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Should Myers' taking in in the ass in "Anal Cravings 13" and "In Through The Out Door 13" result in being fired from teaching?

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well, everyone does that. Who isn't unhappy when a really sweet gig falls through?

But, the "porn-shaming" (if you've a better phrase, by all means use it. Please!) thing is real, the data on it is pretty clear. And like everything, there are some current/former porn folks who don't help their case much. But it's got to be hard when you don't know if you failed an audition because you got a fair shot and it sucked, or because you did something as a career a while go, and because of that thing you're not doing anymore, you're not even getting the fair chance.

I know that my lack of a bachelor's has caused me problems when it came to getting new gigs in the past. I've been slowly working on that, but it's not like I can just stop working to get a degree.

I also know, given my career field and its odd reality, that my age also hurts me.

The degree thing sucks, but ultimately, that's my fault. I have, I think, if not good reasons for not getting a degree, at least reasons that are not stupid. Well, a plethora of reasons depending on which time in college i'm talking about. There's one that's just fucking stupid.

But that doesn't change the fact that I don't have a degree, so I'm trying to fix that. I can at least look at that and say "It sucks, but I can fix that." So it's not TOO bad.

The age thing? What the fuck can I do about the fact that I've not been in my early 20s for well, over 20 years? Nothing. That's nothing I have any control over, and so getting the shaft for age? That burns man, because there's no way to fix that. I can't suddenly be born in 1987 instead of 1967. That is something out of my control and when I don't even get a fair shot because of my birth year?

That's some bullshit.

Like I said, (and none of us know, I'm pretty sure we've not seen Bree Olsen's mainstream auditions. but I could be wrong), if she is legitimately a shit actor, okay, she's a shit actor. And that sucks, but that's something she can do something about, at least somewhat.

But if she's rejected before she even gets a chance to try solely because she used to do porn? That's some bullshit there.
I am surprised that in your 40's that anyone cares whether you have a degree or not. At this stage experience should count for much more. While I have a degree it is not relevant to my profession and the fact that I don't have any of the relevant professional qualifications either makes no difference - it is experience that counts.

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Sharon Mitchell. Not a nurse... former modern dancer... turned PhD. Founder of the Adult Industry Medical Health Care Foundation, which tested about 1200 performers per month for HIV... until their database was leaked in 2011.

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Service Dog wrote:[youtube]9NyzCJx4IiI[/youtube]
From professional sex object, to professional victim.

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That's right, Sharon Mitchell. I was going to say that, but the dirty Dog beat me to it. I was a fan of hers, in days gone-by.

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Jan Steen wrote:Otherwise, he is, like Aron Ra, an intellectual lightweight who has made a career out of his atheism without ever saying anything noteworthy.
Without knowing much about him, what's the difference between Silverman and Nugent? Both are more known for the organizations they run than any individual writings or bombshell best-sellers.

I don't mean to be too accusatory. I know the Vacula affair was a pretty appalling misstep and unlike Nugent's past smearing of the Pit he's never made up for it. But not being a trailblazer alone isn't enough to say someone's bad. I still think Aron's old videos were decent enough contributions even if they didn't break any new ground, and he only really soured when he started turning a blind eye to the woo infesting his friends.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Tracy Lords (who was underage during most of her porn carrier...
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Sunder wrote:
Jan Steen wrote:Otherwise, he is, like Aron Ra, an intellectual lightweight who has made a career out of his atheism without ever saying anything noteworthy.
Without knowing much about him, what's the difference between Silverman and Nugent? Both are more known for the organizations they run than any individual writings or bombshell best-sellers.

I don't mean to be too accusatory. I know the Vacula affair was a pretty appalling misstep and unlike Nugent's past smearing of the Pit he's never made up for it. But not being a trailblazer alone isn't enough to say someone's bad. I still think Aron's old videos were decent enough contributions even if they didn't break any new ground, and he only really soured when he started turning a blind eye to the woo infesting his friends.
Nugent has a sense of honor, while Silverman will say whatever he thinks will help his cause at the moment. Nugget is consistent and you know he seems to say what he means. Silverman is a political tool and will flutter any way the wind is blowing. He's untrustworthy and basically a piece of shit.

