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I used to support the Australian Atheist Foundations, but I stopped about the time the pit started up.

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Brive1987 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 6:02 pm
Is this a name from the distant elevator-gate past? Or am I imagining things?

You're thinking of Rose St. Clair.

Ashley St. Clair is a relatively nascent conservative activist who seems to like playing at the alt-right boundary.

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Brive1987 wrote: Is this a name from the distant elevator-gate past? Or am I imagining things?

You're thinking of Rose St. Clair.

Ashley St. Clair is a relatively nascent conservative activist who appears to like playing on the alt-right boundary.

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jugheadnaut wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 6:02 pm
Is this a name from the distant elevator-gate past? Or am I imagining things?

https...://twitter.com/prisonplanet/status/1264002481694158852?s=21
You're thinking of Rose St. Clair.

Ashley St. Clair is a relatively nascent conservative activist who seems to like playing at the alt-right boundary.
Ahh. They all sound like strippers, I get confused.

Ta.

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People with St 'Whatever' in their names tend to remind me of Anthony Aloysius St John Hancock.

But that reference may be slightly out of date.

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David Ivor Saint Hubbins?

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MarcusAu wrote: Does anyone here support (financially or otherwise) the AAI, the FFRF or any of the other various atheist or secularist activist organisations? Or did you support them in the past and stop? If so for what reason?

Curious minds want to know - and after all I am what some might call a most curious individual.
I used to be pretty active with fellow atheists. I donated to FFRF, AA, CFI, and AHA. They all went off the rails and started spending my money on stupid shit. I save my money now and don't donate to any of these groups. If I really wanted to give money to communists I would just donate to the Communist Party.

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PZ looks like a fat mess.

Not much has changed.


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MarcusAu wrote: Does anyone here support (financially or otherwise) the AAI, the FFRF or any of the other various atheist or secularist activist organisations? Or did you support them in the past and stop? If so for what reason?

Curious minds want to know - and after all I am what some might call a most curious individual.
I considered supporting FFRF because I think keeping church and state separate is important. But the more I looked at what they are doing the more I felt like instead of saying "we oppose this action because i is unconstitutional" they were always saying "we oppose this action because ou are a bunch of dumb hicks", which is not productive.

They have always leaned SJW, which seems to make them treat Islam differently than Christianity, so all in all not something I am willing to give money to.

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Brive1987 wrote:
He dyed his beard & t-shirt in the same purple vat!

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Years ago, when my ex left me, an artist friend-- a guy in his 50's named "PW"-- let me stay in his loft, a few months.

Tonight another artist called & told me PW had a psychotic episode a few nights ago. PW attacked another guy who shares the loft.

Other details, I don't know the order of these:

~PW was running around the neighborhood naked.
~PW was taken to Belleview hospital, but released without a psych evaluation/ because Belleview isn't accepting psych patients/ due to Covid.
~Loftmates changed the locks-- but PW tried to break-back-in.
~The guy who was attacked got a restraining order.
~PW made threats to his brother (with wife & child) in another state-- and they have moved into hiding.
~PW's current whereabouts are unknown.
~PW has been stressed because NY State hasn't processed his unemployment claim.
~He's also been mailing a work of protest art to the White House-- every day for 3 1/2 years, since Trump was elected. He gave that up a week ago. He has a touch of Trump Derangement-- in addition to the professional-manic-derangement of being a post-modern weird artist type. And this current derangement, of course.

The guy who called me has some vague idea of someone (me) calling PW, finding-out where he is, getting him voluntarily (or involuntarily) to a hospital which will accept him for evaluation. I have doubts about the logistics of that-- getting cops & the medical system to cooperate seems like a crapshoot.

The whole thing is a mess. PW lived in that loft since the 90's. Losing his home/ art-studio-- & simultaneously alienating his family-- in a time of broken social-services.... yeesh. I feel an obligation, since he took-me-in in a time of need. But-- that obligation doesn't extend-to putting myself/dog/gf in danger by letting him stay with us... in this condition.

I've seen him be manic before. Not nearly this bad-- just grandiose & racing-mind. I'd guess it could go on 2 or 3 weeks. He's a tough dude--I can easily imagine his mind clearing, him looking at the mess he's made, and deciding to kill himself with the calm determination of putting-down a rabid animal.

I don't see a way for him to land neatly on his feet.

Aristotle's definition of Tragedy was 'pity & fear'. Pity at the wretch whose troubles are worse than our own/ fear that the same could befall us.

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I’ve been having vivid, exhausting and slightly anxiety-based dreams for a couple of months. Where you remember them in detail for about 20 mins after waking. Which is new.

Last night Service Dog had a cameo.

A disturbing development ...

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Service Dog wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
[img]https...://i.imgur.com../9EunuuN.jpg[/img]
He dyed his beard & t-shirt in the same purple vat!
To match his balls.

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Brive1987 wrote: I’ve been having vivid, exhausting and slightly anxiety-based dreams for a couple of months. Where you remember them in detail for about 20 mins after waking. Which is new.

