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Post by Michael J » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:16 pm

Scented Nectar wrote:
Submariner wrote:I noticed some commenters pointing to the fact that "no MRA types" were commenting on the PZed post was somehow indicative of concession.
Yep, it wouldn't have aaaannnyyything to do with the fact that PZ blocks everyone he thinks is an MRA or Pitter. He even wrote once that he goes through the Pit for names and put us all into a blocking filter. :lol:
It is so spooky how much this is like creationist sites. I think the other issue with the stats is that how many women who have never been to conferences answered based on the fear whipped up by the radfem mob.

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Post by Tigzy » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:17 pm

Apples wrote::think: Over at Thunderdome there is a conversation about whether Turd of Redhead needs to find a word other than POOF when he presses his "poof fuckwittery opinion dismissed" button. He seems rather disgruntled, as it's apparently the only toy in his pram.

Actually started because "cm's changeable moniker" suggested *as a joke* that it shouldn't be used due to its being "harsh Brit slang for gay men." Of course Caine promptly affirms that she will no longer use it in her writing.

ChasCPeterson weighs in: "y’know, one alternative might be to not post the same words (whatever words) over and over and over and over and over and over. But that’s an opinion." :D

Nerd considers that he might begin using SGBM's suggestion, which is "Foof."

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... derdome-15
:lol: Poor old Nerd does seem disgruntled at the prospect of not being allowed to use his *POOF* anymore.

Unfortunately for SGBM, his ignorance has betrayed him on this one, as 'foof' is also a slang term for dem ladyparts in my neck of the woods. Short for 'foofoo'. Sure, it's not a widely used term, but given that SGBM is known to frot his puddings at any word which could even be remotely synonymous with 'cunt', I should expect him - if he is lurking - to remove his recommendation for 'foof', or that he be advised to do so should any free-range Pharyngulite be lurking here.

If more evidence were needed: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=foof

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Post by Cunning Punt » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:18 pm

Mykeru wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Over on the A+ Moderator thread of Ceaseless Amusement, we learn that ignoring rude people is tone policing and silences them.

You can't even opt to ignore people over there without getting told off. Ridiculous.
Using that logic any mod who bans a person for whatever reason is tone policing.
And another thing, aren't these the same people who, when we complain of being silenced use the argument that "ONLY DE GOVERNMINT CAN SILENCE YOUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!! U CAN STILL POST ON THE INTERNET SO U IS NOT SILENCED!!!111!!! FREEZE PEACH HAHAHAHAH!!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!"?

Fail.
Well, that makes sense.

Fun fact: Growing up I never heard my parents argue. Maybe now and then one raised their voice in exasperation for about 10 seconds, but my mother is a relentlessly pleasant person and my father is just freaking stoic.

So, when I could hear the neighbors going at it, this was completely outside my experience. To this day I can't quite accept that people will actually stand there and yell at each other.

I've been in relationships with women who actually thought there was something "healthy" and "cathartic" about screaming shit that no one actually means. I refuse to do it.

Just my last relationship the past summer, I knew exactly the point she was done. She was ticked off about something or other and I could see she was gearing up. So I just walked away. Not avoidance. I just hold that if something is important enough to argue about, it can wait until a person can talk to me like an adult.

After that she brought it up a couple times. It was bad. It was wrong. I was denying her something or other. Fuck that.

Funny that the people who are so big on "safe spaces" and "being comfortable" demand that people do the internet version of Private Snow Flake while the forum hard-asses do their impersonation of R. Lee Ermy screaming in their faces.

That some feminists actually argue that a man walking away from some ranting, histrionic tantrum-induced harpy constitutes abuse by him on her, still boggles my fucking mind.
As the baboons would say, THIS. My ex was like this. She thought she was just expressing herself, and at least she was honest, and why wouldn't I talk to her? She would say the same thing, that walking away when she was trying to speak (i.e. yell) was abuse.

I think this is why they (the baboons) rub me up the wrong way so much, they remind me of her. Win every argument regardless of who you tear down in the process, because there's a yawning insecurity there that has to be fed.

