LOL that's maiforpeace. She was the A+ mod who killfiled Kassiane in the wake of hugsgate. Kassiane managed to force her to resign from her mod position and, I believe, subsequently get banned from the forum.ButterCup wrote:Just saw this on the Freedom From Religion Foundation Facebook Group:
http://i.imgur.com/o8mhwZ3.png
:clap: :lol:Dick Strawkins wrote:Justin, what's the story with this picture?
http://d2oadd98wnjs7n.cloudfront.net/me ... 1369615713
Another important piece of information about the Irish conference is it's location:
It's being held in the same venue as the International Atheist convention of 2011.
Which means it's being held in the famous Elevatorgate hotel.
In other words Justin, if he's able to go, will be able to visit (and film and show the rest of us) the famous scenes of the crime, namely the hotel bar, and du-du-DUUUUUUUU!.....the notorious elevator!
Perhaps you could use that elevator as a means of raising money?
For example film yourself giving the "Don't take this the wrong way" speech there and name the sponsors. (" I find ---- very interesting and want to talk some more"
Probably best not to do this while Rebecca is in it. :shifty:
If that's the price its nuts. You can get good deals for a fraction of that near or in town. Someone needs to be a better negotiator.cunt wrote:$3500 for a three night stay in Dublin. :think:
True. Has anyone alienated more potential allies and done more damage to the brand than "The Happy :rimshot: Atheist?" He and his mob of maladjusted malcontents sour everything they touch.ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:One of the things that puts me off the man is that I never get a glimpse of any kind of personal warmth. Lots of sound and fury and utopian ideals, not a lot of humanity.Aneris wrote:PZ Myers on Russel Blackford. Its easy to overlook from a general internet forum perspective how extreme this actually is.
I presume the majority of the cost is for the high season plane flights rather than the hotel rooms and conference fee.Jack wrote:If that's the price its nuts. You can get good deals for a fraction of that near or in town. Someone needs to be a better negotiator.cunt wrote:$3500 for a three night stay in Dublin. :think:
I 100% agree with Metalogic42 here.Metalogic42 wrote:No offense meant to either you or your donor, but that seems like an extraordinarily large amount for something like this, and IMO would be much better spent in Oklahoma than Dublin. Also: wouldn't it be better for your own PR, atheism PR in general, and society, if you were to skip the conference altogether and go help tornado victims instead?justinvacula wrote:An anonymous donor just contributed - fundraiser is now at $1800 in a matter of minutes! The 'pit is strong! :o
It's your time, and their money, and you all can do whatever you want with it, it just seems like a waste to me.
Even though I agree in principle, you can't just collect money for X and then use it for Y, as noble as Y may seem.Gumby wrote:I 100% agree with Metalogic42 here.Metalogic42 wrote:No offense meant to either you or your donor, but that seems like an extraordinarily large amount for something like this, and IMO would be much better spent in Oklahoma than Dublin. Also: wouldn't it be better for your own PR, atheism PR in general, and society, if you were to skip the conference altogether and go help tornado victims instead?justinvacula wrote:An anonymous donor just contributed - fundraiser is now at $1800 in a matter of minutes! The 'pit is strong! :o
It's your time, and their money, and you all can do whatever you want with it, it just seems like a waste to me.
Once was fine, to make a point against the #FTBullies, at WiS2. But really, what did you do there that was so productive? What real insight was gained from your tweets and blog posts? What the hell would sending you to Dublin accomplish, other than "Hey, I got away with WiS2 and was only contemptuously ignored, so now I'm going to more women's conferences and there's nothing those women can do about it! Ha ha!" It wouldn't be about the Dublin conference, it would be about The Justin Vacula Show. No. Just no.
This seems seriously pointless and somewhat stalker-ish to me. And it makes you look like the self-involved narcissist that people on both sides of the schism have accused you of being.
There are MUCH better things you could do with the funds you have received, things that actually involve SOCAS or humanitarian causes.
You begging for large amounts of cash so you can be a gadfly and non-factor in yet another women's conference produces the exact same revulsion in me as when I read that Greta Christina had bought those fugly Fluevogs with that "cancer" money she begged from her readers.
For once, Justin, would you THINK instead of impulsive making these ill-considered leaps of illogic?
