Steerzing in a New Direction...

[Matt Cavanaugh]

The jab is not technically an inoculation, either.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

It fucking hijacks your cells' RNA and reprograms them to produce spike proteins, which others of your cells then create antibodies to combat. And these manufactured spike proteins are getting everywhere and fucking things up. And they swore it was not messing with your DNA, but now they've found it does.

[Service Dog]

Another reason it's not a vaccine... is It Doesn't Fucking Work.

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Can't call it a 'shot', because it takes 3 or 4 shots to not-work.

[Service Dog]

if you'd actually try getting your thumbs off the scales and your head out of your arse and actually look at the data, read the fucking manual, then you'd see that many of the supposed "adverse effects" are pretty minor indeed - no different from many if not most vaccines. For instance, Table 2 pages 8 and 9, include "nausea", "fever", "chills", "headache", "cough" and the like. Big fucking deal.

If you had a shred of integrity... you'd measure the symptoms of Covid the EXACT SAME WAY and discard mere "nausea", "fever", "chills", "headache", "cough" "and the like" as "Big fucking deal"....

...unworthy of sowing worldwide panic, censoring the public discourse, "centering" covid as the topic of discussion-- at the expense of other news & concerns, halting international trade & travel, crushing billions of peoples incomes, inflating economies with Trillion$ in money-printing, implementing an Apartheid system in public venues, destroying children's education, masking kids like tortured lab animals... etc. etc. etc.

That last Wikipedia article on the Pfizer vaccine says that relatively minor effects - "pain and swelling at the injection site, tiredness, headache, muscle aches, chills, joint pain, and fever" - occur in 1 case out of 10, while more serious adverse effects - "temporary one sided facial drooping and allergic reactions such as hives or swelling of the face" - may occur in 1 case out of 1000.

I'm glad you admit that! When I see those words-- I think "Bell's Palsy". And, indeed, the court-released Pfizer document says that Bell's Palsy is of such-specific concern-- that further studies have been ordered to assess the frequency:

Pfizer wrote: "Additionally, noninterventional post-authorisation safety studies, C4591011 and C4591012 are expected to capture data on a sufficiently large vaccinated population to detect an increased risk of Bell’s palsy in vaccinated individuals."

C4591011 is a "pharmacovigilance" code for a documented harmful drug interaction. In this case: Pfizer jab & Bell's Palsy.

Searching for the term C4591011 yields' the New Zealand medsafe document titled:

"Updated summary of risk management plan for Comiraty (COVID-19 mRNA vaccine)",

which contains the following tables:

I had been searching with Google for those numbers though couldn't find much more than what I'd posted above.

None so blind as those who will not see.

I used duckduckgo and found the numbers with ease.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Humanist blogger and all-around jackass, Jonny Scaramanga, is now Jenna Scaramanga:

https://onlysky.media/jscaramanga/trans ... -i-was-12/

If xe'd timed the transition right, Jen/Jeffey McRight's quaky boobs would've been available.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Democrats: ‘I support those brave Ukrainians staying and fighting for their country!’
Also Democrats: ‘That happens here, I’m fleeing!’

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3838

[fuzzy]

So yes here I am a few days later with a path of metal stitches in my arm, I'm told that I was fortunate to have missed the most major artery, and nerve pathways. It was kind of alarming to hear I'm talking about potential helicopter flight to a facility more capable of that kind of repair had it become necessary. The sheriff wasn't dressed as a sheriff, by the way, as I reread what I wrote here in the pit I wanted to clarify that when I asked him if he was my county sheriff .. I wasn't me deliriously asking that to a guy all dressed up as a sheriff; he was just one among several that had arrived, and was half-remembering some news on paper article in the past where the factory that are new sheriff was an EMT dawned on me. The Buffalo national river runs through the county so think this gang gets tobdo some more adventurous stuff once in awhile.

[Service Dog]

My points #22 thru #26 age VERY WELL, in light of today's discussion:

22.) In the real-world roll-out of the Vax… Adverse Events are not being tracked in an active, accurate way. Canada lets bureaucrats overrule patients who report negative side-effects of the drug. How many complaints are overlooked or deleted? Here’s a clue: 78% (OVER 3/4!) of trial participants reported adverse side-effects. In the real-world, nearly Zero Percent report adverse side-effects. During the trials, researchers were required to actively track effects. Now, nobody’s actively collecting that data.

23.) Ontario Public Health says 1 in 5,000 young men (age 18-24) have developed Myocarditis after Moderna. 1 in 28,000 after Pfizer. BUT Astra-Zeneca was HALTED due-to a 1-in-60,000 risk of blood clotting. SO, by that standard, both Moderna & Pfizer should definitely be halted. The regulators aren’t being consistent.

24.) Pfizer did collect adverse-effects data for 2.5 months after the real world roll-out. Pfizer is seeking to Seal that detailed data/ away from Public Release… for FIFTY YEARS. Until 2076! All we know is: Pfizer’s data includes: 1,200 deaths, 25,000 nervous system events, cases of Anaphylaxis, and Vaccine Associate Enhanced Disease. Politicians & medical bureaucrats who flatly declare the product “safe” — are not saying the truth.

25.) Pfizer is a many-times repeat offender against public health & safety, including: Lying to win federal approval of a heart valve- which fractured, killing hundreds. Clinical trials on children without their parents’ consent (some of those children died). Bribing doctors. Suppressing research. Manipulating data. Withholding information that their products caused cancer. And: fraudulent marketing. They have been ordered to pay Billion$ in fines & settlements.

26.) 84% of the researchers behind the Covid study have conflicts of interest, including the lead researchers. Just 2 authors of the report, for example, (a husband & wife team) profited $9 BILLION from the release... of the same drug they were assigned to test.

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In contrast, this was Steersman's reply:

Wordy bugger, aren't you?

Pfizer may well have at least cut a few corners, though Canadian Covid Alliance might be making more out of the evidence than is justified. I sure can't say one way or the other...

...and then Steersman's brain made a hard-left-turn into complete non-sequitur.
He started talking about Ivermectin. :think: :doh: :hand:
Although NOTHING in my post or the Canadian doctor's "video was about Ivermectin, AT ALL.

What a fucking weirdo. https://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 63#p507364

You have anything from Pfizer, the CDC, or the good Dr. Campbell that contradicts that "favourable benefit:risk balance"?

Where's the evidence that Pfizer's vaccine does not have, as they put it, "a favourable benefit:risk balance"?

The fucking title of the Canadian doctors' video is:

"The Pfizer Inoculations For COVID-19 – More Harm Than Good"

None so blind as those who will not see.

[fuzzy]

Pit archivalists may have noticed that I live a stone's throw from a broken down amusement park. Looks like we rolled a seven and a serious developer is going to make a seriously nice place out of it. I've been watching a whole bunch of dilapidated things get slowly piled up and burned and replaced with ... Restored pretty things, this guy likes to clean up the rocks and the stuff it's been fun watching from the highway over time.
https://www.ky3.com/2021/10/27/johnny-m ... heme-park/

[Service Dog]

(I buried the lede in that last post. Rather than "Point #22", I shoulda started with Point #1...)

I'm beginning to think that very few people understand relative vs absolute risk.

I pretty much switch off when I hear "xxxx has a yy% increase of risk over zzzz"

Dr. Malone tried to spread-the-word about this distinction. He tweeted a link to the alliance of Canadian doctors' who published a pd report & video.