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Post by Metalogic42 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:18 pm

Ha, I just noticed this in Ophelia's cloud tag:

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/bw0trqC.jpg[/spoiler]

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Post by another lurker » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:19 pm

anon wrote:
Just jumping in to say that that article doesnt say how they know its specifically a woman's skirt. Unless it was found in a specificall female context (as judged by the ancient culture, not ours) then its simply a skirt. Also men wearing skirts or skirt equivalents is quite common. Look at the romans' togas. Or look up the death of the kilt as every day wear. You'll find it was hard to get those guys to give up their skirts.

Also, if you want to oppress women, I think you're horrible, but if you really want to DO IT RIGHT! Making them wear skirts is pretty lame.
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Post by Scented Nectar » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:20 pm

debaser71 wrote:"Have you ever felt unwelcome, discriminated against, or harmed in the secular movement?"

But that's not what they asked.
Just who did this survey anyways? Do they have any training in statistics? I'm going to guess no. That's one of the worst survey questions I've ever seen in it's vagueness, combination of questions, and lack of requesting specifics on the answers (which bad thing was felt, where, why, who, etc.). It's a setup for contrived numbers. Especially avoiding the numbers and just giving percentages, which infer incorrect things when examined by an idiot or liar.

Being that PZ used to tear apart other just-as-bad studies for their bad methodology (something I once really enjoyed seeing in his posts), I have to assume this is willful ignorance. He knows full well how bad his numbers and assumptions about it are. He's just a liar. PZ Liars.

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Post by Tigzy » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:24 pm

Ha-haaa!
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls

25 January 2013 at 10:00 am (UTC -6)

I like “foof” per Strange Gods #570.
Word to the not-so-wise, Nerd: I do not believe SGBM likes foof as much as you may think.

But please do use this slang-term for female genitalia in place of your *POOF*, because it would give us all another thing to laugh at you about.

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Post by Scented Nectar » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:27 pm

Metalogic42 wrote:How do they manage to find the time to even brush their teeth in the morning?
OH MY GAWD! Stop oppressing them, you ableist! Some people are hygiene-challenged, don't you know. Check your hygiene privilege. Unless, of course, you are a smelly man after a long days hard work sweating, on a bus with Ophie, in which case you'll be thrown under the bus, you misogynist.
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Post by another lurker » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:28 pm

Tigzy, I checked out that thunderdome link

Irony meter overload!


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LykeX:

I wonder if anybody has any thoughts on matters like whether there is a real danger of getting over-sensitive about language?

Yeah, I think there are concerns. Personally, I don’t have a problem with the use of crazy, however, there is no denying that no matter the context, crazy in love, crazy about cars, etc., that it implies a feeling and mental state which is seriously out of bounds.

As for some people who advocate the reclaiming of certain words, I sympathise. I really do. I use queer and bitch myself, in private, with a specific set of friends, who use those words in a reclaiming way. However, the larger problem is when you get an atmosphere like this blog, which gets millions of hits and readers per day. Someone out there is going to incur damage from the casual slinging of thoughtless slurs. The price is simply too high. We have worked long and hard, for years, to make Pharyngula a safe place for all people.


Yeah, it's a safe place for all people, required they let the horde think for them!

And MILLIONS of hits per day, really?

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Post by cunt » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:29 pm

Yes. Please do use foof you ridiculous, cartoon of a man.

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Post by nippletwister » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:29 pm

Submariner wrote:
fascination wrote:
Submariner wrote:

I know I'm pretty new around here, but this fear of doxing all seems rather McCarthyist and "witch-hunty".
Despite what Greta writes. Is there precedent I'm unaware of for this ultra-secrecy?
Personally, I am not that worried about it. If I can't set up an alternate PayPal account (legally) then I'm still donating. I don't think Reed will dox. However, other FTB people have doxxed people. People have had their employment threatened, letters have been written to people's grad programs and universities, at least one person lost their job over this crap, etc, etc. So I don't blame other people for being wary.

Wow, that seems like a really shitty thing to do. I don't know if that kind of thing is illegal or not, but even if legal, it's just , well, nasty.

And this site is called the Slymepit??? I think I know how Kafka felt, now.
Yup....you're cruising along, minding your own business, and one day you say something seemingly innocuous like "it's a guy thing", or "there is no such thing as a rape switch" and BLAMMO, you wake up the next day and half the atheist bloggers have declared you a cockroach.

If you do not beg forgiveness and tongue their assholes just the right way, they move on to The Trial.