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Badger3k wrote:Nugent has a sense of honor, while Silverman will say whatever he thinks will help his cause at the moment. Nugget is consistent and you know he seems to say what he means. Silverman is a political tool and will flutter any way the wind is blowing. He's untrustworthy and basically a piece of shit.
Fair enough.

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Jan Steen wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:
rayshul wrote:

Snopes is infected
Well, krep. I was just going to post this, hadn't seen the KiA post.

This was more aimed at Peez's fuming horseshit, but yeah, there's something terribly wrong with Snopes' "debunking".

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“I legitimately feared for my life,” Paula Camila Alarcon, a freshman at Emory who identifies as Latino, told The Daily Beast. “I thought we were having a KKK rally on campus.”

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“This wasn’t ordinary campaigning,” Jonathan Peraza, another member of LatinAction and a freshman at Emory, said of the chalkings. “It was deliberate intimidation. Some of us were expecting shootings. We feared walking alone.”

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“To us, the administration’s silence sanctioned the fact that this Nazi reincarnate is threatening to deport our parents—to put us in concentration camps and kill us,” said Peraza.

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“I think it was an act of violence,” Oshin said of the chalkings. “It was an active threat, intentionally meant to create opposition on campus and to segregate groups on campus that are already segregated.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -them.html
“I’m supposed to feel comfortable and safe [here],” one student said. “But this man is being supported by students on our campus and our administration shows that they, by their silence, support it as well … I don’t deserve to feel afraid at my school,” she added.

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“What are we feeling?” Peraza asked those assembled. Responses of “frustration” and “fear” came from around the room, but individual students soon began to offer more detailed, personal reactions to feelings of racial tension that Trump and his ideology bring to the fore.

“How can you not [disavow Trump] when Trump’s platform and his values undermine Emory’s values that I believe are diversity and inclusivity when they are obviously not [something that Trump supports]” one student said tearfully. “Banning Muslims? How is that something Emory supports?” asked yet another.

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He addressed several questions throughout the time in the board room, including “Why did the swastikas [on the AEPi house in Fall 2014] receive a quick response while these chalkings did not?” to which Wagner replied that they “represented an outside threat” and clarified that it was a second set of swastikas that received a swift response from the University. “What do we have to do for you to listen to us?” students asked Wagner directly, to which he asked, “What actions should I take?” One student asked if Emory would send out a University-wide email to “decry the support for this fascist, racist candidate” to which Wagner replied, “No, we will not.” One student clarified that “the University doesn’t have to say they don’t support Trump, but just to acknowledge that there are students on this campus who feel this way about what’s happening … to acknowledge all of us here.”

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Grievances were not restricted to shortcomings of the administration. “[Faculty] are supporting this rhetoric by not ending it,” said one student, who went on to say that “people of color are struggling academically because they are so focused on trying to have a safe community and focus on these issues [related to having safe spaces on campus].”

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Representatives of Emory’s College Council and Student Government Association also issued a statement after the meeting, indicating students who were upset would be able to attend counseling.

The statement stated “In the joint email sent on behalf of CC and SGA, representatives wrote that they “remain unapologetically dedicated to inclusion, diversity and equity,” and that both institutions will stand in solidarity with any Emory students who have encountered a lack of safety and support. To provide Emory students an opportunity to discuss such support and inclusivity on Emory’s campus, SGA will hold office hours on Thursday, March 24 from 10 a.m. to 11 a.m. and CC will hold office hours on Thursday from 3:30 p.m. to 5 p.m.”

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/113316136-story
Good post, Ape.

And Peezus said, "It was all a lie."

Yes, Peezus, your own disingenuous drivel was all a lie. You worthless fraud.

How can people like him live with themselves? After all, he knows even better than we do what a lying piece of shit he really is. He alone knows the full extent of his dishonesty. We have only seen the tip of the iceberg.
PZ is just a feminist/SJW sponge now, see what the shitlords of /pol/ 4chan did with Microsoftbot Kay. PZ is the human equivalent of that surrounded by ideologues. :dance: :lol:

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Sunder wrote:I kinda feel bad for Sastra over at Coyne's because their PZ apologism seems to be based on charity and ignorance, but no one else seems willing to go with their interpretation of Peez as thoughtful or reasonable.
I doubt it's ignorance. Sastra is an old school hordeling - she got her OM in 2007 (https://web.archive.org/web/20080514211 ... /molly.php). Then again she went from being a regular commenter back in the sciblogs days to a very infrequent one at FTB. It could be that she isn't keeping up with the place anymore and isn't fully aware of the way PZ has gone rancid.

