Apparently, asking why threats weren't reported to the police is 'victim blaming.' Apparently, women who are recipients of "literal threats of rape and murder" should just be passive and not report threats to authorities? Asking why "literal threats of rape and murder" are not reported to police is a damn good question. Wouldn't we expect this if these "literal threats of rape and murder" were so prevalent and such a problem that men from the skeptical/atheist communities are being asked to take a stand against it? Apparently, the police just shouldn't get involved and we should just write strongly-worded letters expressive disapproval...because that's the way to change things.real horrorshow wrote:Well that didn't last:
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Just for the fun of it, I thought I'd postsome of the pearls of wisdom that are raining down in Steffunny's latest post where she tries ever-so-hard to prove just exactly how stupid she really is (http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... education/)
Stefunny said:
stakkalee said:
TidyBowl said:
smhll said:
ischemgeek said:
Improbable Joe said:
The entertainment never really ends.
Stefunny said:
My emphasis. Round and round and round we go....Convincing people does happen. It may even happen sometimes in online spaces where everyone is very nice and refrains from any naming and shaming in conversation. I don’t know. I see very few of those places. Though they’re often touted as the ideal, they are far more rare than they think they are. The ones I do see have a far more restricted commentariat than we get around these parts.
stakkalee said:
Smeh?The ability to intellectualize an argument is another form of privilege. I wish more people would realize that.
TidyBowl said:
In my opinion, the day that TidyBowl actually understands principals of rhetoric is the day the world ends.Ethos, pathos and logos. Without all three, your argument is hamstrung by design.
smhll said:
Huh?The crucial “privilege†that comes into play when discussing social justice issues is the privilege of not being in pain right at the the very beginning of the discussion.
ischemgeek said:
LOL.All that aside, it’s still his space and it’s his right to create the environment he desires. I do not take issue with his attempt to build the environment he wants at all. I just worry that the environment he says he desires (one that is safe, civil and respectful) and the environment he’s creating (one that feels emotionally repressive on issues are charged by their very nature) are two different things.
Improbable Joe said:
/scratches headStrictly policing the use of heated emotional language used in discussing human social interactions is dehumanizing, in that it treats the discussion like some sort of abstract philosophical word game with little actual meaning. By contrast, the use of emotional language including insults, including calling people assholes, is ultimately humanizing. It says “I am a person, and you’re a person, and you’re being a bad person by hurting me, by minimizing me, by attacking me or trying to muzzle me.†Especially for people who are marginalized by society, it is important to be able to stand up and call out people when they are being assholes.
The entertainment never really ends.
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LOL. I forgot my emphasiseses:
The ones I do see have a far more restricted commentariat than we get around these parts.
The ones I do see have a far more restricted commentariat than we get around these parts.
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The descent into pomo never stops...John Greg wrote: /scratches head
The entertainment never really ends.
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E-READER THINGIE--
Apparently I have Lexcycle Stanza (Mac)-- It will pretty much open anything and it will export the file as pretty much anything.
Apparently I have Lexcycle Stanza (Mac)-- It will pretty much open anything and it will export the file as pretty much anything.
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Someone somewhere - I forget which post mentioned it, sorry - said that there were two FftB parody sites. I know the Freethoughtblahgs one. Maybe this is the other one. They've been doing a grand parody of a real site that we just can't see. The whole thing is one huge poe!Lsuoma wrote:The descent into pomo never stops...John Greg wrote: /scratches head
The entertainment never really ends.
:pray: :doh: :obscene-birdiered: :teasing-poke:
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@JohnGreg
And yet, for all their protests, the very people demanding the right to use the word 'asshole' are quite clearly very capable of being assholes without actually having to use such coarse language to demonstrate it.
And yet, for all their protests, the very people demanding the right to use the word 'asshole' are quite clearly very capable of being assholes without actually having to use such coarse language to demonstrate it.
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Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
I do not know what to say.
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
I do not know what to say.
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It's because Orwell quite clearly describesJohn Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
I do not know what to say.
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It gets worse. She also describes Orwell's fictional works as:
Mindlessness is rampant.... interesting, but they’re not good. (I would say the same about Aldous Huxley. I frequently try to read him again, and always fail, because the writing is so crude.)
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Nonsense. She clearly realized he was writing non-fiction and not fiction. It's all so clear.Lsuoma wrote:It's because Orwell quite clearly describesJohn Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
I do not know what to say.Orwellia'sOphelia's stock in trade, which she hoped that nobody would notice...
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Chris Hallquist said:
What fucking planet....
Ophelia replied:I see your point about Orwell, though 1984 was a brilliant essay.
Huh? WTF?Chris, yes – and more of an essay than a novel.
What fucking planet....
