Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

[Zenspace]

Shameless repost for the other time zones.

[youtube]GTig0gNnxKI[/youtube]

I think this is a fairly accurate take on their position on dialogue.

Another awesome bit of work, Rocko! That will definitely require repeated viewings. :clap:

[Apples]

And the prize for condescending, sanctimonious asshole of the week goes to:

<snip>

This is attempting to silence someone. This is the kind of asshole that totalitarian regimes prefer to recruit as their secret police thugs.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... d-writing/

Dude - that thread is priceless. Skepticismandsprinkles shows up and mildly and politely hints at the obvious truth - that Ophelia is being her own worst enemy by rubbernecking her own trainwrecks, making herself look like a dope and giving juice to her detractors -- at which point Josh the SpokesYap tips over his pram and sets it on fire, going all Flewellyn and interrogating Skepsprinkles about her "hidden agenda."

Sprinkles get's the last word: "Cool story, thanks for continuing to prove your detractors right."

:clap: Nice job, baboons - yet another sympathetic bystander thrown under the bus. I'm sure your campaign to take over the movement will lead to total victory any day now.

Sprinkles, apparently a young woman who was obviously being sincere, actually already has a blogpost up about her feelings on the matter -

http://skepticismandsprinkles.blogspot. ... hings.html

http://www.freezepage.com/1362238465RYMKVOIHTA <---- Ophie's post

[Pitchguest]

Linking back to old Pharyngula, I found this little gem:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010 ... ent-754844

Few of them are quote-mined by Wally Smith, and some of them are comments that have been either memoryholed or "hidden" in the Scienceblogs comment section, but they're still eye-opening. Especially how many times they want people to fuck themselves with various objects in the arse. Like "Go fuck yourself with a chainsaw in that festering pustule of an asshole of yours." Or "Fuck yourself Charles- IN THE ASS." Quite like that one. Short and to the point.

Now these are from the usual suspects, Janine, Wowbagger, etc, etc. Aratina himself gets a few blows in.

However, what REALLY caught my eye - what really stood out - when looking back at old Pharyngula, and this was back in 2009, was this:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009 ... ent-596079

That's from a commenter called 'AnthonyK'. Now, I don't know if this is our current Anthony K or not, but it seems too much of a coincidence not to be. Brownian also existed back then. So did he use two usernames? Because it would be quite amusing if it turned out that 3 years (in fact, I see AnthonyK on Scienceblogs on a blog from 2008 as well so maybe even 4 years) before Reap "doxxed" Anthony, he actually went by the screen name 'AnthonyK'. Do you guys think this is a likely story?

[Pitchguest]

For something completely different, I need some help with a DNA question.

Could anyone (who knows about it thoroughly) please explain to me the process of 'proteine synthesis'? It doesn't have to be concise, but I would prefer it in layman's terms. I tried looking at Wikipedia and its explanation of it and it gave me a headache.

Basically go through the process in parts. Where it begins and what happens there, where it goes and what happens next and so on and so forth and where it ends. Maybe a biologist or virologist? (hint hint)

[Tigzy]

Linking back to old Pharyngula, I found this little gem:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010 ... ent-754844

Few of them are quote-mined by Wally Smith, and some of them are comments that have been either memoryholed or "hidden" in the Scienceblogs comment section, but they're still eye-opening. Especially how many times they want people to fuck themselves with various objects in the arse. Like "Go fuck yourself with a chainsaw in that festering pustule of an asshole of yours." Or "Fuck yourself Charles- IN THE ASS." Quite like that one. Short and to the point.

Pity that most of the linked posts now appear to have, er...disappeared. Would have made fine additions to the museum. Still, the ladylike Aratina's obvious pride at the rapey nasties vented by these 'empathic, decent' people certainly deserves a place there, if nothing else.

Consider it filed with the ever growing backlog.

[Lsuoma]

I'll just leave this here...

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4111

Heh, do they really think Pruney McPrune can walk away from her dramatic victimhood, and all the other tammy stroppers do the same?

In a pig's arse, maybe.

[Badger3k]

I know I just woke up, and I'm a little confused, but I think Erik was right. We do have a rape culture! I have this odd memory of a cartoon, a kid's show, from the 70s I think - I involved a giant purple ape (see the significance of that color?) traveling with this white dildo that talked (I'm a little confused here). I remember the ape used to shout "rape ape" all the time before he did the deed.

I guess the patriarchy made me forget.

(insert wink smiley here - haven't figured if we can do that in tapatalk)

[Pitchguest]

Wow, Googling "giant purple ape" actually worked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Grape_Ape_Show

[SenorBeagle]

Why is Jennifer Connelly here and why is she drunk?

She got lost in the Labyrinth and somehow found herself here? :)

And therefore, logically, David Bowie must be a member here, too.

Own up, which one of you is Ziggy...?

[SenorBeagle]

Wow, Googling "giant purple ape" actually worked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Grape_Ape_Show

That must mean that the white dildo that talked was Beegle Beagle!

