Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

[DW Adams]

It's all rather moot

http://atheiststoday.com/images/dw_adam ... raiser.png

[mikelf]

Guys get over yourselves. If you do not like what Justin is doing maybe PM it? Or just say it once and be done with it. You're spamming the forum with your bile and it gets really boring. It makes us look like clowns.

Yeah, cuz all the product placements had really classed the joint up.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

2,765 should be enough to ship a Justin to Dublin. Any extra will ensure safe delivery.

[AndrewV69]

Of course, this is just my opinion, as Andrew always says "YMMV"

Indeed. YMMV.

Also note that any excess funds should be used to buy some really expensive shoes.

Y'all aren't sticking your finger in PZ's eye. You're funding an advertising campaign.

Collateral damage and well worth it.

And if Franc doesn't want to go and reveal himself, we could send a random person pretending to be Victor Ivanoff, pretending to be Franc. The lulz would be the same, if not greater.

Seeing as JV is Franc then yes that would work.

Can I leave now? I've been trying to micro-flounce for half a fucking hour now! :lol:

Yes with the understanding that if you do not come back, then we are going to come haul your sorry ass back in here.

Justin. if you promise to spend the excess money on a pair of shitty designer clogs I will donate at least a tenner.

Done! No fluevogs! I'll even denounce fluevogs via Twitter (or whatever you would like) for $15 :o

NO YOU PRAT! If you get fluevogs you can say you have walked in Greta's shoes!!!!

(Also make sure you cross your legs to everyone can see the red soles)

Must be nice. I wonder if we'll see the donators to this thing whining about PZ/Watsons airfare and the environmental cost in the next month.

Shut up ya cunt.

I support this move. If Justin uses the money to send locals to the convention instead, he'll not only save face, he'll make the fainting couch brigade look like greedy sticks in the mud.

Sorry but once the FC(n) realize that JV is going to show up at every conference they attend from now on that is a priceless gift to humanity.

[Lsuoma]

$3500 for a three night stay in Dublin. :think:

If that's the price its nuts. You can get good deals for a fraction of that near or in town. Someone needs to be a better negotiator.

http://mcanetworkacademy.com/StressFree ... iator1.jpg

[cunt]

Guys get over yourselves. If you do not like what Justin is doing maybe PM it? Or just say it once and be done with it. You're spamming the forum with your bile and it gets really boring. It makes us look like clowns.

Oh oh, tone troll!

As fast as were getting people were also losing them.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/new ... single.jpg

[Lsuoma]

$3500 for a three night stay in Dublin. :think:

If that's the price its nuts. You can get good deals for a fraction of that near or in town. Someone needs to be a better negotiator.

I presume the majority of the cost is for the high season plane flights rather than the hotel rooms and conference fee.

I'm flying business class to Europe late July from Seattle, for $3450 round trip. Flights in cattle class are typically $1200-1500, less from the East Coast airports where there is more competition.

[Mykeru]

Oh, it was so very productive: people got to talk about JV. Peole make blog posts about JV. People tweeted things about JV. JV even got
to have MrSmartyPants MrAhteistPants to appear on his show. So as you can see, it was very productive, well, at least if
you are a JV. For all the non-Justin Vacula people, it was not productive at all.

Oh Jesus Fucking Christ. Let the boy have some fun.

Another way to look at it is if Justin went to WIS2 and then didn't follow up, it would prove the point previously made by the same people criticizing now that the first time it was a one-off stunt without purpose.

If you want to have an ambassador for burying the hatchet and proving the threat narrative people wrong, Justin is a good pick. First, he's so innocuous that he might not even have a blood type. Second, he paid his dues in the form of being harassed, targeted and generally fucking lied about by the same people in attendance at the conferences who are used to winning by forfeit. If these people are proven wrong about Justin's intentions or any intentions of a male taking interest, it's worth proving them wrong again.

You may claim nothing new was learned by Justin's live blogging, so in that case I would assume you are content to know what, if anything, happens as filtered by the usual cadre of ideologue scumbags because, as we know, people like Ophelia Benson, Rebecca Watson and Melody Hensley just scream "reliable narrator".

Is there some self promotion in what Justin is doing? Yes. That's how it's done. That's how you raise your profile, that's how you get things done, that's how you potentially displace the usual incestuous group of relentless self-promoters who are not only self-promoting but doing harm to the skeptical movement. If you are not capitalizing on a chance at self-promotion then you are probably like me, which means sadly lacking in the minimal level of ambition to succeed.