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Tigzy said:
Will it last?"Well that's a load of fuckin old bolloocks rith there.Not a very good movelist, I always thgought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same.
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well I couldn't let that pass (fuming):John Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
I do not know what to say.
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Whoops. Sorry for the typos in the quote quote.
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SHHHHH
Don't let the Pit know you use mac! Then I'll have to admit I do too...
Don't let the Pit know you use mac! Then I'll have to admit I do too...
ERV wrote:E-READER THINGIE--
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It was hard to pick one, but that has to be my favourite. The ability to know what you're talking about is cheating, because it gives you an advantage over those who don't. Is this a Poe? Is stakkalee a Pit Crew member in disguise, because this is so close to a piss-take I'm not sure I could spot the difference.John Greg wrote:
stakkalee said:
The ability to intellectualize an argument is another form of privilege. I wish more people would realize that.
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Geez, that Svan link above is full of fail.
Also, they're still attacking Fincke over his moderation policy.
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Also, they're still attacking Fincke over his moderation policy.
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grrr, not "Also"..that was part of something I decided not to post and forgot to edit.
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First day of gross anatomy lab, and one of the students accidentally unleashed a tidal wave of tank fluid on my scrubs by lowering the cadaver tray into the tank too quickly. Every year. It happens every year. I stank so much that the little dogs wanted nothing to do with me until I'd showered and changed clothes.
So dammit I need to laugh and rant at some FfTB stupidity. Here's another "pearl" of disingenuousness from Stefunny's post:
So dammit I need to laugh and rant at some FfTB stupidity. Here's another "pearl" of disingenuousness from Stefunny's post:
News flash: You are part of the leisured class ... you and all your FfTBuddies who fly all over the planet to attend meetings that serve primarily to provide you with more blog and Twitter fodder. It's not work. You're not working, and your only social justice "activism" is completely self-serving. It's not the fucking Arab Spring. You're not in any danger. You're not even experiencing any discomfort, as far as I can tell. Lying sanctimonious liars. Fuck off.It’s going to be accompanied by a lot of work to change the world more quickly, though. I won’t be leisurely about that. I won’t be unemotional. I won’t hide what it costs me. I will weigh the relative merits of being inclusive and getting things done for any given action as I go.
And nobody gets to tell me that I should stop doing any of that in order to focus on educating the leisure class.
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The general philosophy these idiots seem to espousing, or at lest moving towards, is very much the paranoid (non-clinical, as is made clear if you read the books) mindset described by Richard Hofstadter in The Paranoid Style in American Politics, in which he describes the Goldwater movement of the early '60s.real horrorshow wrote:It was hard to pick one, but that has to be my favourite. The ability to know what you're talking about is cheating, because it gives you an advantage over those who don't. Is this a Poe? Is stakkalee a Pit Crew member in disguise, because this is so close to a piss-take I'm not sure I could spot the difference.John Greg wrote:
stakkalee said:
The ability to intellectualize an argument is another form of privilege. I wish more people would realize that.
The anti-elitism is beginning to burgeon.
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If nothing else, then this one opinion serves to show what an utter moron Ophelia Benson is. Sure, she doesn't have to like any of Orwell's novels, but given the esteem and influence of these novels - in particular Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-Four - over his essays (though I admit, The Road to Wigan Pier is a standout as an essay, especially in the bleak humour of his description of life in the Brookers' lodging house), she is very, very much mistaken in her assertion that he was a better essayist than novelist.John Greg wrote:Tigzy said:
Will it last?"Well that's a load of fuckin old bolloocks rith there.Not a very good movelist, I always thgought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same.
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Ah, it's gone already. Why am I not suprised...Tigzy wrote:well I couldn't let that pass (fuming):John Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
I do not know what to say.
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Quite beyond the pale, as far as I'm concerned!
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<pedant>Tigzy wrote:The Road to Wigan Pier is a standout as an essay, especially in the bleak humour of his description of life in the Brookers' lodging house), she is very, very much mistaken in her assertion that he was a better essayist than novelist.
Hooker, not Brooker...
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But otherwise, yes indeed!
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Shit - yes - it was 'Hooker' wasn't it. *thwarted fanboi shameface*
Well...Ophelia got me all steamed up about it, hence the mistake. Yes. That's what happened.
Well...Ophelia got me all steamed up about it, hence the mistake. Yes. That's what happened.
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They're all into lit crit on Skepchick too:Tigzy wrote:well I couldn't let that pass (fuming):
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Quite beyond the pale, as far as I'm concerned!
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I wonder how he knew I was being unironic? Maybe because what happens to Alex is so enviable that anyone would want to follow in his footsteps? Or is it that his dash round the interwebs looking for stuff on a book he knows fuck-all about didn't include a plot summary?
