Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

#11461

Speaking of Melissa McEwan/Shakesville - has anyone seen her Encylopedia Dramatica entry yet? It's very, very mean, but I certainly did LOL.

#11462

I have to say, going against the majority view here, but I don't give a shit what happens to Adria and have no pity for her.

#11463

Corylus wrote:
Wonderist wrote:
I hope this didn't come off as dismissive of your feedback. I certainly do appreciate it. But aside from self-censorship, I don't have enough specifics to know what changes I could make that would satisfy your 'bristling'. I welcome any further negative feedback, though, especially if it has something specific to go on, like a quote.
My feedback is neither positive or negative - just hopefully helpful. I read you a little while back talking about developing the term 'foundationalism'. As I am sure you know, this will make many people assume that you are getting all technical about epistemology.

Actually, when I heard him mention Foundationalism, I thought he and his group would soon be going underground and we wouldn't hear about them again until after the galactic culture starts to recover from the collapse with their help... but then maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. I think I read them in the 70s.

#11464

Dilurk wrote:Now she's stepped in it.
Sm1aUjzVz00

That's interesting. I notice they mentioned the code of conduct had been changed because of these events. And sure enough, it had - they have the old and new code of conduct available (the new one is under source code style control). The part of the code about attendees reporting incidents:

Old PyCon Code wrote:2.Report the harassment incident (preferably in writing) to a conference staff member - all reports are confidential.

Now reads:

New PyCon Code wrote:2. 2.Report the harassment incident (preferably in writing) to a conference staff member. All reports are confidential. Please do not disclose public information about the incident until the staff have had sufficient time in which to address the situation. This is as much for your safety and protection as it is the other attendees.

So does PeeZus now accept that twitter is not a suitable method of incident reporting for the future, or does he think does he prefer to pick and choose which parts of harassment policies that he agrees with, and ignore those he doesn't?

#11465

Tigzy wrote:Speaking of Melissa McEwan/Shakesville - has anyone seen her Encylopedia Dramatica entry yet? It's very, very mean, but I certainly did LOL.

Link, you cunt. :x

#11466

welch wrote:apropos of nothing, my part of an IM convo where I was able, finally, to properly articulate why only focusing on women as rape/sexual assault victims is bad, because my friend was about to be rather upset as it was almost coming out as WHAT ABOUT TEH MENZ, and I really didn't want her to think it was just that. I wanted, because this is a good friend, to really explain this correctly, so maybe she could see *why* it's important to not arbitrarily deny that men are affected by this as victims too. (this is all my side):

... snip good stuff, original here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=266&start=10950#p78373 ...
She seemed to get it, so at least once, it worked.

Kudos, welch. Takes a bit of extra time, but nicely done. Endless arguments take time too.

#11467

Dude Bros. http://redlettermedia.com/shorts/the-du ... sodes-1-3/

Also, I hate the #bravehero logo. I'm always disappointed that I can't scratch his head to see if I won something.

#11468

Jack wrote:
Dilurk wrote:Now she's stepped in it. [youtube]Sm1aUjzVz00[/youtube]
I hope she will be left alone to get on with her life.

I actually don't.

#11469

re: donglegate
I don't mind that Adria tweeted as long as she didn't post the pic or identify the guys where they can't defend themselves. She can post her offense at meaningless jokes as much as she wants and we can just laugh. Who also should have mostly just laughed is the boss of the guy who made the dongle joke. Why hasn't that company been the target of anon since it was all just lolworthy until somebody added ott consequences?

Ok, so the women getting all the attention in the last bit... Ellenbeth due to the horde dumping on her, the donglegate tweeter for getting martyred, the feminist in the blog war with peezus, melody before that... this all has to be seriously burning RW's ass that women are being talked about and it's not her. I wonder what she's going to pull this week.

#11470

rayshul wrote:
Tigzy wrote:Speaking of Melissa McEwan/Shakesville - has anyone seen her Encylopedia Dramatica entry yet? It's very, very mean, but I certainly did LOL.
Link, you cunt. :x

Oh, sorry.

http://you-cunt.com/

#11471

JAB wrote:
... but then maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. I think I read them in the 70s.

