A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Papio

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Re: A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Pap

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Tigzy wrote:Somewhere, out there, is a Pharyngula post which has the full deck of nastiness: insert porcupine plus rusty knife, die in a fire, jump off a bridge, and all done both slowly and sideways.

Such emphatic, caring people. Do they not think that any people reading their shite might have been victims of violence themselves? Or have tried self-harming or attempted suicide? Been horrifically burned? Had a loved one commit suicide?

Seems splash damage is fine if what you're splashing around is petrol...
Let's hope poor Michael Nugent never sees this section of the slymepit.
Remember what he said about those pisspoor examples on his previous list.
I have to say that I am very disturbed by the extent of the vitriol conveyed in some of the comments on The Slymepit website. I honestly had no idea how bad it was until I compiled the above list. And I had to take several long breaks while compiling it, because the content is so intensely hurtful.
I'm sensing tears of rage.

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Re: A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Pap

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Speaking of 'tears of rage' - Josh 'Spokegay' Slocum, who first coined the phrase over his commiserative hurt at $urly Amy crying over Harriet Hall's T-shirt, has yet more vileness to offer. In all honesty, I'm beginning to wonder if a more remarkable thread wouldn't be one dedicated to Josh saying things that were indicative of him being a decent human being:

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Re: A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Pap

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Judging by the comments here, there are other researchers out there who've taken an interest in the unusual habits of these creatures:
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Re: A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Pap

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'Feminist-friendly PZ Myers' :lol:

I look forward to the day Mizz Sara Wofford stumbles upon that Skepticon 3 video, where Myers invites a woman up to the stage and proceeds to make lewd jokes at her.

'Oh...'

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Re: A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Pap

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Tigzy wrote:'Feminist-friendly PZ Myers' :lol:

I look forward to the day Mizz Sara Wofford stumbles upon that Skepticon 3 video, where Myers invites a woman up to the stage and proceeds to make lewd jokes at her.

'Oh...'
He was accused of sexual harrassment at that conference by a prominent atheist feminist.
[youtube]BcFH1ObcdOY[/youtube]

New anti-harrassment policy rule?

Rule 17b: No card games with PZ Myers will be permitted in conference premises.

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Re: A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Pap

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PZ Myersogynist live on stage.

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Re: A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Pap

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Recently, I have had certain baboons state to me, most reasonably and eloquently of course, that the 'die in a fire' thing is actually kinda harmless, and can be dismissed because it was once an internet meme somewhere (In which case, Mizz Ellenbeth Wach's inadvertent Goatseing of Michael Nugent's blog should offer no great cause for complaint, least of all from the radiant Mizz Wachs herself. Still fuckin funny, though). In other words - such abuses should not be taken emphatically. Not even when Wowbagger and Josh Spokesgay - as we've seen in the examples above - do emphasise that they really, honestly do mean it, because...well, intent, magic, that sorta thing, I guess.

And furthermore, it's not even meant to be taken emphatically when someone both as unhinged and thick (always a volatile combination) as Janine, Hallucinating Liar/History's Greatest Monster/Angry Derp Amoeba suggests it:
You'll note that this is the second reference to 'Lion' here. For those not quite so versed in the beguiling history of atheist/skeptic forums on the internet, Lion IRC (the chap Janine wishes would burn to death here) is a long-time crusader for bringing the religious side of the internets to us unwashed atheist folk. He's a minor nuisance, it has to be said - but in general, he seems a harmless enough old duffer. A bit overly focussed on the windmill he's particular about tilting at, perhaps, and he's been at it for fuckin ages, too. The better part of me almost wishes that there was a god, so that Lion's efforts don't turn out to be in vain; there's a kind of bleak nobility to such ludicrous determination, after all. And if Lion himself should have turned out to be correct, then I would hope even the devil himself might have humour enough to allow the poor roasting souls such as myself the pleasure of hearing Lion IRC reach the gates of heaven, whereupon he might offer as his call to paradise: "Lord, I spent decades serving you upon the internet, and I didn't even once look at the porn."

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Re: A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Pap

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Often, you'll hear a Pharyngula baboon make much noise about being 'empathic'; about how Peezee's place is 'a safe space for the marginalised, the oppressed, women and semi-deranged oddities such as Nerd of Redhead'. Well, okay, I made the last bit up - though in fairness to the Pharyngumob, I think it speaks of some worthiness on their part that they can grit their teeth and put up with the relentless effusions of this self-parroting imbecile - and I say 'effusions' rather than 'effluvia' deliberately, because shit can at least have some uses when it comes to fertilising the soil so that nice things can grow in it. Nerd's demented sputterings offer no such potential for anything to flourish. It's probably similar to what would result should a vacuum ever acquire an attitude.