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Sorry about not posting much but ftb are now dead to me. Though on my facebook wall Matt Dillahunty was calling ThunderfOOt a dishonest prick and threatening to start blocking people who disagreed with him. WTF if you behave like a creationist then you are a creationist in my book. :doh:
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Even after years of dealing with Creationists and anti-vaxers, I dont know what to say to that kind of anti-intellectualism.
"LUL! SEE, CREATIONSTS LUKING DOWN ON SCIENTISTS IZ BAD BUT US LOOKING DOWN ON LITERATURE IS GUD SEE? LULZ!"
"LUL! SEE, CREATIONSTS LUKING DOWN ON SCIENTISTS IZ BAD BUT US LOOKING DOWN ON LITERATURE IS GUD SEE? LULZ!"
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Interestingly, the 'puritan-progressive' types who tend to latch on to the left wing - such as Ophelia, for instance - were busy in Orwell's time, too. So the FC5(6) sort are nothing new. In fact, they're quite quaint*, really. Orwell contemptuously referred to such people as 'bearded fruit-juice drinkers'.
*'quaint' has interesting etymological roots. It was synonymous with 'vulva' in the fourtheenth century. Hence the phonetic similarity to...
*'quaint' has interesting etymological roots. It was synonymous with 'vulva' in the fourtheenth century. Hence the phonetic similarity to...
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So now she's a literary critic?John Greg wrote:Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as :
My emphasis.not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same. Some people just shouldn’t write fiction; it’s odd when they don’t realize it.
I do not know what to say.
Keep the Aspidistra Flying? The Clergyman's Daughter? Two of my favourite novels. As for Gore Vidal, Benson could learn a few things from The Messiah.
I shudder to imagine what she might think of Wells.
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which Skepchick post is this from?I wonder how he knew I was being unironic? Maybe because what happens to Alex is so enviable that anyone would want to follow in his footsteps? Or is it that his dash round the interwebs looking for stuff on a book he knows fuck-all about didn't include a plot summary?
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how the divine pen of Michel Nostradamus crushed the international atheist movement
http://dissidentphilosophy.lifediscussi ... bquake-911
for lies on top of lies
do you think you can threaten my right to FREE SPEECH?
what if I told you that I am not who you think I am….
Not Dennis Markuze - but a FAN!
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what if I told you that I am not who you think I am….
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Well, to be fair, the proles read Orwell and Huxley. In public school, even. Which means it is far too pedestrian for real intellectuals to take seriously.John Greg wrote:It gets worse. She also describes Orwell's fictional works as:
Mindlessness is rampant.... interesting, but they’re not good. (I would say the same about Aldous Huxley. I frequently try to read him again, and always fail, because the writing is so crude.)
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Cheers, Lsuoma. I can deal with the emoticons as long as they don't move or flash. I actually like the one with the big eyes that basically stands for WTF (named "shocked"). I don't completely want to remove .gifs, but for me, I suppose it is better than the alternative.Lsuoma wrote:How to disable gif animations.sacha wrote:I have AdBlock Plus, smilies are disabled and won't show as an image, but I still have the fucking flashing images!
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Oh dear. We've gained a wood louse.
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xjustos... Hello Mabus!
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Ah, I heard he was on the loose again. Guess it was just a matter of time before he came here.sacha wrote:xjustos... Hello Mabus!
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Yep. Googling for this finds a lot of hits for posting on Zinnia Jones and a couple of other FfTBlogs, but the comments are no longer there.Tigzy wrote:Ah, I heard he was on the loose again. Guess it was just a matter of time before he came here.sacha wrote:xjustos... Hello Mabus!
The IP address is also listed at stopforumspam.com.
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He's been pestering AXP too. Bad move on his part, considering Martin's prediliction for dobbing people in to the authorities wherever possible: http://freethoughtblogs.com/axp/2012/07 ... -sentence/
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Haven't seen him in awhile. He hit our forum for a short period
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But he lost interest in us. :(
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But he lost interest in us. :(
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That "everything is already documented" argument frequently used by the Baboons and Skepchicks is very much a copy of the trick religious people use when they say "well, until you've read the Bible from front to cover, you atheist has no argument".real horrorshow wrote:Well that didn't last:
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Indeed. But when Osama Greg Laden blamed Justin Griffith for revealing what a bully Laden is, the FfTB crew stayed very quiet on the issue of Laden's "victim blaming"!!!justinvacula wrote:Apparently, asking why threats weren't reported to the police is 'victim blaming.'
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I guess we have finally arrived as a blog if mabus has time to spam us.
Just discovered Korean rap.
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It was recently said that firing him was enough.CommanderTuvok wrote:Indeed. But when Osama Greg Laden blamed Justin Griffith for revealing what a bully Laden is, the FfTB crew stayed very quiet on the issue of Laden's "victim blaming"!!!justinvacula wrote:Apparently, asking why threats weren't reported to the police is 'victim blaming.'
