From today's Blinkered Feminism post over at the Pharyngulag:
Peezus wrote:I thought it was ridiculous before — I had Conservapædia raving about how fat I was, whole blogs dedicated to how stupid I was, and of course, frequent accusations of being gay — but once I got associated with feminism, the hatred reached a whole new level of shrieking. I’ve basically been declared an honorary woman by a whole new category of people, online atheists, who turn out to be worse than creationists, Christians, and Muslims. There are even more rants about my appearance, my ‘irrationality’, my sanity, than ever before.
And the scary thing is that when I compare what I get to what women activists get, I’m getting off easy.
You heard him, folks. He thinks he's getting off easy. Step it up. What's that you say? You've never stalked or harassed anyone in your entire life? You are just speaking up about a total lack of honesty and perspective on the part of a small group of honesty-challenged political radicals on the internet? Shut the fuck up and get edumacated. Read the the comments for a bunch of discussion about how to "solve the problem." A lot of back and forth about "ending anonymity," and how that might work. Not.
Some choice excerpts from the rest. Get out your patriarchy bingo cards, and check your privilege:
Leatham wrote:Is the compulsion to anonymously express violent hatred towards people you have never met an American thing, or are there spineless scumbags all over the world?
'Tis Himself Rodney Nelson Professional Plagiarist wrote:This is the thing I’ve never quite understood. Why is there so much hatred towards women (and men who support women)? Why has Rebecca Watson had months of death and rape threats thrown at her for saying “guys, don’t do that� Why is Ophelia threatened with having acid thrown at her? Why is Greta screamed at for buying a pair of shoes?
Darwin Harmless wrote:I’ve been wracking my brains for some way to silence the silencers, but so far that seems impossible. ...
It’s all enough to make me want to see the end of anonymous blogs and comments. But then we have to face the fanatical fundies who would kill us for insulting their imaginary magical buddies.
... Okay, decision made. I would give up being anonymous to put an end to this crap. Now how do we make that happen? And is it worth it in view of the fact that we’d lose people like Cuttlefish? And maybe Darwin Harmless.
dgrasett wrote:You can see the examples of this behaviour in graffiti, and in the destruction of ancient monuments in the middle east. This is what fuelled the Holocaust. I have, for years, asked myself why the killing continued when it was obvious that it was improper behaviour. ...
... It will only be curbed when the internet is as policed as ‘real life’. Then they will find other ways.
This is only my opinion – from a lifetime of watching and trying to learn. I have no credentials except those of life.
And I grieve at this.
fantysq (a Radical Feminist and a Militant Atheist) wrote:For the patriarchy to exist, it needs to keep women rendered as sub-human. And the easiest way to dehumanise someone is through hatred.
Gregory Greenwood wrote:And then there is the fact that we live in a highly patriarchal society that fosters the kind of toxic masculinity that sees ‘putting uppity women in their place’ as an entirely acceptable ‘manly pursuit’. The fact is that society simply doesn’t place much importance upon stopping such people from behaving in this fashion before they become violent.
Improbable Joe wrote:The worst of the language might be slowed down by taking away anonymity… but stopped? Not in this lifetime. Look how many of the worst people are engaging in their hate campaigns under their real names, and people like Vacula who feel comfortable following their victims to meat-space events.
And it is the people using their real names who are the real problem, because they are the ones who provide cover for the hate by constantly telling the lie that this is about “disagreements†or “ideology.†It is about foaming-at-the-mouth hate on their end, and nothing else.
laurentweppe wrote:The thing is, there are a lot of men out there who are certain that millions of women more talented than them are kept bellow them thanks to glass ceilings: protecting these glass ceilings is a matter of survival for these guys, and the best way to protect an unfair system is to forbid people for even saying publicly that the system is unfair.
LykeX wrote:When Rebecca said, “don’t do that,†it was such a big deal because it’s just one more attack on their male dignity. It’s not what she said as much as what it represents to them; one more brick in the prison cell for True Masculinity.
They see the world they want and understand slipping away and they’re fighting against it. They except women to be wilting flowers pining away for the rugged embrace of a Real Man and they get confused and upset when those same women decide that they don’t want to follow that script.
What Rebecca did was not to say, “don’t do that.†What she said was, “I’m not going to be the way you want me to be.†These men are very tired of being told that. They’re highly frustrated and they don’t seem to know how to deal with it gracefully or constructively.
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