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Post by Submariner » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:31 pm

Tigzy wrote:
Apples wrote::think: Over at Thunderdome there is a conversation about whether Turd of Redhead needs to find a word other than POOF when he presses his "poof fuckwittery opinion dismissed" button. He seems rather disgruntled, as it's apparently the only toy in his pram.

Actually started because "cm's changeable moniker" suggested *as a joke* that it shouldn't be used due to its being "harsh Brit slang for gay men." Of course Caine promptly affirms that she will no longer use it in her writing.

ChasCPeterson weighs in: "y’know, one alternative might be to not post the same words (whatever words) over and over and over and over and over and over. But that’s an opinion." :D

Nerd considers that he might begin using SGBM's suggestion, which is "Foof."

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... derdome-15
:lol: Poor old Nerd does seem disgruntled at the prospect of not being allowed to use his *POOF* anymore.

Unfortunately for SGBM, his ignorance has betrayed him on this one, as 'foof' is also a slang term for dem ladyparts in my neck of the woods. Short for 'foofoo'. Sure, it's not a widely used term, but given that SGBM is known to frot his puddings at any word which could even be remotely synonymous with 'cunt', I should expect him - if he is lurking - to remove his recommendation for 'foof', or that he be advised to do so should any free-range Pharyngulite be lurking here.

If more evidence were needed: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=foof

A suggestion, then: ZANG

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Post by Tigzy » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:33 pm

cunt wrote:Yes. Please do use foof you ridiculous, cartoon of a man.
The thing is - and this really does astonish me - Nerd of Redhead is, apparently, at least sixty years old.

You'd think that after all that time, he'd have at least learned something in the way of eloquence and the occasional original thought.

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Post by cunt » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:37 pm

None of them have had an original thought in their lives. Here you go Nerd.

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Post by cunt » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:40 pm

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this thread is getting slow

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Post by nippletwister » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:48 pm

Michael K Gray wrote:
fascination wrote:Like I said though, I feel for trans people.
Turn on the light.
Then you can just see them, rather than feel for them.
Myself, I've always had a lot of respect for blind prostitutes....you've really got to hand it to them.

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Post by Metalogic42 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:52 pm

PZ Myers wrote:They started talking about the two kinds of feminists, and oh no, I thought, here comes that boring anti-feminist crap peddled by Christina Hoff Sommers and happily swallowed by every MRA on the planet, that there are gender feminists and equity feminists.
Tim Minchin wrote:Does the idea that one afternoon on Wiki-fucking-pedia might enlighten you, frighten you?

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Post by LMU » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:59 pm

Metalogic42 wrote:
PZ Myers wrote:They started talking about the two kinds of feminists, and oh no, I thought, here comes that boring anti-feminist crap peddled by Christina Hoff Sommers and happily swallowed by every MRA on the planet, that there are gender feminists and equity feminists.
Tim Minchin wrote:Does the idea that one afternoon on Wiki-fucking-pedia might enlighten you, frighten you?
To be fair, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equity_feminism makes it appear that Sommers was the first to make that specific distinction, so PZ might just be disagreeing with her. It would actually be useful (as opposed to pointlessly divisive) if he could explain why though.

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Post by Altair » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:04 pm

Tigzy wrote:From Peez's 'Data about Secularism' thread http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-545198

[spoiler]
kbonn

25 January 2013 at 9:39 am (UTC -6)

This whole post PZ seems a bit premature. Once they hit 10,000 responses they are going to post the full numbers. There is a lot we cannot tell from percentages alone.

Particularly this part:

What are your reasons for not being involved in the secular movement? Check as many as apply.
(women/men)
70%/30% – Bad experience with group, person, or event
100%/0% – Can’t get over my conditioning that religion is good and secularism is bad
67%/33% – Health issues
65%/35% – Lack of childcare

The imbalance is important, but what are the totals? For example, why are women staying out due to health issues more? Is that total significantly higher than the other 3? What were the total responses? How systemic is this problem? Clearly women have had more bad experiences then men, but it could be statisticly irrelevant compared to one(or more) of the other options, or it could be the most significant issue by far. We just have no idea yet.