But anyways - back to the topic in hand: The Pharyngubabs self-vaunted qualities of empathy, and how their space on the internetz is a safe one. Especially for people like Susan here:
Susan

26 March 2013 at 10:05 pm (UTC -5)

Hi. I posted a couple of times on other threads, but no one knows me yet, so I thought I’d introduce myself here. I have been following Pharyngula for years, read most of the comments, and check it out several times a day. I feel at “home” here even though I have mainly lurked. I feel at home because it’s a safe place for women and people with mental illness, like me. I feel at home because nasty people aren’t tolerated and almost everyone is tolerant and supportive. I live in New Mexico, married 27 years, have three dogs and two cats, love the desert, and am glad spring is finally here.

I am bipolar, and have been in a “mixed state” for most of last year and this, so far, because of the endless stress I have been under with my writing schedule (I’m a novelist.) I set my book deadlines too close together in an effort to bring in more regular advances when I was dumped by my last publisher and lost 3/4 of my income. I know we will never catch up on our considerable debt (in part caused by my bipolar illness and overspending, under control now, a bit too late) and this is very depressing … no retirement, no other assets. I know people here are much worse off than we are, though, including many who comment here.

. I’m seeing a therapist, but some days I feel like a failure, utterly hopeless, and just want to stop feeling. I’ve been in a “behavioral health center” (mental hospital) which was not extremely unpleasant and utterly useless. If only they’d know about bipolar disorder in kids when I was younger (I’m 54) I would probably have avoided many of the difficulties I face now.

The past couple of days have been horrible, mainly related to my writing. I haven’t had a real weekend off in months and months (I have to write 7 days a week), but will get a full 2 weeks off starting next week. I will be using it to plan a novel I want to write … which I will finish before I attempt to sell it. I feel positive about this ,but we are going to be in a difficult financial situation toward the end of this year.

I will try to keep up with the lounge threads and get to know all of you better. Sorry this has been so long!

Sue
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A tentative early post from Susan, then. And though a few Pharyngulites respond with greetings, some do wonder if she might be a troll or a sock.

In fairness, it must be said that at the time of writing, Pharyngula had seen a recent influx of trollish commentators, so it's understandable that their hackles might be up a bit (though these being baboons, perhaps 'inflamed red arses' might be more appropriate. Certainly apt for the likes of Setar and Janine, if nothing else). However, one must remember - these baboons strive to be a lot more empathic than most unwashed folk; and they frequently maintain that their habitat is a safe space for the marginalised, the oppressed, women and Nerd of Redhead (sorry)

One would therefore think that a woman suffering such problems unassociated with those privileged neurotypicals might be given the benefit of the doubt here; that yes, she could indeed be a troll or a sock, but in being in a 'safe space' filled with such 'empathic' individuals, that said individuals might at least err on the side of caution and not be too quick in going full...er, 'horde' on her.

Enter Improbable Joe, longstanding FTB and Pharyngula commentator, and a guitarist afflicted with the rare distinction of being able to make a drummer look clever by comparison:
I know - WTF, right? A woman, claiming to feel vulnerable, and IJoe decides to enuniciate on his suspicions about her by bringing up the subject of...really, really sharp knives. For some reason.

A 'safe space in the internet', populated by people who strive to be more 'empathic'. Remember that.

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Re: A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Pap

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Another death fantasy from Josh, Official Nasty Cunt. Not sure, is it Josh or Tony who works with cadavers.

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Go take a nap in a bag of asps Wilford

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-636856 Wilford

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Re: A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Pap

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19 January 2014 at 2:08 pm (UTC -6)
For now though he [Caleb Hannan] doesn’t want to talk to reporters. He values his privacy. Mysteriously, strangely, oddly, he just wants to be left alone.
Now I want to hurt someone.
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Re: A collection of threat displays typical of the genus Pap

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Taken partly form a previously mentioned instance, with a longer explanation I found...

Stephanie Zvan on “shock tactics”

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Stephanie Zvan wrote:
…I think it’s possible to do shock without being rude.
I think it is impossible to shock without being considered rude. Sure, one doesn’t have to engage in behavior that is widely considered rude in order to shock, but if one shocks people, whatever one did to generate the change in perspective will be considered rude by someone.

One can be blunt–and be chided for strong-arm tactics. One can be funny–and be chastised for making light of something serious. One can be very open and honest about personal experience–and be called on the carpet for bringing everyone down.

People don’t like having their mental worlds rearranged. Even if most would point to some trivial aspect of the communication as being rude, that’s a distraction. What they’re really objecting to is being told they need to rethink their cherished positions. There’s no way to escape the accusation of rudeness and still expose hidden truths.
Stephanie Zvan wrote:caia, “Becky” has been done. Telling her that something is unacceptable has been done many times. Many, many things have been done. I’m not telling you that you need to like the shock tactics. He could, after all, have banned her instead of giving her the opportunity to learn something. I am telling you that understanding the context is important.


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