Which was Dr. Malone's last-ever tweet. In response, Twitter banned him for life.

On Jan 2, 2022 I posted my notes on the Canadian video report.

And my #1 point was:

1.) Pfizer advertised the jab as “95%” effective. Which sounds as-if the drug saves 95 people/ and only 5 get sick. In REALITY 99 people already don’t-get-sick, with-OR-WITHOUT the drug. The only way to detect the drug doing anything-at-all… is to start with 100,000 people. 99,912 won’t get sick… even-if the drug doesn’t exist. Of the remaining 88 people… the drug helps all-but-4. BUT: 84 out of 100,000 is NOT 95%. It’s 00000.84% Pfizer’s ‘relative’ method of counting (95%) is well-known to be misleading, and the FDA recommends using the ‘absolute’ percentage: (0.84%). Pfizer disregarded the FDA.

My #3 point is also relevant today, because it shows a pattern of Pfizer obscuring Adverse Effects data... by hiding necessary numbers in appendices:

3.) Pfizer's own study showed that their drug caused illness & death. Pfizer buried those results in a ‘supplementary appendix’, hidden-away from the main numbers...

And, importantly, Pfizer's dubious methodology in their vax trials-- casts grave doubt on whether their product EVER actually met the threshold for Emergency Use Authorization:

12.) The researchers Did Not Test each trial participant for Covid-19 !!! They ONLY tested those who displayed ‘symptoms’ of Covid. But Pfizer didn’t establish what that list of ’symptoms’ was. So there was a wild variance in what each doctor believed to-be a ‘symptom’ of Covid. Which introduced random Subjectivity, not scientific Objectivity.

13.) Basing their study on ‘symptoms’ fails-to-see Asymptomatic Spread. That brainfart left us without-data to fight Variants. There is nothing in these trials— showing the jab fights asymptomatic spread.

14.) Due to the Subjective Guesswork about which-participants actually had covid (they shoulda tested Everybody!)… only 8 inoculated participants, and 162 control participants were deemed to be Positive with Covid. BUT the researchers LOST TOUCH with 80 inoculated and 86 control people— before the study ended. That’s 10x the number who Tested Positive! How Many of those 80 inoculated people Never Reported Back to the researchers Because They Died Of The Injections?!, How many were on Ventilators? Those unknown numbers could change the picture drastically.

15.) Even Worse, there was a “Suspected But Unconfirmed” category. People Suspected of Having Covid-19 due to exhibiting Symptoms Of Covid-19… who were Never Tested for Covid-19. Pfizer counted ALL of those SICK PEOPLE as Negative for Covid-19. How many? Answer: 1,594 vax’d subjects & 1,816 control subjects. 3,410 sick people, counted as Not Sick. That total DWARFS the 8 vax’d and 162 unvax’d subjects… counted-by-Pfizer as Covid-19 positive.

16.) IF we (reasonably) assume that all-the-people who displayed Covid-19 symptoms… indeed had Covid… then the “Relative Risk Reduction” provided by the vax is only 19% improvement over the control group. 19% is better than 0% right? BUT… 19% is below the threshold required for an Emergency Use Authorization. An EUA requires a 50% or greater improvement! 19% isn’t-even close! Either this vax was mistakenly granted an EUA which it didn’t earn/ or it was INTENTIONALLY given a bogus EUA.

[Service Dog]

a broken down amusement park.

Dogpatch from Li'l Abner! Hoss Cartwright! The Dillards! ...fuck yeah!

[Matt Cavanaugh]

The sheriff wasn't dressed as a sheriff, by the way, as I reread what I wrote here in the pit I wanted to clarify that when I asked him if he was my county sheriff .. I wasn't me deliriously asking that to a guy all dressed up as a sheriff

Yeah, but it plays better if he's in uniform. As they say in Hollywood, never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

[fuzzy]

My other encounter with Mike blocker was 8 years ago when he was a rookie or similar on another local force, and the group of four of them were overly aggressive with the cuffs to the point where I was actually losing feelings and continue to have symptoms of that slightly they may be now, and as this was happening I noticed his name tag, confirmed his heritage, said hey come on you know this isn't right, and I could see in his eyes that he knew I was right and I just decided not to play the Hoss card on him, so I stopped there. If it were up to him he would have helped me out, but it wasn't. I was happy years later to learn that he has gotten himself out of that situation and landed somewhere else.

When things started changing 4 years ago, I obsessively read all the affidavits on the publicly available Court sites, and Blocker is one of the few that can acruallywrite well. I'll bet that sheriff wheeler doesn't hear that about his deputies very often. Ha ha
https://hometowndailynewsarchives.com/2 ... on-county/

[Service Dog]

Imagine hearing this... as a refugee...


Imagine Zelensky... getting this International Women's Day message...


More inappropriate laughter...

[free thoughtpolice]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN2AA2CB

[Steersman]

Some 42,000 cases, about only a third of which (13,000) came from the US. So maybe some 120 million people in the reporting group.

120 Million? You're just MAKING UP NUMBERS BASED ON NOTHING. This is no different that when you said "a billion".

:roll: I was trying to ballpark a number for the denominator for all of those "adverse events". But hardly "nothing" as you yourself had said:

<snip>

FROM DEC 1 2020 TO FEB 28 2021-- THE CDC reported a total of 87,512,943 MODERNA and PFizer doses had been injected in the US.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... ion-trends

DIVIDE THAT between Pfizer & Moderna. (At that time, APPROX. 53% of the jabs-given were Pfizer)
(J&J did not launch until March 5.)

so... about 46.4 Million Pfizer Jabs were given.

BUT

a WHOPPING 39.25 Million of those were FIRST DOSES ONLY, injected into people who had-not-yet (or would-not-ever) get their 2nd shot.

Which means, a remaining: 7,741,958 shots were served as 1st-plus-2nd-doses....

so only 3,870,979 Americans were double-shot fully-vaxed with Pfizer... before 2/28/2021.


So we're lookin' at about 43.1 Millio Americans ...

So if some 13,000 of those 42,000 cases that Pfizer describes were produced in "jabbing" 43.1 million Americans then 42,000 would mean - assuming that the rest of the world isn't terribly different from most Americans - something like 42*43/13 = about 140 million for that denominator.

Calling you "logic challenged" would be charitable to a fault.

Shove this up your ass, loser:

What seems to have been "lost" - if it was ever present to begin with - is a general ability to read and comprehend the facts, to not react with bogus rumours, conspiracy "theories", and misinformation campaigns.

LoL. After you Alphonse. "bogus rumours, conspiracy theories, and misinformation campaigns" fits you to T. Any plans afoot to admit that you were blowing smoke out of your arse about AP? :roll: "intellectually dishonest" is likewise being charitable.

[Steersman]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN2AA2CB

Indeed.

A Google of the definition for "vaccine" gives this from OED:

vac·cine
/vakˈsēn/
noun
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
"every year the flu vaccine is modified to deal with new strains of the virus"

And Wikipedia - The People's Encyclopedia (tm) - asserts:

A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine

Kinda think that Pfizer's and Moderna's offerings clearly qualify. But rather amused by the desperation of the anti-vaxxers and their useful/less idiots.

[Service Dog]

So if some 13,000 of those 42,000 cases that Pfizer describes were produced in "jabbing" 43.1 million Americans then 42,000 would mean - assuming that the rest of the world isn't terribly different from most Americans - something like 42*43/13 = about 140 million for that denominator.