Stop tearing the man down because he's just not doing what you would do and, on that point, someone remind me what you have done lately.

[windy]

2,765 should be enough to ship a Justin to Dublin.

In a box?

:rimshot:

[Lsuoma]

You are intentionally evading the point, dummy.

Fuck it. You can raise money for whatever completely irrelevant, non-productive and self-promoting purpose you want, Justin. Once again, you go the cheap attention-whore route. No surprise there.

What is the "point?"

What do you want me doing with my time....and why?

When you talk about what is a "waste" or what is "worth the time," this is all about what you think - obviously much different than what others think is a good use of time. How do you measure what is the "best" use of time? Why ought others agree with your conclusions?

I don't go about telling people things like "Stop wasting time on Netflix," "Stop playing MMOs," "Hiking is a waste of time," etc. It seems most odd considering others have different priorities than I do.

Most people don't ask others to fund those activities.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

$3500 for a three night stay in Dublin. :think:

If that's the price its nuts. You can get good deals for a fraction of that near or in town. Someone needs to be a better negotiator.

I presume the majority of the cost is for the high season plane flights rather than the hotel rooms and conference fee.

I'm flying business class to Europe late July from Seattle, for $3450 round trip. Flights in cattle class are typically $1200-1500, less from the East Coast airports where there is more competition.

Wait a sec! It used to be around 800 US$ round trip. Whatever happened to the economy?

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Oh, it was so very productive: people got to talk about JV. Peole make blog posts about JV. People tweeted things about JV. JV even got
to have MrSmartyPants MrAhteistPants to appear on his show. So as you can see, it was very productive, well, at least if
you are a JV. For all the non-Justin Vacula people, it was not productive at all.

Oh Jesus Fucking Christ. Let the boy have some fun.

Another way to look at it is if Justin went to WIS2 and then didn't follow up, it would prove the point previously made by the same people criticizing now that the first time it was a one-off stunt without purpose.

If you want to have an ambassador for burying the hatchet and proving the threat narrative people wrong, Justin is a good pick. First, he's so innocuous that he might not even have a blood type. Second, he paid his dues in the form of being harassed, targeted and generally fucking lied about by the same people in attendance at the conferences who are used to winning by forfeit. If these people are proven wrong about Justin's intentions or any intentions of a male taking interest, it's worth proving them wrong again.

You may claim nothing new was learned by Justin's live blogging, so in that case I would assume you are content to know what, if anything, happens as filtered by the usual cadre of ideologue scumbags because, as we know, people like Ophelia Benson, Rebecca Watson and Melody Hensley just scream "reliable narrator".

Is there some self promotion in what Justin is doing? Yes. That's how it's done. That's how you raise your profile, that's how you get things done, that's how you potentially displace the usual incestuous group of relentless self-promoters who are not only self-promoting but doing harm to the skeptical movement. If you are not capitalizing on a chance at self-promotion then you are probably like me, which means sadly lacking in the minimal level of ambition to succeed.

Stop tearing the man down because he's just not doing what you would do and, on that point, someone remind me what you have done lately.

There should be a slow golf clap there, somehow. I agree wholeheartfully, if that's an actual word.

[Lsuoma]

#VaculaMustDenounce people who don't donate to victims of every natural disaster ever

What a wanker! Complete and utter wanker...

[DW Adams]

$3500 for a three night stay in Dublin. :think:

If that's the price its nuts. You can get good deals for a fraction of that near or in town. Someone needs to be a better negotiator.

I presume the majority of the cost is for the high season plane flights rather than the hotel rooms and conference fee.

I'm flying business class to Europe late July from Seattle, for $3450 round trip. Flights in cattle class are typically $1200-1500, less from the East Coast airports where there is more competition.

Wait a sec! It used to be around 800 US$ round trip. Whatever happened to the economy?

http://images.alarabiya.net/d5/5a/640x3 ... 192676.jpg

[deLurch]

There you go, $1700 for Justin to get a passport, some of his money converted and presumably eat only swans neck in Ireland for 3 days. Maybe a new mic for his laptop. Trophy said it best, if you're donating to this you are a big sucker.

Please. Everyone knows the bar tab is the most expensive part of any conference.