I noticed she posted this over at Coyne's place:
PZ doesn’t ban “the mildest criticism.” He even permits comments and arguments from creationists. The commenters, however, will pile on, often with passion. He’s been trying to moderate that a bit more.

I don’t think your analogy with Limbaugh fits.
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... /#comments

And at one point she would have been right about him not banning "the mildest criticism". He used to allow more dissent, and he used to leave dissenting comments up even if he had banned a person. He was fairly transparent about banning. I think the dividing line for this was the grenade post. That's the first I remember him blatantly disappearing comments and banning people without acknowledging that he had done so.

Not that it matters that much anyway. She is clearly wrong, whatever her reasons.

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Sunder wrote:
Badger3k wrote:Nugent has a sense of honor, while Silverman will say whatever he thinks will help his cause at the moment. Nugget is consistent and you know he seems to say what he means. Silverman is a political tool and will flutter any way the wind is blowing. He's untrustworthy and basically a piece of shit.
Fair enough.
Nugent is also a successful playwright.

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I think the bit about PZ trying to moderate his Horde's tendency to pile on is the most laughable. He couldn't even stop them from running off Benson and Clarke.

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Jan Steen wrote:Nugent is also a successful playwright.
But has he been on Full Frontal? Didn't think so.

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comhcinc wrote:I apologize about the chat tonight. I had an issue come up with one of my children which has just now ended. I wasn't able to get a phone or the pc to let people know.


I want to extra apologize to Windy.
Don't worry about it. I also had to step out for a while last night, so I was wondering if I had missed the chat. I hope you solved the issue with your kid and that it wasn't anything serious.

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I'll still recommend I, Keano if it plays anywhere near you:

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If there's one thing that could make me like Tyson it's PZ continuing to get pissy over him.

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Apparently Karen Stollznow is trying to get Mykeru to take down his mirror of her "give a voice to victims of harassment video". He says she now has his undivided attention. I wonder if that means he will go back to making vids again?

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Old_ones wrote:Apparently Karen Stollznow is trying to get Mykeru to take down his mirror of her "give a voice to victims of harassment video". He says she now has his undivided attention. I wonder if that means he will go back to making vids again?

[youtube]Y2HfIfsZH8k[/youtube]
That would be nice.
I've generally enjoyed his vids. He has good comedic timing and generally uses the medium well.
He seems to do vids in bunches with a long break between salvos. That is usually bad for a channel because you lose viewers in the long hiatus waiting for the next one.

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Sunder wrote:If there's one thing that could make me like Tyson it's PZ continuing to get pissy over him.
At this point it seems that Pizzy failing at being a mover and shaker of the A/S community, is determined to wear the robes of the iconoclast. ( at least in his own imagination)

He's just an old crank now.

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A while back I bought and read a copy of Radford's "Mysterious New Mexico" (fun read incidentally) and was entertaining the thought of picking up one of Stollz's just because I don't think personal failings (even very considerable ones) preclude someone from being worth reading, and I'd like to judge for myself.

However, unlike Ben's book, I ain't gonna buy a nice new copy and will opt for used. Because I do think personal failings are worth factoring into whether or not I give someone my money.

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Ben Radford works at Snopes.

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The nice thing about PZs Emory post is that is shows that he is aware on how ridiculous the regressive left has become. He is generally silent on the college flareups until there is one where the reporting is slightly inaccurate.

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The first I remember hearing about the demoralizing and disabling effects of self-depreciation from feeling targeted by popular prejudices and animosities, was when Crayola changed the name of their color "flesh" to "peach."

Why does the color "flesh" not appear in the 1958 limited edition box of 64?

5 Times Crayola Fired Their Crayons

"In 1962, Crayola voluntarily changed Flesh to Peach in an attempt to avoid any legal issues and encourage people to embrace seeing the world in black and peach."