-looks at username-

Erm...

[Gefan]

Here's Fincke demonstrating civility in action:

Should I Have Said “Fuck You” To The Woman Who Told Me I Lost My Faith Because I Didn’t Love Jesus Enough?

Now, today a Christian classmate from my college days wrote me to say that she gleaned from my latest installment in my series on my deconversion that the reason I “lost my faith” was that I had legalistically tried to save myself and had put faith in other people rather than simply “relying on [my] relationship with Jesus and [my] love for Him”. My response was severe:

“[Name redacted], with all due respect, fuck you for telling me I didn’t love jesus enough.”

And then I blocked her.

Sorry Justin, I don't see how any of these bozos have earned the standing to lecture others on how to behave.

Once again, here's the essential difference between the Baboon mindset and that of the rest of us.
If someone offers me relationship advice regarding my feelings on their invisible friend, I'm going to see it as a bountiful source of humor.
The Baboon opts for the hissy-fit, banhammer route.

[bhoytony]

Sprinkles, apparently a young woman who was obviously being sincere, actually already has a blogpost up about her feelings on the matter -

http://skepticismandsprinkles.blogspot. ... hings.html

They are going to really love her after they read her description of B&W as a "hive vagina".

[Lsuoma]

Sprinkles, apparently a young woman who was obviously being sincere, actually already has a blogpost up about her feelings on the matter -

http://skepticismandsprinkles.blogspot. ... hings.html

They are going to really love her after they read her description of B&W as a "hive vagina".

Missed that - thanks for pointing it out. That's destined to become a classic, methinks!

[Lsuoma]

Meh, it's already in the geek feminism wiki.

[bhoytony]

Sprinkles, apparently a young woman who was obviously being sincere, actually already has a blogpost up about her feelings on the matter -

http://skepticismandsprinkles.blogspot. ... hings.html

They are going to really love her after they read her description of B&W as a "hive vagina".

Missed that - thanks for pointing it out. That's destined to become a classic, methinks!

They are ripping us off, I thought the Slymepit was Abbie's hive vagina.

[AndrewV69]

I'll just leave this here...

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4111

We've been rebutted?

I didn't realise they'd even gotten to talk about us, they've spent too much time fighting themselves over who is the most pure in the social justice cult.

Good luck to them, I can't wait till they put a bunch of respected female scientists, academics and other professionals back in their place using all their super clevers what they learned on internet blogs.

I hope they start their re-education campaign with sacha, that's definitely going to go very well for them indeed. :D

I followed the link to moving the conversation forward:


And once I got to this point I was slack jawed with amazement:

I will also reference my previous post on the overlap between anti-SJ skeptics’ thinking and that of radical right-wing libertarians.

not only that, but the Right is notorious for astroturfing or creating the illusion of widespread support where little exists. the tactics take many forms, including simply appealing to invisible moderates who — in an amazingly convenient confluence of events — stand exactly between the Left and the Right, provide a crucial pillar of support for the Left to attain its goals, and apparently get scared and run away unless the Left concedes something or other to the Right (apparently, this doesn’t apply to the Right’s refusal to concede anything to the Left).

I do not even ....

What? Is it something in the water?

...

WTF man?

[Lurkion]

Skepchick has just launched a sister site, wherein the discuss the finer points of ass to mouth:

http://schoolofdoubt.com/2013/03/01/tea ... on-of-sex/

You can't make this stuff up!

The study guide for that course:

http://www.mediaed.org/assets/products/ ... de_235.pdf

In America today, it is nearly impossible to escape the clutter of erotic and pornographic
imagery.

Sound anything like gender feminism?

Ugh. Fucking radfems.

I started apparently half of all porn contains ass to mouth. Here's me thinking it was not that common bu what would I know - I watch all my porn directly and don't get it via radfems who surely wouldn't do bogus statistics.

[Lsuoma]

And once I got to this point I was slack jawed with amazement:

I will also reference my previous post on the overlap between anti-SJ skeptics’ thinking and that of radical right-wing libertarians.

not only that, but the Right is notorious for astroturfing or creating the illusion of widespread support where little exists. the tactics take many forms, including simply appealing to invisible moderates who — in an amazingly convenient confluence of events — stand exactly between the Left and the Right, provide a crucial pillar of support for the Left to attain its goals, and apparently get scared and run away unless the Left concedes something or other to the Right (apparently, this doesn’t apply to the Right’s refusal to concede anything to the Left).

I do not even ....

What? Is it something in the water?

...

WTF man?

It's the classic extremist behavior of trying to gain cred by outcrazying one's peers. I'm reminded of Lt Verkramp's terrorists in "Indecent Exposure" by Tom Sharpe.

[bhoytony]

I'll just leave this here...



I followed the link to moving the conversation forward:

Fuck me sideways, I've just had a quick look around at that site. That fucking halfwit is absolutely puddled.

[bhoytony]

It's the classic extremist behavior of trying to gain cred by outcrazying one's peers. I'm reminded of Lt Verkramp's terrorists in "Indecent Exposure" by Tom Sharpe.