[Southern]

2,765 should be enough to ship a Justin to Dublin. Any extra will ensure safe delivery.

Just pack him on a Fedex box and call it a day. That'll save costs!

On a second tought, tthe bubble wrap to protect the moustache could cost too much...

[Skep tickle]

Justin didn't start this. I proposed the idea of his attending the Dublin conference, twisted his arm a teeny little bit, promised to help with the funding, and discussed practicalities with him including costs.

[justinvacula]

Weakest Insults By YouTube Trolls

Ana Kasparian

[youtube]ox7K7kG6nNk[/youtube]

[Mykeru]

Get real Justin. I haven't said anything about whether or not you going to Dublin is an effective use of your time. I've just noted that you seem to have given yourself at least a $1000 "cushion".

Well then, in the interests of "getting real", is your complaint about Justin "giving himself a cushion" (ignoring the obvious implication) that he's not a fucking idiot walking the margin of failure?

When I'm traveling, I like a margin too. Even survival camping I stash cold hard cash because you never know. The first rule of hiking the Appalachian Trail, getting off the grid, hugging the trees and giving handjobs to wildlife is "Take half the shit and twice the money".

It's just smart. Traveling to a foreign country for a multi-day event with a cushion sounds like common sense.

Now, after the fact, if that cushion is unused, it'll be interesting to see what Justin does with it, probably plowing it back into some cause, perhaps. Or giving it to me where it will be spent on crack, hookers and a down payment on detox. But to criticize him before the fact stinks of trying to find something to complain about to prove your innate superiority by virtue of inertia.

[cunt]

There's not going to be any "burying of the hatchet" and people who think there is are severely fucking deluded. If they're not outright lying about their intentions. Gumby was basically correct, if you're paying for Vacula to go to this thing, you're doing so because you hope he'll piss the speakers off by his presence.

Don't pretend otherwise, it's transparent as fuck.

[Southern]

Guys get over yourselves. If you do not like what Justin is doing maybe PM it? Or just say it once and be done with it. You're spamming the forum with your bile and it gets really boring. It makes us look like clowns.

Oh oh, tone troll!

As fast as were getting people were also losing them.

As long as Ophelia keeps visiting, I don't care.

Oh, and hi Ophelia! Have some cunts. Cunt, cunt, cunt.

[Skep tickle]

Oh, it was so very productive: people got to talk about JV. Peole make blog posts about JV. People tweeted things about JV. JV even got
to have MrSmartyPants MrAhteistPants to appear on his show. So as you can see, it was very productive, well, at least if
you are a JV. For all the non-Justin Vacula people, it was not productive at all.

Oh Jesus Fucking Christ. Let the boy have some fun.

Another way to look at it is if Justin went to WIS2 and then didn't follow up, it would prove the point previously made by the same people criticizing now that the first time it was a one-off stunt without purpose.

If you want to have an ambassador for burying the hatchet and proving the threat narrative people wrong, Justin is a good pick. First, he's so innocuous that he might not even have a blood type. Second, he paid his dues in the form of being harassed, targeted and generally fucking lied about by the same people in attendance at the conferences who are used to winning by forfeit. If these people are proven wrong about Justin's intentions or any intentions of a male taking interest, it's worth proving them wrong again.

You may claim nothing new was learned by Justin's live blogging, so in that case I would assume you are content to know what, if anything, happens as filtered by the usual cadre of ideologue scumbags because, as we know, people like Ophelia Benson, Rebecca Watson and Melody Hensley just scream "reliable narrator".

Is there some self promotion in what Justin is doing? Yes. That's how it's done. That's how you raise your profile, that's how you get things done, that's how you potentially displace the usual incestuous group of relentless self-promoters who are not only self-promoting but doing harm to the skeptical movement. If you are not capitalizing on a chance at self-promotion then you are probably like me, which means sadly lacking in the minimal level of ambition to succeed.

Stop tearing the man down because he's just not doing what you would do and, on that point, someone remind me what you have done lately.

There should be a slow golf clap there, somehow. I agree wholeheartfully, if that's an actual word.

:clap: <- there it is

From the Atheist Ireland conference page: http://www.atheist.ie/empowering-women- ... n-ireland/

Religions and religiously-inspired laws discriminate against women. Secular activism can help to empower women. And, whether you are a woman or a man, you can help to shape the future of secular activism and women’s rights around the world by coming to Dublin this June.