Funny, that is...when DJ Grothe's comments warrant blog posts for weeks, but an actual documented threat/violent letter doesn't even warrant one from -- and correct me if I am wrong -- PZ, Ophelia, Zvan, or Jason.
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If anyone is wondering about Mabus/xjustos being banninated (since he no longer appears as the latest member), I've just forced reactivation for him, not banned him.
There's no reason why I should make it easy for him to spew his shite all over here...
There's no reason why I should make it easy for him to spew his shite all over here...
Smilies are for reetards
Fuck this - .sig updated. Amusing for 2 seconds. Seriously, if you are incapable of nuancing your language to convey meaning without relying on cutesie animated .gifs, you are a fucking reetard.
Nonsense mitigation -
http://i.imgur.com/8iEsB.png
If killing smilies is not sufficient, you can kill BBCode altogether - which is becoming more tempting given that multimedia has stopped being a post enhancement tool and become a mud pie play pit for toddlers that have never seen such MightyTechnology.
Nonsense mitigation -
http://i.imgur.com/8iEsB.png
If killing smilies is not sufficient, you can kill BBCode altogether - which is becoming more tempting given that multimedia has stopped being a post enhancement tool and become a mud pie play pit for toddlers that have never seen such MightyTechnology.
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epistemic relativismJohn Greg wrote:What the fuck does that even mean?the impact of YOU getting a rape threat is different than a woman getting one
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Hi, Honey
franc wrote:Fuck this - .sig updated. Amusing for 2 seconds. Seriously, if you are incapable of nuancing your language to convey meaning without relying on cutesie animated .gifs, you are a fucking reetard.
Nonsense mitigation -
http://i.imgur.com/8iEsB.png
If killing smilies is not sufficient, you can kill BBCode altogether - which is becoming more tempting given that multimedia has stopped being a post enhancement tool and become a mud pie play pit for toddlers that have never seen such MightyTechnology.
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Hey Franc, do not hold back, you should let us know what you really feel. Now I admit that a certain flashing graphic might have given me a headache, but I have no objection to smilies. None at all.franc wrote:Fuck this - .sig updated. Amusing for 2 seconds. Seriously, if you are incapable of nuancing your language to convey meaning without relying on cutesie animated .gifs, you are a fucking reetard.
... chop chop
If killing smilies is not sufficient, you can kill BBCode altogether - which is becoming more tempting given that multimedia has stopped being a post enhancement tool and become a mud pie play pit for toddlers that have never seen such MightyTechnology.
I may even use them from time to time myself. Muahahaha!
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I love how Franc gets upset over HTML issues.
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do us a favor and search for "martin wagner" on ytube
we fixed about 100 atheists like this
we fixed about 100 atheists like this
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I even included one specially for franc, MKGN, and all their compos...
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:flags-australia:
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Fuck that. I want one with:Lsuoma wrote:I even included one specially for franc, MKGN, and all their compos...
:flags-australia:
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Re: bloody emoticons!
Another lovely tool to add to FireFix is Nuke Anything Enhanced.sacha wrote:you are my hero, Skeeve. getting AdBlock Plus now.Skeeve wrote:
AdBlockPlus will get rid of individual images. I just blocked the above flashing .gif.
All gone, bye bye.
thank you, and now more than ever if anyone does not detect my sarcasm without a fucking flashing explanation, I don't bloody care.Nectar: "Um, except maybe when talking with Franc, Sacha or Michael."
A simple right-click on anything in your browser's window, and blammo--it's gone. A nice way to get rid of individual items, but you'd rather not block the entire server/domain for.
Also take a look at NoScript ...
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Try Nuke Anything, an add-on for FireFoxsacha wrote:I have AdBlock Plus, smilies are disabled and won't show as an image, but I still have the fucking flashing images!
Also, look at NoScript, another add-on.
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By burning? Disembowelment? Dismembering? Reading your fantasiesxjustos wrote:do us a favor and search for "martin wagner" on ytube
we fixed about 100 atheists like this
:angry-screaming:
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'Tis true. Everyone knows the best way to add nuance to your writings is LOLCats.franc wrote:Fuck this - .sig updated. Amusing for 2 seconds. Seriously, if you are incapable of nuancing your language to convey meaning without relying on cutesie animated .gifs, you are a fucking reetard.
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpre ... others.jpg
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Also, hitting Esc will freeze all animated GIFs on a page (until it's reloaded).Bob of QF wrote:Try Nuke Anything, an add-on for FireFoxsacha wrote:I have AdBlock Plus, smilies are disabled and won't show as an image, but I still have the fucking flashing images!
Also, look at NoScript, another add-on.