Same point to the “feeling unwelcome”, without the raw numbers we don’t really have any idea how bad the issue is. I am glad they are doing the survey, but this post seems premature. If only (random small number, say 200 people) said they don’t feel welcome, yes it sucks that woman have a higher percentage of people who feel unwelcome, but we’d be looking at 124 women out of 4,170. Or it could be much, much higher. Simply put, why rush this out?
I'm definitely intrigued by those numbers - still, from the looks of things, the likes of Sally Syringe have already got it sussed.
70%/30% – Bad experience with group, person, or event
That totes because of all the sexism you get at Atheist/secular cons, y'know.[/spoiler]
100%/0% – Can’t get over my conditioning that religion is good and secularism is bad
Yeah, cos that's totes because there's no sexism in...um, religion.
This is probably a dumb question because statistics are not my cup of tea, but how is that 100% supposed to be read? Is it supposed to be a 100% of the women who reported being uninvolved, or is it a 100% of the women who decided to answer that question, or something else?

Because I don't think that all of the uninvolved women would say yes to that question, would they?

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Post by Pitchguest » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:06 pm

another lurker wrote:Tigzy, I checked out that thunderdome link

Irony meter overload!


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24 January 2013 at 7:11 pm (UTC -6)

LykeX:

I wonder if anybody has any thoughts on matters like whether there is a real danger of getting over-sensitive about language?

Yeah, I think there are concerns. Personally, I don’t have a problem with the use of crazy, however, there is no denying that no matter the context, crazy in love, crazy about cars, etc., that it implies a feeling and mental state which is seriously out of bounds.

As for some people who advocate the reclaiming of certain words, I sympathise. I really do. I use queer and bitch myself, in private, with a specific set of friends, who use those words in a reclaiming way. However, the larger problem is when you get an atmosphere like this blog, which gets millions of hits and readers per day. Someone out there is going to incur damage from the casual slinging of thoughtless slurs. The price is simply too high. We have worked long and hard, for years, to make Pharyngula a safe place for all people.


Yeah, it's a safe place for all people, required they let the horde think for them!

And MILLIONS of hits per day, really?
"I do use queer and bitch myself, in private, with a specific set of firends, who use those words in a reclaiming way."

Wow. Also, in a "reclaiming way"? Pffthahahaha. :lol:

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Post by Metalogic42 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:09 pm

LMU wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:
PZ Myers wrote:They started talking about the two kinds of feminists, and oh no, I thought, here comes that boring anti-feminist crap peddled by Christina Hoff Sommers and happily swallowed by every MRA on the planet, that there are gender feminists and equity feminists.
Tim Minchin wrote:Does the idea that one afternoon on Wiki-fucking-pedia might enlighten you, frighten you?
To be fair, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equity_feminism makes it appear that Sommers was the first to make that specific distinction, so PZ might just be disagreeing with her. It would actually be useful (as opposed to pointlessly divisive) if he could explain why though.
Given PZ's track record of guilt by association, his statement "happily swallowed by every MRA on the planet" is probably an attempt to paint all advocates of the distinction (not advocates of equity feminism, but of *the distinction itself*) as misogynists. According to the wiki article, this includes Stephen Pinker and the Routledge International Encyclopedia of Women, as well as many others. And yet, he tries to paint the distinction as something very much on the fringe. It's like a fantasy author saying "who gives a shit what Tor Books thinks?". Fuck PZ.

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Post by cunt » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:10 pm

PZ Myers
They did surprise me, though. They started talking about the two kinds of feminists, and oh no, I thought, here comes that boring anti-feminist crap peddled by Christina Hoff Sommers and happily swallowed by every MRA on the planet, that there are gender feminists and equity feminists. But no! I guess there is a lower level you can reach.
Their distinction was between cute feminists and ugly feminists.
I’d like to say we were done there, but they also go on to blame gays and feminists for the decline of western civilization. They’d get along just fine with a few atheists I know.
That's nice Peezus. Glad your getting back to picking on your intellectual equals. Hey, maybe leave out the sly insinuatiion next time and we won't even make fun. Scouts honour, cupcake.

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Post by Metalogic42 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:12 pm

Pitchguest wrote:
another lurker wrote:Tigzy, I checked out that thunderdome link

Irony meter overload!


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24 January 2013 at 7:11 pm (UTC -6)

LykeX:

I wonder if anybody has any thoughts on matters like whether there is a real danger of getting over-sensitive about language?