Last night Service Dog had a cameo.
Your personality is more in-control. Mine's more unraveled, anxious. Makes sense I'd show up in anxiety dream. Also-- interesting to find a 'service dog' in the subconscious underworld.

I recently binge-watched all 201 episodes of The Office-- over 2 or 3 weeks. Numbing escapism from covid & my elderly dog getting close to death. Had a few Office dreams.

There's a blog where I argued politics, since before 9/11/2001. After long absence, I started posting there 6 months ago. I've gone from anti-Dubya (like everyone there) to not-anti-"Drumpf"-enough, to suit them. I started having not-quite-awake morning-headache muddled ruminations, about the blog. They banned me a week ago. With no real cause-- just TDS. No more headache dreams!

Now I have this PW guy to worry about. But I don't feel worried, this morning. My dog's health is still bad, but stable. Every morning I wake-up & he's sleeping hard from overnight pain pill. I've gotten-past freaking-out about his end-of-life. It's just a peaceful reality now.

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I've been locked in so would have probably not been able to celebrate it anyway - however I still managed to miss World Turtle Day (again).



Which was yesterday - Saturday 23rd May.

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Brive1987 wrote: PZ looks like a fat mess.

Not much has changed.
Are you following him on instagram or just popping in from time to time to see what he is up to?

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Service Dog wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
He dyed his beard & t-shirt in the same purple vat!
Holy shit, you're right. He dyed his beard purple. Now all that's left is dying his hair piss yellow and his quest for Pee (Purple) Zed would be complete.

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John D wrote: I used to be pretty active with fellow atheists. I donated to FFRF, AA, CFI, and AHA. They all went off the rails and started spending my money on stupid shit. I save my money now and don't donate to any of these groups. If I really wanted to give money to communists I would just donate to the Communist Party.
I saw a message from the guy that runs the Mythvision youtube channel - that Robert M Price had fallen on hard times, or is at least struggling a bit.

If his patreon page is accurate - he seems to be doing better than some:

https://www.patreon.com/robertmprice


Also, on a more tenuous tangent, Jackson Crawford is doing good work (He's not particularly loquacious on the topic of his own beliefs - downright taciturn you might say - but from what I gather the Norse re-constructurist heathens seem to appreciate was he does).



He's working on a series for 'The Great Courses' lectures.


And of course there's role playing games & models if you really have any money burning a hole in your pocket. (As you already know).


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Service Dog wrote: Aristotle's definition of Tragedy was 'pity & fear'. Pity at the wretch whose troubles are worse than our own/ fear that the same could befall us.
Mania is the really scary kind of psychosis, and by far the most damaging and dangerous. I worked as a resident at the psychiatry wing of a general hospital on the outskirts of London for a while in the early 80's. We would regularly meet up with Hans. Hans was the embarrassing member of a successful family of German emigrés, whose anglicised surname appears on an extremely popular word-based board game, since leaving it like the Third Reich's armaments minister's name was not gemütlich. Poor Hans, he took 400mg of chlorpromazine four times a day, plus lithium and didn't slow down a bit. Being a big and heavy man, he ended up on a barbiturate four times a day as well, maybe pentobarbitone. Despite all that, he would still keep moving restlessly, staggering around leaving a trail of drool like a snail. A couple of days of that and we did the humane thing and started ECT (excellent treatment for mania, rather better than it is for depression perhaps). I remember one admission where he had travelled to Canterbury for the express purpose of heckling the Archbishop in the cathedral. You've just got to love someone who would do such a thing.

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MarcusAu wrote: Robert M Price had fallen on hard times, or is at least struggling a bit.
I know he's had health issues.

Rene Salm, who took a hiatus to concentrate on his music composition, is back to blogging in force, with an extended series of posts parsing the intriguing Gospel of Barnabas, and now a series on Yeshu ha Notsri [a.k.a., "Jesus the Nazarene"] the first century BC renegade Pharisee who Salm and others identify as the source of many Jesus traditions.

http://www.mythicistpapers.com/2020/05/ ... roduction/


Salm's blog is really all I read at this point. I used to spend way too much time at Vridar, but had to step away. For, despite fascinating content, the blog's operators and many of the commenters were just thoroughly nasty individuals.


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Some eagle trivia that some might find surprising. They will attack and kill prey that are substantially larger than them, and they are good swimmers. I have seen them swimming to shore from hundreds of yards out.
I did see an eagle attack a medium large dog that was swimming just off the beach once similar to this attack on a yearling Harbor Seal:
https://www.surreynowleader.com/trendin ... t-in-time/
This is pushing it a bit for the eagle because the seal is denser than water (will sink when dead), probably twice as heavy as the eagle, and as the bird's talons frequently lock on their prey it may not be able to unclasp if it was being dragged under.