A man after my own heart. Those early Tom Sharpe books are works of genius.

[LMU]

For something completely different, I need some help with a DNA question.

Could anyone (who knows about it thoroughly) please explain to me the process of 'proteine synthesis'? It doesn't have to be concise, but I would prefer it in layman's terms. I tried looking at Wikipedia and its explanation of it and it gave me a headache.

Basically go through the process in parts. Where it begins and what happens there, where it goes and what happens next and so on and so forth and where it ends. Maybe a biologist or virologist? (hint hint)

How much detail do you need? The least detailed version is that DNA is transcribed to make messenger RNA which is translated to make protein. If you just want to know how the mRNA is translated into protein then you probably want to know about the ribosome and translation. The wikipedia pages are actually pretty good. There's a neat little animation at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translation_(biology)

Sorry, I realize that doesn't really answer your question, it's just that a very detailed description would be kind of long and I don't have my textbooks with me so I might screw it up, and a broader description is actually better done at wikipedia.

[bhoytony]

For something completely different, I need some help with a DNA question.

Could anyone (who knows about it thoroughly) please explain to me the process of 'proteine synthesis'? It doesn't have to be concise, but I would prefer it in layman's terms. I tried looking at Wikipedia and its explanation of it and it gave me a headache.

Basically go through the process in parts. Where it begins and what happens there, where it goes and what happens next and so on and so forth and where it ends. Maybe a biologist or virologist? (hint hint)

This isn't what you asked for, but I recently read a great description of the process. I think it was in Life Ascending by Nick Lane if my memory serves me correctly.

[DGS]

Yes, you can do that. You just have to read the previous 55,000 posts first, then you can comment on the last 2 posts.

Never EVER gonna happen. Being from the UK I have a smattering of what has happened during this 'schism' (I've pissed Ophelia off big time by using archaic religious language like 'schism' and 'creeds' of feminism - I never meant to, I just thought they were handy terms and, as an actor, I'm playful and I love language...I got nothing but crudities back (not crudités) back. That confused me (didn't make me angry - just wasn't what I was expecting - I'm not an angry person which is why I probably won't contribute to this thread much, other than to dip in and do so lightly)

As I'm from the UK though maybe I'm underestimating the 'big deal' that this all might be. The whole atheist movement isn't big here as most people are atheists. From my perspective though, it looks rather than you being excommunicated, you have been freed? (? genuine there)....So when you gonna find closure and gets to business?? Who CARES what Ophelia thinks - or Myres? You already know they are - maybe not wrong on some things - but totally nuts at the moment. I'm a bot worried about them. They're the idiots right now. Stop arguing with them (arguing with idiots makes more gross idiots - like the world needs that [because we're all idiots sometimes - never forget that!]) and work out what this is for...

I quite enjoy the discussions here about the ridiculous things the feminist bloggers say and do. That and the good company here (very creative, intelligent, and funny group of people) is why I'm here. As for ignoring the feminist bloggers and moving on to other things? No way. Not until they stop saying and doing absurd things. We could be here for a very long time. I'll make the coffee, could someone else make the popcorn?

I was very drunk when I wrote that :oops: Lets just pretend it never happened :shifty:

[Karmakin]

And once I got to this point I was slack jawed with amazement:

I will also reference my previous post on the overlap between anti-SJ skeptics’ thinking and that of radical right-wing libertarians.

not only that, but the Right is notorious for astroturfing or creating the illusion of widespread support where little exists. the tactics take many forms, including simply appealing to invisible moderates who — in an amazingly convenient confluence of events — stand exactly between the Left and the Right, provide a crucial pillar of support for the Left to attain its goals, and apparently get scared and run away unless the Left concedes something or other to the Right (apparently, this doesn’t apply to the Right’s refusal to concede anything to the Left).

I do not even ....

What? Is it something in the water?

...

WTF man?

Don't be TOO shocked at that, what he describes is actually a very real part of the American political scene. The left are expected to concede much more than the right ever will, and centrists very well are less concerned being moderate in terms of policy ideas, and more in terms of looking like they're moderate by staking out the perfect claim between the two sides. This really does have the effect of moving the discussion to the right. (Note. I don't actually blame conservatives for this, it's not their fault, but it's the problem of said centrists. Did I mention that these centrists annoy the holy living fuck out of me?)

Where Setar is wrong here is that the SJW's are not on the left here, they're on the RIGHT. As in, moderates/centrists are generally taking steps towards them, and not vice versa. I actually don't think this is necessarily a bad thing in all situations, but it certainly flies in the face of the whole idea of there being this massive sexism/racism "problem" inherent among skeptics/atheists.

To the credit of mostly everybody here, I don't think there are very many people here at all who oppose the SJW's root and branch...that is, that we reject everything that they want/work for just because they're the ones saying it (although that consideration most certainly does NOT come back the other way), but it does mean that the general momentum will usually flow in their direction, which is where the analogy falls flat.