Agreed. Bad wording on my part. He should return the money and start more appropriate fundraisers.Aneris wrote: Even though I agree in principle, you can't just collect money for X and then use it for Y, as noble as Y may seem.
I met Christopher Hitchens in 2010!Dick Strawkins wrote:Justin, what's the story with this picture?
http://d2oadd98wnjs7n.cloudfront.net/me ... 1369615713
Another important piece of information about the Irish conference is it's location:
It's being held in the same venue as the International Atheist convention of 2011.
Which means it's being held in the famous Elevatorgate hotel.
In other words Justin, if he's able to go, will be able to visit (and film and show the rest of us) the famous scenes of the crime, namely the hotel bar, and du-du-DUUUUUUUU!.....the notorious elevator!
Perhaps you could use that elevator as a means of raising money?
For example film yourself giving the "Don't take this the wrong way" speech there and name the sponsors. (" I find ---- very interesting and want to talk some more"
Probably best not to do this while Rebecca is in it. :shifty:
Oh, it was so very productive: people got to talk about JV. Peole make blog posts about JV. People tweeted things about JV. JV even gotOnce was fine, to make a point against the #FTBullies, at WiS2. But really, what did you do there that was so productive?
Sometimes appearances are not misleading.This seems seriously pointless and somewhat stalker-ish to me. And it makes you look like the self-involved narcissist that people on both sides of the schism have accused you of being.
He's quite clearly aiming for about twice what the trip should cost. Still, never ascribe to malice. He probably just pulled the $3500 figure out his arse.FrankGrimes wrote:I'm more than happy with what Justin "hashtag" Vacula is doing, hence my donation.
We all know he's a brave hero but he can't do everything. Should we be pissed off at him because he's not in Africa at the moment helping the starving children too?
Also, I doubt he's aiming at getting to $160, 000. He doesn't come across as the kind of person that would rip people off.
The pressure needs to be kept on these people and better in be done in real life.
Of course Nugent wants to have his friends from the US at the conference, but it seems a poor choice when Irish women would like to attend, and can't afford the registration fee. Though if Nugent kept the speakers local, or even within Europe, he'd be criticized for failing to include the "prominent" American secularist feminists. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, I guess.Dick Strawkins wrote: I presume the majority of the cost is for the high season plane flights rather than the hotel rooms and conference fee.
On a more charitable note I saw that there were a few people visiting the Irish Atheists facebook site and lamenting the fact that they couldn't afford the conference cost.
Perhaps it might be a good gesture, if there is some overflow with the donations, to offer to sponsor one or two of them for the conference fee?
I guess it will have to be locals who can avail of that but it would highlight one issue that was raised on Nugents blog - namely the fact that there were lots of Irish women who wanted to attend but could not afford the fee - all the while Nugent was prepared to pay thousands of dollars to fly PZ Myers there, a man whose main contribution to women in secularism is in launching witchhunts of those that refuse to shut up and listen to the Patriarch of Pharyngula, of posting tentacle rape porn, promoting his friend's rape fantasy literature, and of making sexist comments live on stage at Skepticon3.
Oh yes, life-long feminist, wasn't it?
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26 May 2013 at 2:43 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I was going to link this from the cheap-suited thugs thread, but the link is to the sl*mepit and it got bot-denied (of course), and/but it’s not quite on-topic enough to copy-paste the whole thing over there–it’s long–so here it is over here instead.
What happened, somebody quoted somebody else as saying “I hope that other strong women come forward who can group together to drive away the PZ/Watson bigot-bullies†and I said “you’re in luck!†and linked to this:
Well, maybe he can give us the details himself...? Juzzie? What's the good word mate?cunt wrote:He's quite clearly aiming for about twice what the trip should cost. Still, never ascribe to malice. He probably just pulled the $3500 figure out his arse.FrankGrimes wrote:I'm more than happy with what Justin "hashtag" Vacula is doing, hence my donation.
We all know he's a brave hero but he can't do everything. Should we be pissed off at him because he's not in Africa at the moment helping the starving children too?
Also, I doubt he's aiming at getting to $160, 000. He doesn't come across as the kind of person that would rip people off.
The pressure needs to be kept on these people and better in be done in real life.