"Introduced in 1949 alongside a cadre of 39 new cohorts, Prussian Blue was unceremoniously stripped of its name in 1958, after teachers continued to voice concerns that the crayon wasn't 'Cold War sensitive.'"

"Introduced in 1958 with 15 additional colors (finally giving children 64 shades to work with!), this color was actually named for a pigment that originated in India. Over the years, teachers began to worry that children would see the crayon as a reference to American Indians' skin color."

I'm not sure when I first heard of bullying. My image of a schoolyard bully goes back as far as I can remember.

I don't remember being aware of bullying among alleged adults until after I started seeing it on the Internet, and even then it took years for me to recognize it as bullying.

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Flesh is a stupid name for a crayon color.
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Shithead.

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Speaking of bullying, I realized a decade or two ago that bullying is not always something one person or a few people do to some other ones. Sometimes it's something a group of people do to some of the group's members. I don't mean simply not intervening. I mean that there's something in the attitudes and behavior of most of the people in the group, that encourages the cruelty of a few, and inhibits even those who disapprove of it from doing anything about it.

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Michael J wrote:The nice thing about PZs Emory post is that is shows that he is aware on how ridiculous the regressive left has become. He is generally silent on the college flareups until there is one where the reporting is slightly inaccurate.
It shows that he understands this sort of behavior is and should be embarrassing to his side, such that he feels the need to pretend it isn't happening.

But by SJW reasoning there's nothing that should be shameful or ridiculous about offering counseling for aggrieved students, so why does shitlord Peezus treat it like something that would be embarrassing if it were true?

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I would bully you shithead but I doubt you are smart enough to pick up on it.

I still want you to explain how you ever convinced a woman to fuck you.

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That wasn't meant to you sunder.

I would bully you but I am not smart enough.

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jimhabegger wrote:Speaking of bullying, I realized a decade or two ago that bullying is not always something one person or a few people do to some other ones. Sometimes it's something a group of people do to some of the group's members. I don't mean simply not intervening. I mean that there's something in the attitudes and behavior of most of the people in the group, that encourages the cruelty of a few, and inhibits even those who disapprove of it from doing anything about it.
Only have to spend a bit of time reading comments at Pharyngula to see that, although it's in rapid decline now.

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comhcinc wrote:I would bully you shithead but I doubt you are smart enough to pick up on it.

I still want you to explain how you ever convinced a woman to fuck you.
Oh, you know how it goes. There are far more 6' 5" tall ex Special Forces veterans with striking jawlines and 10" cocks on the internet than there are in real life. ;)

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I was reading up on chupacabra and I was surprised to find it only dates back about 20 years. I'd assumed it was a myth dating back a few centuries at least.

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Shatterface wrote:I was reading up on chupacabra and I was surprised to find it only dates back about 20 years. I'd assumed it was a myth dating back a few centuries at least.
Yup it's almost as new as the slender man.

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Old_ones wrote:Apparently Karen Stollznow is trying to get Mykeru to take down his mirror of her "give a voice to victims of harassment video". He says she now has his undivided attention. I wonder if that means he will go back to making vids again?

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Is there anything in the wild about this?

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PZ responds to an old enemy's attack on a local diner .... with an attack on a local diner.

His enemies attack is bad cause it's a criticism of a Mexican restaurant and therefore racist.
PZ's is ok cause it's an attack on a white (probably cis) establishment.

Problem is PZ's target is number three in Morris and employs the poor students. True the Mex is number 2 - but with a quarter of the reviews. Bad form Myers.

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I saw the Mykeru video the other day and I didn't bring it up because as butthurt as he is I agree with Stollznow insofar as it's her intellectual property and she gets to choose what happens with it.

Remember it's not an issue of him using clips, he had uploaded her whole video.

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Set against the greater evil, bs. She got 60k off that video, it's part of the historical record.

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Brive1987 wrote:PZ responds to an old enemy's attack on a local diner .... with an attack on a local diner.

His enemies attack is bad cause it's a criticism of a Mexican restaurant and therefore racist.
PZ's is ok cause it's an attack on a white (probably cis) establishment.

