she brought up something from our childhood. In our hometown there used to be a party store called Balloons Galore, and every time we went by it I'd make the same joke, "That's Pussy Galore's sister." She thought it was lame, but I still think it's funny.

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I find it funny too. But that's just me, and no indication of how objectively funny it actually is.

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I had some passing experience with an Optimist, but never really identified as a Swallow or an Amazon.

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MarcusAu wrote: I had some passing experience with an Optimist, but never really identified as a Swallow or an Amazon.
Pict or Martyr?

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Clinton should have been impeached for bombing the pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan as a distraction.
Bush should have been impeached for normalising torture.
Obama should have been impeached for executing an American citizen without trial.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
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To quote The Walrus: jew coup ka jew
Padtor's nose has a bit of a hook to it. Just saying.

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katamari Damassi wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:43 am
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Schiff has lowered the bar for impeachment and the violation of privacy to the point of ridiculousness.
I agree. Schiff has lowered the bar ridiculously. It's not as if Trump lied about getting a blow job, he just with held military aid to an ally at war, until they dug some political dirt for him.
It's just a pity they can't find anyone to actually testify to that. Schiff hopes he can bamboozle the public into thinking he's actually made a case but they don't seem to be buying it.

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MarcusAu wrote: I had some passing experience with an Optimist, but never really identified as a Swallow or an Amazon.
All I ever knew about parenting came from the telegram in S&W: "If not duffers, won't drown. If duffers, better drowned."

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Keating wrote: Clinton should have been impeached for bombing the pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan as a distraction.
Bush should have been impeached for normalising torture.
Obama should have been impeached for executing an American citizen without trial.
It's Okay When We Do it.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:

Being a liberal is not the same thing as being a Democrat supporter or an apologist for the behaviour of the establishment media. Pool has clearly stated that the Republicans will probably take their cue from Schiff when the tables turn. He is not playing the "Dems bad/Republicans good" game. If he were then you could accuse him of propagandising by selective reporting, but he isn't. If you don't like Trump and care about the US getting the policies you favour implemented then you should listen to what Tim Pool is telling you. He is essentially someone who has given up party allegiance and is shouting from the sidelines in frustration while the Democrats flail around in impotent rage and punch themselves in the face.

Schiff has lowered the bar for impeachment and the violation of privacy to the point of ridiculousness. What started as a flimsy excuse for an impeachment process has degenerated into an excuse for violating the privacy of communications of people they think there's a remote possibility might have said something incriminating. It has become a permanent inquisition. It was never about establishing truth. Schiff's process has heard unclassified evidence in an environment designed to protect classified evidence so that he can prevent Republicans from revealing testimony inconvenient to his kangaroo court. He has been very carefully controlling the narrative, with the aid of the main media channels, and preventing the appearance of rebuttal witnesses in order to create the impression of wrongdoing because he knows he doesn't have a case.
One of the things I've found fascinating about the current situation is watching the can-I-believe-it/must-I-believe-it motivated reasoning dynamics described by Jonathan Haidt laid so bare. Democratic Party partisans generally take it as a given that the removal of Trump from office would be a good thing, so a hypothesis loosely based on the facts is constructed that would warrant impeachment and removal from office. Then, the main investigative thrust is asking 'can I believe it' (i.e. is there evidence that would frankly contradict the hypothesis, and in its absence, the hypothesis is held as reasonable). Then, because it's essentially unmoored from evidence, the severity of the accusation ratchets up, from 'did Trump extort a foreign government to initiate an investigation?' to 'did Trump extort a foreign government to dig up dirt?'.

But when contrasted with the Clinton impeachment, the question becomes 'must I believe it?' (i.e. does perjury and subornation of perjury necessarily merit impeachment and removal from office?)? And so perjury becomes magically erased from the accusation, which is then framed as being about lying about blow jobs and having an affair with a young intern.

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I just found this guy.... and I think he is pretty good.

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Y'all saw that banana duct taped to a wall-- which sold at the Art Basel art fair for $120,000... and was snatched off the wall & eaten by another artist?

Well, apparently a hero named Rod Webber scrawled on the banana wall with lipstick...




Rod Webber also attempted to register to run for presnidunt in the New Hampshire primary, under the name Epstein Didn't Kill Himself

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... -president

For context, I recommend listening to Michael Malice on the Tom Woods show, discussing anarchist Emma Goldman. Seriously, it's interesting:

https://tomwoods.com/ep-1550-michael-ma ... a-goldman/

She's the one who said "If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution", as seen on bumper stickers on progressives' Subaru wagons.
(Nevermind that she was talking about progressive's progressive attempts to ban dancing.)