That's a very strange thing for YOU to assume. You are the one who repeatedly asserts that Ivermectin works in other countries... PRECISELY BECAUSE those countries are worm-infested shitholes, crucially different from the US, and the same success would not occur here.

There's no rigor to your posts. No consistent methodology. You just make-up whatever fanciful shit suits the outcome you desire.


One reason the US is different than other countries... is that ONLY TRUMP treated the race for a vaccine... like a CASINO:

NYPost: April 12, 2020: "Trump had the foresight to contract with not one or two, but six different vaccine companies for a total of 800 million doses. Not all six companies’ vaccines would actually be approved and put into use, but he went for all six, because failure was not an option.

Operation Warp Speed paid firms to manufacture the vaccines before clinical trials proved they were safe and worked. Companies couldn’t take that risk on their own. It was a bold strategy, and it worked.

Trump insisted he would have vaccines ready by the end of 2020, a goal naysayers like government virus guru Anthony Fauci said was impossible. Thousands of column inches and many more tweets mocked Trump’s optimism."

Same source: "Meanwhile, the European Union dithered over what to buy and at what price. By the time the Brussels bureaucrats contracted with vaccine developers, 105 days after Johnson signed his deals, it was slim pickings. That’s largely why the European nations lack supply now.

Looking back, French President Emannuel Macron admits, “We didn’t shoot for the stars. That should be a lesson. We were wrong to lack ambition, to lack the madness . . . to say: ‘It’s possible, let’s do it.’ ”

Now EU countries are so desperate for supply that Hungary has bought 5 million doses from the Chinese state-owned company Sinopharm for a whopping $36 a dose, probably the highest price in the world. Amazing, since China refused to publish clinical data proving the vaccine works. Now there are signs it’s far less effective than the Chinese implied"

Same source (April 21, 2021): "36 percent of US residents have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. Compare that with the European Union, where only 15 percent of the population has gotten at least one jab."

Oh... What's that? The Chinese Sinovax? The Russian Sputnik V vax? And the Oxford/AstraZeneca vax in the UK? Crap. It sounds-like the mix-of vaccines implemented in Other Countries DIFFERS FROM the US.

But whut-about the HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS of The U.S. vs. Italy, Spain, Germany, Denmark, France, Finland, and the UK's NHS...

...surely THOSE are All The Same as the US. Their reporting-systems for adverse events... and their financial incentives... and their local political prejudices For and Against the 'Trump Vaccine' are ALL pretty-much-identical to the USofA, right? right?

Why even do the study? We can just start-with the Most Expedient Answer we WISH WERE TRUE.. and work-backward from there.

[free thoughtpolice]

rate of covid vaccination in the EU= 72.64%
https://covidvax.live/location/eu

[Service Dog]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN2AA2CB

Your 'fact check' only refutes a claim which NO ONE HERE MADE. It's a non-sequitur. Is that an error, or by-design?

After, all... your source is REUTERS... business-partners with Blackrock... the owners of Pfizer.

your fact-check DOES NOT DISCLOSE THAT FINANCIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. We should not trust their motives or verdict.

https://fintel.io/so/us/pfe/blackrock
https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en/press ... -fund.html

[free thoughtpolice]

Many people are saying (not me, but many people) that Trump and his master Putin laced the world's Ivermectin with computer chips that implant covid disinformation in its victims, then claimed it cured/prevented covid knowing the government and Fauci would tell people not to take it. The cunning bastards knew that MAGAts would take it just because the government told them not to.
It's not exactly clear how much more vulnerable it has made them to disinformation as they were pretty far gone before.

[Steersman]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN2AA2CB

Your 'fact check' only refutes a claim which NO ONE HERE MADE. It's a non-sequitur. Is that an error, or by-design?

:roll: What an absolute idiot and fraud you are. You SAID:

Another reason it's not a vaccine... is It Doesn't Fucking Work.

<snip>

After, all... your source is REUTERS... business-partners with Blackrock... the owners of Pfizer.

your fact-check DOES NOT DISCLOSE THAT FINANCIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. We should not trust their motives or verdict.

https://fintel.io/so/us/pfe/blackrock
https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en/press ... -fund.html

Innuendo. Where's your evidence - apart from what you pull out of your arse - that that "business partners" means that their refutation is null and void?

Did you bother to read what they said? Capable of it?

Reuters was referring to people claiming that Pfizer's and Moderna's drugs weren't vaccines. Which is exactly what you've said.

[free thoughtpolice]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN2AA2CB

Your 'fact check' only refutes a claim which NO ONE HERE MADE. It's a non-sequitur. Is that an error, or by-design?

After, all... your source is REUTERS... business-partners with Blackrock... the owners of Pfizer.

your fact-check DOES NOT DISCLOSE THAT FINANCIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. We should not trust their motives or verdict.

https://fintel.io/so/us/pfe/blackrock
https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en/press ... -fund.html

I didn't say anyone made that exact claim here, nor am I aware of any rule that demands my posts need to be an answer to something that was written here before. I was just pointing out a piece of disinformation.
As to whether the source is reliable, unless you are saying that Pfizer and Moderna didn't say what they are quoted saying.
Their financial ties don't matter because they are only quoting provable facts, as in that Pfizer and Moderna do call their vaccines vaccines.

[Steersman]

So if some 13,000 of those 42,000 cases that Pfizer describes were produced in "jabbing" 43.1 million Americans then 42,000 would mean - assuming that the rest of the world isn't terribly different from most Americans - something like 42*43/13 = about 140 million for that denominator.

That's a very strange thing for YOU to assume. You are the one who repeatedly asserts that Ivermectin works in other countries... PRECISELY BECAUSE those countries are worm-infested shitholes, crucially different from the US, and the same success would not occur here.

There's no rigor to your posts. No consistent methodology. You just make-up whatever fanciful shit suits the outcome you desire.

<bullshit obfuscation snipped>

:roll:
Calling you a motivated idiot is being unfair to idiots.

We're not talking about ivermectin; we're talking about the effects of Pfizer VACCINES on people all over the world.

Maybe Americans are somewhat different from the rest of the world - apparently, some evidence that there's a higher incidence of morbid obesity which may well constitute some sort of comorbidity that adds to the number of those "adverse events".

But - to a first approximation, absent any evidence to the contrary, and based on your OWN estimates - it is reasonable to infer something in the ballpark of 120 to 140 million for the denominator to be used in the calculations of absolute risk due to Pfizer VACCINATIONS.

[Service Dog]

rate of covid vaccination in the EU= 72.64%
https://covidvax.live/location/eu

YOU ARE CITING AN IRRELEVANT STATISTIC FROM 2022. THE TIME PERIOD IN-QUESTION IS DEC 1, 2020 thru FEB 28, 2021.

The numbers at your link are Somewhat Useless... because these are numbers for ALL TYPES of Covid Vax... and we're discussing
adverse reactions to PFIZER only.

. . . . .

Nonetheless,

these are the EU numbers as-of February 28, 2021, according to the link:

Total Doses Administered/ ALL VAX types: 34,733,441
Percentage of the population receiving at-least ONE dose: 7.77%
Approx 16.7 Million of those doses were administered within 21 days of Feb 28... and so they COULD NOT BE 2nd doses of the Pfizer Jab.