Yep - that's pretty old!

I wasn't even the proverbial twinkle in my father's eye for some of the seventies - and somewhat incapable of tackling Asimov for the rest of 'em.

Sorry, dude :D

#11472

Corylus wrote:
JAB wrote:
... but then maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. I think I read them in the 70s.
Yep - that's pretty old!

I wasn't even the proverbial twinkle in my father's eye for some of the seventies - and somewhat incapable of tackling Asimov for the rest of 'em.

Sorry, dude :D

Yeah, I'm even too old to be a submariner.

#11473

Sulaco wrote:Dude Bros. http://redlettermedia.com/shorts/the-du ... sodes-1-3/

Also, I hate the #bravehero logo. I'm always disappointed that I can't scratch his head to see if I won something.

Reminds me of when I was fucking some Indian chick, and the spot on her forehead really bothered, so I wiped it off, only to find I'd won a Ford Focus!

#11474

JAB wrote:... this all has to be seriously burning RW's ass that women are being talked about and it's not her. I wonder what she's going to pull this week.

Aside from bottle-openers and can-rings, that is...

#11475

Tigzy wrote:
rayshul wrote:
Tigzy wrote:Speaking of Melissa McEwan/Shakesville - has anyone seen her Encylopedia Dramatica entry yet? It's very, very mean, but I certainly did LOL.
Link, you cunt. :x
Oh, sorry.

http://you-cunt.com/

I'm tempted to click that link.

#11476

Dilurk wrote:
Guest wrote:You guys read this yet? Melissa McEwan made a list of "refutations" to arguments against Adria Richards, and they are hilarious.

http://www.shakesville.com/2013/03/a-fe ... qus_thread

I particularly like #3, where she basically says that Richards shouldn't have to go to the conference organizers because that would mean having to miss the presentation. Couldn't she have just gone to them afterwards?
She had twitter in the audience on her phone. Could she not have sent a text to the organisers ?

She could have sent the tweets to the conf. organizers via twitter without the fucking picture.

#11477

rayshul wrote: I'm tempted to click that link.

Aw, okay...

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Shakesville

#11478

Corylus wrote:
JAB wrote:
... but then maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. I think I read them in the 70s.
Yep - that's pretty old!

I wasn't even the proverbial twinkle in my father's eye for some of the seventies - and somewhat incapable of tackling Asimov for the rest of 'em.

Sorry, dude :D

I read them in the early '70s too (along with discovering HP Lovecraft), and I remember the cool covers which gave a neat panoramic picture when you put all three together - there were only three then.

http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/foundation.jpg

#11479

Ooh, purdy!

#11480

Corylus wrote:
JAB wrote:
... but then maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. I think I read them in the 70s.
Yep - that's pretty old!

I wasn't even the proverbial twinkle in my father's eye for some of the seventies - and somewhat incapable of tackling Asimov for the rest of 'em.

Sorry, dude :D

They were required reading in my high school. The kicker? It was a private Christian school.

#11481

Oh, and this was the cover to the HP Lovecraft - 'twas "At the Mountains of Madness":

http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/amom.jpg

See it had an endorsement from The Sun on the back cover - that was WAY before Murdoch fucked it all to fuckery...

#11482

Wonderist wrote:
welch wrote:apropos of nothing, my part of an IM convo where I was able, finally, to properly articulate why only focusing on women as rape/sexual assault victims is bad, because my friend was about to be rather upset as it was almost coming out as WHAT ABOUT TEH MENZ, and I really didn't want her to think it was just that. I wanted, because this is a good friend, to really explain this correctly, so maybe she could see *why* it's important to not arbitrarily deny that men are affected by this as victims too. (this is all my side):

... snip good stuff, original here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=266&start=10950#p78373 ...
She seemed to get it, so at least once, it worked.
Kudos, welch. Takes a bit of extra time, but nicely done. Endless arguments take time too.