At any time someone can say "Why would you spend money on x when you can be donating money to cause y"Gumby wrote:Metalogic42 wrote:No offense meant to either you or your donor, but that seems like an extraordinarily large amount for something like this, and IMO would be much better spent in Oklahoma than Dublin. Also: wouldn't it be better for your own PR, atheism PR in general, and society, if you were to skip the conference altogether and go help tornado victims instead?justinvacula wrote:An anonymous donor just contributed - fundraiser is now at $1800 in a matter of minutes! The 'pit is strong! :o
From the fundraiser,cunt wrote:He's quite clearly aiming for about twice what the trip should cost. Still, never ascribe to malice. He probably just pulled the $3500 figure out his arse.FrankGrimes wrote:I'm more than happy with what Justin "hashtag" Vacula is doing, hence my donation.
We all know he's a brave hero but he can't do everything. Should we be pissed off at him because he's not in Africa at the moment helping the starving children too?
Also, I doubt he's aiming at getting to $160, 000. He doesn't come across as the kind of person that would rip people off.
The pressure needs to be kept on these people and better in be done in real life.
There's also the funding cut, the possible charges associated with currency conversion, and misc. expenses. $3100 was my first low estimate, but I added a cushion to make sure everything is covered. The rest, too, as the fundraiser notes, goes to improving the radio show/keeping it online. The hotel and flight are the largest expenses which are responsible for making this goal much higher than the #WIScfi fundraiser.Your donations will contribute toward my expenses including hotel, passport, airfare, transportation, food, and conference registration.
I don't think he's trying to "rip people off", I think it's just a waste of time and money, that's all. Justin supposedly is about atheism and separation of church and state issues, but him begging for money so that he can troll another women's conference is all about Justin doing a stunt, nothing more.FrankGrimes wrote:I'm more than happy with what Justin "hashtag" Vacula is doing, hence my donation.
We all know he's a brave hero but he can't do everything. Should we be pissed off at him because he's not in Africa at the moment helping the starving children too?
Also, I doubt he's aiming at getting to $160, 000. He doesn't come across as the kind of person that would rip people off.
The pressure needs to be kept on these people and better in be done in real life.
Join me and I will cover your hotel room. After all, my room will have two beds. You can co-host on Brave Hero Radio, too, if you would like. Karla isn't coming this time :pPhil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Or donating to my "send a Frenchman wearing a baklava to Dublin" fundraiser!
I'll even give Myers the finger (or two) if needs be. You can't get a better deal. Apart from that, no, I won't do anything constructive. Tempting, isn't it?
You wear pastry covered in nuts and honey?Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Send me there. I promise to wear a baklava.
Not everyday, but it happens sometimes. We are weird people.DownThunder wrote:You wear pastry covered in nuts and honey?Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Send me there. I promise to wear a baklava.
If you would like to suggest what I ought to do or what the best spending of my time is, I am all ears...but it is strange for you to suggest these things for other people considering subjective differences in value and such.Gumby wrote:I don't think he's trying to "rip people off", I think it's just a waste of time and money, that's all. Justin supposedly is about atheism and separation of church and state issues, but him begging for money so that he can troll another women's conference is all about Justin doing a stunt, nothing more.FrankGrimes wrote:I'm more than happy with what Justin "hashtag" Vacula is doing, hence my donation.
We all know he's a brave hero but he can't do everything. Should we be pissed off at him because he's not in Africa at the moment helping the starving children too?
Also, I doubt he's aiming at getting to $160, 000. He doesn't come across as the kind of person that would rip people off.
The pressure needs to be kept on these people and better in be done in real life.
Once = making somewhat of a point about not letting oneself be excluded from the community by a bunch of thugs in cheap hipster glasses. Any more than that it's just a self-serving stunt.
Of course, this is just my opinion, as Andrew always says "YMMV"
If you plan to wear a Lebanese pastry on your head I'll definitely be sending money.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Or donating to my "send a Frenchman wearing a baklava to Dublin" fundraiser!
I'll even give Myers the finger (or two) if needs be. You can't get a better deal. Apart from that, no, I won't do anything constructive. Tempting, isn't it?
You are intentionally evading the point, dummy.justinvacula wrote:At any time someone can say "Why would you spend money on x when you can be donating money to cause y"Gumby wrote:Metalogic42 wrote:No offense meant to either you or your donor, but that seems like an extraordinarily large amount for something like this, and IMO would be much better spent in Oklahoma than Dublin. Also: wouldn't it be better for your own PR, atheism PR in general, and society, if you were to skip the conference altogether and go help tornado victims instead?justinvacula wrote:An anonymous donor just contributed - fundraiser is now at $1800 in a matter of minutes! The 'pit is strong! :o
Why go to the movies when you can donate to efforts against malaria?