-------

Therefore... the DENOMINATOR of Adverse-Events per JAB is some-fraction of 34.7 Million jabs.

Same denominator-- for the number of DEATHS per jab.


Steersman's most-conservative "assume" was an order of magnitude too high.

[Service Dog]

Where's your evidence - apart from what you pull out of your arse - that that "business partners" means that their refutation is null and void?

The fact-checkers' failure to disclose their financial conflict of interest violates Their Own standards... which they apply to others.

Reuters was referring to people claiming that Pfizer's and Moderna's drugs weren't vaccines. Which is exactly what you've said.

FALSE. Reuters fact-checkers INSISTED on refuting ONLY a specific, narrow claim... that the pharma companies Do Not Use the term vaccine. AS IF refuting that STRAWMAN... is a sufficient substitute for the actual claims MADE HERE AT THE 'PYT... that the mRNA vaccines Do Not Meet the LONGSTANDING definition of a vaccine, before the Covid Era of Orwellian Revisionism.

I've already been thru this EXACT dispute with Robokitty. You stooges for The Regime are just talking in circles.

And I've been thru a substantially-similar dispute with Steersman... in-which Steersman abjectly refused to Detect the Logical Fallacy perpetrated against his mind-- by the AP's fact-checkers.

[Service Dog]

Trump and his master Putin laced the world's Ivermectin with computer chips that implant covid disinformation in its victims, then claimed it cured/prevented covid knowing the government and Fauci would tell people not to take it. The cunning bastards knew that MAGAts would take it just because the government told them not to. I can only imagine if Abbie tried to post again at the site she actually started. If she made an unpopular remarks about vaccines, facemasks, or the origins of the coronavirus pandemic the dog and pony show would probably tell her that as a virus researcher she isn't qualified because she is funded by the CDC, or is probably a criminal that engages in dangerous gain of function research on possible bioweapons, Dickless would accuse her of working for the Communist Chinese, tell her to suck his asshole and then run away crying like a little girl (listening at the door of your children's sleeping room) need to telling kids that wanking and (onanist) spilling your seed on the ground (evil gardening likely styxes gardening for the devil series) is bad and they will go to hell for masturbating.If you are allowed to tell children that sexuality is natural and give them the facts, not this SJW transkids thing, but a sensible education.The moral context is or should be taught, absolutely. Like don't make babies and neglect, mistreat , or abandon them if you are going to have sex.Don't engage in sexual behavior on vulnerable or a non consensual subjects. It doesn't seem that difficult.

[free thoughtpolice]

Trump and his master Putin laced the world's Ivermectin with computer chips that implant covid disinformation in its victims, then claimed it cured/prevented covid knowing the government and Fauci would tell people not to take it. The cunning bastards knew that MAGAts would take it just because the government told them not to. I can only imagine if Abbie tried to post again at the site she actually started. If she made an unpopular remarks about vaccines, facemasks, or the origins of the coronavirus pandemic the dog and pony show would probably tell her that as a virus researcher she isn't qualified because she is funded by the CDC, or is probably a criminal that engages in dangerous gain of function research on possible bioweapons, Dickless would accuse her of working for the Communist Chinese, tell her to suck his asshole and then run away crying like a little girl (listening at the door of your children's sleeping room) need to telling kids that wanking and (onanist) spilling your seed on the ground (evil gardening likely styxes gardening for the devil series) is bad and they will go to hell for masturbating.If you are allowed to tell children that sexuality is natural and give them the facts, not this SJW transkids thing, but a sensible education.The moral context is or should be taught, absolutely. Like don't make babies and neglect, mistreat , or abandon them if you are going to have sex.Don't engage in sexual behavior on vulnerable or a non consensual subjects. It doesn't seem that difficult.

You are quoting what I've said, in a sort of typical scatterbrain SD habit, and at the end show a gif of yourself laughing about just owning another lib.
Very profound.

[free thoughtpolice]

By the way SD you might want to get yourself checked out for Grave's Disease.

[fuzzy]

Our community took an early hit in the covid as the 2030 first wave took 84-year-old Roy "Doc Lee" popular local fiddler and still-active physician who had pioneered a couple of quick- medical facilities in past decades for northern Arkansas and Branson areas, probably picked it up from the rest home in Jasper just south of me where he was visiting his mother as the firstest outbreaks hit. I guess he got sent to Fayetteville and put on one of them respirators and didn't make it through. I did have one opportunity several years ago to sit in the same song circle as him one night, but he wouldn't have known me by name, maybe big guy with the horn and sloppy guitar player...

[fuzzy]

Oh that post about Doc Lee reminded me of my other friend, I shouldn't use his real name but he was being a real respectful helpful assistant to doc lee that night. He's like 20 or 30 years younger than me but I got to hang around with him a lot in local musical scenes, which is particularly Rich around here because there's a lot of bored Branson musicians that are looking for more interesting musical things to do after maybe the same old show the 28th time, so I was hanging around with this extremely charming great guitar player who can make every woman in the bar wiggle in her chair, and actually in real life played wingman duties as he had charmed the prettiest girl in the bar and it was my night to be sober. There was one night when a cougar was about to get lucky but she was too insistent on dumping me first and lost the deal.

[Pseudomonas]

When did we start using the word "jab" to refer to a vaccination? I fucking hate this word. It's gone completely global too.

When I lived in Bhurzum-land, the term used by the natives was "Jag", which I hate even more than "Jab".

Pseudomonas

[Bhurzum]

When did we start using the word "jab" to refer to a vaccination? I fucking hate this word. It's gone completely global too.

When I lived in Bhurzum-land, the term used by the natives was "Jag", which I hate even more than "Jab".

Pseudomonas

Can confirm.

Also, "jagging" is slang for the act of injecting junk.

[Service Dog]

A little jewish girl named Anne Frank kept a diary, about sleeping in an attic.

free thoughtpolice glued all the pages together.

Despite Anne's one-hit-wonder success, and failure to follow-up with a sequel--

her boy-troubles, or her acne, or her period, or math homework... or whatever-else it was she was always mooning-on about...

still rings true today:

"In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart. I simply can’t build up my hopes on a foundation consisting of confusion, misery, and death. I see the world gradually being turned into a wilderness, I hear the ever approaching thunder, which will destroy us too, I can feel the sufferings of millions and yet, if I look up into the heavens, I think that it will all come right, that this cruelty too will end, and that peace and tranquility will return again."

in that spirit,

I'll note that today's most comforting development... (even-better than Jussie Smollett's courtroom antics, which made everyone who wrote letters-of-support/ pleading to the court for leniency... look like compete suckers)...

The most comforting development was seeing that Steersman is 100% okay with Whatever New Definition the Oxford English Dictionary or GOOGLE or Wikipedia... slaps on a word. If the definition of "vaccine" says "2+2=5", then By Golly... steersman is perfectly-content to nod-along.

And so I can't wait until they just hurry-up & revise the definition of "woman", already. So Steersman will finally find peace and Shut The Fuck Up about it.

A Google of the definition for "vaccine" gives this from OED:

And Wikipedia - The People's Encyclopedia (tm) - asserts:

[Service Dog]

Green dotted line shows is the End Of February 2021. Showing that- almost no one in the UK had 2 vax doses. (A strategy of put-one-dose-in-everyone-first was being-pursued at-the-time.)