I think sometimes telling someone "hold on, let me say this how it actually is in my head, THEN tell me what you think" can solve a lot of problems. moving TOO fast is not always the best idear.

#11483

Lsuoma wrote:
Corylus wrote:
JAB wrote:
... but then maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. I think I read them in the 70s.
Yep - that's pretty old!

I wasn't even the proverbial twinkle in my father's eye for some of the seventies - and somewhat incapable of tackling Asimov for the rest of 'em.

Sorry, dude :D
I read them in the early '70s too (along with discovering HP Lovecraft), and I remember the cool covers which gave a neat panoramic picture when you put all three together - there were only three then.

[img http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/foundation.jpg /img]

Yes of course I have read the trilogy. The big three, all gone now. Asimov, Clarke and Heinlein.

#11484

Tigzy wrote:
rayshul wrote: I'm tempted to click that link.
Aw, okay...

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Shakesville

Thank ye... and that's why I couldn't find it, I was poking about in the way back machine.

#11485

rayshul wrote:
Tigzy wrote:
rayshul wrote: I'm tempted to click that link.
Aw, okay...

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Shakesville
Thank ye... and that's why I couldn't find it, I was poking about in the way back machine.

I'm re-reading the BitingBeaver entry. It is one of the funniest things on the internets.

#11486

Gefan wrote:From afar, Kim Kong Un observes "Donglegate"...

http://anony.ws/i/2013/03/21/oBeEx.gif

Oh God, after all those years, a little bit of Willie Coyote still makes me laugh.

#11487

Today in fat hatred = much like Andrea Dworkin's book Woman Hating is not about hating women, but about a crazy woman named Andrea hating everybody around her, Today in fat hatred is not about hatred towards obese people, but about fat cunt named Melissa hating somebody.

Fucking LOL

#11488

Dilurk wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
Corylus wrote:
JAB wrote:
... but then maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. I think I read them in the 70s.
Yep - that's pretty old!

I wasn't even the proverbial twinkle in my father's eye for some of the seventies - and somewhat incapable of tackling Asimov for the rest of 'em.

Sorry, dude :D
I read them in the early '70s too (along with discovering HP Lovecraft), and I remember the cool covers which gave a neat panoramic picture when you put all three together - there were only three then.

[img http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/foundation.jpg /img]
Yes of course I have read the trilogy. The big three, all gone now. Asimov, Clarke and Heinlein.

I tried, but fuck Asimov. Him and Herbert couldn't tell you "hello" in under 400 pages.

Clarke and Ellison, they got in, got done, and got the fuck out.

#11489

I would say - judging feminism based on Melissa McEwan is like judging black people based on the homeless guy that stole your lawnmower.

#11490

Wonderist wrote:Okay, finally back to 'catching up' at Nugent's.

Gah! I just realized Nugent's put up two more posts. No chance of actually catching up. None.

So, I won't be doing the 'catch up first' thing, which JG, Apples, and others will be glad to hear. Also, I'm starting to get more long-term motivation to get a wiki up and running. (This is not typical for me, usually motivation comes and goes somewhat randomly. But when the same need pops up over and over, like atheism v. religion, it can build into a long-term thing, which is good. The wiki thing is definitely a good long-term need I think.) So, no need to get everything all commented on at once. Can gather things over time.

What's the general consensus on wiki software/sites these days? I've tried wikispaces (a mostly-free wiki site), which has very nice UI, but a bit simplistic in terms of wiki power features. And tried mediawiki (Wikipedia's software, free but needs hosting), which is pretty much the opposite, very powerful, more simplistic UI. Anything out there that's a bit of both? I haven't looked into it for about a year now.

#11491

EdwardGemmer wrote:I would say - judging feminism based on Melissa McEwan is like judging black people based on the homeless guy that stole your lawnmower.

I'm just wondering why a homeless guy would want my lawnmower.

#11492

welch wrote:
Dilurk wrote:
Yes of course I have read the trilogy. The big three, all gone now. Asimov, Clarke and Heinlein.
I tried, but fuck Asimov. Him and Herbert couldn't tell you "hello" in under 400 pages.