Problem is PZ's target is number three in Morris and employs the poor students. True the Mex is number 2 - but with a quarter of the reviews. Bad form Myers.

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Even the staunchest racist doesn't have problems with Mexican restaurants because the taco is the greatest food ever.

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Brive1987 wrote:Set against the greater evil, bs. She got 60k off that video, it's part of the historical record.
Yup and he making videos using clips and such is fine. Everyone having copies on their hard drives is fine, but she still has a right to control how it is distributed.

Being the biggest cunt in the world doesn't mean we get to take away her rights. The cunt.

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Shatterface wrote:I was reading up on chupacabra and I was surprised to find it only dates back about 20 years. I'd assumed it was a myth dating back a few centuries at least.
I remember when I first heard about it, early/ mid nineties I think. Boom! The media just fell in love with it.

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comhcinc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Set against the greater evil, bs. She got 60k off that video, it's part of the historical record.
Yup and he making videos using clips and such is fine. Everyone having copies on their hard drives is fine, but she still has a right to control how it is distributed.

Being the biggest cunt in the world doesn't mean we get to take away her rights. The cunt.
It's not Saving Private Ryan.

How is her monologue different to a written blog comment that it consequently memory holed as an inconvenient fact? A print screen is SOP there.

Would it be significantly different if Mykeru published a complete transcript of the talking head? Or did the audio to a cartoon chipmunck? Or had the original video sync'ed with the text as subtitles?

Confused.

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Brive1987 wrote:
Old_ones wrote:Apparently Karen Stollznow is trying to get Mykeru to take down his mirror of her "give a voice to victims of harassment video". He says she now has his undivided attention. I wonder if that means he will go back to making vids again?

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Is there anything in the wild about this?
Yeah stollz is a cunt always was a cunt and always will be a cunt. You know the one flag Skeptics always went to bat for, was protecting dumbasses from being conned out of their money by bullshit peddlars. It's maybe why that grates so much, that that cunt, a supposed skeptic, used the same script as the psychics that skeptics have been debunking, to fill her pockets.

It's no surprise she wants to memory hole the evidence of her con. She's probably blown the cash by now, and needs to start grifting the skeptic circuit again.

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

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Brive1987 wrote: It's not Saving Private Ryan.
I agree. Saving Private Ryan is a much better fantasy, but the quality of the work is not what determines if it has protection of the law
Brive1987 wrote:How is her monologue different to a written blog comment that it consequently memory holed as an inconvenient fact? A print screen is SOP there.
I'm not sure about blogs and archive sites, but I am clear about videos.
Brive1987 wrote:Would it be significantly different if Mykeru published a complete transcript of the talking head? Or did the audio to a cartoon chipmunck? Or had the original video sync'ed with the text as subtitles?
Legally it might.
Brive1987 wrote:Confused.
The cunt has the right to control her IP. Mykeru published on his channel her video in full without her permission and without commentary, criticism, or parody, thus not falling under fair use protections. Her copyright take down is legitimate. The cunt.

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Brive1987 wrote: It's not Saving Private Ryan.

How is her monologue different to a written blog comment that it consequently memory holed as an inconvenient fact? A print screen is SOP there.

Would it be significantly different if Mykeru published a complete transcript of the talking head? Or did the audio to a cartoon chipmunck? Or had the original video sync'ed with the text as subtitles?

Confused.
Doesn't matter. You can't take someone's copyrighted work and distribute it without permission. You can claim fair use if you follow the specific guidelines for fair use in US copyright law, but mirroring a video does not come close meeting these. If he had made an original video and cut in excerpts from her video with his own commentary, he would be on more solid ground for a fair use claim.

Also, Mykeru will probably lose his copyright claim case with his music as well ("Last Kind Word Blues") since that was recorded in 1930. Only recordings before 1922 are absolutely public domain in the US. After 1922, you takes your chances, but you should assume it's copyrighted (as most recordings are).

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Semi wrote: Also, Mykeru will probably lose his copyright claim case with his music as well ("Last Kind Word Blues") since that was recorded in 1930. Only recordings before 1922 are absolutely public domain in the US. After 1922, you takes your chances, but you should assume it's copyrighted (as most recordings are).
Oh yeah. I think if he had the money he could win that case but while his is tenacious enough it I doubt he has the cash.