So if we can figure-out what-portion of the 20 Million people who were vaxed in the UK at-that-time... got the Pfizer jab...

then we'll have a Denominator for the UK's Adverse Events and Deaths numbers... in the Pfizer dataset.

I've been looking at old news articles (a shocking number of those links are now dead, courtesy of the Ministry of Truth)...

From what I've seen-- Pfizer accounted for less-than-half of the shots delivered... for the 1st portion of the period-in-question...
and more-than-half at the end. But I'm not satisfied the with the quality of that reporting (it's breezy, without citations).

Yet-- it's the best I've got right-now. So I'm willing to tenatively 'ballpark' the Denominator at 10 Million jabbed UK people.

And the UK Numerator is 13,404 people reporting Adverse Events.

ONE IN EVERY 746 UK PEOPLE WHO GOT THE PFIZER JAB were documented by Pfizer as "cases" with Adverse Events... after Just One Dose.

1 in every 38,314 suffered Anaphalaxis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphylaxis

The rate of VAED/VAERD (just don't call it VAIDS!) is an interesting number:
71 cases per 10 Million UK people... doesn't sound like a lot. But it's 71 MORE CASES which Pfizer knew-about... than New Zealand's official assessment of "we think VAED/VAERD/VAIDS is a possibility but we haven't confirmed that (because Pfizer hid the data from us)". And it's way-higher than the Associated Press Fact-Checkers' insistence that VAIDS only exists among Reddit Nutcases With No Medical Qualifications (because Pfizer hid the evidence & AP willfully-ignored other reports from doctors.)

64 spontaneous abortions, premature births with neonatal deaths, spontaneous abortions with intrauterine deaths, etc....
(I guess the Denominator for that-one wouldn't-be 10 Million, but-rather whatever-portion of the 10 Million were PREGNANT.)
(Pregnancy complications where the baby didn't die-- is a different category.)

1 in every 24,500 cases... where the Vax'd person was Known to have Contracted Covid, thus proving the Vax ineffective.

1 in every 37,318 UK jab-recipients (all ages) experienced Cardiac Failure, Acute Mycardial infarction, Tachycardia, etc.

(For reference, this is from my notes on the Canadian Covid Doctors Alliance video 'More Harm Than Good':
"Ontario Public Health says 1 in 5,000 young men (age 18-24) have developed Myocarditis after Moderna. 1 in 28,000 after Pfizer. BUT Astra-Zeneca was HALTED due-to a 1-in-60,000 risk of blood clotting. SO, by that standard, both Moderna & Pfizer should definitely be halted. The regulators aren’t being consistent.")

1 in 29,000 experienced Blood shit, like Thrombocytopenia or Hemorrhaging.

there's a bunch more categories... such as Neurological effects, Strokes, ...7 cases of DEATH by Medical Error (yikes) due-to the jab...

but... you get the point.

[Brive1987]

Looks like the IWS is getting more positive about Ukrainian resistance. Or rather, more negative about Russian command and control.

https://www.understandingwar.org/

[Steersman]

Aye yai yai Steers. I am tempted to ignore you... but I will write a bit here. This post will clarify my thinking to you... and to others here.

Note - you are chronically straw manning me.

How so? Where? Be specific, show your work - "then a miracle happens" really doesn't cut it.

But I notice that you didn't actually respond to my comment of your posting of Campbell's video and how he supposedly "nailed it":

http://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php ... 07#p509265

Bit surprising that you apparently think there's some valid criticisms of Pfizer's action in that video of Campbell's yet you "got the jab ... three times", and think there is a lower "risk of side effects" than of "significant illness". Kinda looks like you're talking out of both sides of your mouth or that you're reluctant, unable, or unwilling to read and think about what's on the table, much of which I've put there.

It is boring and I am temped to just skip this post.... but... for the sake of others I will clarify.

1) It is wrong... indeed evil for a drug company to hold back data on their drugs. You seem to think this is just a trivial thing. I disagree with you.

All I said subsequently was, more or less, that they had been dragging their heels, but that what they finally released was anticlimatic - no smoking gun that I could see, none that either you or Service Dog were willing or able to put on the table.

Bit unfathomable how you can argue that that is evidence that I think that that dragging of their heels was a "trivial thing".

2) Many millions of people made the right choice and got the jab. I got the jab... three time. This was the right choice for me because of my age and my wife's medical issues. The risk of side effects is lower than the risk of significant illness from the Coof... for me.

Good for you.

3) The jab has significant side effects. This means that young healthy people, and people that have survived the Coof should not get the jab.

Think you need to take a close look at that document that Pfizer released; most of the side effects are rather minor indeed, and those that are serious seem rather rare:

https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/20 ... rience.pdf

And see Wikipedia:

During clinical trials, the common side effects affecting more than 1 in 10 people are (in order of frequency): pain and swelling at the injection site, tiredness, headache, muscle aches, chills, joint pain, and fever. Fever is more common after the second dose. ....

Rare side effects (that may affect up to 1 in 1,000 people) include temporary one sided facial drooping and allergic reactions such as hives or swelling of the face.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer%E2 ... se_effects

And the CDC has similar information on all of the covid vaccines, the greatest number of serious side effects apparently being with the Johnson & Johnson version:

CDC is providing timely updates on the following serious adverse events of interest:

• Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 5 people per one million vaccinated in the United States. Anaphylaxis, a severe type of allergic reaction, can occur after any kind of vaccination. If it happens, healthcare providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction.
• Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) in people who have received the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine is rare. GBS is a rare disorder where the body’s immune system damages nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis. Most people fully recover from GBS, but some have permanent nerve damage. After more than 18.4 million J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine doses administered, there have been around 303 preliminary reports of GBS identified in VAERS as of February 24, 2022.

303 cases out 18 million for the J&J vaccine. Doesn't seem all that serious or major, though of course it would suck to be one of those 303. Likewise with the 5 people per one million on the anaphylaxis.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... vents.html

Kinda think that the "relative risk" of those is substantially lower than dying from Covid - some 1 million dead out of 330 million in the US so far; your mileage may vary:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... =url-share

But other serious side effects on about the same frequency.

In any case, while, as you suggest, it might be justified to argue that "those who've survived the Coof should not get the jab", I don't think that's very practical. How would you know that they contracted Covid? All of the testing would be an expense and a hassle; be easier and less expensive to just get vaccinated.

However, the bigger problem is with your argument that "young healthy people ... should not get the jab". That they're healthy doesn't mean they wouldn't get Covid and then subsequently pass it along to many others who might be more likely to have serious complications or die. "herd immunity" and all that.

4) I call it "the jab" for several reasons. Jab is a short word that is easy to say and easy to write. It also has a bit of a comic sound to it. The jab is not a vaccine... at best it should be called an inoculation. But who uses the word inoculation? A vaccine is a shot with some de-activate virus in it to build immunity. The jab in an mRNA injection. It is wrong to call it a vaccine. Health officials call it a vaccine because they are trying to make the jab less concerning to the public... but they are lying and changing the definition.

You can say Pfizer's & Moderna's drugs aren't vaccines - you and Service Dog and the cretinous individuals that Reuters described. But Reuters clearly indicated that Pfizer, Moderna, and the CDC call them vaccines. As I've indicated, so does the OED and Wikipedia.

A vaccine is defined by Wikipedia as a drug that:

... is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.[1] A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine

Note the "surface proteins". And their drugs clearly produce various immune responses - apparently the defining feature of vaccines: if they produce such responses then, ipso facto, they're vaccines.