...You will help to shape strategies for positive change, and vote on an international Declaration on Empowering Women Through Secularism.

We will discuss how religion and religiously-influenced laws discriminate against women in areas from healthcare, sexuality and reproductive rights to education, careers and social policy, as well as how to combat violence against women and the history and future of women in atheist and secular activism.

I don't see anything there that suggests Justin's attendance would be contrary to the purpose of the conference. His area of passion & activism in atheism is church-state separation. US so far, but the topic of this conference is in that same vein and may be useful to him in his own work, as well as potentially adding a useful voice to the discussion and the International Declaration to help make sure some other attendees from the US don't put too big a thumbprint on that document. Though if Justin only observes that's fine too.

I love the idea of overage going to help cover the conference fee for a couple of people in Ireland who'd like to attend but can't afford to.

[Lsuoma]

There's not going to be any "burying of the hatchet" and people who think there is are severely fucking deluded. If they're not outright lying about their intentions. Gumby was basically correct, if you're paying for Vacula to go to this thing, you're doing so because you hope he'll piss the speakers off by his presence.

Don't pretend otherwise, it's transparent as fuck.

Cunt may be a cunt, but the cunt is right.

[mikelf]

Weakest Insults By YouTube Trolls

Ana Kasparian

[youtube]ox7K7kG6nNk[/youtube]

This flip-off might have been more appropriate.

http://www.quebecoislibre.org/10/OtherP ... ney10b.jpg

[Southern]

There's not going to be any "burying of the hatchet" and people who think there is are severely fucking deluded. If they're not outright lying about their intentions. Gumby was basically correct, if you're paying for Vacula to go to this thing, you're doing so because you hope he'll piss the speakers off by his presence.

Don't pretend otherwise, it's transparent as fuck.

I'm not paying for it, because I'm a cheap bastard (and because the exchange rates would kill me), but I agree with cunt. And I don't think it's nothing to be ashamed off - the Faint Couch Brigade surely isn't ashamed of lying, slandering, and stirring shit themselves. Payback is a bitch.

[Za-zen]

For those who couldn't be arsed to read through todays pit news, here's the condensed version

[youtube]h54IUqUWPbI[/youtube]

[Dick Strawkins]

There's not going to be any "burying of the hatchet" and people who think there is are severely fucking deluded. If they're not outright lying about their intentions. Gumby was basically correct, if you're paying for Vacula to go to this thing, you're doing so because you hope he'll piss the speakers off by his presence.

Don't pretend otherwise, it's transparent as fuck.

Cunt may be a cunt, but the cunt is right.

Unlike the WISC2, the FTB mafia do not control the list of speakers. Most of those speaking will have no idea who Vacula is and the vast majority of the audience will not be the SJW types that were the overwhelming attendees of the Washington conference.
Vacula's presence will, undoubtedly annoy Peezus, O and RW. But mainly because he will be there and they will again be simply ignored by him rather than threatened.
Yes, he's an attention whore, but the more he turns up at their meetings the less they can plead that he is some sort of danger.

[Dick Strawkins]

Is this the conference hotel?

It doesn't sound very safe! :shock:

http://i.imgur.com/GoBkNTp.jpg

[cunt]

Cunt may be a cunt, but the cunt is right.

I'm lovely in real life. Phil will discover this soon, possibly in mid-july?

[justinvacula]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... /stalking/

http://i.imgur.com/BxBwedO.jpg

She can't go ANYWHERE!

[Lsuoma]

There's not going to be any "burying of the hatchet" and people who think there is are severely fucking deluded. If they're not outright lying about their intentions. Gumby was basically correct, if you're paying for Vacula to go to this thing, you're doing so because you hope he'll piss the speakers off by his presence.

Don't pretend otherwise, it's transparent as fuck.

Cunt may be a cunt, but the cunt is right.

Unlike the WISC2, the FTB mafia do not control the list of speakers. Most of those speaking will have no idea who Vacula is and the vast majority of the audience will not be the SJW types that were the overwhelming attendees of the Washington conference.
Vacula's presence will, undoubtedly annoy Peezus, O and RW. But mainly because he will be there and they will again be simply ignored by him rather than threatened.
Yes, he's an attention whore, but the more he turns up at their meetings the less they can plead that he is some sort of danger.