I really do think that the "end-goal" here is to get them to open up and to actually have a REAL discussion on these issues that they say are oh so important, and to start with the ESSENTIAL questions that need to be asked...and answered..when talk about policy change.

#1. What is the scale/size of the problem you're trying to fix?
#2. What are the root causes of the problem you're trying to fix?
#3. How best to treat the symptoms/effects of the problem you're trying to fix? What are the costs of this? Are the costs more than the problem itself?
#4. How best to treat the root causes of the problem you're trying to fix? What are the costs of this? Are the costs more than the problem itself?

The typical SJW response to this is IT'S THE PATRIARCHY!!! AND IT'S FREE TO SMASH IT SO WE SHOULD SMASH IT!!!! and they don't say much more than that. Even assuming that their theoretical model is valid (it's not), it's still just a theoretical model and it's impossible to convert into the real world.

Anyway. Sorry about the rant. It's been a long week and I felt like venting :p

[Apples]

I was very drunk when I wrote that :oops: Lets just pretend it never happened :shifty:

Well, no need to go that far... You have a point, which is that perhaps these folks are simply marginal and may be safely ignored. Problem is that they've still got a fair amount of clout -- PZ's blog is still very popular and he does get speaking engagements, Melody Hensley is a higher-up at the CFI, EllenBeth Wachs is fairly irrelevant but heads a regional atheists' org and sticks her nose everywhere, Rebecca Watson is "the face of skepticism" for a lot of people. The TAM conference, which they attacked last year, looks to be boycotting them, which is a great sign of progress. Ophie is mostly good for the lulz and seems to be fading fast.

Does seem that the 'skeptic' side of the community is starting to shake them off, but the atheist side still has a long row to hoe.

As a reminder of the kind of people we're dealing with, Svan's petition against Justin Vacula is always worth a read (by the way - has anyone ever fisked this thing?):

http://www.change.org/petitions/secular ... ter-of-sca

[DGS]

As a reminder of the kind of people we're dealing with, Svan's petition against Justin Vacula is always worth a read (by the way - has anyone ever fisked this thing?):

http://www.change.org/petitions/secular ... ter-of-sca

Wow. Now I'm fantasising about what I would do with a list of actual names of people who were trying to destroy me.

I would also see it as a huge compliment. In evolutionary theory it's called the 'derogation of rivals'. Justin must be some rival!

[AndrewV69]

For something completely different, I need some help with a DNA question.

Could anyone (who knows about it thoroughly) please explain to me the process of 'proteine synthesis'? It doesn't have to be concise, but I would prefer it in layman's terms. I tried looking at Wikipedia and its explanation of it and it gave me a headache.

Basically go through the process in parts. Where it begins and what happens there, where it goes and what happens next and so on and so forth and where it ends. Maybe a biologist or virologist? (hint hint)

Not a biologist, not even remotely. But if I think I understand this then so should you:

Need help with protein synthesis in biology for dummy terms?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 310AAIKeIn

The video links do not work so try these (read the description of the youtube videos)

Transcription
[youtube]WsofH466lqk[/youtube]

Translation
[youtube]5bLEDd-PSTQ[/youtube]

[Skep tickle]

For something completely different, I need some help with a DNA question.

Could anyone (who knows about it thoroughly) please explain to me the process of 'proteine synthesis'? It doesn't have to be concise, but I would prefer it in layman's terms. I tried looking at Wikipedia and its explanation of it and it gave me a headache.

Basically go through the process in parts. Where it begins and what happens there, where it goes and what happens next and so on and so forth and where it ends. Maybe a biologist or virologist? (hint hint)

How much detail do you need? The least detailed version is that DNA is transcribed to make messenger RNA which is translated to make protein. If you just want to know how the mRNA is translated into protein then you probably want to know about the ribosome and translation. The wikipedia pages are actually pretty good. There's a neat little animation at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translation_(biology)

Sorry, I realize that doesn't really answer your question, it's just that a very detailed description would be kind of long and I don't have my textbooks with me so I might screw it up, and a broader description is actually better done at wikipedia.

Concur, including that there is good info on wikipedia, and inviting you to expand on how much detail you want (& at what level). To expand just a bit: DNA is a template for mRNA, which in ribosomes is used as a template for lining up the correct sequence of tRNA, which lines up the correct sequence of amino acids (since each is to a tRNA molecule, with each of the amino acids (20 different ones in humans, I think?) being identified with 1-6 specific 3-base "codes" (codons) in the nucleic acid). As the tRNA lines up, the amino acids line up, and bind amino (N) end to carboxyl (C) end, extending in the process from a single amino acid to a progressively longer peptide chain, which will then undergo its folding as or after it detaches from the tRNA/ribosome complex.

(Caveat, that's based on biology initially learned 30 yrs ago, & it's not an area I specifically keep up in.)

mRNA = messenger RNA
tRNA = transfer RNA

[Apples]

I would also see it as a huge compliment. In evolutionary theory it's called the 'derogation of rivals'. Justin must be some rival!