You and Service Dog - and many others, and on many issues - don't seem to get that you can't make up your own definitions; they're kinda like the rules of the road - y'all don't get to drive on any side you want whenever you want.

You're not really doing yourself any favours by peddling the same schlock that far too many anti-vaxxers are doing.

@Steers - This is your chance to be an honest person. This is your chance to comment on my position with some generosity in interpreting my intent. Will you rise to this challenge? Can you engage without straw manning me?

You might try putting your money where your mouth is and do the same thing. Been rather infrequent that you've actually addressed any of my arguments in any detail, either on covid or on the statistics of normal distributions, particularly related to various psychological traits.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Looks like the IWS is getting more positive about Ukrainian resistance. Or rather, more negative about Russian command and control.

https://www.understandingwar.org/

What if Putin wants a war with NATO? Cuz, either the Russian military is utter shit across the board, or they're committing the dregs to Ukraine -- and intentionally making the war as messy for civilians as possible -- while holding back the crack elements.

[Steersman]

<snip>
Nonetheless,

these are the EU numbers as-of February 28, 2021, according to the link:

Total Doses Administered/ ALL VAX types: 34,733,441
Percentage of the population receiving at-least ONE dose: 7.77%
Approx 16.7 Million of those doses were administered within 21 days of Feb 28... and so they COULD NOT BE 2nd doses of the Pfizer Jab.

-------

Therefore... the DENOMINATOR of Adverse-Events per JAB is some-fraction of 34.7 Million jabs.

Same denominator-- for the number of DEATHS per jab.


Steersman's most-conservative "assume" was an order of magnitude too high.

How do you figure that?

You said 43 million Americans got the jab vaccination with some 13,749 cases. And 10 to 34 million Britons got vaccinated for some 13,404 cases. Leaving some unknown number of people in France, Germany, Spain, Italy along with some 56 other countries creating the balance of the 42,000 cases, about 16,000 cases which might mean 20 to 50 million people.

So the "ballpark" might be something like 70 to 100 million for that "denominator". Hardly "an order of magnitude too high".

[Steersman]

Where's your evidence - apart from what you pull out of your arse - that that "business partners" means that their refutation is null and void?

The fact-checkers' failure to disclose their financial conflict of interest violates Their Own standards... which they apply to others.

What unmitigated horse crap; you're grabbing at straws; pulling crap out of your nether regions, throwing it at wall to see what might stick.

Reuters was referring to people claiming that Pfizer's and Moderna's drugs weren't vaccines. Which is exactly what you've said.

FALSE. Reuters fact-checkers INSISTED on refuting ONLY a specific, narrow claim... that the pharma companies Do Not Use the term vaccine.

So fucking what? Some of those that Reuters was referring to clearly reject the government's view that those drugs are vaccines:

Only Governments are calling it a vaccine. They think if they call it a vaccine long enough, people will think it is.

And then they create rumours and fake "news" that the drug companies don't follow suit as justification for their "people will think it is".

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN2AA2CB

But you - and John D - still deny the claims of the CDC and the drug companies. Not to mention standard definitions that have been around for 10 years or more - note the revision date:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =468244661

AS IF refuting that STRAWMAN... is a sufficient substitute for the actual claims MADE HERE AT THE 'PYT... that the mRNA vaccines Do Not Meet the LONGSTANDING definition of a vaccine, before the Covid Era of Orwellian Revisionism.

Anti-scientific claptrap. What an ignorant dickhead.

I've already been thru this EXACT dispute with Robokitty. You stooges for The Regime are just talking in circles.

"stooges for The Regime" :roll: "running dogs of capitalism" ... :roll:

And I've been thru a substantially-similar dispute with Steersman... in-which Steersman abjectly refused to Detect the Logical Fallacy perpetrated against his mind-- by the AP's fact-checkers.

More unmitigated horse shit. You SAID:

AP relies on the similarity of the acronym to "AIDS"-- to insist that VAIDS must be some form of AIDS.

https://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 37#p507737

Which they most certainly did not so insist. What a fraud. Or confabulist. The jury is still out.

[John D]

On the topic of the definition of "vaccine" here is an article describing this issue.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... 11268.html

The topic of the definition of vaccine is really not that important to me. I do think that health officials played down the fact that the mRNA injection is a very new thing. I suspect most health officials had a positive motivation to explain their behavior but lying does tend to undercut integrity. There is a reason for why Americans have a very low trust in "experts" right now. You can only lie a few times before people call you a liar!

This debate reminds me a bit about the definition of poison versus venom. Technically, my understanding is that a poison is something that injures you when it is ingested. A poison is something you eat. Venom... on the other hand... is something injected into your blood. So... a rattlesnake is not poisonous (you can eat them), but they are venomous. But, most people say a rattlesnake is poisonous. It really doesn't matter all that much. For a while I tried to correct everyone who said snakes where poisonous... but it quickly became boring and pointless.

[Service Dog]

Steersman's most-conservative "assume" was an order of magnitude too high.

How do you figure that?
....
So the "ballpark" might be something like 70 to 100 million for that "denominator". Hardly "an order of magnitude too high".

Your initial guess was that One Billion {10⁹} people had been injected with Pfizer in the first 9 to 12 weeks of the vax rollout.

Then you adjusted that down, with your most-conservative number in the Low Hundred Millions. {10⁸}

Official stats showed the actual number to be an order-of-magnitude lower than that: in the low 10's of millions. {10⁷}

And now... you ask 'how do you figure that'... while ONLY NOW adjusting your lowest estimate to the high 10's of millions.

Congratulations: your current lowest estimate is merely DOUBLE the actual number.




If you were actually devoted to scientific rigor/ upon being shown that your assumptions were off by 2 decimal places/

you would admit that Adverse Effects and Deaths being a hundredfold higher than you expected... is significant.

2 days ago, at "one billion"...

Steersman wrote: "Doesn't seem terribly outside of what is typical for vaccines in general."

today, at 30-some million...

Steersman wrote: "anticlimatic - no smoking gun that I could see" & "Doesn't seem all that serious or major"

Your memory is weak, and so the masters steer you with ease.

If I've told you that once... I've told you a hundred times.:rimshot: (Because you disregard the extra zeros. Get it?! :lol: )

another
fine
example

Is you citing "surface proteins" as part-of the definition of vaccine.

As long as that's what it says in Today's Edit of wikipedia[¹⁹⁸⁴]... that's good-enough for you, eh?

Doesn't it seem a little too convenient... that "surface proteins" would just-happen to be mentioned in the definition? ...since the Pfizer & Moderna mRNA jabs synthesize surface "spike" proteins? Be honest with yourself. Answer the question "yes" or "no"... before you peek at the spoiler.

► Show Spoiler

You should pay more attention to Dr. John Campbell. In one of his videos-- reviewing the literature on Natural Immunity-- he read an excerpt from a paper about the immune system response to surface Spike Proteins... vs. the the immune system response to the proteins from Within The 'ball' of the Coronavirus. The paper found that exposure to ball-proteins... elicited a stronger immune response to All Variants/ than exposure to surface Spike Proteins... which only train the body to fight those-specific spikes. This is one reason 'natural' immunity is stronger than Pfizer or Moderna immunity.
Dr. Campbell then mused that a jab based-on ball-proteins might-be a more effective product than Pfizer or Moderna. And, indeed, that's exactly-what's under consideration for next-generation products. Wonderful. But... see how the 'surface proteins' definition of 'vaccine' is too concerned with justifying the status quo products, rather than providing a generalized definition?