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Anyone still interested in the statement analysis / body language topic can try their hand at this appeal video from Barry Morphew, whose wife has been missing since supposedly going on a bike ride on Mother's Day:


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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:23 am
Some eagle trivia that some might find surprising. They will attack and kill prey that are substantially larger than them, and they are good swimmers. I have seen them swimming to shore from hundreds of yards out.
I did see an eagle attack a medium large dog that was swimming just off the beach once similar to this attack on a yearling Harbor Seal:
https://www.surreynowleader.com/trendin ... t-in-time/
This is pushing it a bit for the eagle because the seal is denser than water (will sink when dead), probably twice as heavy as the eagle, and as the bird's talons frequently lock on their prey it may not be able to unclasp if it was being dragged under.
Eagles have been used to hunt Steppe wolves so I'm not surprised. I would imagine that the plan is to come in from behind and drive the talons through something vital in the neck/skull region and I'd also imagine they can get themselves into trouble if the strike goes wrong. I'm mystified as to how birds manage to prey on venomous snakes though. A snake, especially one like a puff adder with long fangs, can bite a handler if they don't grip it as close as possible to the head, so how birds manage to fly off gripping a live snake around the centre of its body is a mystery.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Eagles have been used to hunt Steppe wolves so I'm not surprised. I would imagine that the plan is to come in from behind and drive the talons through something vital in the neck/skull region and I'd also imagine they can get themselves into trouble if the strike goes wrong.
Yes, they seem to target the back of the neck and somewhat the spine. Ideally, they dive in at speed and thrust the talons forward to provide a hard strike.
Even without the extra strike the talons are extremely strong and dangerous. A friend of mine tried to rescue an eagle with a broken wing and it flipped over on its back and grabbed his hand and wrist so hard that the claws went through his hand completely and to the bone on his wrist. Fortunately, there was someone there to rescue him and was able to pry the talons apart without ripping out a major blood vessel or he would have been fucked.
As it was, it took months before he could get even partial use of his hand back.

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Brive1987 wrote:

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I’ve been having vivid, exhausting and slightly anxiety-based dreams for a couple of months. Where you remember them in detail for about 20 mins after waking. Which is new.

Last night Service Dog had a cameo.

A disturbing development ...
Hmm. Lumping all mortality data together without any consideration of mortality by what or by age, etc. One would expect improved health outcomes and extended lifetimes in certain types of disease since 1990, and since no one gets out of here alive, a population with a typical distribution would be expected to have a similar stock of people shuffling off the coil.

As for your fantasies about Service Dog ...

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KiwiInOz wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:

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I’ve been having vivid, exhausting and slightly anxiety-based dreams for a couple of months. Where you remember them in detail for about 20 mins after waking. Which is new.

Last night Service Dog had a cameo.

A disturbing development ...
Hmm. Lumping all mortality data together without any consideration of mortality by what or by age, etc. One would expect improved health outcomes and extended lifetimes in certain types of disease since 1990, and since no one gets out of here alive, a population with a typical distribution would be expected to have a similar stock of people shuffling off the coil.

As for your fantasies about Service Dog ...
The (debatable) point here is whether the measurable national existential threat posed by economic shutdown was reflected by an existential and measurable increase in deaths in a country which refused this approach.

As to your deflection. I’m not sure if recent technology in Sweden over the past couple of decades has really improved things in a material fashion. Rather I’d expect a slight increase in deaths given increasing Type 2 and the influx of, um, how do we say this? - ah, “third world economic invaders”.

I’d love to read the history of lock down in thirty or forty years time.

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NSW Health says we won’t be going back into lockdown



Clever plan.

I’d point out however that we never had “systemic state wide community transmission”.

:think:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 54w77.html

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Free YouTube Workout Program by Igor Voitenko

This dude takes push-ups to the next level and beyond.

http://igorvoitenko.com/

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:23 am
Some eagle trivia that some might find surprising. They will attack and kill prey that are substantially larger than them, and they are good swimmers. I have seen them swimming to shore from hundreds of yards out.
I did see an eagle attack a medium large dog that was swimming just off the beach once similar to this attack on a yearling Harbor Seal:
https://www.surreynowleader.com/trendin ... t-in-time/
This is pushing it a bit for the eagle because the seal is denser than water (will sink when dead), probably twice as heavy as the eagle, and as the bird's talons frequently lock on their prey it may not be able to unclasp if it was being dragged under.
Eagles have been used to hunt Steppe wolves so I'm not surprised. I would imagine that the plan is to come in from behind and drive the talons through something vital in the neck/skull region and I'd also imagine they can get themselves into trouble if the strike goes wrong. I'm mystified as to how birds manage to prey on venomous snakes though. A snake, especially one like a puff adder with long fangs, can bite a handler if they don't grip it as close as possible to the head, so how birds manage to fly off gripping a live snake around the centre of its body is a mystery.
Don't know about snakes, but it's quite fun to put a camera on an eagle's back and set it off after some hares:


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The only remarkable thing about this photo is that I took it standing right in the middle of my living room! The eagle was sitting in a tree behind the house checking out a raccoon carcass.
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