And it was a pretty serious warning to anyone else inclined to ask too many questions about the attempt to institute their brand of lefty gender feminism as a litmus-test for participation in the movement. Thus, the Slymepit.

[Jan Steen]

However, what REALLY caught my eye - what really stood out - when looking back at old Pharyngula, and this was back in 2009, was this:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009 ... ent-596079

That's from a commenter called 'AnthonyK'. Now, I don't know if this is our current Anthony K or not, but it seems too much of a coincidence not to be. Brownian also existed back then. So did he use two usernames? Because it would be quite amusing if it turned out that 3 years (in fact, I see AnthonyK on Scienceblogs on a blog from 2008 as well so maybe even 4 years) before Reap "doxxed" Anthony, he actually went by the screen name 'AnthonyK'. Do you guys think this is a likely story?

Yup, I think AnthonyK and Anthony K are one and the same. It would be an incredible coincidence to find two almost indistinguishable but different assholes using the same 'nym on the same blog. Was he a sockpuppet?

[Git]

To the credit of mostly everybody here, I don't think there are very many people here at all who oppose the SJW's root and branch...that is, that we reject everything that they want/work for just because they're the ones saying it (although that consideration most certainly does NOT come back the other way), but it does mean that the general momentum will usually flow in their direction, which is where the analogy falls flat.

I fucking well do. Mention "social justice" in my presence and you'll get hit with a hammer. "Social Justice" is just a stalking horse for totalitarian collectivism and the poison of identity politics.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Complete OT:

I've worked with bands before, like, some needing CD arrangements, or live performances. So far, I have never once been paid. the most I ever had was from a local band that needed me for a live show as a guest singer. 20 euros. Then there is that Belgian band that had me work for 4 months on their arrangements, and I never saw a dime. Neither straight forward nor as a percentage of royalties. Working for the first time with a band that seems to be honest and pay as the project goes along. Big breath of fresh air (well, I'll confirm next week). I hope it turns out ok, else we won't be able to cover our food bill.

Anyway, donate button in my signature. If you can't find it, it means you don't care!

/steaming out, sorry folks.

[Pitchguest]

For something completely different, I need some help with a DNA question.

Could anyone (who knows about it thoroughly) please explain to me the process of 'proteine synthesis'? It doesn't have to be concise, but I would prefer it in layman's terms. I tried looking at Wikipedia and its explanation of it and it gave me a headache.

Basically go through the process in parts. Where it begins and what happens there, where it goes and what happens next and so on and so forth and where it ends. Maybe a biologist or virologist? (hint hint)

How much detail do you need? The least detailed version is that DNA is transcribed to make messenger RNA which is translated to make protein. If you just want to know how the mRNA is translated into protein then you probably want to know about the ribosome and translation. The wikipedia pages are actually pretty good. There's a neat little animation at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translation_(biology)

Sorry, I realize that doesn't really answer your question, it's just that a very detailed description would be kind of long and I don't have my textbooks with me so I might screw it up, and a broader description is actually better done at wikipedia.

Basically a walkthrough on what each component does in the process (from ribosomes to tRNA, mRNA, transcription, translation, etc), like this happens, then this happens, then this happens. Although I realise that working from memory, some information is going to be paraphrased. It's just that when I tried to get a grip on the specifics, I just couldn't do it. Hence my request to do it in layman's terms. I know what the process is in summary, I just can't seem to come to terms with what happens at each crossroad and how it works.

But I'm going to watch the video in that link, and the videos that Andrew linked. Cheers for those.

Skep tickle - Your recollection is stunning, I was taught this a year ago and that's the summary I got from it but I can't make heads or tails of the actual process; what's involved. I'm dim like that.

[mordacious1]

Jerry has an article https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... ery-store/ about ducks today, which reminded me of this joke which I know he wouldn't allow, so I'm posting it here instead (with slight modifications):

Ducks in Heaven
Ophelia and two of her female friends are leaving a "Women Skeptics" meeting, get hit by a bus, die and go to Heaven. When they get there, St Peter says, "Don't worry about being atheists, we don't care. We only have one rule here in Heaven: Don't step on the ducks!"

They enter Heaven, and sure enough, there are ducks all over the place. It is almost impossible not to step on a duck, and although they try their best to avoid them, the first woman accidentally steps on one.

Along comes St Peter with the ugliest man she ever saw. St Peter chains them together and says, "Your punishment for stepping on a duck is to spend eternity chained to this ugly man." Ophelia remarks to her friend that the man was hideous and they'd better be careful.

The next day, the second woman steps accidentally on a duck, and along comes St Peter, who doesn't miss a thing, and with him is another extremely ugly man (in fact, it was Greg Laden's long lost twin brother). He chains them together with the same admonishment as for the first woman.

Ophelia has observed all this and not wanting to be chained for all eternity to an ugly man, is very, VERY careful where she steps. She manages to go months without stepping on any ducks, but one day St Peter comes up to her with the most handsome man she has ever laid eyes on. He is tall, tanned, slim and muscular.