► Show Spoiler

spoiler within the spoiler: it's not just next-gen vax that's based on the ball-protein. Some existing coronavaxes... deployed overseas... already use ball-proteins/ not spike. But your wikipedia hacks left that out of their definition/ because they were myopically focussed on their political ass-covering. Fuck them & fuck you.

[Lsuoma]

Smollett is off to jail.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60695975

Probably Club Fed, though, not Riker's.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Smollett is off to jail.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60695975

Probably Club Fed, though, not Riker's.

Amnesty International has already lodged a complaint over how Jussie will be forced to share his cell with his own attacker.

[Service Dog]

Smollett is off to jail.

The judge listed all the possible punishments.
One range was "up to 180 days" ... in Cook County Jail.
Another range was "1 to 3 years" in Prison.
(other options: fines, $ restitution, public service hours, sentence-served-at-home)

I suspect the 150-days-in-jail was partially due-to the prior (fishy) plea-deal Smollett received.

If Smollett went to actual prison for 3 years... then it's 'worth' appealing the case on double-jeopardy grounds.

But... 150 days in jail might be Over before the Appellate court even-heard the appeal.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

A progressive friend posted on how it's worth paying a little extra for gas to support Ukraine (complete with photo of refugees), and suggested we all just walk, ride bikes or take public transit. I told her none of those are options for me, that it cost $85 to fill my truck 3/4 full, and that I don't have 'a little extra' to spare.

She deleted my comment.

Of course, she was just regurgitating the elitist Left's latest talking points.

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I've got an idea on how I can save on gas -- you can pull my sulky, you horse-faced bitch.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN2AA2CB

Your 'fact check' only refutes a claim which NO ONE HERE MADE. It's a non-sequitur. Is that an error, or by-design?

After, all... your source is REUTERS... business-partners with Blackrock... the owners of Pfizer.

your fact-check DOES NOT DISCLOSE THAT FINANCIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. We should not trust their motives or verdict.

https://fintel.io/so/us/pfe/blackrock
https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en/press ... -fund.html

Noticed that with the Lauren Southern bashing. Lauren Southern has never indulged in anti-"coal burner" BS but the dear fellow still chortled gleefully about Southern getting attacked for her mixed-race relationship as if she was being rumbled as a big hypocrite or was personally responsible for all the factions that followed her..

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Looks like the IWS is getting more positive about Ukrainian resistance. Or rather, more negative about Russian command and control.

https://www.understandingwar.org/

What if Putin wants a war with NATO? Cuz, either the Russian military is utter shit across the board, or they're committing the dregs to Ukraine -- and intentionally making the war as messy for civilians as possible -- while holding back the crack elements.

That is extremely unlikely because it would run counter to the Putin doctrine of keeping the public sufficiently confused as to what is actually going on to be able to declare victory in an "operation" whatever happens. The extended period of combat and persistence of internet connectivity is inconsistent with that. This is exactly the kind of ultimately undeniable morass that he would have wanted to avoid like the plague. He may still fool a lot of Russians but it will undoudbtedly be making him and the regime very jumpy.

If he wanted a war with NATO he wouldn't have denuded parts of Russia of troops before starting one. If things don't start turning my guess is he'll keep raising the stakes hoping that somebody leans on Zelenskyy to make big concessions.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Looks like the IWS is getting more positive about Ukrainian resistance. Or rather, more negative about Russian command and control.

https://www.understandingwar.org/

What if Putin wants a war with NATO? Cuz, either the Russian military is utter shit across the board, or they're committing the dregs to Ukraine -- and intentionally making the war as messy for civilians as possible -- while holding back the crack elements.

That is extremely unlikely because it would run counter to the Putin doctrine of keeping the public sufficiently confused as to what is actually going on to be able to declare victory in an "operation" whatever happens. The extended period of combat and persistence of internet connectivity is inconsistent with that. This is exactly the kind of ultimately undeniable morass that he would have wanted to avoid like the plague. He may still fool a lot of Russians but it will undoudbtedly be making him and the regime very jumpy.

If he wanted a war with NATO he wouldn't have denuded parts of Russia of troops before starting one.

All the analysts describe Russia's conduct of the war so far "inexplicable." I'm just playing out one possible explanation. Turning Putin into a mad, evil caricature -- as the neolibs and neocons are now doing -- stops any rationale exploration of his motives and thought process.

The MSM is pounding the story of Ukrainian civilians' plight which, as with my afore-mentioned prog friend, is working to elicit an emo response and call for further involvement by the US. Dickweeds like Adam Kinztinger are calling for a no-fly zone, which constitutes an act of war and would result in Russia and NATO shooting down each other's planes in about 7 minutes.

If Russia has better ground and air resources in reserve, then they could be wading in the Baltic in a day or two. Then what?

And has Putin correctly assessed that the West believes he's crazy enough to use nukes, but knows the West is too chickenshit to respond in kind? I mean, from Day One the West has telegraphed their punches -- or, rather, unwillingness to throw punches.

If things don't start turning my guess is he'll keep raising the stakes hoping that somebody leans on Zelenskyy to make big concessions.

Latest demands from Russia are:
1) Ukraine rewrite its constitution to bar membership in any military alliance (i.e., NATO);
2) Recognize Russian ownership of Crimea;
3) Recognize independence of the breakaway provinces.

Last two are faits accompli, so grant them. First is out of the question, but if assurances that Ukraine would not join NATO can stop this war, those assurances could have prevented this war. When Putin saw how weak the West was responding to war threats (and, imo, how the Biden admin actually wanted a war), he decided what the hell, go for it. Cuz at worst, out of a war he gets his initial bargaining stance, but also with the chance of achieving even more.

[zou3gou3]

Donkey Buggerer wrote:

it cost $85 to fill my truck 3/4 full

My heart fucking bleeds. You're paying peanuts for your diesel and still you whinge.

[Service Dog]

Lauren Southern bashing

I looked that up, to see what you were talking about.

ftp:
"Notice no picture of the baby. Could it be that her new crotch fruit isn't white?"

Then, when informed that the baby's feet were visible in one of the photos, did ftp concede his "no pictures of the baby" thesis was incorrect? Of course not:

ftp:
"I have to confess I missed that, still it was probably a photoshop. Are you sure that was Lauren's baby and not just a prop?"

Which puts-into-perspective free_thoughtpolice's "fact checking" posts & "conspiracy theory" finger-pointing.


---
Now is a good time to mention-- that I do find myself wondering--

how-much of the absurd opposition I encounter here--

is due-to the other party being... UnCool. ?

Like-- it's not Cognitive Dissonance or some formal fallacy with the word 'Bias' in the name...

It's just cringe-y failed attempts to sound witty/ followed-by a cringe-y inability to extract themselves gracefully/ when their words fall flat.

And I wonder if I over-emphasize being 'cool'. Like-- the shame seeing someone fail at-it... causes me to react with more venom.

[Steersman]

Smollett is off to jail.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60695975

Probably Club Fed, though, not Riker's.

Amnesty International has already lodged a complaint over how Jussie will be forced to share his cell with his own attacker.