That may be the case, but cunt pointed out the suckers donors HOPE that Vacula will piss off the speakers. That's still true, IMHO. Plus Attention Whore certainly wants to expand his brand recognition.

[Mykeru]

There's not going to be any "burying of the hatchet" and people who think there is are severely fucking deluded. If they're not outright lying about their intentions.

Don't be obtuse. Some people can learn. Some people can change. Or just some people can learn not to repeat the same old lies because it makes them look stupid. Just because you are not going to change the hard-core crazies doesn't mean the attempt at proving critics wrong is pointless. If that's what you think (i.e. "winning" through quitting), then I'm not the one who is deluded.

I know you think your way, basically being a inert Zen paperweight that doesn't do shit but tear others down for the unforgivable sin of action is superior, but I will have to respectfully disagree with your lack of strategy.

Gumby was basically correct, if you're paying for Vacula to go to this thing, you're doing so because you hope he'll piss the speakers off by his presence.

Wrong. I gave you reasons, you ignored them so you could tell me what I think.

Don't pretend otherwise, it's transparent as fuck.

I stand corrected. You are not deluded. For whatever ulterior motive, you are just fucking dishonest. Telling you what I think is "pretending"?

You have the optical density of a vacuum. Maybe if you actually did something, got out a bit, got some exercise, so to speak, you would be able to lift yourself out of the crankiness you seem to have on account of being a chair-bound manager of other people.

[Guest]

There's not going to be any "burying of the hatchet" and people who think there is are severely fucking deluded.

i assume 'into their skulls' was the unspoken gist

[Dick Strawkins]

There's not going to be any "burying of the hatchet" and people who think there is are severely fucking deluded.

i assume 'into their skulls' was the unspoken gist

http://memeorama.com/wp-content/uploads ... s-Meme.jpg

Hi oolon.

[ReneeHendricks]

An anonymous donor just contributed - fundraiser is now at $1800 in a matter of minutes! The 'pit is strong! :o

No offense meant to either you or your donor, but that seems like an extraordinarily large amount for something like this, and IMO would be much better spent in Oklahoma than Dublin. Also: wouldn't it be better for your own PR, atheism PR in general, and society, if you were to skip the conference altogether and go help tornado victims instead?

It's your time, and their money, and you all can do whatever you want with it, it just seems like a waste to me.

Who's to say that person didn't already donate to help OK? In any case, it seems Ophie is convinced Justin is stalking her now. The latest on her blog is fucking hilarious!

[ReneeHendricks]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... /stalking/

http://i.imgur.com/BxBwedO.jpg

She can't go ANYWHERE!

I just saw that! You know, my daughter's friend's mother often shops at the same grocery store as me. She is stalking me, I know it! LOL

[Lsuoma]

Who's to say that person didn't already donate to help OK? In any case, it seems Ophie is convinced Justin is stalking her now. The latest on her blog is fucking hilarious!

Ah, so there is an upside, then, even from the viewpoint of this cranky old fucker (me, not Feefles).

[DW Adams]

She didn't let my comment through moderation

Yes, it's all about you.

Can't believe I wasted my Facebook login to the BanHammer list over 5 words. :(

[Lsuoma]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... /stalking/

[bimg]http://i.imgur.com/BxBwedO.jpg[/bimg]

She can't go ANYWHERE!

I just saw that! You know, my daughter's friend's mother often shops at the same grocery store as me. She is stalking me, I know it! LOL

Just go the fucking terlit, Feefles. You'll be safe there. But choose one with two exits!

[zenbabe]

Don't you guys think Justin will give an even-handed report of whatever events occur? I do. I enjoyed his tweets from the last con and am interested in hearing more from quite a few of the speakers who were there, which was a pleasant surprise. Also if anything flares up I'd rather some eyes are there which can see things clearly.

His genuine interest in conversation and debate, and his mild presence (despite the mustache), might seduce some people to talk to him who might not otherwise only online. It doesn't seem to me that Justin would risk the chance to go to more cons, talk to more people, or to provide the fainting couch with any actual proof of harassment, by being an asshole and causing problems. Would be out of character from what I've seen of him.

He kicked up a heal playfully while being photoed next to a smiling man of god. He's not going to do anything dumb and I don't want him to. I supported him because I expect he won't be an ass.