St Peter chains them together without saying a word.

Ophelia, thinking that this is great, remarks, "I always said I didn't like men on Earth, but I lied. I always wanted to be with one, especially a handsome one. I wonder what I did to deserve being chained to you for all of eternity."

The guy says, "I don't know about you, but I stepped on a duck."

[Pitchguest]

However, what REALLY caught my eye - what really stood out - when looking back at old Pharyngula, and this was back in 2009, was this:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009 ... ent-596079

That's from a commenter called 'AnthonyK'. Now, I don't know if this is our current Anthony K or not, but it seems too much of a coincidence not to be. Brownian also existed back then. So did he use two usernames? Because it would be quite amusing if it turned out that 3 years (in fact, I see AnthonyK on Scienceblogs on a blog from 2008 as well so maybe even 4 years) before Reap "doxxed" Anthony, he actually went by the screen name 'AnthonyK'. Do you guys think this is a likely story?

Yup, I think AnthonyK and Anthony K are one and the same. It would be an incredible coincidence to find two almost indistinguishable but different assholes using the same 'nym on the same blog. Was he a sockpuppet?

I don't know for sure, but I imagine so. It's odd, though, because in some instances it would seem he actually talks to himself.

Case in point: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009 ... ent-609369

[Dick Strawkins]

For something completely different, I need some help with a DNA question.

Could anyone (who knows about it thoroughly) please explain to me the process of 'proteine synthesis'? It doesn't have to be concise, but I would prefer it in layman's terms. I tried looking at Wikipedia and its explanation of it and it gave me a headache.

Basically go through the process in parts. Where it begins and what happens there, where it goes and what happens next and so on and so forth and where it ends. Maybe a biologist or virologist? (hint hint)

How much detail do you need? The least detailed version is that DNA is transcribed to make messenger RNA which is translated to make protein. If you just want to know how the mRNA is translated into protein then you probably want to know about the ribosome and translation. The wikipedia pages are actually pretty good. There's a neat little animation at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translation_(biology)

Sorry, I realize that doesn't really answer your question, it's just that a very detailed description would be kind of long and I don't have my textbooks with me so I might screw it up, and a broader description is actually better done at wikipedia.

Basically a walkthrough on what each component does in the process (from ribosomes to tRNA, mRNA, transcription, translation, etc), like this happens, then this happens, then this happens. Although I realise that working from memory, some information is going to be paraphrased. It's just that when I tried to get a grip on the specifics, I just couldn't do it. Hence my request to do it in layman's terms. I know what the process is in summary, I just can't seem to come to terms with what happens at each crossroad and how it works.

But I'm going to watch the video in that link, and the videos that Andrew linked. Cheers for those.

Skep tickle - Your recollection is stunning, I was taught this a year ago and that's the summary I got from it but I can't make heads or tails of the actual process; what's involved. I'm dim like that.

I was going to suggest you look it up on youtube.
I teach a university course on this subject (it's more transcription based, but includes some translation) and find that some decent youtube clips on the topic are a good way to give a basic idea to the class.

[skepandsprinkles]

Sprinkles, apparently a young woman who was obviously being sincere, actually already has a blogpost up about her feelings on the matter -

http://skepticismandsprinkles.blogspot. ... hings.html

They are going to really love her after they read her description of B&W as a "hive vagina".

Nah, I can't go any lower than "sexism loving scum of the earth"

[DW Adams]

Sprinkles, apparently a young woman who was obviously being sincere, actually already has a blogpost up about her feelings on the matter -

http://skepticismandsprinkles.blogspot. ... hings.html

They are going to really love her after they read her description of B&W as a "hive vagina".

Nah, I can't go any lower than "sexism loving scum of the earth"

regardless, this is quite signature worth:

Post in a thread stating an opinion that differs from what looks more and more like a hive vagina: Previous positive postings ignored. You are now an enemy with an agenda. WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR?!

Welcome to the Pit!

[LMU]

Basically a walkthrough on what each component does in the process (from ribosomes to tRNA, mRNA, transcription, translation, etc), like this happens, then this happens, then this happens. Although I realise that working from memory, some information is going to be paraphrased. It's just that when I tried to get a grip on the specifics, I just couldn't do it. Hence my request to do it in layman's terms. I know what the process is in summary, I just can't seem to come to terms with what happens at each crossroad and how it works.

But I'm going to watch the video in that link, and the videos that Andrew linked. Cheers for those.

Skep tickle - Your recollection is stunning, I was taught this a year ago and that's the summary I got from it but I can't make heads or tails of the actual process; what's involved. I'm dim like that.

I went looking for something on http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/ but it doesn't seem to have anything useful to you (the biochem class 5.08J doesn't have video lectures and the lecture note pdfs don't seem like what you are looking for).

The videos Andrew linked are pretty good. I recommend watching them and if that doesn't help then we'll see what we can do (I feel sort of like an Aplusser for telling you to go elsewhere :oops: ).