Yeah, I think there are concerns. Personally, I don’t have a problem with the use of crazy, however, there is no denying that no matter the context, crazy in love, crazy about cars, etc., that it implies a feeling and mental state which is seriously out of bounds.

As for some people who advocate the reclaiming of certain words, I sympathise. I really do. I use queer and bitch myself, in private, with a specific set of friends, who use those words in a reclaiming way. However, the larger problem is when you get an atmosphere like this blog, which gets millions of hits and readers per day. Someone out there is going to incur damage from the casual slinging of thoughtless slurs. The price is simply too high. We have worked long and hard, for years, to make Pharyngula a safe place for all people.


Yeah, it's a safe place for all people, required they let the horde think for them!

And MILLIONS of hits per day, really?
"I do use queer and bitch myself, in private, with a specific set of firends, who use those words in a reclaiming way."

Wow. Also, in a "reclaiming way"? Pffthahahaha. :lol:
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Post by debaser71 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:12 pm

"70%/30% – Bad experience with A SECULAR group, A SECULAR person, or SECULAR event
100%/0% – Can’t get over my conditioning that religion is good and secularism is bad
67%/33% – Health issues
65%/35% – Lack of childcare AT SECULAR EVENTS"

There, free of charge, I fixed one of your vague questions.

That survey is so stupid that I can't believe people could be that inept. I'm calling full on purposefulness here. Liars.

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Post by Mark Neil » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:12 pm

Metalogic42 wrote:
PZ Myers wrote:They started talking about the two kinds of feminists, and oh no, I thought, here comes that boring anti-feminist crap peddled by Christina Hoff Sommers and happily swallowed by every MRA on the planet, that there are gender feminists and equity feminists.
Tim Minchin wrote:Does the idea that one afternoon on Wiki-fucking-pedia might enlighten you, frighten you?
So PZ, one of the many who uses "feminism is not a monolith" to shirk responsability, is upset when people accept feminism isn't a monolith and identifies different brands of feminism?

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Post by Dick Strawkins » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:13 pm

LMU wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:
PZ Myers wrote:They started talking about the two kinds of feminists, and oh no, I thought, here comes that boring anti-feminist crap peddled by Christina Hoff Sommers and happily swallowed by every MRA on the planet, that there are gender feminists and equity feminists.
Tim Minchin wrote:Does the idea that one afternoon on Wiki-fucking-pedia might enlighten you, frighten you?
To be fair, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equity_feminism makes it appear that Sommers was the first to make that specific distinction, so PZ might just be disagreeing with her. It would actually be useful (as opposed to pointlessly divisive) if he could explain why though.
I think it is worth asking yourself the question whether mainstream feminists recognize an equity/gender division?
It is my impression that the equity/gender terms are almost exclusively used by those who are outside mainstream feminism. There are certainly divisions but I don't think that feminists look at it in gender/equity terms.
For example, the biggest fights amongst feminists have centered on pornography/sex work - with probably the majority of mainstream feminists being against pornography and sex work, which they see as exploitative and degrading to women.
I tend to find that feminists deny, point blank, that there is any divisions - it is all one unified ideology - and yet when you point out the radfems such as this bunch,
http://radicalhub.com/radfem-101/
you get the apologetics about the radfems being extremists who aren't really feminists anyway. :hand:

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Post by Pitchguest » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:15 pm

Metalogic42 wrote:
Pitchguest wrote:
another lurker wrote:Tigzy, I checked out that thunderdome link

Irony meter overload!


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24 January 2013 at 7:11 pm (UTC -6)

LykeX:

I wonder if anybody has any thoughts on matters like whether there is a real danger of getting over-sensitive about language?

Yeah, I think there are concerns. Personally, I don’t have a problem with the use of crazy, however, there is no denying that no matter the context, crazy in love, crazy about cars, etc., that it implies a feeling and mental state which is seriously out of bounds.

As for some people who advocate the reclaiming of certain words, I sympathise. I really do. I use queer and bitch myself, in private, with a specific set of friends, who use those words in a reclaiming way. However, the larger problem is when you get an atmosphere like this blog, which gets millions of hits and readers per day. Someone out there is going to incur damage from the casual slinging of thoughtless slurs. The price is simply too high. We have worked long and hard, for years, to make Pharyngula a safe place for all people.


Yeah, it's a safe place for all people, required they let the horde think for them!