Why buy that new car when you can donate to Operation Smile?
Why buy that new house when you can donate to tsunami victims?
You know, we can also all sell our computers, live on the streets, sell all of our things....
People can, rather than be faced with others suggesting how they ought to spend money, make their own decisions and decide what is important whether it be donating to my fundraiser, donating to tornado victims, donating to the Red Cross, etc. Hell, you can even donate to multiple causes if you want.
I was planning on wearing one on a necklace, like a Surlypastry, but now that you mention headwear, I'll have to think about it.FrankGrimes wrote:If you plan to wear a Lebanese pastry on your head I'll definitely be sending money.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Or donating to my "send a Frenchman wearing a baklava to Dublin" fundraiser!
I'll even give Myers the finger (or two) if needs be. You can't get a better deal. Apart from that, no, I won't do anything constructive. Tempting, isn't it?
What is the "point?"Gumby wrote: You are intentionally evading the point, dummy.
Fuck it. You can raise money for whatever completely irrelevant, non-productive and self-promoting purpose you want, Justin. Once again, you go the cheap attention-whore route. No surprise there.
What I would SUGGEST is that you spend your time and effort raising money for and doing things that are actually sensible, relevant to your stated goals, productive, and paint you and your causes in a good light. But given your past track record of not being able to resist grabbing for any little micro-lumen of spotlight you can, I'm sure you will just do whatever your little attention-seeking self desires. So go for it.justinvacula wrote:If you would like to suggest what I ought to do or what the best spending of my time is, I am all ears...but it is strange for you to suggest these things for other people considering subjective differences in value and such.Gumby wrote:I don't think he's trying to "rip people off", I think it's just a waste of time and money, that's all. Justin supposedly is about atheism and separation of church and state issues, but him begging for money so that he can troll another women's conference is all about Justin doing a stunt, nothing more.FrankGrimes wrote:I'm more than happy with what Justin "hashtag" Vacula is doing, hence my donation.
We all know he's a brave hero but he can't do everything. Should we be pissed off at him because he's not in Africa at the moment helping the starving children too?
Also, I doubt he's aiming at getting to $160, 000. He doesn't come across as the kind of person that would rip people off.
The pressure needs to be kept on these people and better in be done in real life.
Once = making somewhat of a point about not letting oneself be excluded from the community by a bunch of thugs in cheap hipster glasses. Any more than that it's just a self-serving stunt.
Of course, this is just my opinion, as Andrew always says "YMMV"
Absolutely. My assumption is though that he's not going to troll but to make sure at least *a presence is felt and to document things that go on there that we would otherwise not be privy to.Gumby wrote:I don't think he's trying to "rip people off", I think it's just a waste of time and money, that's all. Justin supposedly is about atheism and separation of church and state issues, but him begging for money so that he can troll another women's conference is all about Justin doing a stunt, nothing more.FrankGrimes wrote:I'm more than happy with what Justin "hashtag" Vacula is doing, hence my donation.
We all know he's a brave hero but he can't do everything. Should we be pissed off at him because he's not in Africa at the moment helping the starving children too?
Also, I doubt he's aiming at getting to $160, 000. He doesn't come across as the kind of person that would rip people off.
The pressure needs to be kept on these people and better in be done in real life.
Once = making somewhat of a point about not letting oneself be excluded from the community by a bunch of thugs in cheap hipster glasses. Any more than that it's just a self-serving stunt.
Of course, this is just my opinion, as Andrew always says "YMMV"
Just concerned for your welfare. Just had a nasty mental image of you wearing food, then Hensley follows you into an elevator saying WHERE ARE YOU GOING TASTY SLYMEBOY?Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Not everyday, but it happens sometimes. We are weird people.DownThunder wrote:You wear pastry covered in nuts and honey?Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Send me there. I promise to wear a baklava.
Justin, your intentional fake obliviousness is obvious. You know perfectly well what my point is. You're arguing like a fundie.justinvacula wrote:What is the "point?"Gumby wrote: You are intentionally evading the point, dummy.