[windy]

Sorry Justin, I don't see how any of these bozos have earned the standing to lecture others on how to behave.

you mean in the thread where he provides the full context of why he said it and how it relates, admitted a temper problem, apologized for it, and linked to other posts in the extended conversation about it all?

It's not the outburst, it's the refusal to engage. Understandable with his history, but it's nothing to brag about. The Christian he told off shows up somewhere in the comments to apologise, but instead of trying to engage them in conversation, there's more wankery about how righteous Dan's response was. The "extended conversation" is basically just a debate on what's the correct way to tell the "privileged" to fuck off.

regardless of what you think about that outburst, or about ones from pz or watson, the problem comes not from THAT it was done or that the person is "lecturing" others, but when they are completely oblivious to all the implications, and completely incapable of self-reflection

That's an even bigger problem, sure. But I'm not convinced that Fincke was engaging in 'self-reflection' there, looks more like 'rationalization'. (by the way, do I know you from somewhere,
Guest?)

[Badger3k]

Skepchick has just launched a sister site, wherein the discuss the finer points of ass to mouth:

http://schoolofdoubt.com/2013/03/01/tea ... on-of-sex/

You can't make this stuff up!

The study guide for that course:

http://www.mediaed.org/assets/products/ ... de_235.pdf

In America today, it is nearly impossible to escape the clutter of erotic and pornographic
imagery.

Sound anything like gender feminism?

Ugh. Fucking radfems.

I started apparently half of all porn contains ass to mouth. Here's me thinking it was not that common bu what would I know - I watch all my porn directly and don't get it via radfems who surely wouldn't do bogus statistics.

Just search for torrents and you'll see some - it does seem to be the current fad - but it doesn't seem to be half (or even close to that).

Of course, I'm thinking of this while I'm watching Tanked on Netflix, and they fix something and Wayde says "ATM style, baby" (the name of the company). I had to chuckle.

[DW Adams]

worthy*, gd it

[LMU]

Sprinkles, apparently a young woman who was obviously being sincere, actually already has a blogpost up about her feelings on the matter -

http://skepticismandsprinkles.blogspot. ... hings.html

They are going to really love her after they read her description of B&W as a "hive vagina".

Nah, I can't go any lower than "sexism loving scum of the earth"

Hello and welcome! We have mountain dew and crab juice. There may be a greeting committee along later with the ritual baskets and salutations.

[skepandsprinkles]

Welcome to the Pit!

Thanks. And thanks for the support or whatever the hell has been offered up to me here. As I've said in places some people here have read I disagree with people's views or actions sometimes, even here and by people that support here (like I know it's fun to troll, but I think you're sending a few of the FtB's to an early grave. Their blood pressure must be through the roof). We can still be friends, at least from where I'm standing.

Or would I be told to fuck off if that happened?

[Gumby]

Sprinkles, apparently a young woman who was obviously being sincere, actually already has a blogpost up about her feelings on the matter -

http://skepticismandsprinkles.blogspot. ... hings.html

They are going to really love her after they read her description of B&W as a "hive vagina".

Nah, I can't go any lower than "sexism loving scum of the earth"

Welcome, skepandsprinkles!

Also,

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... e70ff9.jpg

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Sprinkles, apparently a young woman who was obviously being sincere, actually already has a blogpost up about her feelings on the matter -

http://skepticismandsprinkles.blogspot. ... hings.html

They are going to really love her after they read her description of B&W as a "hive vagina".

Nah, I can't go any lower than "sexism loving scum of the earth"

Hello and welcome! We have mountain dew and crab juice. There may be a greeting committee along later with the ritual baskets and salutations.

http://cdn9.wn.com/pd/f9/74/d98a78858dc ... grande.jpg

Fuck off!

[Mr Danksworth]

To the credit of mostly everybody here, I don't think there are very many people here at all who oppose the SJW's root and branch...that is, that we reject everything that they want/work for just because they're the ones saying it (although that consideration most certainly does NOT come back the other way), but it does mean that the general momentum will usually flow in their direction, which is where the analogy falls flat.

I fucking well do. Mention "social justice" in my presence and you'll get hit with a hammer. "Social Justice" is just a stalking horse for totalitarian collectivism and the poison of identity politics.

I have to disagree. There is nothing wrong with social justice. I have numerous friends in the mental health, social services and poverty advocacy field. I myself, have a step-son with some pretty challenging learning disabilities. There is nothing worse than having some rabid 22 year old know-nothing telling you how to raise your child or go about the job that one has trained to do.

We see the SJW's as a threat. It's the added 'W' on the end that denotes a particular ideology. We know that the SJWs poison the hard work that people in these fields do. It is a shame that the term 'social justice' has been co-opted by a bunch of whiny special snowflakes who have no idea what the real work entails.

[Git]

http://www.posterworx.co.nz/images/gen_ ... Cats_G.jpg

Welcome. Here's your welcome basket of links. A nice basket of pussy, I'm sure you'll agree.