Clarke and Ellison, they got in, got done, and got the fuck out.

Only one listed that I ever found readable was Clarke. If any of them paved the way for Kim Stanley Robinson though, then they're all right by me. The sheer breadth of learning in The Mars Trilogy was breathtaking.

#11493

EdwardGemmer wrote:I would say - judging feminism based on Melissa McEwan is like judging black people based on the homeless guy that stole your lawnmower.

except that civil rights leaders don't link approvingly to homeless lawnmower thief's blog.

#11494

JAB wrote:
EdwardGemmer wrote:I would say - judging feminism based on Melissa McEwan is like judging black people based on the homeless guy that stole your lawnmower.
I'm just wondering why a homeless guy would want my lawnmower.

Because he spent his savings on a shotgun.

#11495

JAB wrote:
EdwardGemmer wrote:I would say - judging feminism based on Melissa McEwan is like judging black people based on the homeless guy that stole your lawnmower.
I'm just wondering why a homeless guy would want my lawnmower.

NEVER QUESTION AN OPPRESSED MINORITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#11496

BannedAid wrote:
EdwardGemmer wrote:I would say - judging feminism based on Melissa McEwan is like judging black people based on the homeless guy that stole your lawnmower.
except that civil rights leaders don't link approvingly to homeless lawnmower thief's blog.

It's a privilege to have a blog. The homeless man doesn't have a computer, only your lawnmower, which doesn't even have wifi, you entitled white man.

#11497

EdwardGemmer wrote:
BannedAid wrote:
EdwardGemmer wrote:I would say - judging feminism based on Melissa McEwan is like judging black people based on the homeless guy that stole your lawnmower.
except that civil rights leaders don't link approvingly to homeless lawnmower thief's blog.
It's a privilege to have a blog. The homeless man doesn't have a computer, only your lawnmower, which doesn't even have wifi, you entitled white man.

You still make me laugh Edward. Just sayin'!

#11498

Anyone else seen the poop edition of the Harlem Shake?

You might want to be a little careful who else sees it. It might even gross YOU out: YOU have been warned...

#11499

And this is for Sarcastibitchian:

[youtube]JeXDNg7scyU[/youtube]

#11500

Another one from the archives!

http://forum.richarddawkins.net/viewtop ... &start=410

A. Noyd wrote:
Jon_Howard wrote: Oh yeah - point I missed. I directed my Uncle Mike towards your site this evening - and before you start sneering he's not the 'internet police' (ho ho ho) but just a secondary school science teacher. He checked it out and the first thing he asked was if you bothered to put-up any warnings at all that the responses following your blog entries were unmoderated for language and so on. HIs point was, if your site is such a good place to research current science, perhaps you (as a respected scientist, noted Prof and such) might have thought about at least younger visitors or people who might not like that.
Here's the thing, Jonny-Boy. The internet is grown-up land. It's not PZ's responsibility to keep kids from seeing words that other people think kids shouldn't see. Kids aren't hurt by seeing "fuck" and "shit" and "pussy" and "wanker," and they generally appreciate being considered mature enough to handle seeing those words. In fact, if people are serious about researching science (especially biology where you expect to talk about things like sex and death and excrement) they should, whatever their age, understand that swear words are just words. Again, it's the internet; if people need a fucking disclaimer everywhere they might see something upsetting, they shouldn't be online.

But what about the wimmenz?

#11501

Lsuoma wrote:Anyone else seen the poop edition of the Harlem Shake?

You might want to be a little careful who else sees it. It might even gross YOU out: YOU have been warned...

Dood! WTF?

http://harlemshakepoop.com/

I do not even ...

#11502

See if you can spot the "chill" girl?

[youtube]tKz4Olyy-HM[/youtube]

#11503

Percentage wrote:Peez actually has a pretty good post up, about the applications of philosophy to science:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ilosopher/

He's right. It's times like these that remind me that PZ is actually a PhD, a professor of biology, and basically an intelligent guy. Unfortunately posts like this have been drowned out in his daily dose of hysterical SJW horseshit. The guy should stick to what he knows.