Fuck it. You can raise money for whatever completely irrelevant, non-productive and self-promoting purpose you want, Justin. Once again, you go the cheap attention-whore route. No surprise there.
What do you want me doing with my time....and why?
When you talk about what is a "waste" or what is "worth the time," this is all about what you think - obviously much different than what others think is a good use of time. How do you measure what is the "best" use of time? Why ought others agree with your conclusions?
I don't go about telling people things like "Stop wasting time on Netflix," "Stop playing MMOs," "Hiking is a waste of time," etc. It seems most odd considering others have different priorities than I do.
Poor Anita. $125,000 does't cut it to review videogames on the internet. Because certainly there aren't people those for free on various Youtube and Blip channels, that's for sure.FrankGrimes wrote:No problem Justin. But just in case you raise more than you need (say by a factor of 25), please send a portion of my donation to Anita Sarkeesian. She seems to have fallen behind in her video making efforts to rid the world of rapist gamers. I'm certain that's because she doesn't have enough money.
She would never know I'm a Slymeboy. I'd shave my mustache to confuse them.DownThunder wrote:Just concerned for your welfare. Just had a nasty mental image of you wearing food, then Hensley follows you into an elevator saying WHERE ARE YOU GOING TASTY SLYMEBOY?Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Not everyday, but it happens sometimes. We are weird people.DownThunder wrote:You wear pastry covered in nuts and honey?Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Send me there. I promise to wear a baklava.
There's been lots of shit here in recent pages about how what I do is somehow "not working" or not an effective use of my time. I wonder what some of you saying these things suggest is my "best use of time" and why I should care. What, too, are you doing in accord with this forum and related activities compared to what I am doing - and why is what you are doing is better?cunt wrote:There you go, $1700 for Justin to get a passport, some of his money converted and presumably eat only swans neck in Ireland for 3 days. Maybe a new mic for his laptop. Trophy said it best, if you're donating to this you are a big sucker.
Gumby: it is to be noted that justin never left the US and might think this is a good opportunity to both visit a new country and report on the event. I see nothing wrong with it. If people want to donate, they will. A 3-days weekend is not exactly a waste of time on Justin other activism, IMO.Gumby wrote:Justin, your intentional fake obliviousness is obvious. You know perfectly well what my point is. You're arguing like a fundie.justinvacula wrote:What is the "point?"Gumby wrote: You are intentionally evading the point, dummy.
Fuck it. You can raise money for whatever completely irrelevant, non-productive and self-promoting purpose you want, Justin. Once again, you go the cheap attention-whore route. No surprise there.
What do you want me doing with my time....and why?
When you talk about what is a "waste" or what is "worth the time," this is all about what you think - obviously much different than what others think is a good use of time. How do you measure what is the "best" use of time? Why ought others agree with your conclusions?
I don't go about telling people things like "Stop wasting time on Netflix," "Stop playing MMOs," "Hiking is a waste of time," etc. It seems most odd considering others have different priorities than I do.
You want to beg for money so you can go on a transparently self-serving mission to troll another women's conference and accomplish nothing? Go ahead. I'm done with this discussion.
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I was planning on wearing one on a necklace, like a Surlypastry, but now that you mention headwear, I'll have to think about it.FrankGrimes wrote:If you plan to wear a Lebanese pastry on your head I'll definitely be sending money.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Or donating to my "send a Frenchman wearing a baklava to Dublin" fundraiser!
I'll even give Myers the finger (or two) if needs be. You can't get a better deal. Apart from that, no, I won't do anything constructive. Tempting, isn't it?
Everything you need to know is right here (in part):cunt wrote:There you go, $1700 for Justin to get a passport, some of his money converted and presumably eat only swans neck in Ireland for 3 days. Maybe a new mic for his laptop. Trophy said it best, if you're donating to this you are a big sucker.
Y'all aren't sticking your finger in PZ's eye. You're funding an advertising campaign.I don't see what the problem is with getting my name out there. It's branding. I don't have a huge audience like some others, so I have to promote, write frequently, and get out there whether it be 'on the front lines' or online. Viewers don't magically come to websites. People need to self-promote their content. I especially learned this when I wrote for Examiner.com and pay was based on page views... I have since stopped writing for them for various reasons and, of course, am now on SIN. What do you want me to do, go about and wear a mask, hiding my identity? The hell? I'm a recognized figure here in Northeastern Pennsylvania because of my local activism and, even at the rally, some of the pastors knew who I was...and we had conversation. Local media, too, is happy to work with me because of good relationships.