[bhoytony]

Welcome to the Pit!

Thanks. And thanks for the support or whatever the hell has been offered up to me here. As I've said in places some people here have read I disagree with people's views or actions sometimes, even here and by people that support here (like I know it's fun to troll, but I think you're sending a few of the FtB's to an early grave. Their blood pressure must be through the roof). We can still be friends, at least from where I'm standing.

Or would I be told to fuck off if that happened?

You will be told to fuck off here anyway, it is the traditional greeting. You don't need to agree with anybody here, I disagree with them all, the bastards.

[Lsuoma]

Fuck you all up the robin!

[AbsurdWalls]

Ophelia and two of her female friends are leaving a "Women Skeptics" meeting, get hit by a bus...

I can't believe you would post such a blatant threat, even here. Hopefully Lsuoma will remove it and ban you.

[bhoytony]

I have to disagree. There is nothing wrong with social justice. I have numerous friends in the mental health, social services and poverty advocacy field. I myself, have a step-son with some pretty challenging learning disabilities. There is nothing worse than having some rabid 22 year old know-nothing telling you how to raise your child or go about the job that one has trained to do.

We see the SJW's as a threat. It's the added 'W' on the end that denotes a particular ideology. We know that the SJWs poison the hard work that people in these fields do. It is a shame that the term 'social justice' has been co-opted by a bunch of whiny special snowflakes who have no idea what the real work entails.

I agree, social justice is supposed to be justice in society. I see nothing wrong with that, I'm all for social justice, not too keen on those fucking social justice warriors.

[John Brown]

Welcome to the Pit!

Thanks. And thanks for the support or whatever the hell has been offered up to me here. As I've said in places some people here have read I disagree with people's views or actions sometimes, even here and by people that support here (like I know it's fun to troll, but I think you're sending a few of the FtB's to an early grave. Their blood pressure must be through the roof). We can still be friends, at least from where I'm standing.

Or would I be told to fuck off if that happened?

I actually abhorre trolling. I've just never seen the point of it. However, when it comes to people like EllenBeth Wachs, it's warranted. She goes out of her way to search out other people's pages, twitter feeds, etc... to spew all kinds of invective. She calls people racists, misogynists, rapists, stalkers, etc, out of hand. She has absolutely no problem attempting to ruin other people's lives and reputations with impunity, but she cries like a petulant little child when people @ her on Twitter.

In her case, I make the exception. All you have to do is say one tiny thing about her and then sit back and watch the magic happen. It's glorious, and she does every bit of it to herself.

[skepandsprinkles]

I guess a few rabid readers missed the part where I have a vagina. With all my submitting to the patriarchy it has probably warped into a mangina, so I understand their confusion.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Welcome to the Pit!

Thanks. And thanks for the support or whatever the hell has been offered up to me here. As I've said in places some people here have read I disagree with people's views or actions sometimes, even here and by people that support here (like I know it's fun to troll, but I think you're sending a few of the FtB's to an early grave. Their blood pressure must be through the roof). We can still be friends, at least from where I'm standing.

Or would I be told to fuck off if that happened?

You will be told to fuck off here anyway, it is the traditional greeting. You don't need to agree with anybody here, I disagree with them all, the bastards.

Yeah, I totally agree with that senti... no, wait!

[Lsuoma]

I guess a few rabid readers missed the part where I have a vagina. With all my submitting to the patriarchy it has probably warped into a mangina, so I understand their confusion.

I didn't: your vag was clearly in vie the whole time from where I was sitting.

[codelette]

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... 69c614.jpg

Hey Setar, maybe if you didn't treat everyone in your life with spittle-flecked contempt, maybe you wouldn't need to write tweets like that. You pathetic asshole.

A hint?
http://i.imgur.com/psj0ZyQ.png
That's so stalinist of you, my dear!

You know who's not lonely? This evil libertarian. I have friends of various political leanings (up and including to evil communists 8-) ) and we all get along fine. We even learn shit from each other whenever we talk about politics.
But then, what do I know...I'm just a "reactionary".

[skepandsprinkles]

I guess a few rabid readers missed the part where I have a vagina. With all my submitting to the patriarchy it has probably warped into a mangina, so I understand their confusion.

I didn't: your vag was clearly in vie the whole time from where I was sitting.

It probably was. Nothing sets my heart aflutter and my trigger triggering than being treat as an object for entertainment. I'll have to buy some BIC pens for her to cancel it out.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I guess a few rabid readers missed the part where I have a vagina. With all my submitting to the patriarchy it has probably warped into a mangina, so I understand their confusion.

You know the best part about vaginas? Unless someone is closely afiliated with one, and talking about that particular vagina, it's all irrelevant.

[bhoytony]

I guess a few rabid readers missed the part where I have a vagina. With all my submitting to the patriarchy it has probably warped into a mangina, so I understand their confusion.

It's fairly obvious, I mean the sprinkles bit is all girly isn't it?