And MILLIONS of hits per day, really?
"I do use queer and bitch myself, in private, with a specific set of firends, who use those words in a reclaiming way."

Wow. Also, in a "reclaiming way"? Pffthahahaha. :lol:
http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk32 ... ndal-1.jpg
Hahahahahaha

"Don't worry, I'm taking it back."

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Post by nippletwister » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:34 pm

decius wrote:Who asked for a crank site?

Check this one out.

http://gagutofappit.org/

uh.....gag u to fapp it?

Is it really that bad? Like scaly skin, open sores, or a rotten smell?

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Post by AndrewV69 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:45 pm

email from Natalie:

(I redacted some details)
Btw, while I'm very appreciative that many of the Slymepitters have been supportive, could you pass along that I'm rather uncomfortable with them using me as a device to shame Greta and Avicenna's requests for donations? Both of them had very legitimate needs too -Greta's cancer-related expenses (she doesn't have the benefit of Canadian healthcare, after all, and is freelancing now so, like most writers and artists, doesn't have insurance through employment), and Avi's laptop to help with work (its much-needed medical charity work, too!).

Also, at this point, the generosity I've received from my readers has already pretty much met all my immediate needs-

[redacted details]

I also tend to feel really really weird, just on an ethical level, when donations exceed my needs, so I took the tip jar down for now, just so I don't end up crossing that point. I've also turned down offers from co-bloggers to promote it, and when PZ put up a request on Pharyngula I asked him to take it down, again because I didn't want it to become more of a "big deal" than it needed to be, and I didn't want to receive more than I actually needed.

So... yeah, if you could just pass on the word that a) the generosity from my readers has already been really really great, and I've already got much more than I expected and just about as much as I need for the things I mentioned, and b) I'm uncomfortable with being involved in any conflicts, or attempts to paint Greta or Avicenna's financial needs as illegitimate or dishonest.

And pass on my thanks as well! I appreciate that despite overall animosity or differences, y'all have been kind about this, and I appreciate how the atheist/skeptic community is one that does a really great job of supporting its own when in need. It's a great counter-argument to the Christian claim that religion is necessary for community and charity. Unbelievers tend to do a pretty great job at charity, actually! :)
I am also going to suggest she register and post herself if she wishes to respond further.

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Post by Wonderist » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:57 pm

Here's a direct link to the American Secular Census. If we'd like to ensure that the data is as representative as possible wrt the diversity of secular Americans, everyone should share this link all over the web. Facebook, Twitter, websites, blogs, etc. The more people respond from different places and contexts, the more representative the survey will be, and the less likely that any particular bias will become entrenched in the stats. Do it for this cute kid who will have to grow up in whatever world we leave behind us! :-)
http://www.secularcensus.us/sites/defau ... hild_0.png

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Post by bhoytony » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:11 pm

Well I was lolling on the couch drinking a bottle of red, so I decided to have a look a Iron Sky to pass a little time. Very entertaining I thought, but a little bit knowing, giving the wink that it wasn't taking itself seriously. I always think that if you're going to make a ridiculous film you might as well play it straight down the line.
One of my favourites is Brotherhood Of The Wolf (Le Pacte des Loups), completely ridiculous and fantastic. Set in pre-revolutionary France it has a mysterious werewolf type creature, kung fu fighting red indians (I used that description in case half-fish is reading this), secret cults, Vatican spies, royal conspiracies and a naked Monica Bellucci. It's all done with a straight face and without a hint of irony, it's great. Highly recommended, but make sure you see the original French language version with subtitles (sorry Septics, I know you don't like those). I once came across the English dubbed copy and it was fucking awful.

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Post by Tristan » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:16 pm

Metalogic42 wrote:Ha, I just noticed this in Ophelia's cloud tag:

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/bw0trqC.jpg[/spoiler]
I take it the word cloud algorithm filters out naughty words? I would have expected "cunt" to make a pretty solid showing.