But she also inspired the assassination of President McKinley... and she declared "I Will Kill Frick"-- attempting to kill president of Carnegie Steel during a strike. Frick's art collection is now on permanent public display in Manhattan. Full circle, I guess. :banana-dance:

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Lsuoma wrote: BTW, what I'd REALLY like, and may buy if I can find a good one when I retire (2-3 years) is a Dragon.
Watch Rick & Morty Season 4 Episode 4. Let me know if it makes owning a dragon more or less appealing.
https://fmovies.wtf/film/rick-and-morty-4.yvw2x/xrl59rw

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Keating wrote: Clinton should have been impeached for bombing the pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan as a distraction.
Bush should have been impeached for normalising torture.
Obama should have been impeached for executing an American citizen without trial.
Reagan should have been impeached for rewarding Iranian terrorists in the arms for swaps deal. I'm surprised that you are upset at Obama having Al-Alwaki killed.
I would have thought that you were in favor of killing terrorists like al-Alwaki.

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Okay... so... bitches can take over the world as long as they are all this good!

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Rucka

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Keating wrote: Clinton should have been impeached for bombing the pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan as a distraction.
Bush should have been impeached for normalising torture.
Obama should have been impeached for executing an American citizen without trial.
Reagan should have been impeached for rewarding Iranian terrorists in the arms for swaps deal. I'm surprised that you are upset at Obama having Al-Alwaki killed.
I would have thought that you were in favor of killing terrorists like al-Alwaki.
I’d have gone back further to at least FDR and internment, but I thought my point was made.

I think Americans should be pissed at their government for executing a citizen without trial. Not being an American, failing to uphold the constitution doesn’t really please or piss me off. I am pissed at my government for failing to stand up for Assange, regardless of anything he’s done. Part of the reason I vote informal now.

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Keating wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:20 am
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Keating wrote: Clinton should have been impeached for bombing the pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan as a distraction.
Bush should have been impeached for normalising torture.
Obama should have been impeached for executing an American citizen without trial.
Reagan should have been impeached for rewarding Iranian terrorists in the arms for swaps deal. I'm surprised that you are upset at Obama having Al-Alwaki killed.
I would have thought that you were in favor of killing terrorists like al-Alwaki.
I’d have gone back further to at least FDR and internment, but I thought my point was made.

I think Americans should be pissed at their government for executing a citizen without trial. Not being an American, failing to uphold the constitution doesn’t really please or piss me off. I am pissed at my government for failing to stand up for Assange, regardless of anything he’s done. Part of the reason I vote informal now.
Like journalism? Don't be too hard on the Aussie government. Maybe Winne the Pooh threatened to ground them or stop their pocket money. There are drawbacks to selling yourself to despots.

I see people characterising the prosecuting of Assange as part of Trump's so-called assault on the media. What BS. Nobody went after the media like Obama. The Obama administration prosecuted 3 times as many whistleblower and leaker cases than all previous admins combined and holds the record for FOIA blocking and redaction. The press regarded him as the worst since at least the Nixon admin. And he had the balls to scold Trump about press freedom for engaging in public trashing of the press.

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Keating wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Keating wrote: Clinton should have been impeached for bombing the pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan as a distraction.
Bush should have been impeached for normalising torture.
Obama should have been impeached for executing an American citizen without trial.
Reagan should have been impeached for rewarding Iranian terrorists in the arms for swaps deal. I'm surprised that you are upset at Obama having Al-Alwaki killed.
I would have thought that you were in favor of killing terrorists like al-Alwaki.
I’d have gone back further to at least FDR and internment, but I thought my point was made.

I think Americans should be pissed at their government for executing a citizen without trial. [....]
Keating's point is very clear, and is also being made by many people across the political spectrum not afflicted by TDS: by lowering the bar to vague 'abuse of power', the Dems have opened the door to impeach any sitting president for practically anything, while turning a blind eye to things like Obama's extrajudicial assassination of US citizens, suspension of habeas corpus, double-tap drone strikes in violation of the Geneva Convention, persecution of whistle-blowers, etc., shows the Dems' impeachment juggernaut to be purely politically motivated, vindictive, and hypocritical.

It will come back to bite them in the ass, and hard.

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Everyone that thinks Trump should be impeached suffers from TDS. It couldn't be that the anti impeachment crowd has brain damage from drinking the toxic orange KoolAid?
https://thebulwark.com/how-are-republic ... peachment/

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Everyone that thinks Trump should be impeached suffers from TDS. It couldn't be that the anti impeachment crowd has brain damage from drinking the toxic orange KoolAid?
https://thebulwark.com/how-are-republic ... peachment/
Yet your assessment is that everyone who thinks Trump shouldn't be impeached is "brain-damaged" and pro-trump. You apparently find it inconceivable that someone who despises Trump -- like me -- could conclude that there's not enough evidence to impeach him -- like I do -- and also worry that impeachment will hurt the Dems next November, and lead to perennial and politically-motivated impeachments -- like I do.