I don't see where PZ is right in the least. This is about a scientific dispute, raised by scientists, that needs to be resolved by experiments to be performed by scientists. Philosophy has got nothing useful to add.

#11504

Ophie has a post on, you guessed it, Michael Shermer. This one is about her article in Free Inquiry (not online yet, but out in print apparently). You'd think she wouldn't want to be so open about her harassment of him.

#11505

JAB wrote:
EdwardGemmer wrote:I would say - judging feminism based on Melissa McEwan is like judging black people based on the homeless guy that stole your lawnmower.
I'm just wondering why a homeless guy would want my lawnmower.

Civic duty...giving some public-space grass a shave?

Or crack...sell it for $3 and buy a rock?

I am a bad person and I say bad things.

#11506

EdwardGemmer wrote:I would say - judging feminism based on Melissa McEwan is like judging black people based on the homeless guy that stole your lawnmower.

I agree, but you have to admit, they're running AWFULLY hard towards her right now.

#11507

John Brown wrote:I'm just going to leave this here:

http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-vi ... 2gfx0.html

Here are five reasons why feminists should try to eliminate meat:

1. Eating meat is associated with male power in its most vile and repugnant forms.
I think we are in a post Poe's Law world, ladies and gentlemen.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

#11508

Sexism, racism, and objectification on national TV. Dongle joke included. Where's the outrage, P.Z. Myers? This is sexist terrorism! Jesus Christ. This whole thing is dripping with white privilege. Where's the fucking outrage, FTB?

[youtube][/youtube]

#11509

John Brown wrote:Sexism, racism, and objectification on national TV. Dongle joke included. Where's the outrage, P.Z. Myers? This is sexist terrorism! Jesus Christ. This whole thing is dripping with white privilege. Where's the fucking outrage, FTB?

[youtube][/youtube]

Gah!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 1fXa9hTowY

#11510

We all know George Hrab, right? Close personal friend of Becky, etc. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago, he mentioned a friend of a friend's kids not immediately knowing who someone was referring to when asked about the "black kid". "But he's brown...?" or something like that. Anyway, Geo got a letter from a SJW about it. Color blindness = ERASING and RACISM and George is PRIVILEGED and blah blah blah. Geo tells him to stop listening to the show, and nobody else send me any of these stupid fucking letters about privilege.

I guess even Becky's friends get tired of this shit PDQ when it's thrown in their direction.

Guest666 · #11511

Wild Zontargs wrote:We all know George Hrab, right? Close personal friend of Becky, etc. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago, he mentioned a friend of a friend's kids not immediately knowing who someone was referring to when asked about the "black kid". "But he's brown...?" or something like that. Anyway, Geo got a letter from a SJW about it. Color blindness = ERASING and RACISM and George is PRIVILEGED and blah blah blah. Geo tells him to stop listening to the show, and nobody else send me any of these stupid fucking letters about privilege.

I guess even Becky's friends get tired of this shit PDQ when it's thrown in their direction.

To be fair to George Hrab, he has (pretty much) stayed out of the drama ever since it escalated with elevatorgate. Can't say I have seen or heard him talk about it at all really.

So I think it's unfair to lump Geo in with those SJW people like Becky's friends as you call it.

#11512

JAB wrote:
Corylus wrote:
JAB wrote:
... but then maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. I think I read them in the 70s.
Yep - that's pretty old!

I wasn't even the proverbial twinkle in my father's eye for some of the seventies - and somewhat incapable of tackling Asimov for the rest of 'em.

Sorry, dude :D
Yeah, I'm even too old to be a submariner.

Rocko, is that you in disguise?

#11513

welch wrote:
Dilurk wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
Corylus wrote:
JAB wrote:
... but then maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. I think I read them in the 70s.
Yep - that's pretty old!

I wasn't even the proverbial twinkle in my father's eye for some of the seventies - and somewhat incapable of tackling Asimov for the rest of 'em.

Sorry, dude :D
I read them in the early '70s too (along with discovering HP Lovecraft), and I remember the cool covers which gave a neat panoramic picture when you put all three together - there were only three then.