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Post by BarnOwl » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:17 pm

Pentacostals are strict biblical literalists. It took a few seconds to find the biblical "justifications" for the long skirts, on wiki answer:
Deuteronomy 22:5 states "a woman shall not wear that which pertaineth (relates) to a man, neither shall a man wear a woman's garment, for all that do so are abomination to the Lord thy God." Abomination means "extreme disgust, hatred or loathing." God feels this strongly about the way we dress because he cares about the way we dress. hate is a very strong word. Nobody wants to do anything that God would hate. Pants definitely relate to men. You go to the bathroom, you look at the figures on the sign to see which one to go into. If you're a woman, you go to the one with a dress. If you're a man, you go to the one with the pants.
Isaiah says that if you show your thigh, you show your nakedness. Your thigh begins in the middle of your knee, so obviously, we should be wearing skirts to cover our knees. Of course, when we sit down, it can't show our knee then either.
1 Corinthians says that a woman is not to cut her hair, therefore, we do not put any sharp object to our hair, it is our glory. That means not even a trim.
1 Corinthians also states that if a man has long hair, it is a shame. Therefore, the men keep their hair short.
Ophelia and her commenters seem baffled by the "rationale" or want to attribute the modern Pentacostal female dress code to deliberate ongoing patriarchal oppression. No denying that the Bible reflects a patriarchal society and ancient oppression of women, but Pentecostal girls wearing long skirts nowadays is pretty much goofy garden variety biblical literalism.

I prefer wearing skirts, especially the lightweight cotton ones my mom made for me, when the weather is hot (9 months out of the year here). Lightweight cotton T-shirt + skirt + sandals = happy BarnOwl.

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Post by AndrewV69 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:17 pm

bhoytony wrote: One of my favourites is Brotherhood Of The Wolf (Le Pacte des Loups), completely ridiculous and fantastic. Set in pre-revolutionary France it has a mysterious werewolf type creature, kung fu fighting red indians (I used that description in case half-fish is reading this), secret cults, Vatican spies, royal conspiracies and a naked Monica Bellucci. It's all done with a straight face and without a hint of irony, it's great. Highly recommended, but make sure you see the original French language version with subtitles (sorry Septics, I know you don't like those). I once came across the English dubbed copy and it was fucking awful.
I have seen this also. Completely agree. Two thumbs up.

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Post by cunt » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:18 pm

Wonderist wrote:Here's a direct link to the American Secular Census. If we'd like to ensure that the data is as representative as possible wrt the diversity of secular Americans, everyone should share this link all over the web. Facebook, Twitter, websites, blogs, etc. The more people respond from different places and contexts, the more representative the survey will be, and the less likely that any particular bias will become entrenched in the stats. Do it for this cute kid who will have to grow up in whatever world we leave behind us! :-)
http://www.secularcensus.us/sites/defau ... hild_0.png
I think i'd rather share old youtube songs.

[youtube]gAYL5H46QnQ[/youtube]

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Post by debaser71 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:24 pm

That secularcensus website's design is a dead giveaway to who they are trying to attract....pastel color scheme, big pictures, colorful links to social network crap. Sorry but it's highly feminized. Not that that is bad. It's just like the opposite of dark colors, with fire, skulls, and explosions. And no, I'm registering just to take a poorly worded survey written by people with an axe to grind.

(hey this us vs them stuff is fun!)

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Post by DeepInsideYourMind » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:31 pm

Personal anecdotal observed opinion:

Most of the Athiesm+ movement is American

Most of the anti-A+ sentiment is expressed outside the USA

The US is a very special place, often special as belonging on a very short bus ....

Discuss....

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Post by Tony Parsehole » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:34 pm

cunt wrote:
I think i'd rather share old youtube songs.

[youtube]gAYL5H46QnQ[/youtube]
I'll have some of that.
[youtube]0RpdPzJgaBw[/youtube]

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Post by Lsuoma » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:36 pm

VickyCaramel wrote:
khyber.jpg
"so damn inhibiting"
The Devils in Skirts!

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Post by bhoytony » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:40 pm

AndrewV69 wrote:
I have seen this also. Completely agree. Two thumbs up.
[youtube]D7DTv2uBA7I[/youtube]

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Post by Mykeru » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:41 pm

DeepInsideYourMind wrote:Personal anecdotal observed opinion:
Go for it, cupcake
Most of the Athiesm+ movement is American
Maybe.
Most of the anti-A+ sentiment is expressed outside the USA
Maybe not.
The US is a very special place, often special as belonging on a very short bus ....
Aren't you cute.
Discuss....
Done in one.

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Post by cunt » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:41 pm

Beauty and the Beat: The Jen McReight story

[youtube]B0Rau01wbeo[/youtube]

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