[justinvacula]

http://i.imgur.com/czB4iTu.jpg

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[DW Adams]

Anyone know what else Ron Lindsay did that weekend other than his speech?

Just noticed this comment by Svan:

Stephanie Zvan

May 23, 2013 at 11:20 am (UTC -5)

No, that wasn’t all in the speech. That speech wasn’t the only thing Lindsay did all weekend.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-237376

[bovarchist]

http://www.rationalwiki.org/wiki/Slymepit

Which is returning

503 Service Unavailable
No server is available to handle this request.

Also in the Google snippet, I noticed the entry refuses to link to the Pit..."no link---hate speech policy".

lol

But...how can we be a hate site if the Southern Poverty Law Center doesn't say we are?

PS I notice that there is no Wikipedia entry for the Slymepit. Maybe someone should do something about that? Create an honest, even-handed account of what the Pit is, why it exists, and what goes on here? To catapult the propaganda, as Dubya once put it.

[Mykeru]

http://www.rationalwiki.org/wiki/Slymepit

Which is returning

503 Service Unavailable
No server is available to handle this request.

Also in the Google snippet, I noticed the entry refuses to link to the Pit..."no link---hate speech policy".

lol

But...how can we be a hate site if the Southern Poverty Law Center doesn't say we are?

PS I notice that there is no Wikipedia entry for the Slymepit. Maybe someone should do something about that? Create an honest, even-handed account of what the Pit is, why it exists, and what goes on here? To catapult the propaganda, as Dubya once put it.

You are someone. I believe in you.

[Cunt of Personality]

I can't go anywhere now without being followed by a dedicated harasser.

Setting aside the questionable choice of the words "anywhere", "followed", "dedicated" and "harasser", I don't see how anyone could possibly disagree with this statement.

[Dick Strawkins]

Anyone know what else Ron Lindsay did that weekend other than his speech?

Just noticed this comment by Svan:

Stephanie Zvan

May 23, 2013 at 11:20 am (UTC -5)

No, that wasn’t all in the speech. That speech wasn’t the only thing Lindsay did all weekend.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-237376

Illuminati meeting, you know, with the dark robes and the naked virgin (Insert Vacula joke here)

That, and his blog post where he compared Watsons dishonesty with that of a communique from North Korea.

[Apples]

Anyone know what else Ron Lindsay did that weekend other than his speech?

Just noticed this comment by Svan:

Stephanie Zvan

May 23, 2013 at 11:20 am (UTC -5)

No, that wasn’t all in the speech. That speech wasn’t the only thing Lindsay did all weekend.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-237376

I assume she's just talking about welcoming Vacula, the spat with Watson, etc.

[Skep tickle]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... /stalking/

http://i.imgur.com/BxBwedO.jpg

...

Wow. And two of the comments so far support her delusion about stalking. Ophelia herself added this bit (which may not be far off the mark):

Ophelia Benson May 27, 2013 at 9:41 am (UTC -7) Link to this comment

The leadership of the Dublin conference think it’s a case of “both sides” – in fact some of them think our harassers are more right than we are.

_______

She didn't let my comment through moderation

Yes, it's all about you.

Can't believe I wasted my Facebook login to the BanHammer list over 5 words. :(

I posted a short one quite seriously advising she seek professional help for paranoia. It seems likely that won't be posted, nor go over well. :(

[Gefan]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... /stalking/

http://i.imgur.com/BxBwedO.jpg

She can't go ANYWHERE!

I just saw that! You know, my daughter's friend's mother often shops at the same grocery store as me. She is stalking me, I know it! LOL

I was going to take the "wake me up when it's all over" approach to "Overly-Earnest goes to Baboonland 2: Electric Baboonaloo" but then I read that Ophie quote. The tone in my head when I read it is indescribable.
I can't decide if it's the wail of being unable to figure out how to drive in that last nail on her own cross or if it's Bruno Ganz raving away in the last act of "Downfall".

[Dick Strawkins]

...

Wow. And two of the comments so far support her delusion about stalking. Ophelia herself added this bit (which may not be far off the mark):

Ophelia Benson May 27, 2013 at 9:41 am (UTC -7) Link to this comment

The leadership of the Dublin conference think it’s a case of “both sides” – in fact some of them think our harassers are more right than we are.