[img http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/foundation.jpg /img]
Yes of course I have read the trilogy. The big three, all gone now. Asimov, Clarke and Heinlein.
I tried, but fuck Asimov. Him and Herbert couldn't tell you "hello" in under 400 pages.

Clarke and Ellison, they got in, got done, and got the fuck out.

I don't know, welch. I,Robot was all short stories and was really good.

#11514

John Brown wrote:
John Brown wrote:Sexism, racism, and objectification on national TV. Dongle joke included. Where's the outrage, P.Z. Myers? This is sexist terrorism! Jesus Christ. This whole thing is dripping with white privilege. Where's the fucking outrage, FTB?

[youtube][/youtube]
Gah!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 1fXa9hTowY

That's OK I got it.

Objectification and Sexualization of a Visible Minority with a Double Entendre every five seconds.

Problem?

#11515

welch wrote:
Dilurk wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
Corylus wrote:
JAB wrote:
... but then maybe I'm the only one old enough to remember Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. I think I read them in the 70s.
Yep - that's pretty old!

I wasn't even the proverbial twinkle in my father's eye for some of the seventies - and somewhat incapable of tackling Asimov for the rest of 'em.

Sorry, dude :D
I read them in the early '70s too (along with discovering HP Lovecraft), and I remember the cool covers which gave a neat panoramic picture when you put all three together - there were only three then.

[img http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/foundation.jpg /img]
Yes of course I have read the trilogy. The big three, all gone now. Asimov, Clarke and Heinlein.
I tried, but fuck Asimov. Him and Herbert couldn't tell you "hello" in under 400 pages.

Clarke and Ellison, they got in, got done, and got the fuck out.

I hear you as far as Herbert is concerned, though I did love the first Dune book. I like his presentation of political maneuvering, all the subtext of what is said between characters.

But Asimov takes 400 pages to say hello? He made it through 500 years of galactic history in less than a thousand!

#11516

Meyers has done a little roundtable video with some FfTB people. It's on YouTube.

I genuinely don't think I have ever seen a single YT video, other than Meyers's, where the uploader has kept secret the number of views.

What a sad little cunt, desperate for the world to believe he is a bigshot within one of his "fields of expertise" (atheism and developmental biology), when he is actually a spent force in both. I am proud to be a part of this movement, which actively questions his claim to being relevant in either these days (if he ever was in science, seemingly having always been a teacher rather than a learner. A single postdoc Nature paper is not necessarily an indication of serious scientific input).

I guess he is terrified that we learn the true ~~length of his penis~~ strength of his horde.

#11517

welch wrote:
I tried, but fuck Asimov. Him and Herbert couldn't tell you "hello" in under 400 pages.

Clarke and Ellison, they got in, got done, and got the fuck out.

Asimov, longwinded?

You've never read him, have you?

#11518

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Meyers has done a little roundtable video with some FfTB people. It's on YouTube.

I genuinely don't think I have ever seen a single YT video, other than Meyers's, where the uploader has kept secret the number of views.

What a sad little cunt, desperate for the world to believe he is a bigshot within one of his "fields of expertise" (atheism and developmental biology), when he is actually a spent force in both. I am proud to be a part of this movement, which actively questions his claim to being relevant in either these days (if he ever was in science, seemingly having always been a teacher rather than a learner. A single postdoc Nature paper is not necessarily an indication of serious scientific input).

I guess he is terrified that we learn the true ~~length of his penis~~ strength of his horde.

(1)Recent? (2) Any good, or at minimum (3)any lulz? If yes to 2 or 3 link please.

#11519

Just watch for 5 seconds for Russell Glasser's deep insight into how to sway public opinion on gay marriage:

http://youtu.be/dsotmjBlt2U?t=20m49s

#11520

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Just watch for 5 seconds for Russell Glasser's deep insight into how to sway public opinion on gay marriage:

http://youtu.be/dsotmjBlt2U?t=20m49s

Ok, so not worth my time. Thanks Pecker.