How come he's not donating to the Girl Scouts so they don't have to sell some of their 1000s of acres of expensive real estate?FrankGrimes wrote:I'm more than happy with what Justin "hashtag" Vacula is doing, hence my donation.
We all know he's a brave hero but he can't do everything. Should we be pissed off at him because he's not in Africa at the moment helping the starving children too?
http://freethoughtblogs.com/physioprof/ ... mer-camps/!Physiodouche wrote:Republican Filth Getting What They Want: Girl Scouts Shuttering Their Summer Camps
Greedy rich right-wing pigges sail around in yachts costing hundreds of millions of dollars, while the girl scouts have to sell their summer camps to the highest bidder. FREEEEDUMMM!!!!
Please, I can't bring myself to click FTB links. Unless it's to OB. There's good in her. I feel the conflict within her. She just needs to let go of her hate.Apples wrote:How come he's not donating to the Girl Scouts so they don't have to sell some of their 1000s of acres of expensive real estate?FrankGrimes wrote:I'm more than happy with what Justin "hashtag" Vacula is doing, hence my donation.
We all know he's a brave hero but he can't do everything. Should we be pissed off at him because he's not in Africa at the moment helping the starving children too?
http://freethoughtblogs.com/physioprof/ ... mer-camps/!Physiodouche wrote:Republican Filth Getting What They Want: Girl Scouts Shuttering Their Summer Camps
Greedy rich right-wing pigges sail around in yachts costing hundreds of millions of dollars, while the girl scouts have to sell their summer camps to the highest bidder. FREEEEDUMMM!!!!
It is a travesty. A shoestring organization with only a quarter billion dollars in assets + annual income and a NYC headquarters with 400 employees is being forced - FORCED - I tell you - by Republican pigs on yachts - to consolidate some of its underused real estate holdings as a continuation of its 2006 strategic consolidation.
I mean - shit - if we guillotined Bill Gates and Carlos Slim alone we could buy Central Park for the Girl Scouts with enough left over to run the US Federal Government for nearly two weeks.
Just giving my opinion, that's all. Given his past track record of boneheadedness and facepalm-worthy decision-making, I question Justin's motives. If people want to send him money to go on this blatantly cheap-ass stunt, that's their business. But I see nothing worthwhile coming out of it, and see it as nothing more than an opportunity for him to travel overseas on other peoples' dimes so he can again make the womens conference attendees uncomfortable so he can write a few useless tweets about it. IMO this has nothing to do with "reporting on the conference". As I said originally, doing once I can see. He even managed to make somewhat of a point, just by his presence, and didn't do anything really stupid. But twice is overkill, kind of stalky and accomplishes nothing other than to feed whatever the fuck it is Justin is hungry for.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Gumby: it is to be noted that justin never left the US and might think this is a good opportunity to both visit a new country and report on the event. I see nothing wrong with it. If people want to donate, they will. A 3-days weekend is not exactly a waste of time on Justin other activism, IMO.Gumby wrote:Justin, your intentional fake obliviousness is obvious. You know perfectly well what my point is. You're arguing like a fundie.justinvacula wrote:What is the "point?"Gumby wrote: You are intentionally evading the point, dummy.
Fuck it. You can raise money for whatever completely irrelevant, non-productive and self-promoting purpose you want, Justin. Once again, you go the cheap attention-whore route. No surprise there.
What do you want me doing with my time....and why?
When you talk about what is a "waste" or what is "worth the time," this is all about what you think - obviously much different than what others think is a good use of time. How do you measure what is the "best" use of time? Why ought others agree with your conclusions?
I don't go about telling people things like "Stop wasting time on Netflix," "Stop playing MMOs," "Hiking is a waste of time," etc. It seems most odd considering others have different priorities than I do.
You want to beg for money so you can go on a transparently self-serving mission to troll another women's conference and accomplish nothing? Go ahead. I'm done with this discussion.
THIS.mikelf wrote:Everything you need to know is right here (in part):cunt wrote:There you go, $1700 for Justin to get a passport, some of his money converted and presumably eat only swans neck in Ireland for 3 days. Maybe a new mic for his laptop. Trophy said it best, if you're donating to this you are a big sucker.