[/quote]

I guess she's referring to the time when she and Aratina decided to try to bully Derek Walsh of the Irish Atheists into their point of view and only made themselves appear to be completely demented.

[cunt]

I stand corrected. You are not deluded. For whatever ulterior motive, you are just fucking dishonest. Telling you what I think is "pretending"?

You have the optical density of a vacuum. Maybe if you actually did something, got out a bit, got some exercise, so to speak, you would be able to lift yourself out of the crankiness you seem to have on account of being a chair-bound manager of other people.

Aww, did I piss you off? I'd like to know what i'm being fucking dishonest about, and what my ulterior motive is.

[Mykeru]

Ophelia Benson the moment she learned Justin Vacula was going to WIS in Dublin:

http://goo.gl/uwzk2

[Lsuoma]

I stand corrected. You are not deluded. For whatever ulterior motive, you are just fucking dishonest. Telling you what I think is "pretending"?

You have the optical density of a vacuum. Maybe if you actually did something, got out a bit, got some exercise, so to speak, you would be able to lift yourself out of the crankiness you seem to have on account of being a chair-bound manager of other people.

Aww, did I piss you off? I'd like to know what i'm being fucking dishonest about, and what my ulterior motive is.

Don't worby about ol' Mykers - he probably just got some sand in his vajayjay...

[Aneris]

Whether someone is an attention whore or not doesn't really matter. To some degree every public person is, or must be, to stay afloat and I don't see a problem with it. It is also none of your (or my) business what Justin does with the money he personally raises, for the purposes he said it would be used. I'm not too happy with the AVfM connection but fair is fair.

[Lsuoma]

Ophelia Benson the moment she learned Justin Vacula was going to WIS in Dublin:

http://goo.gl/uwzk2

Anyone does a good Downfall of Feefles, I'll give $75 to a charity of their choice.

[Skep tickle]

Ana Kasparian on "Weakest Insults By YouTube Trolls"

[youtube]ox7K7kG6nNk[/youtube]

As a funny* 'bonus', she appears to be topless for most of the video. [/simplyanobservation]

*YMMV; cue "fapfapfap" remarks.

[Pitchguest]

I stand corrected. You are not deluded. For whatever ulterior motive, you are just fucking dishonest. Telling you what I think is "pretending"?

You have the optical density of a vacuum. Maybe if you actually did something, got out a bit, got some exercise, so to speak, you would be able to lift yourself out of the crankiness you seem to have on account of being a chair-bound manager of other people.

Aww, did I piss you off? I'd like to know what i'm being fucking dishonest about, and what my ulterior motive is.

Don't worby about ol' Mykers - he probably just got some sand in his vajayjay...

Both got sand in their vayjayjay. They should get a coffee and sort it out. Preferably in a hotel room. (In Dublin.) Make it happen.

[Mykeru]

I stand corrected. You are not deluded. For whatever ulterior motive, you are just fucking dishonest. Telling you what I think is "pretending"?

You have the optical density of a vacuum. Maybe if you actually did something, got out a bit, got some exercise, so to speak, you would be able to lift yourself out of the crankiness you seem to have on account of being a chair-bound manager of other people.

Aww, did I piss you off? I'd like to know what i'm being fucking dishonest about, and what my ulterior motive is.

Well, I was wondering if you were being obtuse on purpose. Now I don't wonder anymore.

Are you pissed off I noticed that you are a completely inert do-nothing that specializes in tearing other people down and criticizing their taking action, no doubt because of your own laziness and/or personal cowardice?

Not like it's difficult observation to make.

I guess it bears repeating: What the fuck is it you do? Just give me the highlights.

[Apples]

Ophelia Benson the moment she learned Justin Vacula was going to WIS in Dublin:

http://goo.gl/uwzk2

Anyone does a good Downfall of Feefles, I'll give $75 to a charity of their choice.

Here's a link for doing your own Downfall captions -- looks like all you need is a youtube account to upload it to.

http://downfall.jfedor.org/

[DW Adams]

Off topic, but I just noticed something that amused me.

I posted some random videos to test all the upload functions after installing a video add-on at my site.

I had a copy of Rebecca Watson's first attempt at a Google Hangout and used it with the others.

Most of the videos have around 30-40 views....Watson's has 120. Wtf?

Trigger >> Rebecca Watson
http://atheiststoday.com/infusions/vide ... .php?id=10