No, in your alternate reality, there are but two types of people: dedicated members of the Resistance ["Good"], and orange-kool-aid chugging Trump supporters ["Evil"]. The former may include pro-immigration, laissez-faire capitalist, arch-conservatives like the never-trumper you cite. The latter includes your left-of-center mates at The Pit.

Barring extended consumption of hallucinogens or a recent brain aneurysm, I can only conclude that you, too, have succumbed to TDS.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Everyone that thinks Trump should be impeached suffers from TDS. It couldn't be that the anti impeachment crowd has brain damage from drinking the toxic orange KoolAid?
https://thebulwark.com/how-are-republic ... peachment/
Yet your assessment is that everyone who thinks Trump shouldn't be impeached is "brain-damaged" and pro-trump. You apparently find it inconceivable that someone who despises Trump -- like me -- could conclude that there's not enough evidence to impeach him -- like I do -- and also worry that impeachment will hurt the Dems next November, and lead to perennial and politically-motivated impeachments -- like I do.

No, in your alternate reality, there are but two types of people: dedicated members of the Resistance ["Good"], and orange-kool-aid chugging Trump supporters ["Evil"]. The former may include pro-immigration, laissez-faire capitalist, arch-conservatives like the never-trumper you cite. The latter includes your left-of-center mates at The Pit.

Barring extended consumption of hallucinogens or a recent brain aneurysm, I can only conclude that you, too, have succumbed to TDS.

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Barring extended consumption of hallucinogens or a recent brain aneurysm, I can only conclude that you, too, have succumbed to TDS.
You just made my point for me. Your self awareness is really slipping lately.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Everyone that thinks Trump should be impeached suffers from TDS. It couldn't be that the anti impeachment crowd has brain damage from drinking the toxic orange KoolAid?
https://thebulwark.com/how-are-republic ... peachment/
No. But failure to initiate new wars of mass slaughter, failure to introduce additional Patriot Acts, ownership of a strong economy (as measured by previously accepted metrics) and defence of the nations sovereign border - all while pissing off the libtards - will earn a man a measure of respect.

From thinking and reasonable individuals.

Is he free and easy with an unsubtle exercise of power and personal agenda? Let the party without sin .......

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Hey Brive - have you been following this? https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/pr ... hs-of-war/

I listened to the one on Gallipoli the other day. Fascinating, including learning that Kemal Ataturk didn't say the lines to mothers whose sons are now theres too.

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KiwiInOz wrote: Hey Brive - have you been following this? https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/pr ... hs-of-war/

I listened to the one on Gallipoli the other day. Fascinating, including learning that Kemal Ataturk didn't say the lines to mothers whose sons are now theres too.
Ta - I’ll have a listen. Today I’m at my ADFA graduation - yay. Followed by obligatory AWM.

I’m aware of the “mother’s” speech propaganda angle. Also that Kemal was personally awol for a lot of the 25th chasing an imaginary landing. When he got back to Baby 700 in early/mid afternoon he found his morning attack had broken down and was forced to fix a compounding mess. Which he did with a reorg of units and artillery plan. Alas for the mix of Australian and NZ troops.

Baby 700 was pivotal for a future sustainable defence of status quo but was only supportive for the days main goal. Which was a cover line on second ridge by 3/2 Bde behind which the 1Bde and NZ&A Division would form up and then exploit to Mal Tepe.

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Brive1987 wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: Hey Brive - have you been following this? https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/pr ... hs-of-war/

I listened to the one on Gallipoli the other day. Fascinating, including learning that Kemal Ataturk didn't say the lines to mothers whose sons are now theres too.
Ta - I’ll have a listen. Today I’m at my ADFA graduation - yay. Followed by obligatory AWM.

I’m aware of the “mother’s” speech propaganda angle. Also that Kemal was personally awol for a lot of the 25th chasing an imaginary landing. When he got back to Baby 700 in early/mid afternoon he found his morning attack had broken down and was forced to fix a compounding mess. Which he did with a reorg of units and artillery plan. Alas for the mix of Australian and NZ troops.

Baby 700 was pivotal for a future sustainable defence of status quo but was only supportive for the days main goal. Which was a cover line on second ridge by 3/2 Bde behind which the 1Bde and NZ&A Division would form up and then exploit to Mal Tepe.
Congrats on the graduation.

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