Y'all aren't sticking your finger in PZ's eye. You're funding an advertising campaign.I don't see what the problem is with getting my name out there. It's branding. I don't have a huge audience like some others, so I have to promote, write frequently, and get out there whether it be 'on the front lines' or online. Viewers don't magically come to websites. People need to self-promote their content. I especially learned this when I wrote for Examiner.com and pay was based on page views... I have since stopped writing for them for various reasons and, of course, am now on SIN. What do you want me to do, go about and wear a mask, hiding my identity? The hell? I'm a recognized figure here in Northeastern Pennsylvania because of my local activism and, even at the rally, some of the pastors knew who I was...and we had conversation. Local media, too, is happy to work with me because of good relationships.
You can read her out of FTB in her suckpuppet blog, greylining.com.FrankGrimes wrote:Please, I can't bring myself to click FTB links. Unless it's to OB. There's good in her. I feel the conflict within her. She just needs to let go of her hate.Apples wrote:How come he's not donating to the Girl Scouts so they don't have to sell some of their 1000s of acres of expensive real estate?FrankGrimes wrote:I'm more than happy with what Justin "hashtag" Vacula is doing, hence my donation.
We all know he's a brave hero but he can't do everything. Should we be pissed off at him because he's not in Africa at the moment helping the starving children too?
http://freethoughtblogs.com/physioprof/ ... mer-camps/!Physiodouche wrote:Republican Filth Getting What They Want: Girl Scouts Shuttering Their Summer Camps
Greedy rich right-wing pigges sail around in yachts costing hundreds of millions of dollars, while the girl scouts have to sell their summer camps to the highest bidder. FREEEEDUMMM!!!!
It is a travesty. A shoestring organization with only a quarter billion dollars in assets + annual income and a NYC headquarters with 400 employees is being forced - FORCED - I tell you - by Republican pigs on yachts - to consolidate some of its underused real estate holdings as a continuation of its 2006 strategic consolidation.
I mean - shit - if we guillotined Bill Gates and Carlos Slim alone we could buy Central Park for the Girl Scouts with enough left over to run the US Federal Government for nearly two weeks.
*facepalm*justinvacula wrote:#VaculaMustDenounce people who don't donate to victims of every natural disaster ever
Get real Justin. I haven't said anything about whether or not you going to Dublin is an effective use of your time. I've just noted that you seem to have given yourself at least a $1000 "cushion".justinvacula wrote:There's been lots of shit here in recent pages about how what I do is somehow "not working" or not an effective use of my time. I wonder what some of you saying these things suggest is my "best use of time" and why I should care. What, too, are you doing in accord with this forum and related activities compared to what I am doing - and why is what you are doing is better?cunt wrote:There you go, $1700 for Justin to get a passport, some of his money converted and presumably eat only swans neck in Ireland for 3 days. Maybe a new mic for his laptop. Trophy said it best, if you're donating to this you are a big sucker.
I've taken some constructive criticism from some people who seemed to have actually cared - to consider reducing 'self-promotion' in here and elsewhere (I have joined in conversations more, posted commentary here more instead of mostly posting links). I've reconsidered some Tweets and statements I have made and reached out to people on Skype who want to talk - and learned from it.
I'm out on the front line against #ftbullies and have taken many hits over recent months - getting many results, exposing hypocrisy, and alerting people to nonsense. Everyone here contributes in their own way. There's no "best" way to advance goals people might have, but rather many approaches which reach to many people - all or most effective for different reasons. Like me or not, something is working. ...and I appreciate the work of people here who even feel it important for whatever reason to suggest I should spend my time as they see fit because you keep this forum going and inspire others to keep going.
Yup, a bit more clarity about this would be welcomed.cunt wrote:
Get real Justin. I haven't said anything about whether or not you going to Dublin is an effective use of your time. I've just noted that you seem to have given yourself at least a $1000 "cushion".
:lol: The good news is that Setar, Physiodouche, and I are planning to round up and liquidate the entire Forbes 400, turning over their net worth ($1.7T) to the US Government. The bad news is that this money will all be spent in less than 6 months at which point we will be needing your stamps, ice cubes, and e-cigs.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:If you guillotined me, you could buy a very small post stamp (local). Or a bag of ice cubes, maybe.