He should just look at licensing the song. It should be pretty cheap.

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Brive1987 wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Set against the greater evil, bs. She got 60k off that video, it's part of the historical record.
Yup and he making videos using clips and such is fine. Everyone having copies on their hard drives is fine, but she still has a right to control how it is distributed.

Being the biggest cunt in the world doesn't mean we get to take away her rights. The cunt.
It's not Saving Private Ryan.

How is her monologue different to a written blog comment that it consequently memory holed as an inconvenient fact? A print screen is SOP there.

Would it be significantly different if Mykeru published a complete transcript of the talking head? Or did the audio to a cartoon chipmunck? Or had the original video sync'ed with the text as subtitles?

Confused.
I'm with you on this for a number of reasons.

The video in question is an ad she created for her scam. She encouraged people to spread her solicitation far and wide. Mykeru is complying with her desire. The video, as an ad, is not the same as a pirated copy of Saving Private Ryan. Mykeru is not (to my knowledge) making money off of Stollznow's ad, nor is llehman84, who posted the Willie Horton attack ad for the exact same reasons as Mykeru posted Stollznow's ad.

[youtube]Io9KMSSEZ0Y[/youtube]

Stollznow's video is a historical representation of facts that were part of a court case that went on for quite some time and very much in public. (In our circles, anyway.) This is Stollznow's testimony. Has she DMCAed those who have quoted her SciAm blog post? She and Radford explicitly asked PZ and the other morons to take down their articles...they have not done so and I see no evidence that she has urged them to comply with her wishes, even at this late date.

Unlike the Hulk sex tape Gawker posted, this one is newsworthy. Stollznow made a public claim. This video is a reinforcement of that public claim. She retracted that public claim. This tape is therefore a part of Stollznow's campaign. It's bullshit for her to expect to have the right to accuse the shit out of people in public, into an arena of morons she can't control, and then expect to control the information she distributed.

Remember that young woman who made a terrible mistake and Periscoped her drunk driving?

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I bet she would really like to have all copies of that video destroyed. It makes her look terrible. Unlike Stollznow, she didn't hurt anyone and she has the excuse of youth. And she didn't lie. But that video is not going anywhere and neither should Stollznow's. May it be mirrored elsewhere and forever.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Easy J wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:I like knives...
I have a couple of folders lying around. The rest are back home. It's a hobby that haskept me broke way too often.
bladeforums.com Try Whine and Cheese, like the ' pit but a few more rules and a lot of psychopaths.
I may be one of those. I'm Flatface77 over there. I use my real name on Jerzeedevil. It's a small, weird world over there.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:If I had a dating profile, knives would be the least of my worries. I am happily married, and have convinced my wife of the old Norse sayin "A knifeless man is a lifeless man." I would hate to see the knives I've so carefully sharpened applied to my groinal region.

I used to make knives as a hobby, currently hoping to fire up the old forge soon.
If you do, consider posting pics. I might pick one up.

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Really? wrote: Mykeru is not (to my knowledge) making money off of Stollznow's ad,
It always annoys me when people bring up profit. That doesn't matter. At all. Profit has zero to do with copyright claims. Whether something is being used for profit is not part of fair use.


As to the idea that this is historical and needs to be out there so it's okay sorry but I just disagree. Whether something is important historically is also not a matter for copyright. In fact that very idea has come up a couple of times.

Now here is where I try to play nice. I think copyright is broke. I think it needs to be fix. I do think that historical importance should play a role in allowing the presentation of certain media.

As it is now the law is very clear about this and the cunt is in the right.

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comhcinc wrote:
Really? wrote: Mykeru is not (to my knowledge) making money off of Stollznow's ad,
It always annoys me when people bring up profit. That doesn't matter. At all. Profit has zero to do with copyright claims. Whether something is being used for profit is not part of fair use.


As to the idea that this is historical and needs to be out there so it's okay sorry but I just disagree. Whether something is important historically is also not a matter for copyright. In fact that very idea has come up a couple of times.

Now here is where I try to play nice. I think copyright is broke. I think it needs to be fix. I do think that historical importance should play a role in allowing the presentation of certain media.