:-) Rather akin to the guy convicted of murdering his parents and then throwing himself "on the mercy of the courts" because he was an orphan.

Not a lot of sympathy for Smollett - seem to recollect seeing that the Judge excoriated him for the lying that was the subject of the trial as well as for that during it.

[Steersman]

Donkey Buggerer wrote:

it cost $85 to fill my truck 3/4 full

My heart fucking bleeds. You're paying peanuts for your diesel and still you whinge.

:-) Seem to recollect Matt saying that he'd bought a new truck with cash so he can't be hurting all that bad ...

But I see that US prices for gas - not diesel - is about $4.32 a gallon. Which works out to about $1.10 a litre - we're paying $2.00 a litre here in Canada.

[Service Dog]

.

further down the page-- (the page with Lauren Southern's baby's feet, back in February of 2020)...

was a post from Brive.

Brive checked-in on Ol' PZ's blog... and then quickly backed-out/ having seen the levels of crazy there.

In particular: Brive was reacting to the following image (and the baboons' howls of Trump Derangement)

I laugh as I repost this image in 2022...

and revisit PZ asking his commenters-- How Far Along Are We, Now?

[Brive1987]

Looks like the IWS is getting more positive about Ukrainian resistance. Or rather, more negative about Russian command and control.

https://www.understandingwar.org/

What if Putin wants a war with NATO? Cuz, either the Russian military is utter shit across the board, or they're committing the dregs to Ukraine -- and intentionally making the war as messy for civilians as possible -- while holding back the crack elements.

If he had wanted that he could of developed a rush on Latvia. Right now a NATO war would probably be fought by western AirPower far from traditional western countries on alien battlefields in Poland and Hungary. Against a Russian military with significant assets already poorly configured and bogged down in outer Ukraine. Shit 4D chess. I prefer to believe we are watching the elite and this is their top game.

[Brive1987]

Lauren

The difference between hating a race and the individuals of that race and … not wanting cultural terraforming via mass migration … has always been poorly understood by libs.

Lauren made a video about her part Asian Aussie husband. Forrest and trees.

[Steersman]

Steersman's most-conservative "assume" was an order of magnitude too high.

How do you figure that?
....
So the "ballpark" might be something like 70 to 100 million for that "denominator". Hardly "an order of magnitude too high".

Your initial guess was that One Billion {10⁹} people had been injected with Pfizer in the first 9 to 12 weeks of the vax rollout.

:roll:
And I subsequently more or less conceded that in accepting your 43 million number for the "denominator" for the 13,000-odd US cases. Out of 42,000 - which more or less justified a new ballpark figure of 120 million. Which I further reduced to 50 to 70 million on the basis of your own estimates of 10 million for the denominator for the 13,000-odd UK cases.

You going to repudiate your own estimates now? :roll:

You don't seem to quite get the idea of ratios, how one can extrapolate, for example, from the number of cases and "denominator" in the US to the denominator for the rest of the world based on the total number of cases.

<bullshit snipped>

another
fine
example

Is you citing "surface proteins" as part-of the definition of vaccine.

As long as that's what it says in Today's Edit of wikipedia[¹⁹⁸⁴]... that's good-enough for you, eh?

You're a fucking idiot mate. Or a fraud and an intellectually dishonest confabulist. Any plans afoot to admit that you were blowing smoke out of your arse about AP's fact checks? :roll:

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You might consider that as part of the reason for the "supposed" "absurd opposition you encounter here" ... :roll:

But you might try reading up on some of the principles behind definitions:

They're hardly cast in concrete, they weren't chiseled into 26 tablets that Moses brought down from Mt. Sinai. There's some rhyme and reason to the process, but they also change to reflect various scientific discoveries and theories:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition

Doesn't it seem a little too convenient... that "surface proteins" would just-happen to be mentioned in the definition? ...since the Pfizer & Moderna mRNA jabs synthesize surface "spike" proteins? Be honest with yourself. Answer the question "yes" or "no"... before you peek at the spoiler.

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You should pay more attention to Dr. John Campbell. In one of his videos-- reviewing the literature on Natural Immunity-- he read an excerpt from a paper about the immune system response to surface Spike Proteins... vs. the the immune system response to the proteins from Within The 'ball' of the Coronavirus. The paper found that exposure to ball-proteins... elicited a stronger immune response to All Variants/ than exposure to surface Spike Proteins... which only train the body to fight those-specific spikes. This is one reason 'natural' immunity is stronger than Pfizer or Moderna immunity.
Dr. Campbell then mused that a jab based-on ball-proteins might-be a more effective product than Pfizer or Moderna. And, indeed, that's exactly-what's under consideration for next-generation products. Wonderful. But... see how the 'surface proteins' definition of 'vaccine' is too concerned with justifying the status quo products, rather than providing a generalized definition?

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spoiler within the spoiler: it's not just next-gen vax that's based on the ball-protein. Some existing coronavaxes... deployed overseas... already use ball-proteins/ not spike. But your wikipedia hacks left that out of their definition/ because they were myopically focussed on their political ass-covering. Fuck them & fuck you.

Chuck you too Farley.

For one thing that Wikipedia article was timestamped as being from 2011 - long before Covid and the vaccines for it.

As for Campbell, bully for him; stopped clocks and all that. Though I wonder where's your link to that video of his and to that spoiler text.

But the Wikipedia article on the Covid vaccine also talks about "future generations" targeting the nucleocapsids, presumably the "ball-protein"; something they didn't "leave out", at least out of that article:

However, other coronavirus proteins are also being investigated for vaccine development, like the nucleocapsid, because they also induce a robust T-cell response and their genes are more conserved and recombine less frequently (compared to Spike). Future generations of COVID-19 vaccines that may target more and conserved genomic regions will also act as an insurance against the manifestation of catastrophic scenarios concerning the future evolutionary path of SARS-CoV-2, or any similar Coronavirus epidemic/pandemic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_ ... cine_types

They even link to a June 2020 article that discusses the concept in some detail so it's hardly the case that Campbell has said anything other than old news:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7307180/

However, I don't see anything there about "existing coronovaxes ... [that] already use ball-proteins". You have a link or is that something else you've pulled out of your arse? Since you're supposedly a Wikipedia editor, I'm sure they'd appreciate it if you were to add it to the vaccine article ... :roll:

[Service Dog]

Steersman is begging for my ball proteins.

[Service Dog]

I don't see anything there about "existing coronovaxes ... [that] already use ball-proteins". You have a link or is that something else you've pulled out of your arse?

I don't know which Campbell video it came-from. I think he was summarizing a study-- which examined immunity obtained via exposure to actual-corona. The researchers had exposed subjects (animals? people? I don't know) to spikes shorn from coronaballs... and studied the subsequent degree-of immunity. And they also exposed subjects to genetic material from 'inside the ball' of the corona... and their results showed that-stuff generated a more-robust immune response than the spikes-did. He then wrapped-up the point by noting that new vaccines currently being developed/seeking future approval... were of the traditional type (created from the genetic-stuff of actual-corona itself... rather than being mRNA sythesizers per Pfizer & Moderna.)

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Donkey Buggerer wrote:

it cost $85 to fill my truck 3/4 full

My heart fucking bleeds. You're paying peanuts for your diesel and still you whinge.

How much per bale are you paying for hay?

You non-productive elitist sacks of shit are so blinded by your arrogance, you don't realize it's 1788.