As it is now the law is very clear about this and the cunt is in the right.
I see. I quite like your avatar picture. What lens did you use to take it?

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Easy J wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:If I had a dating profile, knives would be the least of my worries. I am happily married, and have convinced my wife of the old Norse sayin "A knifeless man is a lifeless man." I would hate to see the knives I've so carefully sharpened applied to my groinal region.

I used to make knives as a hobby, currently hoping to fire up the old forge soon.
If you do, consider posting pics. I might pick one up.
I also would be interested in seeing pictures.

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Shatterface wrote:I was reading up on chupacabra and I was surprised to find it only dates back about 20 years. I'd assumed it was a myth dating back a few centuries at least.
I remember a Chupacabra episode of Scooby Doo from when I was a child. I'm old. Ergo, it's older than 20 years.

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
Shatterface wrote:I was reading up on chupacabra and I was surprised to find it only dates back about 20 years. I'd assumed it was a myth dating back a few centuries at least.
I remember a Chupacabra episode of Scooby Doo from when I was a child. I'm old. Ergo, it's older than 20 years.
Well...
Scooby-Doo! and the Monster of Mexico is the sixth of a series of direct-to-video animated films based upon the Scooby-Doo Saturday morning cartoons. It was released on September 30, 2003, and it was produced by Warner Bros. Animation (though done in a retro format resembling the classic 1970s Hanna-Barbera cartoons)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby-Do ... _of_Mexico

So we have some options here.

1. You are misremembering.
2. You are lying.
3. You are telling the truth and no one else remembers but you.
4. You are telling the truth and this has something to do with time travel.


I hoping for four!

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Really? wrote:
I see. I quite like your avatar picture. What lens did you use to take it?
I believe it's a screenshot. I could maybe argue that I am doing a parody of the Rowdy One from his short run in TNA. But really I am not. (I like how Really works both ways there :) )

If a copyright claim was made I wouldn't be upset about it.

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I always figured 'chupacabra' was that one Cosby Kid saying 'Chewbacca'

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Easy J wrote:
I may be one of those. I'm Flatface77 over there. I use my real name on Jerzeedevil. It's a small, weird world over there.

One of the guys I work with posts over there.

I got to go to a few of their monthly drink me ups as well.

Fun group of folks.

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Easy J wrote:
I may be one of those. I'm Flatface77 over there. I use my real name on Jerzeedevil. It's a small, weird world over there.

One of the guys I work with posts over there.

I got to go to a few of their monthly drink me ups as well.

Fun group of folks.

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Steersman wrote:
Willyum wrote:Good article about a journalist who went undercover as a student in the Brussels neighborhood Molenbeek 11 years ago to investigate the jihadist culture there. According to the article she wrote a book about the experience not too long after.
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Here is a link to the story. The longer original french version can be accessed there.

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womeninthewo ... molenbeek/

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womeninthewo ... molenbeek/
Looks interesting. You might also be interested in this recent article in Breitbart:
Dutch Party For Freedom (PVV) leader and prominent counter-Islamist campaigner Geert Wilders has spoken exclusively to Breitbart London in the aftermath of this morning’s major terror attack and has lamented it is just the beginning of growing Islamist violence.

Mr. Wilders said: “I fear that we ain’t seen nothing yet. According to Europol 3,000 to 5,000 European jihadists, who went to Syria to fight in the ranks of IS and similar terrorist groups, have meanwhile returned to Western Europe. Some of them hid among the hundreds of thousands of Islamic asylum seekers that entered Europe from Asia and Africa.
Deport the fuckers - every last one of them; at least all who won't piss on the Quran, and the Prophet to boot.
That really is fucked up. I know they've been pretty gutless in the face of Islam's cultural jihad, but I never thought I'd see the Dutch sink to using the word "ain't". Part of me wants to protest the cultural appropriation, but fuck, I feel so bad for them that I'll just let them keep it for a while.

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Spike13 wrote:
Easy J wrote:
I may be one of those. I'm Flatface77 over there. I use my real name on Jerzeedevil. It's a small, weird world over there.

One of the guys I work with posts over there.

I got to go to a few of their monthly drink me ups as well.

Fun group of folks.
Drink em' ups... Goddamnit... Stupid phone

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